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(Air & Space Magazine)   Now that they're retired from piloting spacecraft, astronauts say they're finding joy in piloting small personal aircraft again. Much in the same way that retired NASCAR drivers get a big kick out of riding mopeds   (airspacemag.com) divider line 49
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2012-07-06 12:44:17 PM  
Most NASCAR drivers- current and retired- are addicted to racing in general.

Tony Stewart still races small, local dirt tracks. Hell, he even owns one.

Ask any racer... they'll race *anything* they can get their hands on.
 
2012-07-06 12:50:53 PM  
Flying anything is awesome. Little light aircraft are very fun, you can fly low, see stuff you just don't see in a big commercial airliner.
 
2012-07-06 12:52:45 PM  
...except this moped can go 140 mph.
 
2012-07-06 12:54:57 PM  
Could be becuase flying a small aircraft involves actual piloting, while flying the space shuttle involves telling the flight computer what you'd like to do and then letting it handle the piloting.
 
2012-07-06 12:56:04 PM  
This also mirrors how civilization will have to eventually go back to a lower energy lifestyle.
 
2012-07-06 01:00:14 PM  
Unlikely? Subby doesn't know any pilots. Talk to airline pilots and you'll meet people who miss flying VFR just for the fun of it. Astronauts are no different.
 
2012-07-06 01:02:32 PM  
Most astronauts were military pilots of some sort. I remember seeing in old aviation magazines that you (well, millionaires) could buy kits for like A4 jets (pic) or F5 jets. How awesome would that be? That's what I'd do, retire and fly fighter jets all over Vermont. Fark cessnas (or as my boss calls them, doctor killers, 'cause that's who owns and flies them)

static.stuff.co.nz
 
2012-07-06 01:04:31 PM  
 
2012-07-06 01:21:27 PM  
My dad is a retired fighter pilot, occasionally rents a Cessna or similar type of prop plane to head up into the wild blue younder. One time, I foolishly accepted his invitation to go flying with him. A drunk frat boy in a rental car would have been shamed by the crazy antics the old man pulled off in that plane. When we finally landed, I crawled out of that plane, vowing to never fly with him again.
Yeah, CSB my ass, next time you can fly with him....
 
2012-07-06 01:24:07 PM  
I won't name names, but a former NASCAR driver much better known for being a multi time champion in a completely different series has had several pit incidents involving ATV's including a couple of injured spectators
 
2012-07-06 01:31:41 PM  
Mopeds are like fat girls; they are fun to ride but don't let your friends see you doing it.
 
2012-07-06 01:34:03 PM  

S.A.S.Q.U.A.T.C.H.: I remember seeing in old aviation magazines that you (well, millionaires) could buy kits for like A4 jets (pic) or F5 jets.


There is a private company here locally that has a couple of small squadrons of older fighters. A-4, L-39, F-21 Kfir, Hawker Hunter.

They contract with the Navy and USAF to fly DACT missions.

/all you need is cubic money.
 
2012-07-06 01:41:26 PM  
When you fly big stuff it's all numbers and procedures, and you're busy staying ahead of the airplane to really savor the feeling. Little airplanes let you relax and enjoy the freedom of flight.

/really likes puttering around in a J-3 Cub
 
2012-07-06 01:43:57 PM  

dallylamma: Could be becuase flying a small aircraft involves actual piloting, while flying the space shuttle involves telling the flight computer what you'd like to do and then letting it handle the piloting.


I can't find any reference, but I'm pretty sure the space shuttle has to be manually landed. Id be willing to bet there are other manual maneuvers they do on a regular basis.
 
2012-07-06 01:50:52 PM  

Arkanaut: ...except this moped can go 140 mph.


But not 17 times the speed of light.... *sniff*.
 
2012-07-06 01:51:46 PM  

MindStalker: dallylamma: Could be becuase flying a small aircraft involves actual piloting, while flying the space shuttle involves telling the flight computer what you'd like to do and then letting it handle the piloting.

I can't find any reference, but I'm pretty sure the space shuttle has to be manually landed. Id be willing to bet there are other manual maneuvers they do on a regular basis.


Turns out we're both kinda right...

Almost the entire Space Shuttle re-entry procedure, except for lowering the landing gear and deploying the air data probes, were normally performed under computer control. However, the re-entry could be flown entirely manually if an emergency arose. The approach and landing phase could be controlled by the autopilot, but was usually hand flown.

 
2012-07-06 01:52:02 PM  

MindStalker: I can't find any reference, but I'm pretty sure the space shuttle has to be manually landed.


The only true manual op on the shuttle landing was deploying the landing gear. Not because they didn't know how to automate it, but because deploying the gear was a one shot thing.
It had to be done at the right time, because there was no way to retract it. There was no 'gear up' function.

If it accidentally deployed in orbit, scratch one shuttle.
If it deployed too early in the landing sequence, they might well break off, and again, scratch one shuttle.
 
2012-07-06 01:53:55 PM  
Good to see some love for the underappreciated Tiger. Just got into a 4-way partnership for an '03 Tiger and it's absolutely amazing. Fast, cheap & simple, and a blast to fly. I had no idea that so many astronauts flew the various incarnations of the Tiger, so that's a bonus.
 
2012-07-06 01:58:13 PM  
My old boss was a Vietnam-era F4 pilot, and flew many combat missions....today, he's happy as a clam to take his ultralight up for some 'real' flying. He also flys a gyrocopter. One cool dude.
 
2012-07-06 01:59:04 PM  

Click Click D'oh: I can think of some small personal aircraft that even an astronaut might find fun to fly...


f.pmay.free.fr

CriCri, designed in the 70's. You can't get smaller than that. It's like someone make an RC plane slightly larger and climbed aboard.
 
2012-07-06 02:00:25 PM  
Rip Dashrock 2012-07-06 01:21:27 PM

My dad is a retired fighter pilot, occasionally rents a Cessna or similar type of prop plane to head up into the wild blue younder. One time, I foolishly accepted his invitation to go flying with him. A drunk frat boy in a rental car would have been shamed by the crazy antics the old man pulled off in that plane. When we finally landed, I crawled out of that plane, vowing to never fly with him again.
Yeah, CSB my ass, next time you can fly with him....


Dudewuss.

Can I borrow your dad?

I'd give my eyeteeth to crawl barfing out of a plane ride like that.
 
2012-07-06 02:07:00 PM  
Good to see some love for the underappreciated Tiger. Just got into a 4-way partnership for an '03 Tiger and it's absolutely amazing. Fast, cheap & simple, and a blast to fly. I had no idea that so many astronauts flew the various incarnations of the Tiger, so that's a bonus.

Don't go too slow man. Them Tigers (and the AA-1 Yankee before it) have some wicked stall characteristics, like dropping the bottom out with like, no, warning....

/I think they added a rumble strip on the leading edges...
 
2012-07-06 02:12:35 PM  
Love the J-3 Cub. Go up in the air and watch the big-rigs drive by.
 
2012-07-06 02:18:44 PM  
I forget who it was, said the Cub flies just barely fast enough to kill you.
 
2012-07-06 02:19:02 PM  

Oznog: Click Click D'oh: I can think of some small personal aircraft that even an astronaut might find fun to fly...

[f.pmay.free.fr image 640x466]

CriCri, designed in the 70's. You can't get smaller than that. It's like someone make an RC plane slightly larger and climbed aboard.


They actual built a jet version of the CriCri Link
 
2012-07-06 02:19:28 PM  
Gordo Cooper was taking shots at other Mercury and Gemini astronauts flying skills until the day he died. Oh yeah, he kept flying until then. There's a group of pilots who they don't care what it is, they want to fly it. Which is probably why they had John Glenn go on the Shuttle, cause he's the only one of the old time astronauts who hadn't piloted a plane in ages and wouldn't insist on being in one of the front two seats. Cooper, Schira et al, they wouldn't get on the shuttle unless they could have their hand on the stick. Which actually would've been awesome. I always thought an all old timers mission would be awesome, if just for the arguments over who gets to be pilot and who gets to be commander. Cause except for Glenn, none of them would just let someone else do it, each one would insist on doing it himself.
 
2012-07-06 02:22:25 PM  

Click Click D'oh: I can think of some small personal aircraft that even an astronaut might find fun to fly...


I think they'd much prefer this

www.aerospaceweb.org

faster, far quicker and it's a jet.
 
2012-07-06 02:23:23 PM  

WhyteRaven74: Gordo Cooper was taking shots at other Mercury and Gemini astronauts flying skills until the day he died. Oh yeah, he kept flying until then. There's a group of pilots who they don't care what it is, they want to fly it. Which is probably why they had John Glenn go on the Shuttle, cause he's the only one of the old time astronauts who hadn't piloted a plane in ages and wouldn't insist on being in one of the front two seats. Cooper, Schira et al, they wouldn't get on the shuttle unless they could have their hand on the stick. Which actually would've been awesome. I always thought an all old timers mission would be awesome, if just for the arguments over who gets to be pilot and who gets to be commander. Cause except for Glenn, none of them would just let someone else do it, each one would insist on doing it himself.



John Glen just recently sold his Beech Baron
 
2012-07-06 02:29:17 PM  
Well, making right hand turns is a new experience for them.
 
2012-07-06 02:40:35 PM  

WhyteRaven74:

I think they'd much prefer this



faster, far quicker and it's a jet.


Well, if speed is your thing instead of acrobatic potential, there are other private ownership options.
 
2012-07-06 02:46:06 PM  
You ever flown a UFO? Afterwards, sex is trite.

xfphotos.fredfarm.com
 
2012-07-06 02:50:47 PM  

sdd2000: WhyteRaven74: Gordo Cooper was taking shots at other Mercury and Gemini astronauts flying skills until the day he died. Oh yeah, he kept flying until then. There's a group of pilots who they don't care what it is, they want to fly it. Which is probably why they had John Glenn go on the Shuttle, cause he's the only one of the old time astronauts who hadn't piloted a plane in ages and wouldn't insist on being in one of the front two seats. Cooper, Schira et al, they wouldn't get on the shuttle unless they could have their hand on the stick. Which actually would've been awesome. I always thought an all old timers mission would be awesome, if just for the arguments over who gets to be pilot and who gets to be commander. Cause except for Glenn, none of them would just let someone else do it, each one would insist on doing it himself.


John Glen just recently sold his Beech Baron


Cooper also told people about the little martians on mars up in the caves that NASA was keeping secret. He was a UFO conspiracy guy even while still at NASA. He was kind of forced out of the program..........I wonder why.

Glenn stopped flying when he turned 90. Even Yeager cracked up a plane going off the runway on landing a few years ago. Age is not forgiving.
 
2012-07-06 02:59:33 PM  
Glen's stated reason for giving up flying the Baron was that climbing into the plane was difficult for him and almost impossible for Annie. But yes age in unforgiving. I think even Bob Hoover has given up flying, but he still knows more than most anyone flying. Link
 
2012-07-06 03:39:56 PM  
Headline was unnecessarily troll-y. NASA is actually hiring new astronauts right now. They will have several NEW vehicles coming on line to master.

Get this thru your melon:

No more shuttle flights does NOT equal no more US manned spaceflights or piloting jobs for astronauts. The Shuttles were retired, not US manned space.
 
2012-07-06 03:43:43 PM  
I would like a moped when I visit my folks at the beach it would be easier to get around in the summer. But dad would probably steal it.
 
2012-07-06 03:58:34 PM  

sdd2000: Glen's stated reason for giving up flying the Baron was that climbing into the plane was difficult for him and almost impossible for Annie. But yes age in unforgiving. I think even Bob Hoover has given up flying, but he still knows more than most anyone flying. Link


Hoover did not voluntarily give up flying. Link He flew with me in my Aero Commander in 1999. The guy has the Midas touch flying a Commander.
 
2012-07-06 04:16:43 PM  
My Dad was a former Navy Pilot who *loved* his (and Grampa's, they co -owned it) Cessna sea plane.

I think just the news the cardiologist gave him that he was grounded was a direct cause leading to his death. He was never the same after that.
 
2012-07-06 04:39:47 PM  

KiplingKat872: My Dad was a former Navy Pilot who *loved* his (and Grampa's, they co -owned it) Cessna sea plane.

I think just the news the cardiologist gave him that he was grounded was a direct cause leading to his death. He was never the same after that.


Stories about former military pilots who never flew again after leaving the service always baffled me. You'd think that after all the training and hazardous duty they'd want to fly on their own terms in their civilian lives.
 
2012-07-06 04:40:37 PM  
Wow, astronauts enjoy flying airplanes. That certainly is "unlikely", submitard.
 
2012-07-06 04:50:51 PM  

dallylamma: Stories about former military pilots who never flew again after leaving the service always baffled me. You'd think that after all the training and hazardous duty they'd want to fly on their own terms in their civilian lives.


The only way I can understand it is to use the analogy that I love to cook, but when I worked as a professional chef, I started hating cooking. You could not get me in the kitchen at home for love nor money. It was years after a I quit that I started liking cooking again.

For some people, the hobby they enjoy can become the job they hate which trashes the enjoyment of the activity.

That's the way I see it, anyway.
 
2012-07-06 04:51:02 PM  

MFAWG: I won't name names, but a former NASCAR driver much better known for being a multi time champion in a completely different series has had several pit incidents involving ATV's including a couple of injured spectators


Different skill set, I'd imagine.

Back when I was learning to fly taildraggers, I helped out at a glider-towing outfit. We got the occasional loud-mouth, high-time, big-hat major airline pilot in for a flight.

Funny how quiet they were when we were pulling them and the plane out of a cranberry bog after they missed their ONE shot at landing...
 
2012-07-06 04:51:42 PM  

wineskigolf: sdd2000: Glen's stated reason for giving up flying the Baron was that climbing into the plane was difficult for him and almost impossible for Annie. But yes age in unforgiving. I think even Bob Hoover has given up flying, but he still knows more than most anyone flying. Link

Hoover did not voluntarily give up flying. Link He flew with me in my Aero Commander in 1999. The guy has the Midas touch flying a Commander.


The revocation from the link was lifted, he flew up till recently and has now quit flying from what I understand. And yes that man knew how to fly. Find the youtube video of him pouring the tea while in a loop to see something amazing.
 
2012-07-06 04:55:23 PM  
Excuse me it was while rolling the airplane not looping it.
 
2012-07-06 04:55:35 PM  

Mensan: Unlikely? Subby doesn't know any pilots. Talk to airline pilots and you'll meet people who miss flying VFR just for the fun of it. Astronauts are no different.


Subby doesn't know jack about piloting in general. Like Barru Schiff said: "Asking someone why they love to fly is like asking someone why they love Picasso. The beauty is that you can't really describe it. Flying takes you into another dimension, literally."

So anyone that's completed their solo flight in a plane knows that feeling. Anyone that's had a DPE sign their paperwork saying they've earned a certificate knows that there are few greater joys. Flying alone in a single engine plane is something you can't describe to someone that hasn't done it themselves.

I still love taking my (jointly) owned M20J up and just flying, anywhere.
 
2012-07-06 06:00:01 PM  
Best Headline of the day!

/that I read
 
2012-07-06 07:05:51 PM  
Any Pie Left 2012-07-06 03:39:56 PM

Headline was unnecessarily troll-y. NASA is actually hiring new astronauts right now. They will have several NEW vehicles coming on line to master.

Get this thru your melon:

No more shuttle flights does NOT equal no more US manned spaceflights or piloting jobs for astronauts. The Shuttles were retired,
not US manned space.



[squeals happily for pie]
 
2012-07-06 10:34:03 PM  

mark12A: Good to see some love for the underappreciated Tiger. Just got into a 4-way partnership for an '03 Tiger and it's absolutely amazing. Fast, cheap & simple, and a blast to fly. I had no idea that so many astronauts flew the various incarnations of the Tiger, so that's a bonus.

Don't go too slow man. Them Tigers (and the AA-1 Yankee before it) have some wicked stall characteristics, like dropping the bottom out with like, no, warning....

/I think they added a rumble strip on the leading edges...


Mine is a Tiger Aircraft version... An AG-5B. Stalls are totally benign, though there's less of an obvious break than on a 172. No Idea how it would behave in a spin, nor am I allowed to find out...
 
2012-07-07 10:27:49 AM  
My wife was nearly ran down by Mario Andretti on a scooter.
I found it strange that she could recognize him so easily....

/csb...
 
2012-07-09 09:31:02 AM  
Ok, it's too freakin cool that one of 'em is flying a restored P-51 and another has a share in a Stearman. That's the kind of thing I imagine an astronaut kicking around in, like a big block late '60s Corvette or a Shelby Mustang GT500.

Of course, what is kind of interesting is that NASA pays so little that almost all of these guys are going halfsies at best on a plane. Well, except for the one guy in the gated aviation community in Texas and the guy who has his own airplane museum. But I believe that those two were both vintage astronauts - not shuttle guys.
 
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