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2012-07-06 11:11:09 PM
One reason that I may have turned away from King's fiction is that the genres (horror and fantasy) he worked in didn't appeal to me.

Let me guess, this blogger doesn't own a TV either.

/probably insists everyone should call it a television
 
2012-07-07 12:17:17 AM
I hate that kind of attitude towards writers. Not everyone is a farking literary marvel. Some are just masterful storytellers. King has had moments of the former and a whole farking buttload of the latter, which is more than the pompous dickhole reviewer will ever accomplish.
 
2012-07-07 12:19:57 AM
Don't like it? Don't read it, then shut the fark up.
 
2012-07-07 12:23:45 AM
I like and admire Thomas Pynchon but I enjoy Stephen King more.
 
2012-07-07 12:27:03 AM
Anyone who states they don't like Stephen King, I say Hey! That's cool. Tastes differ. But you want to get your socks scared off, read Night Shift's first story - Jerusalem's Lot.


Scariest shiat I ever read.
 
2012-07-07 12:27:33 AM
Yea but did he write those 4500 words before lunch? Stee! Van! King! Stee! Van! King!
 
2012-07-07 12:37:58 AM
*shrug* literary criticism is a sport.

I doubt that mr. king cares what this guy has to say.
 
2012-07-07 12:40:05 AM
Why does it take 4,500 words to say, "He sucks at writing the end to a story."
 
2012-07-07 12:43:02 AM
WTF is this guy's problem?
images.wikia.com
/rita?
 
2012-07-07 01:02:34 AM
Dean Koontz has a new book out?
 
2012-07-07 01:12:56 AM
To make me care about "what happens next," you first have to get me to care about what is happening now, on the page I'm reading.

Oddly enough, this is where I stopped reading.
 
2012-07-07 01:13:39 AM
Pretty sure that article was intended as humor. Everything he accuses King of doing he did exactly in the article itself.

Otherwise, he's just a not very smart snob.
 
2012-07-07 01:13:54 AM

gopher321: Anyone who states they don't like Stephen King, I say Hey! That's cool. Tastes differ. But you want to get your socks scared off, read Night Shift's first story - Jerusalem's Lot.


Scariest shiat I ever read.


Seconded.

/ King is a better writer of short stories than of novels, IMHO.
// With the exception of "The Stand", of course...
 
2012-07-07 01:16:12 AM

red5ish: To make me care about "what happens next," you first have to get me to care about what is happening now, on the page I'm reading.

Oddly enough, this is where I stopped reading.


Exactly. My guess is this is not as much a critic as an aspiring writer who never had his novel hit it very big, and thus wishes the world were as enlightened as he is. But, perhaps he said something clever somewhere about halfway through, and I just _didn't read it._

My experience, somewhat ironically, is that the dumbest people and smartest people I know tend to love Stephen King. The people who tend to spout tripe like this tend to fall in the worse range -- the mediocre.
 
2012-07-07 01:17:28 AM
I tried to read this article.

Quick tip: whenever the article has more "me" references than that famous author you're complaining about, it's you. Douche.
 
2012-07-07 01:19:46 AM
I'd rather read Stephen King than a 4,500 word navel-gazing session any day of the week.
 
2012-07-07 01:22:49 AM
Some other Salon writer had already written a rebuttal

And people say we waste time on Fark.
 
2012-07-07 01:22:51 AM
Funny. He worked on it all winter and all it says is:

all work and no play makes jack a dull boy.


/x450
 
2012-07-07 01:27:05 AM
Stephen King haters should read his book "On Writing".

King lovers should read it too, if they haven't already.
 
2012-07-07 01:32:57 AM
literature, which, at its best, is, sentence by sentence, a revelation about life

Pompous bullcrap, what literature teachers tell their classes to justify their profession. You want to learn about human nature? Play in a pick-up group on WoW. You'll learn more about what people are really like in an hour than in a week reading Tolstoy.
 
2012-07-07 01:34:57 AM
sure, maybe he's not the genius that gave us The Hardy Boys or Nancy Drew Mysteries, but King is still pretty good.
 
2012-07-07 01:36:19 AM
I can do it in five words: Patrick Danville and his eraser.
 
2012-07-07 01:37:56 AM
No reason for any of you to bother with TFA. All you need to know is in one of the 100+ comments:

"This is the most rambling, dull, unfocused and self-absorbed piece I've ever read in Salon, and there have been many over the years. The parenthetical asides occupy almost as much column space as the narrative itself, a sure sign of a sloppy and undisciplined mind. A snob? No, sorry. A lousy writer."
 
2012-07-07 01:39:22 AM
This muddled intellectual should have read The Stand.

Or at least the graphic novels, the pictures would have helped him.
 
2012-07-07 01:42:19 AM
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2012-07-07 01:42:31 AM

Sgygus: literature, which, at its best, is, sentence by sentence, a revelation about life

Pompous bullcrap, what literature teachers tell their classes to justify their profession. You want to learn about human nature? Play in a pick-up group on WoW. You'll learn more about what people are really like in an hour than in a week reading Tolstoy.


Before one can learn about human nature from a novel, he must first be entertained. All literary snobs forget about this entertainment requirement.

/King is a great entertainer
//WoW might be too, if you're into that type of game
 
2012-07-07 01:43:20 AM
My problem with King has always been that he's long-winded and in need of a more aggressive editor. Sounds like this blowhard has the exact same problem.
 
2012-07-07 01:49:13 AM
I'm currently reading Wind Through The Keyhole and after I plan to re-read the entire gunslinger cycle again for the third time. When I read articles like this I like to reflect on how I hate things people like and how it annoys me. 19's to you sir!
 
2012-07-07 01:49:34 AM
Oh looky, some hack is peeing all over my all time fave hack writer.

Double Dumbass Snot-green Crotch Rockets on you, jealous Salon hack.
 
2012-07-07 01:50:29 AM

Third_Uncle_Eno: Stephen King haters should read his book "On Writing".

King lovers should read it too, if they haven't already.


King has been phoning it in for years.
 
2012-07-07 01:52:10 AM
My problem with Stephen King is that he shot John Lennon. The truth will set you free. http://www.lennonmurdertruth.com/index.asp
 
2012-07-07 01:52:40 AM

gopher321: Anyone who states they don't like Stephen King, I say Hey! That's cool. Tastes differ. But you want to get your socks scared off, read Night Shift's first story - Jerusalem's Lot.

Scariest shiat I ever read.


Desperation (under his Bachman handle) was the scariest book I've ever read of his. The violence and terror that the characters feel is very much transferred over to the reader. Have only read it once, one of the few I won't read again.

The best books of his imho are Under the Dome, and The Stand. Under the Dome blew my socks off the first time I read it. I read it in 2 sittings of about 8 hours each, the way the whole story unravels is truly amazing.

The author of this article is a poncy douche.
 
2012-07-07 01:52:50 AM
The first time I see the words "Castle Rock", "Maine", "Franny" or "Hap", I close the damn book.

/Haven't been able to complete a King book in 25 years.
 
2012-07-07 01:53:07 AM
Reminds me of:

http://redlettermedia.com/

/not crafty enough to embed
 
2012-07-07 01:54:36 AM

red5ish: Third_Uncle_Eno: Stephen King haters should read his book "On Writing".

King lovers should read it too, if they haven't already.

King has been phoning it in for years.


I disagree. His last few books have been a lot of fun. Wind Through the Keyhole is at least the third best Dark Tower novel(las) in my opinion. A lot of people have been regurgitating your line since about 2002, though, when you stopped reading him.
 
2012-07-07 01:57:25 AM
After you've read Roberto Bolaño and Denis Johnson and David Foster Wallace and Thomas Pynchon, as my son has, why would you return to Stephen King?

He's right.
 
2012-07-07 02:00:07 AM
After you've read Roberto Bolaño and Denis Johnson and David Foster Wallace and Thomas Pynchon, as my son has, why would you return to Stephen King?

Cause he writes some good entertaining stuff.
 
2012-07-07 02:00:33 AM

red5ish: Third_Uncle_Eno: Stephen King haters should read his book "On Writing".

King lovers should read it too, if they haven't already.

King has been phoning it in for years.


I would say that he had a particular low point on quality of writing just after his accident. I know many people liked it but Heart of Atlantis to me was just horrible, horrible writing. Essentially 3 separate stories that should link together but don't and has the worst ending ever. But in the last 5 years or so he'shiat some monster homeruns.
 
2012-07-07 02:01:05 AM

kliq: After you've read Roberto Bolaño and Denis Johnson and David Foster Wallace and Thomas Pynchon, as my son has, why would you return to Stephen King?

He's right.


No he's not. I've read all of Pynchon's books, and like them a lot, but that in no way impacts my pleasure of reading a Stephen King story. I can't imagine a sorry world where it would.
 
2012-07-07 02:02:32 AM

phimuskapsi: Desperation (under his Bachman handle) was the scariest book I've ever read of his.

Desperation

was King; The Regulators was Bachman.
 
2012-07-07 02:03:24 AM
His main complaint for the first third of this thing seemed to be "I don't like genre fiction." If a person is so aggressively ignorant that they can only understand insights about humanity if they are packaged into the narrow box of "literature," then they know nothing about stories, and even less about human nature.

Seriously, I am a ravenous reader of both novels and critical essays. This dipshiat represents everything that was wrong with the community about ten years ago. Luckily, he is now firmly in the minority.
 
2012-07-07 02:06:08 AM

BroVinny: phimuskapsi: Desperation (under his Bachman handle) was the scariest book I've ever read of his.

Desperation was King; The Regulators was Bachman.


You are totally right. I always do that. Either way, still scary shiat.
 
2012-07-07 02:17:04 AM
Can you believe this happy crappy?
 
2012-07-07 02:19:10 AM
I think one MAJOR factor that this guy didn't even acknowledge is that a ton of his movies have been adapted into movies, and two of them -- "Shawshank" and "The Shining," obviously -- are hailed as two of the greatest films ever made. Personally, I'm not a fan of King; I read him a bunch when I was a teen, but I'm pretty indifferent to the idea of reading any further. But I can understand giving him arguably undeserved credit now on the basis of what he's already done for those two stories alone.
 
2012-07-07 02:22:21 AM

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2012-07-07 02:27:51 AM
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2012-07-07 02:40:12 AM

Confabulat: kliq: After you've read Roberto Bolaño and Denis Johnson and David Foster Wallace and Thomas Pynchon, as my son has, why would you return to Stephen King?

He's right.

No he's not. I've read all of Pynchon's books, and like them a lot, but that in no way impacts my pleasure of reading a Stephen King story. I can't imagine a sorry world where it would.


I'm a big fan of Clark Ashton Smith's prose poems/short stories, but I only like to break them out on rainy days when I want a simple adventure. As enjoyable as they are, there's nothing going on beneath the surface that sticks with me after I'm done reading.
 
2012-07-07 02:52:48 AM

gopher321: Anyone who states they don't like Stephen King, I say Hey! That's cool. Tastes differ. But you want to get your socks scared off, read Night Shift's first story - Jerusalem's Lot.

Scariest shiat I ever read.


I'd love to see a good director get ahold of Jerusalem's Lot. Guillermo del Toro or Ridley Scott. I think it's the only story left in the book that hasn't been made into a feature film yet.
 
2012-07-07 03:10:23 AM

Sgygus: literature, which, at its best, is, sentence by sentence, a revelation about life

Pompous bullcrap, what literature teachers tell their classes to justify their profession. You want to learn about human nature? Play in a pick-up group on WoW. You'll learn more about what a very limited subset of people behind a layer of anonymity are really like in an hour than in a week reading Tolstoy.


FTFY. A Pick-up group in WoW has as much to do with humanity as a whole as a butterfly has to do with the animal kingdom.
 
2012-07-07 03:11:32 AM
I've never understood the idea that if you like one thing, you can't also like another. Why does liking Pynchon suddenly mean you can't like King? Because they're different styles? I like chocolate ice cream AND vanilla, I must have horrible taste compared to someone who only likes one or the other.
 
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