B-Fisch should be careful what he wishes for. If atheists had to attend the local megachurch they'd launch into Bible study classes with gusto, pointing out contradictions and inconsistencies, asking about changes in textual history, discussing the ways in which God acts like a monstrous, murderous, insane person throughout the book, etc. They'd be paying us to leave eventually.

Sweet farking Jesus.

I know we joke about the American Taliban, but this is literally an Islamic concept: Link

Jizya is a tax that non-Muslims in a Muslim state pay. There are a few rationales, but the main is that on a Muslim state, Muslims are already tithing which is essentially a tax since the religion is the state. Jizya is a non-muslim's contribution to the state for both charity and the protection the government provides.

It's telling that a centuries old Muslim concept of taxation is more coherent than a modern Evangelical one.

I imagine most Christians, hearing this guy say this crap, feel the same way I do when I hear about some atheist guy trying to keep a local business from giving a church-bulletin discount.

/people think they're so important
//guess what

Lionel Mandrake: Q: What's the best thing about a randomjsa post?

A: You know you won't be seeing him in that thread again.

If you guys wouldn't quote him, I wouldn't see him at all.

The two would be comparable provided:

1) Churches were mandated by the government to assist anyone seeking their help
2) Churches charged for their services
3) The services provided by churches were objectively necessary and effective
4) Taxpayer money would cover any costs that people were unable to cover themselves

DammitIForgotMyLogin: StreetlightInTheGhetto: (Mom raised us Catholic in the social justice sense)

Excuse me, it's going to take me quite a while to stop laughing at the ridiculousness of that concept.

It happens.

ArgusRun: Sweet farking Jesus.

I know we joke about the American Taliban, but this is literally an Islamic concept: Link

Jizya is a tax that non-Muslims in a Muslim state pay. There are a few rationales, but the main is that on a Muslim state, Muslims are already tithing which is essentially a tax since the religion is the state. Jizya is a non-muslim's contribution to the state for both charity and the protection the government provides.

It's telling that a centuries old Muslim concept of taxation is more coherent than a modern Evangelical one.


The article on Tolerance Tax that the one you posted links to is more interesting. Basically it was a tax on the Jews in the Holy Roman Empire to be Jewish and allowed to stay. If you're not familiar with where the HRE used to be just take a wild guess at it. Guessed yet? Okay, yes you are correct, its exactly where you thought it was.

"I don't know about you, but I have just about had it with these farking church people. You know what I say we should do with these churches? Tax them! If they're so interested in politics and government and public policy let them pay their farking admission price like everyone else!" -George Carlin

BSABSVR: Diogenes: karnal: Why do people like this even get air time?

That's kind of where I was going. This guy is a spokesman. And as far as I can tell he's only preaching to the converted. What is his purpose other than to make extreme and outlandish statements? And if that's all he does, what does that accomplish?

The Evangelical base requires redder and redder meat to feed the outrage. He's not there to convert, or convince; he's there to keep the anger stoked.

At the rate they are going they will have to start tearing flesh off of a living creature they are in the process of both coverting to Christianity and raping anally at the same time.

Marquis DeSade would be proud!

Oh, so you want to tax religion, or lack of it?

Time to pay up, assholes. You owe US Taxpayers about 236 years worth of back taxes, plus interest.

Keep religion the fark out of politics.

/not an atheist
//might become one if this BS keeps up

Diogenes: karnal: Why do people like this even get air time?

That's kind of where I was going. This guy is a spokesman. And as far as I can tell he's only preaching to the converted. What is his purpose other than to make extreme and outlandish statements? And if that's all he does, what does that accomplish?

The Evangelical base requires redder and redder meat to feed the outrage. He's not there to convert, or convince; he's there to keep the anger stoked.

gilgigamesh: Each one of these retarded "analogies" gets more short bus than the last. I thought they topped it with the "make every lib buy a gun for self defense or tax them" idea, but I was wrong. This is dumber.


There used to be a rebate for a small business to buy an SUV, so in effect everyone who didn't buy an SUV was taxed.

I am also being taxed for not having children.

Luckily I have a mortgage, so I don't have to pay the not-paying-mortgage-interest tax.

Furthermore, charitable giving is tax deductible, so as an athiest I am already getting the no-tithe tax.

I already pay a tax for being an atheist -- I help subsidize everyone's tax deductions they receive from the donations they make to religious institutions.

Fark this guy.

Seriously, fark him.

Fark him, his whore of a mother, and his molesting father.

It honestly seems like sarcasm to me. He knows forcing people to go to church is illegal, and he thinks that forcing people to get health insurance is illegal as well, so in his mind the two are comparable.

TsukasaK: Somehow I get the feeling that immediately after arriving in 'hell' you would regret this decision.

Thor doesn't know what this 'hell' is. Hel he knows. Hell, not so much.

Barricaded Gunman: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Since they don't pay taxes, I'd say we already subsidize religion with taxpayer money

Let's not water this down unnecessarily.

Even more interesting is the lack of stomach of the IRS to tax nominally "religious" institutions which behave in an overtly political fashion.

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Since they don't pay taxes, I'd say we already subsidize religion with taxpayer money

Let's not water this down unnecessarily.

I grew up under the Jewish faith, I actually liked the Temple. Mine was not about being religious, it was about being a good person first, and to remember our shared heritage. Very little hellfire, brimstone, or hatred of "them."

DammitIForgotMyLogin: Sabyen91: It happens.

Yeah, it happens because quite a lot of Nuns are quite decent people, who've decided to treat people well and have actually considered some of the stuff that Jesus taught.

It happens in spite of what the Catholic church teaches them, not because of it.

Agreed. The Vatican coming down on them for following the teachings of Jesus is really quite telling.

How about we yank your non-profit status for churches and what not instead, since you idiots won't stay out of politics?

Well, you'd certainly see a lot of member registration for "Jedi" and "Pastafarianism" in the near future. Blessed be His noodly appendages.

mongbiohazard: karnal: Why do people like this even get air time?

they take money that people mindlessly donate to buy air time so they can continue to propagate their lies.

Aarontology: Can I count watching football on Sundays to be attending mass if it's in praise of Breesus?

Keep your Breesus. I will stick with the real thing.



Also, praise Lombardi.

ArgusRun: Sweet farking Jesus.

I know we joke about the American Taliban, but this is literally an Islamic concept: Link

Jizya is a tax that non-Muslims in a Muslim state pay. There are a few rationales, but the main is that on a Muslim state, Muslims are already tithing which is essentially a tax since the religion is the state. Jizya is a non-muslim's contribution to the state for both charity and the protection the government provides.

It's telling that a centuries old Muslim concept of taxation is more coherent than a modern Evangelical one.

Act of Uniformity (1558) - I don't think Muslims were running Anglican theology in England under E1

Osomatic: I imagine most Christians, hearing this guy say this crap, feel the same way I do when I hear about some atheist guy trying to keep a local business from giving a church-bulletin discount.

Probably.

/raised by an awesome atheist dad
//didn't know until I asked him as a teen (figured agnostic). He let my brother and I figure stuff out on our own (Mom raised us Catholic in the social justice sense) but raised us to be well read and questioning
///thanks Dad
////f--k off AFA

Why is it that any group with the word "Family" in the name has to be made up of completely horrible people?

how about no, but what we can do is to start taxing religious organizations just as any other organizations are taxed.

mainstreet62: Oh, so you want to tax religion, or lack of it?

Time to pay up, assholes. You owe US Taxpayers about 236 years worth of back taxes, plus interest.

Keep religion the fark out of politics.

/not an atheist
//might become one if this BS keeps up

We have cookies.

That's why I started the "First Holy Church of Not Giving a Flying Fark".

Meetings are in my basement.

May be confused with certain aspects of Rastafarian culture.

ArgusRun: Sweet farking Jesus.

I know we joke about the American Taliban, but this is literally an Islamic concept: Link

Jizya is a tax that non-Muslims in a Muslim state pay. There are a few rationales, but the main is that on a Muslim state, Muslims are already tithing which is essentially a tax since the religion is the state. Jizya is a non-muslim's contribution to the state for both charity and the protection the government provides.

It's telling that a centuries old Muslim concept of taxation is more coherent than a modern Evangelical one.

Damn! Who knew that Islamic Sharia law was infecting not just our secular government, but our Christian theocratic governments too? Is nobody safe from the terrorists anymore?

lawboy87: Anyone want to bet that this guy is a regular at the bus depot's men's room (Stall #3)?


Came in to say this. How long before his gay lover of 11 years comes out to talk about their meth-fueled man-love sessions.

thornhill: I already pay a tax for being an atheist -- I help subsidize everyone's tax deductions they receive from the donations they make to religious institutions.

Same here. In fact, I think we should make churches pay for their 'donations' because it's quite a scam they have going.

I know what I want to say, but I don't feel like trying to explain what I said to a couple of federal officials who have better things to do.

Notice how before the court ruling on health care, the cons. were all "let's be nice "when" the libs. lose". They were all certain they were going to "win" (translated-the poor, and middle class lose...again). But wait: Now , they are all, "you cheated", and "you guys suck". It's like High School all over again, only I'm not the geek who gets his head stuck in the trash can. Kind of a cool feeling, however; I'm not stupid enough to get used to it.

He's not serious. He's just trollin'.

deadcrickets: Did you know you have to pay a tax for being atheist in the middle east as well? So glad the American Family Association is implementing Sharia law!

sarcasm
But this is Christian Sharia law, which makes it ok. After all it's what the founding fathers and god intended.
/sarcasm

Anyone want to bet that this guy is a regular at the bus depot's men's room (Stall #3)?

Osomatic: I imagine most Christians, hearing this guy say this crap, feel the same way I do when I hear about some atheist guy trying to keep a local business from giving a church-bulletin discount.

The article did not state as much, so I am now curious; please identify the nationally known and politically influential organization of which Mr. John Wolff is a public spokesman.

#11: Thou shall not derp

rudemix: Go and die you farking shriv!! No one but you and a few desparate others want to live in the regressive, stupid, ugly world you would like to be in. You are archaic, ill informed and a pox on forward thinking and progress. Seriously, kill yourself you douchebag!

this guy is a confirmed douchecanoe, but you really should try the decaffeinated crystal meth.

Go and die you farking shriv!! No one but you and a few desparate others want to live in the regressive, stupid, ugly world you would like to be in. You are archaic, ill informed and a pox on forward thinking and progress. Seriously, kill yourself you douchebag!

Total idiot says something stupid