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(KCTV5 Kansas City)   I'd rather take a bullet to the head. Woman describes agony after she passes 63 kidney stones   (kctv5.com) divider line 79
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2012-07-07 01:29:52 AM  
In a row?

[Clerks]
 
2012-07-07 02:13:08 AM  
3.bp.blogspot.com

"Drop them, Sarah Calderon! They will be found!

YOU WON'T !
"
 
2012-07-07 03:38:18 AM  
Bus 62 must be pissed.
 
2012-07-07 03:39:10 AM  
padresteve.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-07 03:40:07 AM  
Keep going, honey. Almost got enough substrate for a 20 gallon tank.
 
2012-07-07 03:41:13 AM  
....
 
2012-07-07 03:48:32 AM  
I have Ulcerative Colitis so I've had my fair of kidney stones this past year. It really is painful. I feel for that lady.
 
2012-07-07 03:50:13 AM  
Never knew they were that small
 
2012-07-07 03:51:04 AM  
Any Deadwood fans here? Remember when Swearengen was in agony due to kidney stones? What a show that was!
 
2012-07-07 03:53:15 AM  
One had me in the ER wishing for death after I got one during a commercial flight.

Women who've had them and who have kids prefer the pain of childbirth.

Yay Toradol IV FTW!

/do I really have to pee through a coffee filter for a week?
 
2012-07-07 03:53:56 AM  
If she was in a hospital why was she not on opioid analgesics? Doc said to tough it out?
 
2012-07-07 03:54:48 AM  

lohphat: Women who've had them and who have kids prefer the pain of childbirth.


Yeah, but babies are way uglier.
 
2012-07-07 03:56:14 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Never knew they were that small


twss
 
2012-07-07 04:09:49 AM  
Yeah that's a good argument for a mercy kill. That or medical coma.
 
2012-07-07 04:31:54 AM  

ybishop: If she was in a hospital why was she not on opioid analgesics? Doc said to tough it out?


They don't work. My stepfather passed a kidney stone once, and they couldn't give him enough morphine to even dull the pain. The nurse told me at the time she'd seen men given a nearly lethal dosage and they were still screaming and begging for more.

She may well have been on painkillers, but only death can cure that pain.
 
2012-07-07 04:32:13 AM  
STENT the word is STENT.
 
2012-07-07 04:32:53 AM  
She must have drank too much pop.
 
2012-07-07 04:40:31 AM  

Gyrfalcon: ybishop: If she was in a hospital why was she not on opioid analgesics? Doc said to tough it out?

They don't work. My stepfather passed a kidney stone once, and they couldn't give him enough morphine to even dull the pain. The nurse told me at the time she'd seen men given a nearly lethal dosage and they were still screaming and begging for more.

She may well have been on painkillers, but only death can cure that pain.


Ok then, general anesthesia and cut them out!
 
2012-07-07 04:46:37 AM  

libranoelrose: She must have drank too much pop.


Or milk or taken too much guaifenesin.
 
2012-07-07 04:51:42 AM  
FTFA: "He pulled the stint and it felt like I had five kids because, what he didn't know, is there were five calcified kidney stones that had formed to the stint," Calderon said.

And Calderon said removing the stint essentially opened the flood gates. By her count, she said she passed 63 stones over the next three days in the hospital.

"It's just one after another, after another, after another, and I was just holding on to my hospital chair like 'oh my gosh,'" she said.


I'm cringing.
 
2012-07-07 05:09:36 AM  
Tegretol worked wonders for me. You know how the idea of injecting yourself makes you queasy? I don't know how diabetics do it, but I do know how kidney stone sufferers would do it ... without hesitation.
 
2012-07-07 05:11:56 AM  
Maybe the bizznatch will start drinking more water now?

I don't understand how people think they can get away with drinking soda or sugary shiat for 30 years and expect nothing bad to happen.
 
2012-07-07 05:20:45 AM  
TFA was almost as painful as a kidney stone. "keep her passages open?" "opened the flood gates?" What is she, the Erie Canal? And yeah, how long does it take to look up "stent" in the dictionary?
 
2012-07-07 05:31:25 AM  
I personally, would rather give birth to a bowling ball with a knife stuck into my spine.
And you'd be surprised - a tiny stone of barely millimetre proportions can feel like you're passing a goddamned boulder. (kidney stones and gall stones are horrendous to pass)
I sympathise with the lady and how she probably felt and only hope that her new diet really does help :-)
Some people are prone to ending up being bags of rocks, some aren't.
 
2012-07-07 05:32:08 AM  

accelerus: Maybe the bizznatch will start drinking more water now?

I don't understand how people think they can get away with drinking soda or sugary shiat for 30 years and expect nothing bad to happen.


Some people are just genetically predisposed. My husband guzzles about a gallon of water a day, and the only "soft drinks" he ever consumes are homemade lemonade and unsweetened green tea. Still manages to grow himself two or three kidney stones a year.


/his kidneys are not very useful generally; gout also runs in the family.
 
2012-07-07 05:44:24 AM  
Passed a stone, yesterday. Always a horror...
 
2012-07-07 06:26:03 AM  
I remember a movie or TV scene where a guy is peeing into a bucket and you here clanging as if he is shooting stones out ... Can't seem to find it
 
2012-07-07 06:27:01 AM  

ontariolightning: Any Deadwood fans here? Remember when Swearengen was in agony due to kidney stones?


It's called a gleet ;)


A Terrible Human: or taken too much guaifenesin


You mean that crap not only doesn't work, it makes you develop kidney stones??
Fark you and your $2/each pills, Mucinex! Fark you right in the ear!
 
2012-07-07 06:28:30 AM  
I'm passing a kidney stone right now so I'm really getting a kick out of YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAARGGGGHHHHH!
 
2012-07-07 06:32:04 AM  
Man, couldn't they just load her into the lithotripsy chamber and start firing away? Blow those f*ckers up!
*pew pew pewpew*!
 
jbb
2012-07-07 06:38:01 AM  
no, no, no,no, no...... please take back this article!

Got a number of small kidney stones and been in some pain, not agonizing but pretty bad... Going to see the specialist on tuesday about possible surgery.

I did NOT want to read this article right now!
/scared
 
2012-07-07 07:08:31 AM  
I'm 23, I have a low sodium/low calcium diet and I've still had 4 kidney stones. I drink over a liter of water a day. Some people just get them. Morphine doesn't usually help much, just end up begging for more and looking like a junkie or something.
 
2012-07-07 07:09:54 AM  

jbb: no, no, no,no, no...... please take back this article!

Got a number of small kidney stones and been in some pain, not agonizing but pretty bad... Going to see the specialist on tuesday about possible surgery.

I did NOT want to read this article right now!
/scared


'Sallright - don't panic. Just tell 'em your pain is getting unmanageable and you want them to do a urethral removal under general. Yes, this sounds bad but frankly it wasn't - I unfortunately had to have 4 over a period of 3 months last year, as stones kept forming. You'll get knocked up, and wake up with very minor pain as long as they hook you up with a decent post-surgical painkiller, I had a dilaudid machine I could beep every 10 minutes for a bit more - kept things at the "hmm ouch, that's mildly annoying" level at the worst. Was released the next morning (surgery was done around 8pm.) All good after that - the first time you pee may look a little scary, but it's just sort of erm... leftovers from the surgery, and once again it was maybe at the mildly annoying pain level. Felt fine after that.

P.S. Some key points:
1 - Yes, you want the urethral endoscopic surgery, not getting cut open unless a stone is so big it's physically impossible otherwise. Your recovery doing it this way will be hours, not days - and almost 0 pain in comparison. As bad as it sounds, I experienced no residual side effect or anything, within a day I was a happy camper, and as normal as I ever get.
2 - No, do NOT let them do this under a local. Not cool, trust me - take heads if you have to but demand general anesthesia.
3 - Also require that they have a decent pain management plan for the immediate 12 hours or so post-surgery, one that involves an IV painkiller of reasonable strength.
4 - If they use dilaudid for that, request and require that they have a maximum dose of Zofran that they can hit you with through your IV line. Sometimes the painkillers can cause nausea. IV Zofran at max does will clear that up literally in seconds.

Stick with that, have them keep you in the hospital for the 12 hours after your surgery so you can get the recovery-assistance drugs you need, and you're golden. Seriously, it never went above "mildly painful and annoying" from anything they did surgically, they are NOT cutting you open which is endlessly less painful and dangerous.

Good luck man - It's not FUN - but if they manage it properly and get them out of you with proper procedure and care, it's not even as bad as a tooth extraction pain and annoyance-wise.
 
2012-07-07 07:12:56 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: You'll get knocked up, and...


ROFL FFS - knocked OUT! OUT! Unless you have a very sketchy surgeon anyway...

Yeah it's too late for me to be writing wall o' texts, even in a good cause - that is now obvious sigh.
 
2012-07-07 07:17:14 AM  
Only time I've had morphine was due to a kidney stone. It had me pissing blood. The kidney stone, not the morphine.
 
2012-07-07 07:22:36 AM  
Add me to the morphine is not enough crowd.
 
2012-07-07 07:34:11 AM  
Lemme add here that morphine was not good enough for me either, while Dilaudid was. If one doesn't work, ask them to try some alternates. Worth a shot, although I'm quite sure it won't work with everyone - what the heck do you have to lose at that point?
 
2012-07-07 07:37:35 AM  
This poor lady's case sounds exceptional. No doubt about that.

But in general, having passed stones on two separate occasions (not sure how many, you usually don't really know), and also having had a broken leg+ankle in the past, I've gotta say the broken leg was agonizingly worse than kidney stones. No comparison in the slightest.

Yeah, kidney stones have their moments, but really that's what it is amounts to. Some bursts of fairly serious pain every so often. The broken leg was constant agony round the clock, 1440 minutes per day for about a week until the swelling went down some, even while on oxy.
 
2012-07-07 07:38:13 AM  
The standard procedure for even a single kidney stone should be immediate suicide.
 
2012-07-07 08:03:58 AM  
I've passed 4 stones in the past 12 years. The best way to describe the pain -- it's like having a knife stabbed into your kidney, twisting round and round, and to go with that is the pain a guy gets after getting kicked in the nuts ..... then to that add puking up everything .... and then convulsive dry heaves. Damn I thought I was going to die and at the same time afraid I wasn't.
 
2012-07-07 08:06:33 AM  
I have never before or since felt anything as hateful. I went in ninety minutes from "gosh I wonder what that mild back twinge is" to writhing and vomiting on the ER waiting room floor. They gave me morphine in the ER and Toradol to take home, and when that infinitesimal black grainlet finally made its bloody way out it's the only event I remember from those drug-hazed four days--seriously, this happened on a Wednesday and I passed the stone finally on Saturday evening-- and all I can remember thinking in that time is "Must drink more. Drink half juice, half water. Must drink more." and looking in that paper cone at that terrifying, barely visible speck.
 
2012-07-07 08:10:09 AM  

fusillade762: lohphat: Women who've had them and who have kids prefer the pain of childbirth.

Yeah, but babies are way uglier.


...and you don't get arrested for throwing out the kidney stones.


But seriously, what is the good of all our advanced medical care if dealing with kidney stones is still compared unfavourably to childbirth? I've heard so many stories of how it is the worst pain ever, so I don't know why there are no standard procedures available yet that can deal with it and render those stories as belonging to the group that begin with "back in my day..." Sometimes I think doctors must simply be sadists.
 
2012-07-07 08:19:56 AM  
They showed her eating a sandwich on processed bread with processed cheese and her fridge had one bell pepper in there. It also showed a jug of that simply lemonade, that while not overly processed, has tons of sugar in it.
 
2012-07-07 08:23:32 AM  

Nidiot: fusillade762: lohphat: Women who've had them and who have kids prefer the pain of childbirth.

Yeah, but babies are way uglier.

...and you don't get arrested for throwing out the kidney stones.


But seriously, what is the good of all our advanced medical care if dealing with kidney stones is still compared unfavourably to childbirth? I've heard so many stories of how it is the worst pain ever, so I don't know why there are no standard procedures available yet that can deal with it and render those stories as belonging to the group that begin with "back in my day..." Sometimes I think doctors must simply be sadists.


Because they're sudden, mostly warning-free, and they mostly pass on their (horrifying) own. They use lithotripsy to break up the largest and most recalcitrant ones, but I swear you could have taken a baseball bat to my kidney to whack the stone out of place and it probably wouldn't have hurt any worse.
 
2012-07-07 08:34:53 AM  
For those men who have not had a kidney stone, let me try to describe the pain. Imagine a glass pipette is threaded up the length of your penis. Now lay your member on a table and have your ex-wife smash it with a hammer. Now remove the glass shards by urinating. Kidney stone pain is a little worse than that.

I had a 7 mm and a 9mm stone. Before surgery, I wept when I pissed. There was one interesting medication I took when I was trying to pass the first one. It was supposed to open up the pipes to make it easier to pass. But the neat side effect was "dry ejaculation". Semen was diverted back into the bladder instead of out the end of Mr. Happy. Freaked me out when it happened, but Mrs. R appreciated the no mess - no fuss aspect. She could roll over and go back to sleep as soon as I was done.
 
2012-07-07 08:38:55 AM  
I've had concussions, been stabbed (accidentally) through the hand & in my side, had two tumors removed, tore a calf muscle, cut my palm & had to stitch it closed myself, and once even broke all of the long bones in one foot, just to name a few memorable injuries.

The ONLY time I have ever taken pain meds was when I had my first kidney stone. I needed vicodin just to be able to see straight & keep from vomiting.

They are bastards beyond compare. Who would believe a freaking grain of sand could be such an infliction.
 
2012-07-07 08:43:59 AM  
You want to talk about big kidney stones? I had one about the size of a marble. The had to go inside, put in a stent, and eventually blast that sucker so the pieces could pass. Unfortunately, because I had so many kidney stones that had been developing, my left kidney had shut down, and because there was very little chance of it ever functioning again, they removed my left kidney. It was right about the same time, I was told my Dad had been born with only 1 kidney, and lived his entire life like that.

About a year before the kidney removal, I also had to have a total hysterectomy, thanks to uterine cancer, and may have contributed to the kidney problems, along with Diabetes.
 
2012-07-07 08:48:42 AM  

masercot: Passed a stone, yesterday. Always a horror...


I passed one three months ago and then passed another on the Fourth of July. This second one has been harder to get over.

The worst part is that the CT scan shows that there is at least one more in my kidney so I get to do this again soon.

/yay me
 
2012-07-07 08:51:18 AM  

Sentient: I've had concussions, been stabbed (accidentally) through the hand & in my side, had two tumors removed, tore a calf muscle, cut my palm & had to stitch it closed myself, and once even broke all of the long bones in one foot, just to name a few memorable injuries.

The ONLY time I have ever taken pain meds was when I had my first kidney stone. I needed vicodin just to be able to see straight & keep from vomiting.

They are bastards beyond compare. Who would believe a freaking grain of sand could be such an infliction.


Concur completely. I've had a lot of things happen to me as well. Broken bones, sprains, puncture wounds, concussion, 2nd degree burns, you name it. I even woke up while having wisdom teeth extracted.

Nothing. NOTHING compares to the pain of a kidney stone. I passed my first one not knowing what it was. I was crying from the pain, curled into the fetal position on the floor. I thought my appendix had burst. Wife called the ambulance. On arrival at the hospital, the first person looked at me and without hesitation said "kidney stone". Nothing could even touch the pain until the little bastard passed.

63? I'm nauseous just thinking about it.
 
2012-07-07 08:52:03 AM  

haemaker: Gyrfalcon: ybishop: If she was in a hospital why was she not on opioid analgesics? Doc said to tough it out?

They don't work. My stepfather passed a kidney stone once, and they couldn't give him enough morphine to even dull the pain. The nurse told me at the time she'd seen men given a nearly lethal dosage and they were still screaming and begging for more.

She may well have been on painkillers, but only death can cure that pain.

Ok then, general anesthesia and cut them out!


Why not take Risperdal followed by a gunshot. Psychiatrist gets paid. Plus you die!!!!
 
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