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(The Atlantic)   Pictures of the inside of the CERN lab. It looks like the Death Star   (theatlantic.com) divider line 85
    More: Cool, Death Star, CERN, Standard Model, Nuclear Physics, fiber-optics, Peter Higgs, LHC, higgs particles  
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2012-07-06 06:52:21 PM  
Imagine a very tiny wormhole opens, causing a complete set of blueprints for the LHC to fall back in time and land on the desks of the world's foremost engineers of the moment.

What would engineers of the 1930s make of them? Of the 1830s? Of the 1630s?
 
2012-07-06 07:02:53 PM  
1930s: This is some kind of particle accelerator.

1830s: WTF kind of contraption is this?

1630s: SATAN!!!
 
2012-07-06 07:23:36 PM  

Uzzah: Imagine a very tiny wormhole opens, causing a complete set of blueprints for the LHC to fall back in time and land on the desks of the world's foremost engineers of the moment.

What would engineers of the 1930s make of them? Of the 1830s? Of the 1630s?


The electronic schematics would be indecipherable in any of those eras. I'd guess that the way the hardware is being used in the detectors would be equally indecipherable, but I wouldn't bet on it for the 1930s though.
 
2012-07-06 08:17:42 PM  

revrendjim: 1930s: This is some kind of particle accelerator.

1830s: WTF kind of contraption is this?

1630s: SATAN!!!


2012 (US): SATAN!!!
 
2012-07-06 08:24:37 PM  
cdn.theatlantic.com

I like how they keep the controls simple.
 
2012-07-06 08:30:43 PM  
That is most definitely NOT the Death Star. There are handrails all over that thing.
 
2012-07-06 08:34:34 PM  
Conspicuously absent...

i341.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-06 08:42:06 PM  

jtown: [cdn.theatlantic.com image 640x421]

I like how they keep the controls simple.


Why is the OFF button protected!!??!ow

smrtdsgn.com
 
2012-07-06 08:42:31 PM  

Swarley: That is most definitely NOT the Death Star. There are handrails all over that thing.


Safety regulations and protection of workers are some of the first things to go in an empire. Stormtroopers were probably paid minimum wage, too.
 
2012-07-06 08:43:23 PM  
Many Bothans died to write this article.
 
2012-07-06 08:51:47 PM  
Science!
 
2012-07-06 08:53:27 PM  
Looks more like Black Mesa.
 
2012-07-06 08:57:09 PM  
Just how long are we gonna let these clowns try to blow up the universe?
 
2012-07-06 09:00:08 PM  
Sounds more like a challenge for a PS contest theme. "Make this CERN lab look more at home in the Star Wars universe"
 
2012-07-06 09:06:53 PM  
Meanwhile in Amerika we can't maintain our infrastructure, upgrade our rail systems, repair our roads, and have to hitch rides on Russian rockets to get into space.

We've forgotten how to lead the modern developed world.

Unless you're talking about per capita healthcare costs, percentage of population in prisons, and low taxes for rich people.

The US Super Collider we would have built was cut by congress.

The US government set the goal for the moon and the US lead the world in aerospace and high-paying engineers expanding the middle class.

Now we just have service workers and are discouraged from innovating anything by the patent system.

USA! USA! USA!
 
2012-07-06 09:10:20 PM  
It's actually the equipment for the time tunnel
 
2012-07-06 09:10:56 PM  

SJKebab: The electronic schematics would be indecipherable in any of those eras. I'd guess that the way the hardware is being used in the detectors would be equally indecipherable, but I wouldn't bet on it for the 1930s though.


Depends on if they bring Tesla in
 
2012-07-06 09:11:54 PM  
Well, now we know why it cost so much money to build. They used miles of Monster Cable™
 
2012-07-06 09:15:54 PM  
www.darrenravens.com
 
2012-07-06 09:18:46 PM  
I felt like I was looking at Optimus Prime's sphincter.
 
2012-07-06 09:21:05 PM  
I've untangled some ugly cabling knots in my time. Like shiat you wouldn't believe, almost wrapped around the room and behind panels no lone man could lift. What they strung up at CERN? That's not science, that's farking art. That's a museum for how to do it right the first time. You farking lazy asses.

lohphat: Meanwhile in Amerika we can't maintain our infrastructure, upgrade our rail systems, repair our roads, and have to hitch rides on Russian rockets to get into space.

We've forgotten how to lead the modern developed world.


I disagree! We didn't forget anything. We just realized it's simpler to subcontract to a cheaper workforce than to put it together yourself. We didn't forget, we got lazy. There's a distinction.
 
2012-07-06 09:34:34 PM  
This thread needs some Large Hadron Rap.
 
2012-07-06 09:36:02 PM  

Mantour: [www.darrenravens.com image 640x480]


The One Free Man.
 
2012-07-06 09:36:03 PM  
The 2nd pic looks more like the rebel base on Hoth. And is that a GHOST?!?

cdn.theatlantic.com
 
2012-07-06 09:48:58 PM  

fusillade762: The 2nd pic looks more like the rebel base on Hoth. And is that a GHOST?!?

[cdn.theatlantic.com image 640x400]


timetraveler here to document the historic event, the camera happened to snap them as they left this locus
 
2012-07-06 09:51:14 PM  
i.ytimg.com

I figure we can extract at least ten to the twenty-first photons per cubic centimeter which will give one kilojoule per cubic centimeter at 600 nanometers, or, one megajoule per liter
.
 
2012-07-06 09:55:50 PM  
The Death Star probably has a few of those.
 
2012-07-06 09:56:45 PM  

Tyrosine: This thread needs some Large Hadron Rap.


Kanye could take some pointers from that beat
 
2012-07-06 10:02:34 PM  
No way anything like this would ever be designed/built the the millennial generation. It would at best be a particle accelerating game on Facebook.
 
2012-07-06 10:08:32 PM  

Mantour: [www.darrenravens.com image 640x480]


users.content.ytmnd.com
 
2012-07-06 10:10:13 PM  
Just to state the obvious, but clearly quite a few really smart people were involved in this.
 
2012-07-06 10:25:04 PM  

KoolerThanJesus: Just to state the obvious, but clearly quite a few really smart people were involved in this.


It's the most complex machine ever built, so you are correct. The ATLAS detector is the largest scientific instrument ever built, by any measure you care to use, volume, dimensions, weight etc etc. The nice thing about it being physics equipment is a lot of the engineering is actually done by the physicists themselves.
 
2012-07-06 10:35:42 PM  
"Commence primary ignition!" "Dammit, Bernard, how many times do we have to tell you, this is NOT the Death Star!" "...TK421, get back to your post." "I swear to God, Bernard, I will find a way to put you in the path of that beam."
 
2012-07-06 10:37:09 PM  

lohphat: Meanwhile in Amerika we can't maintain our infrastructure, upgrade our rail systems, repair our roads, and have to hitch rides on Russian rockets to get into space.

We've forgotten how to lead the modern developed world.

Unless you're talking about per capita healthcare costs, percentage of population in prisons, and low taxes for rich people.

The US Super Collider we would have built was cut by congress.

The US government set the goal for the moon and the US lead the world in aerospace and high-paying engineers expanding the middle class.

Now we just have service workers and are discouraged from innovating anything by the patent system.

USA! USA! USA!


That would be sad if only it were true.... oh wait.

[nowihasasad.jpg.]
 
2012-07-06 10:38:05 PM  
...or maybe "I swear to Higgs, Bernard..."
 
2012-07-06 10:48:38 PM  
That machine is remarkable!
 
2012-07-06 11:07:22 PM  
Strange that they need such a complex bit of technology like the ATLAS pixel detector to determine if Emma Watson nude photos are legit. Seems like there are lots of qualified human pixel detectors who have seen many 'shops in the before.

/I kid because I don't understand much of anything they're doing at CERN, but the engineering alone is amazing to behold.
 
2012-07-06 11:11:49 PM  
The researchers use it at night to warm up their burrito's. Nothing like munching on newly formed subatomic particles to spice things up.
 
2012-07-06 11:15:06 PM  

redonkulon: The researchers use it at night to warm up their burrito's. Nothing like munching on newly formed subatomic particles to spice things up.


it's the power source for the intercontinental mission burrito tunnel
 
2012-07-06 11:22:34 PM  

lohphat: Meanwhile in Amerika we can't maintain our infrastructure, upgrade our rail systems, repair our roads, and have to hitch rides on Russian rockets to get into space.


To be fair - neither can Europe.
 
2012-07-06 11:47:01 PM  

rmcooper4: Strange that they need such a complex bit of technology like the ATLAS pixel detector to determine if Emma Watson nude photos are legit.


I hear Higgs has the original.
 
2012-07-06 11:47:49 PM  

Tyrosine: This thread needs some Large Hadron Rap.


How did I just know MC Hawking would be involved.
 
2012-07-06 11:49:26 PM  
www.slipperybrick.com

Goatse?
 
2012-07-06 11:53:08 PM  

Snatch Bandergrip: rmcooper4: Strange that they need such a complex bit of technology like the ATLAS pixel detector to determine if Emma Watson nude photos are legit.

I hear Higgs has the original.


I wonder if he has a Fark handle. If we knew, maybe we could get him to post it.
 
2012-07-07 12:23:42 AM  

GratuityIncluded: [i.ytimg.com image 480x360]

I figure we can extract at least ten to the twenty-first photons per cubic centimeter which will give one kilojoule per cubic centimeter at 600 nanometers, or, one megajoule per liter.


what about the mirror i made you?
 
2012-07-07 12:26:18 AM  

rmcooper4: Snatch Bandergrip: rmcooper4: Strange that they need such a complex bit of technology like the ATLAS pixel detector to determine if Emma Watson nude photos are legit.

I hear Higgs has the original.

I wonder if he has a Fark handle. If we knew, maybe we could get him to post it.


that would be wonderful, i'd sure like to smell what he's got cooking.
 
2012-07-07 12:54:33 AM  
Mine's bigger.
 
2012-07-07 12:57:27 AM  

gingerjet: lohphat: Meanwhile in Amerika we can't maintain our infrastructure, upgrade our rail systems, repair our roads, and have to hitch rides on Russian rockets to get into space.

To be fair - neither can Europe.


No, "The South" of Europe can't.

I travel to Europe frequently and the standard of living is much higher for the average citizen than ours is. Trams and trains are frequent and reliable for the most part, the intercity trains run at 300kph, the roads don't resemble goat paths, people don't have to go bankrupt or lose their family home or job when they get sick.

They're *civilized* and understand the concept of the common good and sacrifice as opposed to the US credo of "fark you, I got mine."
 
2012-07-07 01:00:51 AM  
On a serious note, that collider is amazing. Stunning. Breath-taking. Its 17 miles long. Completely packed with all of the world's most cutting edge and high tech... whatever. Besides the incredible length, the sheer size in every other dimension is hard to comprehend. It's all just too big and amazing and powerful to have any bearing for its opulence among anything I encounter regularly. And the icing on the cake is that it was ALL created just to satisfy curiosity and ensure that something was real. Something that we were already fairly certain existed and behaved in a known manner, we just wanted proof. Hell, I can't even wrap my head around how small the sub-atomic particle they found is itself. Everything from the device to the goal to the speeds and energies involved is so far beyond the realm of all man-kind.... or at least it used to be.

And surely it was for the last 40,000 years. You gotta hand it to today's monkeys, they have become very tricky monkeys. God bless them, it's all so splendiferous.
 
2012-07-07 01:07:56 AM  
This looks like it is one of the most expensive projects in human history, which begs the question: who funded all this?
 
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