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		Reagan-appointed judge Richard Posner defends Roberts: "There is a real deterioration in conservative thinking and I've become less conservative since the Republican Party started becoming goofy" (tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com)		30
		More: Followup, Richard Posner, Ronald Reagan, Justice Antonin Scalia, Stanford Law School, Arizona Immigration, University of Chicago Law School, Thurgood Marshall, Chief Justice John Roberts

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Ed Finnerty		2012-07-06 03:50:39 PM

15 votes:

Dr Dreidel		2012-07-06 04:10:39 PM

7 votes:

I was a liberal-turned-conservative-turned-liberal before it was cool.

Farking Posneurs.

Bf+		2012-07-06 04:39:53 PM

4 votes:

Posner is ditching the Republican party for the same reason Mickey Mouse dumped Minnie.
They're farking goofy.

ox45tallboy		2012-07-06 06:41:13 PM

2 votes:

Sabyen91: I am actually hoping they are merely salt shakers.

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"No, no, yes, no, yes, no, YEEEEEEESSSSSS!"

TrollingForColumbine		2012-07-06 05:54:23 PM

2 votes:

Sabyen91: lordofwar7777: Liberal activist law professor says liberal activist justice who wrote liberal activist opinion upholding overreaching tyrannical liberal law is okay, and the GOP is "goofy."

Now, how is this different from any other day of the week? Why is this news?

What a nice shiny new alt. Does it still have that new alt smell?

GIS for "new alt smell"
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Sabyen91		2012-07-06 05:51:01 PM

2 votes:

lordofwar7777: Liberal activist law professor says liberal activist justice who wrote liberal activist opinion upholding overreaching tyrannical liberal law is okay, and the GOP is "goofy."

Now, how is this different from any other day of the week? Why is this news?

What a nice shiny new alt. Does it still have that new alt smell?

WTF Indeed		2012-07-06 04:25:49 PM

2 votes:

Conservative Scholar used to mean:
upload.wikimedia.org

Now it means:
upload.wikimedia.org

Cyberluddite		2012-07-06 04:14:57 PM

2 votes:

gilgigamesh: Wow.
You guys lost Posner?
Damn. That's got to sting.

No shiat. Posner was always the right-wing poster child of what they thought a "conservative" judge is supposed to be. He has always basically been Ayn Rand in a black robe (though slightly less masculine-looking). If even Posner says the Republicans have gone crazy, then you know they've really gone over the cliff.

gilgigamesh		2012-07-06 04:05:37 PM

2 votes:

Wow.

You guys lost Posner?

Damn. That's got to sting.

shower_in_my_socks		2012-07-06 09:16:17 PM

1 votes:

That Southern Strategy sure is going SWELL for the GOP. You have luminaries like Ted Nugent, Faux News bimbos, and radio talk show lunatics carrying your party's banner now. The John Birch Society has gone mainstream with the Tea Party rebranding. And you're losing what's left of your parties deep thinkers. Who would've thought that pandering to Southern racists fifty years ago could go so wrong, huh?

revrendjim		2012-07-06 07:35:52 PM

1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: Posner has spoken out recently against other conservatives on the court, namely Justice Antonin Scalia. After Scalia's fiery dissent in the Arizona immigration case, in which he took aim at President Obama, Posner wrote in Slate that Scalia was becoming a political actor: "It wouldn't surprise me if Justice Scalia's opinion were quoted in campaign ads."

Scalia is the biggest political hack that's ever donned a Supreme Court robe. He's never met a decision he can't rationalize.

Scalia is a strict constructionist. He will construct whatever argument supports the current conservative agenda.

Sabyen91		2012-07-06 06:06:40 PM

1 votes:

Boudica's War Tampon: I was betting on pepper grinders.

Is that a euphemism? Are we back to torture-dildos?

Boudica's War Tampon		2012-07-06 06:02:36 PM

1 votes:

Sabyen91: Boudica's War Tampon: Sabyen91: TrollingForColumbine: Sabyen91: lordofwar7777: Liberal activist law professor says liberal activist justice who wrote liberal activist opinion upholding overreaching tyrannical liberal law is okay, and the GOP is "goofy."

Now, how is this different from any other day of the week? Why is this news?

What a nice shiny new alt. Does it still have that new alt smell?

GIS for "new alt smell"
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Kinky!

You, sir, are the President of the North American Professional Understaters and Downplayers Association.

/those are downright bestial. do they talk?

I am actually hoping they are merely salt shakers.

I was betting on pepper grinders.

Ed Finnerty		2012-07-06 05:52:14 PM

1 votes:

NateAsbestos: Ed Finnerty: [dtdstudios.com image 519x599]

Great, now I'm laughing like a psychopath at work, and if my coworkers ask why I'd have to explain that it's because a Disney character is about to rape and/or beat a child. Thanks.

Sorry, man. Tell HR I said "Hi".

lordofwar7777		2012-07-06 05:48:32 PM

1 votes:

Liberal activist law professor says liberal activist justice who wrote liberal activist opinion upholding overreaching tyrannical liberal law is okay, and the GOP is "goofy."

Now, how is this different from any other day of the week? Why is this news?

bugontherug		2012-07-06 05:36:57 PM

1 votes:

SkinnyHead: MaudlinMutantMollusk: SkinnyHead: "I've become less conservative since the Republican Party started becoming goofy," Posner said.

How come a judge is letting a political party sway his judicial philosophy like that?

Ask Scalia

Scalia has remained consistent in his judicial philosophy. Posner has just admitted that he's gone liberal in his judicial philosophy in reaction to a political party. Judges aren't supposed to do that.

Nonsense. In Bush v. Gore, Scalia departed from his long held view that the Equal Protection Clause doesn't exist.

deadcrickets		2012-07-06 05:04:02 PM

1 votes:

Corvus: So when are conservatives going to make a stand and say they are not going to support these crazy teatards anymore?

The only way it will change is by voting for Gary Johnson (or Obama) instead of Romney. If they know you are going to vote for them anyways no matter how crazy they are it will never change.

It's going to happen sooner or later, there will be a big split, the question is when.

I've already got a plan to sabotage Romney locally. My area is pure Southern Baptist. Not once in the past 50 years has it gone Democratic or otherwise on any level. I plan to deliver to every mailbox in the area a letter supporting Romney where he talks about his Mormonism and how he feels it's the only true Christianity. The day after I do that I plan to deliver another one with a cd that shows him on video talking about his support of gay rights and him increasing taxes in Taxachusetts. This will all happen within days of the election.

rudemix		2012-07-06 05:02:50 PM

1 votes:

SkinnyHead: MaudlinMutantMollusk: SkinnyHead: "I've become less conservative since the Republican Party started becoming goofy," Posner said.

How come a judge is letting a political party sway his judicial philosophy like that?

Ask Scalia

Scalia has remained consistent in his judicial philosophy. Posner has just admitted that he's gone liberal in his judicial philosophy in reaction to a political party. Judges aren't supposed to do that.

Exactly because the name Judge itself bears no relation to having an opinion about things. Wait, what?

Uzzah		2012-07-06 04:47:08 PM

1 votes:

Ned Stark: Coco LaFemme: You know that comment Reagan made about how he didn't leave the Democratic party, the Democratic party left him? Well, there's a whole lot of folk out there for whom the same statement is true, just replace Democratic with Republican. The problem is, those people are a very, very silent minority, and as such, the whackaloons are the ones getting elected to, and running for, public office.

When was the last true conservative we had in the White House? Eisenhower? I don't remember much of Bush the Elder's term, but was he batshiat insane? I feel like in my lifetime, which is 1982 to the present, there's been moderate Democrats and quasi-fascists....and not much else.

We have a conservative president right now.

This. If I didn't know better, I'd think that the conservatives had deliberately been running the Long Con for the past 30 years:

1. Recruit and embrace emotionally-motivated and vocal demographics -- evangelicals, hardcore libertarians, John Birchers, etc.
2. Use those demographics to pull your party radically -- even nonsensically -- to the right.
3. Denounce those from your party who didn't follow the sharp rightward movement.
4. Expect the liberals to tack rightward ("to the center") to appeal to the moderates and those affected by step 3.
5. Voila! Your adversary is suddenly standing where you were back at prior to step 1.

That's how the GOP's St. Reagan wound up left of the current Democratic administration on many issues.

red5ish		2012-07-06 04:43:06 PM

1 votes:

heap: red5ish: Serious Black: Good point. I need to stop using the word "conservative" and start exclusively calling them reactionary or regressive. Not sure which is the better term.

Lunatic fringe.

fringe kinda implies they aren't running one of two major political parties.

lunatic minge, on the other hand...

Lunatic minge evokes an entirely different image. But I like the way you think.

The lunatic fringe is "running" the Republican party much like a termite infestation makes policy decisions for wooden structures.

Serious Black		2012-07-06 04:37:09 PM

1 votes:

heap: red5ish: Serious Black: Good point. I need to stop using the word "conservative" and start exclusively calling them reactionary or regressive. Not sure which is the better term.

Lunatic fringe.

fringe kinda implies they aren't running one of two major political parties.

lunatic minge, on the other hand...

That doesn't work; everyone knows the party is crawling with self-loathing homophobes who hate having to look at, let alone touch, a vagina just to keep up appearances.

gilgigamesh		2012-07-06 04:36:54 PM

1 votes:

red5ish: Serious Black: Good point. I need to stop using the word "conservative" and start exclusively calling them reactionary or regressive. Not sure which is the better term.

Lunatic fringe.

I know you're out there.

gilgigamesh		2012-07-06 04:25:29 PM

1 votes:

Cyberluddite: gilgigamesh: Wow.
You guys lost Posner?
Damn. That's got to sting.

No shiat. Posner was always the right-wing poster child of what they thought a "conservative" judge is supposed to be. He has always basically been Ayn Rand in a black robe (though slightly less masculine-looking). If even Posner says the Republicans have gone crazy, then you know they've really gone over the cliff.

I used to read his opinions and essays back in college and law school for the outrage factor. I rarely if ever agreed with him, but at least he wasn't certifiably looney tunes. I could chalk up my difference of opinion with Posner to having a different value system than him.

You know, as opposed to existing in a different reality. The reality I live in -- the one where the president is a center-right friend to the corporate and banking lobbies, was born in the United States, and has no plans to execute millions of senior citizens through sinister death panels -- is the same reality shared by Posner, and a wholly different reality than that of his former conservative allies.

Anyway, welcome, Dick! Take a seat. As an added bonus I think you'll find the beer is better on our side.

Cyberluddite		2012-07-06 04:20:48 PM

1 votes:

maudibjr: I lean toward some of the more basic conservative tenants

What "conservative tenants" may look like:

www.powersiteblog.com

(The word you're searching for is "tenets," BTW.)

Mr_Fabulous		2012-07-06 04:16:04 PM

1 votes:

Serious Black: Good point. I need to stop using the word "conservative" and start exclusively calling them reactionary or regressive. Not sure which is the better term.

"Floor-humping mongoloid" works fine for me.

maudibjr		2012-07-06 04:14:32 PM

1 votes:

Pretty much mirrors my thoughts.

I lean toward some of the more basic conservative tenants, especially fiscal, but man, many of today's 'conservatives' are knuckle dragging idiots. And there so farking loud and prissy.