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2012-07-07 11:38:08 AM

coolio mack: Does anyone have any more insight into the whole Rondo/Allen beef that's supposedly out there? I read about that increasingly over the past few days during Allen's decision making process, but haven't heard anything before that.

This is gonna be a great pickup for Miami - Ray could end up shooting near 50% from three with LeBron kicking it to him. If they can pickup Camby too, that would be the rebounding presence they haven't had.


And give them 2 of the top 5 picks in the 1996 NBA Draft!

/Lakers now have 2 of the top 15 from the same draft
 
2012-07-07 11:38:58 AM
My tenth greenlight or so and my favorite headline by far. I'm just shocked I linked the ESPN article before anybody else.
 
2012-07-07 11:47:33 AM
I wish Trayvon Martin was white because then nobody would give a shiat.
 
2012-07-07 11:52:30 AM

Jamdug!: So MIA is now just a pit stop for soon-to-be retiring players who want a quick ring before they hang up their sneakers?


www.bodyandhealthimages.com

Nothing new
 
2012-07-07 12:12:01 PM

FreakinB: coolio mack: Does anyone have any more insight into the whole Rondo/Allen beef that's supposedly out there? I read about that increasingly over the past few days during Allen's decision making process, but haven't heard anything before that.

This is gonna be a great pickup for Miami - Ray could end up shooting near 50% from three with LeBron kicking it to him. If they can pickup Camby too, that would be the rebounding presence they haven't had.

And give them 2 of the top 5 picks in the 1996 NBA Draft!

/Lakers now have 2 of the top 15 from the same draft


Which would compliment the three top 5 picks from the 2003 NBA Draft. Which draft was better?

Comparison
 
2012-07-07 12:24:56 PM
From what I'm reading (yahoo sports NBA) Ray was fed up with Rondo telling him what to do. Rondo has the highest hoop IQ in the league and Ray couldn't deal with it. Thanks Ray but I'll take Rajon.

Well... Bye.jpg
 
2012-07-07 12:28:41 PM

coolio mack: FreakinB: coolio mack: Does anyone have any more insight into the whole Rondo/Allen beef that's supposedly out there? I read about that increasingly over the past few days during Allen's decision making process, but haven't heard anything before that.

This is gonna be a great pickup for Miami - Ray could end up shooting near 50% from three with LeBron kicking it to him. If they can pickup Camby too, that would be the rebounding presence they haven't had.

And give them 2 of the top 5 picks in the 1996 NBA Draft!

/Lakers now have 2 of the top 15 from the same draft

Which would compliment the three top 5 picks from the 2003 NBA Draft. Which draft was better?

Comparison


1996 wins. 2003 is better at the very top, but 1996 has 10+ guys who were at least very good. 2003 has like five.
 
2012-07-07 12:34:23 PM
Sad day. Good luck, Ray
 
2012-07-07 01:32:57 PM
Boston can replace him. The only other team member they could replace would be K.G. with Love from MN.
 
2012-07-07 01:38:21 PM

salvador.hardin: Ohhh its funny. Zimmerman shot and killed a child and this man shoots basketballs very well. Shoot and shoot. Its funny when words are the same for different contexts. Also, its edgy because Zimmerman shot and killed a child. Its edgy when you make jokes that minimize a recent tragedy that didn't affect you directly. This headline is edgy and funny because George Zimmerman shot and killed a child.


Its best not to look too deeply into basketball culture if you are easily offended by random shootings of people.
 
2012-07-07 01:44:34 PM

salvador.hardin: Ohhh its funny. Zimmerman shot and killed a child and this man shoots basketballs very well. Shoot and shoot. Its funny when words are the same for different contexts. Also, its edgy because Zimmerman shot and killed a child. Its edgy when you make jokes that minimize a recent tragedy that didn't affect you directly. This headline is edgy and funny because George Zimmerman shot and killed a child.


Are you perhaps emotionally upset, brother?
 
2012-07-07 01:49:50 PM

fatalvenom: Schroedinger's Glory Hole: First of many. Ray will be the special guest star for this season, only to have his character killed off in the next (Right in time to galvanize the team for their first threepeat). After they do a tasteful goodbye in the Dexter series finale the next superstar looking for a ring will join and the cycle repeats. I hope it's Rajon.

Seriously, fark Boston. This is what you get for letting two of those 9/11 planes out of Logan (Note: NYKnicks traded rights for revenge for another key piece to a 2005 NBA championship team)

What are you dumb micks going to do now? Shoot someone's preggo wife and blame it on the black guy...

9/10.

First you start babbling incoherently, then you bring up 9/11 & Logan, then you shoot off a Mick blast.

Well done, good troll.


Thank you, I think there is something for everyone to hate on there. Although I don't consider myself a troll per se, I am just more on LeBron's dick than anyone. It always looks like trolling when it comes down from the 9 1/2 inch catbird seat. I also farking detest Boston sports.
 
2012-07-07 01:56:28 PM

JDawgNJ: My tenth greenlight or so and my favorite headline by far. I'm just shocked I linked the ESPN article before anybody else.




When the story of your life is written, this will come in handy, but in the here and now please remember that this information is incredibly boring.
 
2012-07-07 03:04:21 PM

ColTomParker: Isn't this what the Patriots have been doing for ten years or more? Offering less money for a chance at a ring. The butt hurt in Boston pleases me greatly.


And those of us in Milwaukee are just going to cry ourselves to sleep tonight.

/because there's no ring
//or money
 
2012-07-07 03:37:42 PM
So the NBA has a structure where players can recruit other players to take less money to win a ring.

Ok, so noooooooo one in Miami watches the regular season, they buy season tickets so they can get playoff tickets. Sadly, no other team has a chance to win this year so that will decrease attendance around the rest of the league.

20 other teams will lose money because of this move and the commish is still going to allow it to happen since they are in a large market.

What difference does it make if they are in a large market? No one watches the games on TV, no one goes to the game and those tickets would have sold out anyway.

Indiana? OKC? Chicago? LA? Any one think you have a chance?

This is a stupid move for an increasingly boring league. I'd rather watch NCAA ball, 64 teams single elimination is more exciting and there's more suspense.
 
2012-07-07 03:56:03 PM

historycat: Sadly, no other team has a chance to win this year


What the fark are you talking about?
 
2012-07-07 04:07:55 PM

VRmp3: ABCs good morning America crawl.. "ray Allen leaves the Celtics to joins the Miami heat."
Editors ftw..


images.wikia.com
 
2012-07-07 04:18:11 PM

historycat: This is a stupid move for an increasingly boring league. I'd rather watch NCAA ball, 64 teams single elimination is more exciting and there's more suspense.


The boring league that just had one of the most exciting and watched Finals ever, even though one of the teams was from Oklahoma City? That league?

The NBA is actually in fantastic shape save a couple really awful franchises, but the same could be said for pretty much any professional sports league league. The only difference is that the NBA is massive overseas as well.

The NCAA tournament has 68 teams now, by the way, not 64.
 
2012-07-07 04:19:54 PM
WSVN told you first
 
2012-07-07 04:42:31 PM
College ball is pretty shiatty quality, I guess people like how white some teams are perhaps.
 
2012-07-07 04:59:12 PM

Crude: JDawgNJ: My tenth greenlight or so and my favorite headline by far. I'm just shocked I linked the ESPN article before anybody else.



When the story of your life is written, this will come in handy, but in the here and now please remember that this information is incredibly boring.


I'm going to have to ask for you to indulge me while I stand here and heap nothing but gushing generalities about myself some more. It won't kill you, ya know.
 
2012-07-07 05:18:28 PM

mitchcumstein1: The boring league that just had one of the most exciting and watched Finals ever


How many years ago was that?

Because I just watched a 5 game series.

/everything else I agree with it
 
2012-07-07 05:24:24 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: How many years ago was that?


Dallas/Miami was a classic Finals, this years sucked. Both the conference finals were awesome, however.
 
2012-07-07 05:49:19 PM

FreetardoRivera: salvador.hardin: Ohhh its funny. Zimmerman shot and killed a child and this man shoots basketballs very well. Shoot and shoot. Its funny when words are the same for different contexts. Also, its edgy because Zimmerman shot and killed a child. Its edgy when you make jokes that minimize a recent tragedy that didn't affect you directly. This headline is edgy and funny because George Zimmerman shot and killed a child.

you are just the worst sort of person


Well I haven't shot and/or killed any children so I'm, at most, the second worst sort of person.
 
2012-07-07 05:54:09 PM

salvador.hardin: FreetardoRivera: salvador.hardin: Ohhh its funny. Zimmerman shot and killed a child and this man shoots basketballs very well. Shoot and shoot. Its funny when words are the same for different contexts. Also, its edgy because Zimmerman shot and killed a child. Its edgy when you make jokes that minimize a recent tragedy that didn't affect you directly. This headline is edgy and funny because George Zimmerman shot and killed a child.

you are just the worst sort of person

Well I haven't shot and/or killed any children so I'm, at most, the second worst sort of person.


It's funny for the same reason trick or treating at the VFW as Zombie Tillman is. It pisses off old curmedgeony homos such as yourself.
 
2012-07-07 05:58:12 PM

Schroedinger's Glory Hole: salvador.hardin: FreetardoRivera: salvador.hardin: Ohhh its funny. Zimmerman shot and killed a child and this man shoots basketballs very well. Shoot and shoot. Its funny when words are the same for different contexts. Also, its edgy because Zimmerman shot and killed a child. Its edgy when you make jokes that minimize a recent tragedy that didn't affect you directly. This headline is edgy and funny because George Zimmerman shot and killed a child.

you are just the worst sort of person

Well I haven't shot and/or killed any children so I'm, at most, the second worst sort of person.

It's funny for the same reason trick or treating at the VFW as Zombie Tillman is. It pisses off old curmedgeony homos such as yourself.


Do you um... do you know what a glory hole... is?

Also, you were only like three or four words short of a coherent thought there. Keep it up big guy. You'll get there.
 
2012-07-07 06:03:28 PM

salvador.hardin: Also, you were only like three or four words short of a coherent thought there. Keep it up big guy. You'll get there.


He's kind of a troll, he just makes outlandish and weird remarks.
 
2012-07-07 06:04:02 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: mitchcumstein1: The boring league that just had one of the most exciting and watched Finals ever

How many years ago was that?

Because I just watched a 5 game series.

/everything else I agree with it


Yeah, it was a five a five game series, but every single game, except the last one, went down to the last minute or so, it was an incredibly entertaining series, and people watched the shiat out of it. Plus, OKC and Miami are both relatively young and the potential for a rivalry is there, which we really haven't had in quite a while.
 
2012-07-07 06:08:33 PM

salvador.hardin: Schroedinger's Glory Hole: salvador.hardin: FreetardoRivera: salvador.hardin: Ohhh its funny. Zimmerman shot and killed a child and this man shoots basketballs very well. Shoot and shoot. Its funny when words are the same for different contexts. Also, its edgy because Zimmerman shot and killed a child. Its edgy when you make jokes that minimize a recent tragedy that didn't affect you directly. This headline is edgy and funny because George Zimmerman shot and killed a child.

you are just the worst sort of person

Well I haven't shot and/or killed any children so I'm, at most, the second worst sort of person.

It's funny for the same reason trick or treating at the VFW as Zombie Tillman is. It pisses off old curmedgeony homos such as yourself.

Do you um... do you know what a glory hole... is?

Also, you were only like three or four words short of a coherent thought there. Keep it up big guy. You'll get there.


Your comment is funny because I was making fun of you for not having a sense of humor and your proceeded to admit you don't understand my user name, confirming that you don't have a sense of humor. There's nothing wrong with somebody making a joke about a tragedy, get over it. People like you just make this shiat easier.

sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net

When does a pentagon have 4 sides? When it intersects a plane.

Black people Trayvon shoot shoot Buick.

/If you think it is clever and thoughtless, outrage will just encourage more
 
2012-07-07 06:09:17 PM

TheJoe03: salvador.hardin: Also, you were only like three or four words short of a coherent thought there. Keep it up big guy. You'll get there.

He's kind of a troll, he just makes outlandish and weird remarks.


Someone's playing along here.
 
2012-07-07 06:28:55 PM

Schroedinger's Glory Hole: salvador.hardin: Schroedinger's Glory Hole: salvador.hardin: FreetardoRivera: salvador.hardin: Ohhh its funny. Zimmerman shot and killed a child and this man shoots basketballs very well. Shoot and shoot. Its funny when words are the same for different contexts. Also, its edgy because Zimmerman shot and killed a child. Its edgy when you make jokes that minimize a recent tragedy that didn't affect you directly. This headline is edgy and funny because George Zimmerman shot and killed a child.

you are just the worst sort of person

Well I haven't shot and/or killed any children so I'm, at most, the second worst sort of person.

It's funny for the same reason trick or treating at the VFW as Zombie Tillman is. It pisses off old curmedgeony homos such as yourself.

Do you um... do you know what a glory hole... is?

Also, you were only like three or four words short of a coherent thought there. Keep it up big guy. You'll get there.

Your comment is funny because I was making fun of you for not having a sense of humor and your proceeded to admit you don't understand my user name, confirming that you don't have a sense of humor. There's nothing wrong with somebody making a joke about a tragedy, get over it. People like you just make this shiat easier.

[sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net image 604x389]

When does a pentagon have 4 sides? When it intersects a plane.

Black people Trayvon shoot shoot Buick.

/If you think it is clever and thoughtless, outrage will just encourage more


Trust me, the humor of your name does not escape me. However, when I see someone who has named them self after random anonymous homo-sexual encounters accentuating their arguments with homo-phobic name calling... well I just have to question whether you understand the humor of your name.

/ its never a woman
// its always a dude
 
2012-07-07 06:40:12 PM

TheJoe03: College ball is pretty shiatty quality, I guess people like how white some teams are perhaps.




TheJoe03: He's kind of a troll, he just makes outlandish and weird remarks.

 
2012-07-07 06:45:26 PM

salvador.hardin: Schroedinger's Glory Hole: salvador.hardin: Schroedinger's Glory Hole: salvador.hardin: FreetardoRivera: salvador.hardin: Ohhh its funny. Zimmerman shot and killed a child and this man shoots basketballs very well. Shoot and shoot. Its funny when words are the same for different contexts. Also, its edgy because Zimmerman shot and killed a child. Its edgy when you make jokes that minimize a recent tragedy that didn't affect you directly. This headline is edgy and funny because George Zimmerman shot and killed a child.

you are just the worst sort of person

Well I haven't shot and/or killed any children so I'm, at most, the second worst sort of person.

It's funny for the same reason trick or treating at the VFW as Zombie Tillman is. It pisses off old curmedgeony homos such as yourself.

Do you um... do you know what a glory hole... is?

Also, you were only like three or four words short of a coherent thought there. Keep it up big guy. You'll get there.

Your comment is funny because I was making fun of you for not having a sense of humor and your proceeded to admit you don't understand my user name, confirming that you don't have a sense of humor. There's nothing wrong with somebody making a joke about a tragedy, get over it. People like you just make this shiat easier.

[sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net image 604x389]

When does a pentagon have 4 sides? When it intersects a plane.

Black people Trayvon shoot shoot Buick.

/If you think it is clever and thoughtless, outrage will just encourage more

Trust me, the humor of your name does not escape me. However, when I see someone who has named them self after random anonymous homo-sexual encounters accentuating their arguments with homo-phobic name calling... well I just have to question whether you understand the humor of your name.

/ its never a woman
// its always a dude


Schroedinger's cat is a thought experiment with a set of conditions that requires one to think of the cat as both dead and alive at the same time. Schroedinger's glory hole recognizes the ambiguity that comes with identifying gender by the somatosensory input of wet flesh on dick so the person receiving the sexual favor must be regarded as both gay and not gay at the same time. It's a social commentary on sexual orientation, science reference, and dick joke all in one. That's why I enjoy it, and I hope that at least a few other people will as well. I bet whoever submitted this headline had a similar thought pattern and your objections will do nothing but make you look like a hater ass trick.

When I called you a homo, I didn't mean "homo" in the dick sucking way. I meant it in the "That guy is a farking homo" sort of way. I am far less turned off by two dudes going at it than somebody trying to henryhiggins shame into another for trying to get a cheap laugh.
 
2012-07-07 06:46:21 PM

mikaloyd: outlandish and weird remarks.


That wasn't outlandish OR weird. Go ahead and claim college ball is better quality, the white thing was kind of a troll but it wasn't weird or outlandish, just an observation.
 
2012-07-07 06:59:21 PM

mikaloyd: TheJoe03: College ball is pretty shiatty quality, I guess people like how white some teams are perhaps.



TheJoe03: He's kind of a troll, he just makes outlandish and weird remarks.


College basketball isn't shiatty by any stretch of the imagination, but it isn't, by definition, as good as the NBA.

The white thing is just joke/troll I would imagine.
 
2012-07-07 07:09:17 PM

mitchcumstein1: College basketball isn't shiatty by any stretch of the imagination, but it isn't, by definition, as good as the NBA.

The white thing is just joke/troll I would imagine.


shiatty quality in comparison to NBA, which is obvious. I don't follow it closely but the final I saw a couple years ago with Duke and that team from Indiana was farkin awful. I actually enjoy watching March Madness, so don't be too mad about it. The white thing is a bit of a troll but I think there is some truth to it. Not really trying to go to into that topic but people like players they can relate too.
 
2012-07-07 07:20:35 PM
U.S. Men's Team roster is out.

A Chris Paul/Kobe/Iguodala/LeBron/Chandler line up would be nightmarish to try to score against.
 
2012-07-07 07:38:43 PM

Schroedinger's Glory Hole: salvador.hardin: Schroedinger's Glory Hole: salvador.hardin: Schroedinger's Glory Hole: salvador.hardin: FreetardoRivera: salvador.hardin: Ohhh its funny. Zimmerman shot and killed a child and this man shoots basketballs very well. Shoot and shoot. Its funny when words are the same for different contexts. Also, its edgy because Zimmerman shot and killed a child. Its edgy when you make jokes that minimize a recent tragedy that didn't affect you directly. This headline is edgy and funny because George Zimmerman shot and killed a child.

you are just the worst sort of person

Well I haven't shot and/or killed any children so I'm, at most, the second worst sort of person.

It's funny for the same reason trick or treating at the VFW as Zombie Tillman is. It pisses off old curmedgeony homos such as yourself.

Do you um... do you know what a glory hole... is?

Also, you were only like three or four words short of a coherent thought there. Keep it up big guy. You'll get there.

Your comment is funny because I was making fun of you for not having a sense of humor and your proceeded to admit you don't understand my user name, confirming that you don't have a sense of humor. There's nothing wrong with somebody making a joke about a tragedy, get over it. People like you just make this shiat easier.

[sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net image 604x389]

When does a pentagon have 4 sides? When it intersects a plane.

Black people Trayvon shoot shoot Buick.

/If you think it is clever and thoughtless, outrage will just encourage more

Trust me, the humor of your name does not escape me. However, when I see someone who has named them self after random anonymous homo-sexual encounters accentuating their arguments with homo-phobic name calling... well I just have to question whether you understand the humor of your name.

/ its never a woman
// its always a dude

Schroedinger's cat is a thought experiment with a set of conditions that requires one to think of the cat as both dead and alive at th ...


One of the strangest troll on troll slap fights I have seen to date.
 
2012-07-07 07:39:13 PM

Neeek: U.S. Men's Team roster is out.

A Chris Paul/Kobe/Iguodala/LeBron/Chandler line up would be nightmarish to try to score against.


G Chris Paul
G Deron Williams
G Russell Westbrook
G Kobe Bryant
G James Harden
F LeBron James
F Andre Iguodala
F Kevin Durant
F Carmelo Anthony
F Blake Griffin
F Kevin Love
C Tyson Chandler

Would have rather seen Rudy Gay instead of James Harden, that's me though.

And yes, that line up would be a motherfarker to play against.
 
2012-07-07 10:59:34 PM

mitchcumstein1: Neeek: U.S. Men's Team roster is out.

A Chris Paul/Kobe/Iguodala/LeBron/Chandler line up would be nightmarish to try to score against.

G Chris Paul
G Deron Williams
G Russell Westbrook
G Kobe Bryant
G James Harden
F LeBron James
F Andre Iguodala
F Kevin Durant
F Carmelo Anthony
F Blake Griffin
F Kevin Love
C Tyson Chandler

Would have rather seen Rudy Gay instead of James Harden, that's me though.

And yes, that line up would be a motherfarker to play against.


I would put piggy at 2 and durant at 3. Now you have a more athletic first team & offensives dynamo. Kobe needs to come off bench.
 
2012-07-07 11:00:11 PM
FTFA--"HeatNation continues to grow," Wade wrote on Twitter late Friday night.

'HeatNation? Really, Wade? Really??
 
2012-07-07 11:16:44 PM

TheJoe03: mikaloyd: outlandish and weird remarks.

That wasn't outlandish OR weird. Go ahead and claim college ball is better quality, the white thing was kind of a troll but it wasn't weird or outlandish, just an observation.


You just go right ahead and have this argument all on your own. I'll just watch if its all the same to you.
 
2012-07-08 12:23:59 AM

mikaloyd: I'll just watch if its all the same to you.


I'll watch too, just don't claim it's higher quality, makes you look foolish. You think college football is higher quality than the pros as well? Doesn't mean it's better, but it is what it is.
 
2012-07-08 01:12:19 AM

mitchcumstein1: Neeek: U.S. Men's Team roster is out.

A Chris Paul/Kobe/Iguodala/LeBron/Chandler line up would be nightmarish to try to score against.

G Chris Paul
G Deron Williams
G Russell Westbrook
G Kobe Bryant
G James Harden
F LeBron James
F Andre Iguodala
F Kevin Durant
F Carmelo Anthony
F Blake Griffin
F Kevin Love
C Tyson Chandler

Would have rather seen Rudy Gay instead of James Harden, that's me though.

And yes, that line up would be a motherfarker to play against.


Meh, Rudy Gay is more of a primary 1v1 scoring type whereas Harden works well in the P&R and is a facilitator. When you've got a team full of guys who can go 1 on 1 it's good to have a guy like Harden who has a different strength.
 
2012-07-08 03:07:54 AM

Schroedinger's Glory Hole: fatalvenom: Schroedinger's Glory Hole: First of many. Ray will be the special guest star for this season, only to have his character killed off in the next (Right in time to galvanize the team for their first threepeat). After they do a tasteful goodbye in the Dexter series finale the next superstar looking for a ring will join and the cycle repeats. I hope it's Rajon.

Seriously, fark Boston. This is what you get for letting two of those 9/11 planes out of Logan (Note: NYKnicks traded rights for revenge for another key piece to a 2005 NBA championship team)

What are you dumb micks going to do now? Shoot someone's preggo wife and blame it on the black guy...

9/10.

First you start babbling incoherently, then you bring up 9/11 & Logan, then you shoot off a Mick blast.

Well done, good troll.

Thank you, I think there is something for everyone to hate on there. Although I don't consider myself a troll per se, I am just more on LeBron's dick than anyone. It always looks like trolling when it comes down from the 9 1/2 inch catbird seat. I also farking detest Boston sports.



I think we found Iamright's alt.
 
2012-07-08 04:30:12 AM

182: lol...i hope the heat roll off three or four titles in a row. i love to see the butthurtness.


I see more band wagoning than butt hurting. Heat gear everywhere after the second title.
 
2012-07-08 05:47:39 AM
Why won't webmasters get it that users hate autoplay?
 
2012-07-08 05:48:57 AM
For years now, it's been considered bad nettiquite for a page to have autoplaying music because it's annoying. Why should video be any different?
 
2012-07-08 06:28:30 AM

Schroedinger's Glory Hole: First of many. Ray will be the special guest star for this season, only to have his character killed off in the next (Right in time to galvanize the team for their first threepeat). After they do a tasteful goodbye in the Dexter series finale the next superstar looking for a ring will join and the cycle repeats. I hope it's Rajon.

Seriously, fark Boston. This is what you get for letting two of those 9/11 planes out of Logan (Note: NYKnicks traded rights for revenge for another key piece to a 2005 NBA championship team)

What are you dumb micks going to do now? Shoot someone's preggo wife and blame it on the black guy...


10/10 you had me in stitches.
 
2012-07-09 09:56:01 AM
Kinda obvious he wasn't sticking around Boston when they told him Bradley would be starting and then they got Terry to commit. "Hey Ray, you wanna be a 3rd-string SG? We'd really like you to stick around and never play."
 
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