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bow
2012-07-06 06:43:46 PM  
Is 2.3 really a good GPA in Germany?

Maybe that explains why he graduated in 3 semesters...
 
2012-07-06 06:45:58 PM  
I never had that problem.
 
2012-07-06 07:57:36 PM  

bow: Is 2.3 really a good GPA in Germany?

Maybe that explains why he graduated in 3 semesters...


I didn't see where anyone said whether it was good or not.

Then again, maybe they aren't as inclined to hand out As for managing to stay awake for a few minutes. I dunno.
 
2012-07-06 08:12:30 PM  
The latest tactic is to punish folks, so...
 
2012-07-06 08:14:20 PM  

Relatively Obscure: bow: Is 2.3 really a good GPA in Germany?

Maybe that explains why he graduated in 3 semesters...

I didn't see where anyone said whether it was good or not.

Then again, maybe they aren't as inclined to hand out As for managing to stay awake for a few minutes. I dunno.


C is supposed to be average, In united states of failure B is the average a C is pretty much a failing grade,
 
2012-07-06 08:15:06 PM  
Silly Germans.
 
2012-07-06 08:15:41 PM  
If the school agreed beforehand that this was permitted, they can't really complain afterwards that someone managed to make use of it.
 
2012-07-06 08:18:51 PM  

bow: Is 2.3 really a good GPA in Germany?

Maybe that explains why he graduated in 3 semesters...


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You may wish to sit down for what I am about to tell you. Once you graduate your GPA is meaningless.
 
2012-07-06 08:19:54 PM  
If he would have failed a class or two, the school would have collected extra money from him, fight?

Soooooo........
 
2012-07-06 08:20:36 PM  

david_gaithersburg: You may wish to sit down for what I am about to tell you. Once you graduate your GPA is meaningless.


What do they call a doctor that finishes at the bottom of his class?

"Doctor".
 
2012-07-06 08:22:09 PM  

bow: Is 2.3 really a good GPA in Germany?

Maybe that explains why he graduated in 3 semesters...


The wikipedia article seems to explain it well. Seems he got a low A-. Not shabby.
 
2012-07-06 08:28:31 PM  
*facepalm* Nein-compoops
 
2012-07-06 08:28:35 PM  
I skipped out of 9th grade English, but my HS still required 4 years. So I had to take two years of 12th grade English. You don't want to lose the good students who up your test scores, y'know. Not to mention we were guaranteed to show up on Count Day.

/do other states/countries even have that?
//bodies in seats two days a year = how much cash your district gets?
 
2012-07-06 08:29:11 PM  

HAMMERTOE: david_gaithersburg: You may wish to sit down for what I am about to tell you. Once you graduate your GPA is meaningless.

What do they call a doctor that finishes at the bottom of his class?

"Doctor".


What do they call a time lord who steals a TARDIS?

"The Doctor"
 
2012-07-06 08:39:02 PM  
I think revenue grabbing scheme. at least that's my guess
 
2012-07-06 08:39:59 PM  
This is obviously silly.

But on the other hand, three guys sharing notes from three different classes so that they can all pass all three classes at once is a little iffy.
 
2012-07-06 08:41:12 PM  

Fluid: If the school agreed beforehand that this was permitted, they can't really complain afterwards that someone managed to make use of it.


What I'm wondering is, how is their system set up? I mean, in American colleges you need X credits to get a degree, with x credits of electives/core curriculum/etc. I can see if he didn't get enough credits, but if he didn't get enough credits he obviously didn't do something right....
 
2012-07-06 08:42:00 PM  
Now the Essen-based School of Economics and Management (FOM) want the 22-year-old to pay his fees up the end of 2011 - an extra €3,000.

That's like one month's payment on American student loans.
 
2012-07-06 08:46:10 PM  

Joshudan: HAMMERTOE: david_gaithersburg: You may wish to sit down for what I am about to tell you. Once you graduate your GPA is meaningless.

What do they call a doctor that finishes at the bottom of his class?

"Doctor".

What do they call a time lord who steals a TARDIS?

"The Doctor"


What do they call a TARDIS that kidnaps a time lord?

"Sexy"
 
2012-07-06 08:47:11 PM  

Dafatone: This is obviously silly.

But on the other hand, three guys sharing notes from three different classes so that they can all pass all three classes at once is a little iffy.


No more iffy than a class that doesn't offer any more than can be gleaned from a student's notes.
 
2012-07-06 08:49:14 PM  
Anyone else get a headache from the picture in the article?
 
2012-07-06 08:51:19 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: I skipped out of 9th grade English, but my HS still required 4 years. So I had to take two years of 12th grade English. You don't want to lose the good students who up your test scores, y'know. Not to mention we were guaranteed to show up on Count Day.

/do other states/countries even have that?
//bodies in seats two days a year = how much cash your district gets?


When I was in HS we were allowed to graduate early if we had the proper credits and also got credit for having a job. We did our work and moved on. They weren't concerned with keeping us there for a seat count and considered it a credit to the teachers that we did well.

/GOML
 
2012-07-06 08:57:03 PM  

ScaliaDissenting: Now the Essen-based School of Economics and Management (FOM) want the 22-year-old to pay his fees up the end of 2011 - an extra €3,000.

That's like one month's payment on American student loans.


No thanks to you, your honor.

;)
 
2012-07-06 08:57:20 PM  

david_gaithersburg: bow: Is 2.3 really a good GPA in Germany?

Maybe that explains why he graduated in 3 semesters...

.
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You may wish to sit down for what I am about to tell you. Once you graduate your GPA is meaningless.


That's what people with a low GPA always say. To some degree they're correct, but if you graduate cum laude or above I guarantee you it makes a difference, maybe not 20 years later, but right out of college it sure does.

My son studies engineering and has a 4.0 GPA, he has head hunters after him all the time. These guys don't fly in from half way across the country to recruit students below a 3.0. This summer he's working an internship that he not only earns college credits for but pays him $25 an hour. Not bad for someone who's hasn't even graduated yet.
 
2012-07-06 08:59:27 PM  
the junior college I attended allowed you to "clep"(?) out of a course. In theory you could buy the book study it then go to the testing center and test without ever setting foot in the class or even enrolling. Only knew a few people that did it. The school still got their money for tuition at the start of the semester and for the price of the book.

/don't know which I would trust more, someone who went through the curriculum in the class with a prof, or someone who read just read a book and took one test.
 
2012-07-06 09:01:40 PM  

Joshudan: HAMMERTOE: david_gaithersburg: You may wish to sit down for what I am about to tell you. Once you graduate your GPA is meaningless.

What do they call a doctor that finishes at the bottom of his class?

"Doctor".

What do they call a time lord who steals a TARDIS?

"The Doctor"


What do they call a mad scientist with four live mechanical arms who tries to kill Spider-Man?

"Doc"
 
2012-07-06 09:06:31 PM  

Greenville: Joshudan: HAMMERTOE: david_gaithersburg: You may wish to sit down for what I am about to tell you. Once you graduate your GPA is meaningless.

What do they call a doctor that finishes at the bottom of his class?

"Doctor".

What do they call a time lord who steals a TARDIS?

"The Doctor"

What do they call a mad scientist with four live mechanical arms who tries to kill Spider-Man?

"Doc"


What does Bugs Bunny call virtually everyone he meets?



"Doc".
 
2012-07-06 09:09:24 PM  

The_Time_Master: Joshudan: HAMMERTOE: david_gaithersburg: You may wish to sit down for what I am about to tell you. Once you graduate your GPA is meaningless.

What do they call a doctor that finishes at the bottom of his class?

"Doctor".

What do they call a time lord who steals a TARDIS?

"The Doctor"

What do they call a TARDIS that kidnaps a time lord?

"Sexy"


So much win.
 
2012-07-06 09:09:41 PM  

Apos: Greenville: Joshudan: HAMMERTOE: david_gaithersburg: You may wish to sit down for what I am about to tell you. Once you graduate your GPA is meaningless.

What do they call a doctor that finishes at the bottom of his class?

"Doctor".

What do they call a time lord who steals a TARDIS?

"The Doctor"

What do they call a mad scientist with four live mechanical arms who tries to kill Spider-Man?

"Doc"

What does Bugs Bunny call virtually everyone he meets?



"Doc".


Who does Robert Palmer go to when he has a bad case of loving you?

"Doctor, Doctor"
 
2012-07-06 09:10:49 PM  
I wonder how many people they refunded money to that took 12 semesters to complete? My guess is somewhere between 0.
 
bow
2012-07-06 09:13:05 PM  

david_gaithersburg: bow: Is 2.3 really a good GPA in Germany?

Maybe that explains why he graduated in 3 semesters...

.
.
You may wish to sit down for what I am about to tell you. Once you graduate your GPA is meaningless.


They won't typically let you graduate if your GPA is that low, though.
 
2012-07-06 09:14:28 PM  

ReapTheChaos: david_gaithersburg: bow: Is 2.3 really a good GPA in Germany?

Maybe that explains why he graduated in 3 semesters...

.
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You may wish to sit down for what I am about to tell you. Once you graduate your GPA is meaningless.

That's what people with a low GPA always say. To some degree they're correct, but if you graduate cum laude or above I guarantee you it makes a difference, maybe not 20 years later, but right out of college it sure does.

My son studies engineering and has a 4.0 GPA, he has head hunters after him all the time. These guys don't fly in from half way across the country to recruit students below a 3.0. This summer he's working an internship that he not only earns college credits for but pays him $25 an hour. Not bad for someone who's hasn't even graduated yet.


Yeah if you're an engineer the GPA makes a difference, I guess. I got a 3.6 in Education and nobody gives a shiat. I still got a job in the field with people who got 2.5's (my college wouldn't even let you into the program if you had anything less than a 2.8) and I feel like I wasted my time and money getting those high marks. I could have went to a cheaper school and slacked off and still would have got the same job.
 
2012-07-06 09:16:36 PM  

Franco: C is pretty much a failing grade,


F
 
2012-07-06 09:17:52 PM  
Most course work programs are credit based, so time is not an issue. Plus, in order to have taken the exams and been given the credit for these courses the school must have agreed to the enrollment since schools require special permission to take a course load over 100%.

Thesis based programs often have "minimum time in residence" requirements, so even if your research wraps up in record time you still need to pay for "X" number of terms.
 
2012-07-06 09:19:12 PM  

ReapTheChaos: david_gaithersburg: bow: Is 2.3 really a good GPA in Germany?

Maybe that explains why he graduated in 3 semesters...

.
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You may wish to sit down for what I am about to tell you. Once you graduate your GPA is meaningless.

That's what people with a low GPA always say. To some degree they're correct, but if you graduate cum laude or above I guarantee you it makes a difference, maybe not 20 years later, but right out of college it sure does.

My son studies engineering and has a 4.0 GPA, he has head hunters after him all the time. These guys don't fly in from half way across the country to recruit students below a 3.0. This summer he's working an internship that he not only earns college credits for but pays him $25 an hour. Not bad for someone who's hasn't even graduated yet.


Well aren't you just the proud helicopter parent

My lawn care guy won't even stop the truck at the estate for a mere $25 an hour....
 
2012-07-06 09:23:37 PM  

ReapTheChaos: You may wish to sit down for what I am about to tell you. Once you graduate your GPA is meaningless.

That's what people with a low GPA always say.


As someone who always had high 3's, I agree with the OP.
No employer ever asked what my GPA was. Which for a short time after school, I found annoying, as I still thought GPA mattered and wanted to use it to show I knew my shiat. None ever cared.

Perhaps is varies by industry. I'm in IT. Maybe if you're a business or psych major someone might give a shiat?
 
2012-07-06 09:24:09 PM  

FriarReb98: Fluid: If the school agreed beforehand that this was permitted, they can't really complain afterwards that someone managed to make use of it.

What I'm wondering is, how is their system set up? I mean, in American colleges you need X credits to get a degree, with x credits of electives/core curriculum/etc. I can see if he didn't get enough credits, but if he didn't get enough credits he obviously didn't do something right....


depends on the college. some schools measure by clock hour. it also depends on whether the school is charging per-credit or not.
 
2012-07-06 09:33:13 PM  

david_gaithersburg: bow: Is 2.3 really a good GPA in Germany?

Maybe that explains why he graduated in 3 semesters...

You may wish to sit down for what I am about to tell you. Once you graduate your GPA is meaningless.


Tell that to Google. They want to know your GPA and won't even bother to interview you if it doesn't meet their standards. They're the worst sort of "click" around. From my year there as a contractor, I can say this. Google has the highest concentration of morons with degrees in the entire world.
 
2012-07-06 09:34:10 PM  

david_gaithersburg: bow: Is 2.3 really a good GPA in Germany?

Maybe that explains why he graduated in 3 semesters...

.
.
You may wish to sit down for what I am about to tell you. Once you graduate your GPA is meaningless.


Not quite, once you graduate and get about 2-3 years experience under your belt then your GPA is meaningless.

When you're fresh out of school your GPA is one of the first things an employer will ask you and is a common way for them to weed people out. If you spend your college career goofing off and doing just enough to graduate you're really shooting yourself in the foot.
 
2012-07-06 09:34:46 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: I skipped out of 9th grade English, but my HS still required 4 years. So I had to take two years of 12th grade English. You don't want to lose the good students who up your test scores, y'know. Not to mention we were guaranteed to show up on Count Day.

/do other states/countries even have that?
//bodies in seats two days a year = how much cash your district gets?


Same thing happened to me- They ran out of classes to give me to fill the state requirement so I was then forced as a 12th-grader to take 9th grade regular English (not the College-Prep one) just because I hadn't had it. Good ol' public education.
 
Biv
2012-07-06 09:41:19 PM  

zipdog: Apos: Greenville: Joshudan: HAMMERTOE: david_gaithersburg: You may wish to sit down for what I am about to tell you. Once you graduate your GPA is meaningless.

What do they call a doctor that finishes at the bottom of his class?

"Doctor".

What do they call a time lord who steals a TARDIS?

"The Doctor"

What do they call a mad scientist with four live mechanical arms who tries to kill Spider-Man?

"Doc"

What does Bugs Bunny call virtually everyone he meets?



"Doc".

Who does Robert Palmer go to when he has a bad case of loving you?

"Doctor, Doctor"


You know what they call you if you kick ass at basketball and your name is Julius Winfield Erving II

"Dr. J"
 
2012-07-06 09:43:51 PM  
So i know he was able to get notes from other classes for his friends... but how did he take the final exams without having signed up for, and thus paying for, those classes?
 
2012-07-06 09:46:00 PM  
In regards to GPAs, you can't universally say that having a high one helps or doesn't help. From my experience, it seems like a very high GPA (3.9 or 4.0) always helps at least somewhat. And if you have a very high GPA in a specific major at a school that is known for that major, you will have companies fighting over you. But if you have an average major at an average school and aren't at the top of your class (like the VAST majority of collage graduates,) having a 3.5 GPA instead of a 2.5 GPA isn't going to make that much of a difference. Companies will be more interested in your practical experience.
 
2012-07-06 09:47:52 PM  

JohnCarter: ReapTheChaos: david_gaithersburg: bow: Is 2.3 really a good GPA in Germany?

Maybe that explains why he graduated in 3 semesters...

.
.
You may wish to sit down for what I am about to tell you. Once you graduate your GPA is meaningless.

That's what people with a low GPA always say. To some degree they're correct, but if you graduate cum laude or above I guarantee you it makes a difference, maybe not 20 years later, but right out of college it sure does.

My son studies engineering and has a 4.0 GPA, he has head hunters after him all the time. These guys don't fly in from half way across the country to recruit students below a 3.0. This summer he's working an internship that he not only earns college credits for but pays him $25 an hour. Not bad for someone who's hasn't even graduated yet.

Well aren't you just the proud helicopter parent

My lawn care guy won't even stop the truck at the estate for a mere $25 an hour....


Proud? You bet! Helicopter parent? Sorry, no.
 
2012-07-06 10:01:10 PM  
Stories like this make me glad to be American. Working full time in order to provide yourself with an education will usually put the kibosh on early graduation.
 
2012-07-06 10:01:53 PM  
Nothing but problems when you finish too quickly...
 
2012-07-06 10:03:00 PM  
"Pohl completed his turbo degree by dividing up all the simultaneous lectures with two friends and then swapping notes. At the same time, he completed an apprenticeship in a bank."

Amateurs. And Muggels.
i50.tinypic.com
 
2012-07-06 10:05:45 PM  
FTFA: But the FOM argues that its fees are the total price for the studies, independent of how long the studies last. But if that it is the case, it remains unclear why they are only calling for a part of the cost for 11 semesters.

Oh, I bet their lawyers figured out exactly how much they could screw this guy for without attracting any attention, and they KNEW they could never get the full amount.

Now, my only question is this: Do they dun students who fail out for the full price regardless? In other words, if some dummy flunks out after three semesters, is he still on the hook for the full 11 semesters, or are they just glad to see him go?
 
2012-07-06 10:09:30 PM  

bow: Is 2.3 really a good GPA in Germany?

Maybe that explains why he graduated in 3 semesters...


Must be metric grades and semesters.
 
2012-07-06 10:13:29 PM  

FriarReb98: What I'm wondering is, how is their system set up


Well the school in question is a private university, so they have a different set up from regular German universities. Where no one would give a rat's ass about this issue.
 
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