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(Washington Post)   At this point in 1980, Jimmy Carter was on the path to oblivion but didn't know it. Barack Obama may share Carter's fate if he doesn't change course soon   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 143
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2012-07-06 10:35:53 AM  
At this time in 1980, George Bush senior was over in Iran cutting a deal with the Ayatollah to release the hostages in return for a nice big shipment of weapons.

I don't think Republicans have a similar deal coming up this time. Who knows though. It was the "October Surprise" after all.
 
2012-07-06 10:38:39 AM  
I never really thought Freeper Friday was a real thing, but looking at the going green headlines today, I must agree it is real.
 
2012-07-06 10:49:16 AM  

Generation_D: At this time in 1980, George Bush senior was over in Iran cutting a deal with the Ayatollah to release the hostages in return for a nice big shipment of weapons.


the fact that reagan negotiated with terrorists to hold americans hostage long enough for him to win the election is one of the most egregiously anti-american acts by an american politician ever. worse than eric cantor's pledge to defend israel against america while visiting bibi netanyahu.
 
2012-07-06 10:53:53 AM  
It is fitting that we find similarities between Obama and Carter. Both are destined to go down in history as 2 of the worst presidents in the history of the United States.
 
2012-07-06 10:55:29 AM  

AdolfOliverPanties: I never really thought Freeper Friday was a real thing, but looking at the going green headlines today, I must agree it is real.


Believe it, live it, love it.

Or quit clicking the articles, as the whole reason Freep friday exists is because it works, page counts and results are shown.

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2012-07-06 10:59:33 AM  
In this week's episode of "God, how I hope Barack Obama is Jimmy Carter instead of Ronald Reagan"
 
2012-07-06 11:05:45 AM  

FlashHarry: Generation_D: At this time in 1980, George Bush senior was over in Iran cutting a deal with the Ayatollah to release the hostages in return for a nice big shipment of weapons.

the fact that reagan negotiated with terrorists to hold americans hostage long enough for him to win the election is one of the most egregiously anti-american acts by an american politician ever. worse than eric cantor's pledge to defend israel against america while visiting bibi netanyahu.


There have been some fairly curious acts by well connected individuals. I like how the right goes batsh*t insane over the trumped-up 'fast and furious' arms thing, which sounds like bureaucratic screw up more than anything so far, but manages to completely ignore things like the existence of gitmo or how it was allowed to come into existence, or what legal hoops had to be created to justify torture, or the ongoing lack of investigations around Cheney's various doings early after 9/11.

Republicans selling off American principles for profit is a long running theme, all the way back to this was the military-industrial complex Eisenhauer warned about.

They're so deeply woven into the fabric of American life that I really have given up any hope seeing them be removed or prosecuted in my lifetime. Vietnam/Watergate was a blip anomaly, and laws came into being shortly after (forbidding reporters from covering the war, making FOIA requests more difficult, on up to Citizens United just recently) .. the fix is in, the good guys lost.

Hunter Thompson seemed to have the best view of things, he'd been in on watching America decline since the 1970s, the America we were brought up with believing in, long gone now. Any wonder the sons and daughters of those are all about promoting an America that gives them handouts and bailouts and tax cuts, but screws everyone else?

We can't even build a highway any more, or a bridge, or a solar wind farm without some sort of politics involved.
 
2012-07-06 11:06:46 AM  
Oh, yay. Looks like we've circled around to the Jimmy Carter trope again.
 
2012-07-06 11:11:47 AM  
Anyone who thinks Jimmy Carter was a terrible president is an anti-Semite since they're basically saying he should have let Israel be destroyed by the Soviet and Arab armies.
 
2012-07-06 11:18:46 AM  

Aarontology: Anyone who thinks Jimmy Carter was a terrible president is an anti-Semite since they're basically saying he should have let Israel be destroyed by the Soviet and Arab armies.


Carter tried his damndest, and got snowed under by history. And the whole traitorous arms for hostages deal. Carter tried to govern with his faith, and got assaulted by cynical cruel people on all sides; the Teddy Kennedy idiots on one side, and the Reagan criminals on the other. He had no chance.
 
2012-07-06 11:26:21 AM  

BillCo: It is fitting that we find similarities between Obama and Carter. Both are destined to go down in history as 2 of the worst presidents in the history of the United States.


Does it physically hurt to suck so much?
 
2012-07-06 11:34:46 AM  
The Washington Post sounds concerned.
 
2012-07-06 11:38:02 AM  
Obama is an ineffective empty suit today, after a week as an over-controlling President trying to shove his thick, veiny health care reform down our throats.
 
2012-07-06 11:38:13 AM  
Poop
 
2012-07-06 11:38:52 AM  
Carter knew it. He was challenged by his own party. When else has that ever happened? It would be like Harry Reid saying, "Obama's a stooge. I'm running."
He really was an outsider, and Washington chewed him up and spit him out.
 
2012-07-06 11:38:55 AM  
I thought Obama was Rutherford B. Hayes?
 
2012-07-06 11:39:29 AM  
Jimmy Carter was going up against a very personable opponent.

Ergo...Obama's not going to be another Jimmy Carter.
 
2012-07-06 11:40:12 AM  
What October Surprise?
 
2012-07-06 11:40:49 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: The Washington Post sounds concerned.

 
2012-07-06 11:41:03 AM  

Generation_D: FlashHarry: Generation_D: At this time in 1980, George Bush senior was over in Iran cutting a deal with the Ayatollah to release the hostages in return for a nice big shipment of weapons.

the fact that reagan negotiated with terrorists to hold americans hostage long enough for him to win the election is one of the most egregiously anti-american acts by an american politician ever. worse than eric cantor's pledge to defend israel against america while visiting bibi netanyahu.

There have been some fairly curious acts by well connected individuals. I like how the right goes batsh*t insane over the trumped-up 'fast and furious' arms thing, which sounds like bureaucratic screw up more than anything so far, but manages to completely ignore things like the existence of gitmo or how it was allowed to come into existence, or what legal hoops had to be created to justify torture, or the ongoing lack of investigations around Cheney's various doings early after 9/11.

Republicans selling off American principles for profit is a long running theme, all the way back to this was the military-industrial complex Eisenhauer warned about.

They're so deeply woven into the fabric of American life that I really have given up any hope seeing them be removed or prosecuted in my lifetime. Vietnam/Watergate was a blip anomaly, and laws came into being shortly after (forbidding reporters from covering the war, making FOIA requests more difficult, on up to Citizens United just recently) .. the fix is in, the good guys lost.

Hunter Thompson seemed to have the best view of things, he'd been in on watching America decline since the 1970s, the America we were brought up with believing in, long gone now. Any wonder the sons and daughters of those are all about promoting an America that gives them handouts and bailouts and tax cuts, but screws everyone else?

We can't even build a highway any more, or a bridge, or a solar wind farm without some sort of politics involved.


Word. See: Glenn Greenwald on this topic as well.
 
2012-07-06 11:42:35 AM  
Did any of you jackasses actually read the article? Jon Rauch isn't exactly an Obama concern troll, and his proposal is a goddamn smart one IMO.
 
2012-07-06 11:45:14 AM  
Look, we needed someone to keep the lights on while Watergate blew over. Then we got the president of the screen actor's guild to talk about how unions are terrible and the people ate it up. We can't have a Republican clean sweep for half a century because the tend to screw things up so terribly that the public needs to break up the static with a change of pace. And then blame that guy because everything sucks.
 
2012-07-06 11:46:00 AM  

BillCo: It is fitting that we find similarities between Obama and Carter. Both are destined to go down in history as 2 of the worst presidents in the history of the United States.


I just want you to take a good long look at Mitt Romney and say to yourself, "There he is. The next Ronald Reagan. Let's meditate upon his wisdom: Lemon. Wet. Good."

/if you can't do this without sobbing uncontrollably, I'll understand
 
2012-07-06 11:46:09 AM  

Lando Lincoln: Jimmy Carter was going up against a very personable opponent.

Ergo...Obama's not going to be another Jimmy Carter.


If it wasn't a re-election you could compare it to Carter vs. Ford.
 
2012-07-06 11:47:01 AM  

BillCo: It is fitting that we find similarities between Obama and Carter. Both are destined to go down in history as 2 of the worst presidents in the history of the United States.


Your tears probably taste really good. I am looking forward to a bountiful supply in November.
 
2012-07-06 11:47:06 AM  

coco ebert: Generation_D: FlashHarry: Generation_D: At this time in 1980, George Bush senior was over in Iran cutting a deal with the Ayatollah to release the hostages in return for a nice big shipment of weapons.

the fact that reagan negotiated with terrorists to hold americans hostage long enough for him to win the election is one of the most egregiously anti-american acts by an american politician ever. worse than eric cantor's pledge to defend israel against america while visiting bibi netanyahu.

There have been some fairly curious acts by well connected individuals. I like how the right goes batsh*t insane over the trumped-up 'fast and furious' arms thing, which sounds like bureaucratic screw up more than anything so far, but manages to completely ignore things like the existence of gitmo or how it was allowed to come into existence, or what legal hoops had to be created to justify torture, or the ongoing lack of investigations around Cheney's various doings early after 9/11.

Republicans selling off American principles for profit is a long running theme, all the way back to this was the military-industrial complex Eisenhauer warned about.

They're so deeply woven into the fabric of American life that I really have given up any hope seeing them be removed or prosecuted in my lifetime. Vietnam/Watergate was a blip anomaly, and laws came into being shortly after (forbidding reporters from covering the war, making FOIA requests more difficult, on up to Citizens United just recently) .. the fix is in, the good guys lost.

Hunter Thompson seemed to have the best view of things, he'd been in on watching America decline since the 1970s, the America we were brought up with believing in, long gone now. Any wonder the sons and daughters of those are all about promoting an America that gives them handouts and bailouts and tax cuts, but screws everyone else?

We can't even build a highway any more, or a bridge, or a solar wind farm without some sort of politics involved.

Word. S ...


Do you have a link to the Greenwald thing? I usually enjoy reading his stuff.
 
2012-07-06 11:47:49 AM  
Wassa matter, Subtard? You sound concerned.

/Very, very concerned.
 
2012-07-06 11:48:22 AM  

BillCo: It is fitting that we find similarities between Obama and Carter. Both are destined to go down in history as 2 of the worst presidents in the history of the United States.


Can you promise not to change Accounts after November and have to spend another 4 years complaining about 0bama?

Thanks
 
2012-07-06 11:48:51 AM  

Serious Black: Did any of you jackasses actually read the article? Jon Rauch isn't exactly an Obama concern troll, and his proposal is a goddamn smart one IMO.


FTA: Its best hope is to stop nickel-and-diming Mitt Romney and laundry-listing forgettable initiatives and, instead, give independents reason to think that Obama has a clear, viable plan to bolster the economy.

Hold on a second. Obama needs a clear viable plan to bolster the economy, while Mitt Romney is fine with his "I'm not Obama and that should be good enough" economic plan?
 
2012-07-06 11:49:12 AM  
 
2012-07-06 11:49:45 AM  

BillCo: It is fitting that we find similarities between Obama and Carter. Both are destined to go down in history as 2 of the worst presidents in the history of the United States.


You sound tired Bill.
 
2012-07-06 11:50:11 AM  
2) Short-term economic stimulus. Republicans will howl about more spending. Let them. Stimulus measures make sense when unemployment is high and the world is teetering on the edge of a second recession.

Yeah, but people don't know that. Romney will make a credit card analogy with it.
 
2012-07-06 11:50:19 AM  

BillCo: It is fitting that we find similarities between Obama and Carter. Both are destined to go down in history as 2 of the worst presidents in the history of the United States.


Do you have the statisticals on that?
 
2012-07-06 11:50:40 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: BillCo: It is fitting that we find similarities between Obama and Carter. Both are destined to go down in history as 2 of the worst presidents in the history of the United States.

Your tears probably taste really good. I am looking forward to a bountiful supply in November.


Salty. Wet. Good.
 
2012-07-06 11:50:55 AM  

BillCo: It is fitting that we find similarities between Obama and Carter. Both are destined to go down in history as 2 of the worst presidents in the history of the United States.


Except for the fact where Carter's final months in office were chalked up to Murphy's Law, Obama's been hitting the right buttons.

But do keep farking that chicken Bill; you seem to be auditioning to replace Kevin Bacon in a "Animal House" remake.
 
2012-07-06 11:51:24 AM  

Lando Lincoln: Serious Black: Did any of you jackasses actually read the article? Jon Rauch isn't exactly an Obama concern troll, and his proposal is a goddamn smart one IMO.

FTA: Its best hope is to stop nickel-and-diming Mitt Romney and laundry-listing forgettable initiatives and, instead, give independents reason to think that Obama has a clear, viable plan to bolster the economy.

Hold on a second. Obama needs a clear viable plan to bolster the economy, while Mitt Romney is fine with his "I'm not Obama and that should be good enough" economic plan?


You seriously think Jon Rauch is going to vote for Mitt Romney? I have land in Florida for sale if you believe that.
 
2012-07-06 11:51:43 AM  

Lando Lincoln: In this week's episode of "God, how I hope Barack Obama is Jimmy Carter instead of Ronald Reagan"


This. "Liberal" media my ass; they're about as liberal as the IRNA.
 
2012-07-06 11:52:38 AM  
The GOP knew that Obama was going to go public with the results of Fast and Furious sometime in late September - after the conventions, and with enough time to force some quick action in Congress (or at least get the liberals' anger up to effect a massive House takeover and force some action in the new session) - so they had Brian Terry killed by the same crew that did Vince Foster. With juuuuust enough BATF documentation on F&F and by leaving juuuuust enough at the scene to get someone's attention, the GOP monkeywrenched Dear Leader's plan.

With this "murder" now on Erack Obolder's hands, the GOP thought they'd taken the October Surprise out of Obama's playbook.

Little did they know that the gay dirt ZeroChancebama had on John Roberth was about to become the most useful secret in the known universe. By blackKenyan-mailing Judge Johnny, FartRock again tried to get his October Surprise - socialist health care - decided then. It was only the heroic, karate-chopping compromise brokered by Clarence Thomas that got the announcement both tempered (we instead got half socialism, half communism, instead of full-on socialism) and moved earlier to not become the October Surprise that our "44th" President so desperately needs to "win" "reelection".
 
2012-07-06 11:52:45 AM  

BillCo: It is fitting that we find similarities between Obama and Carter. Both are destined to go down in history as 2 of the worst presidents in the history of the United States.


You either have a real short memory or your a partisan hack.


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2012-07-06 11:53:13 AM  

Serious Black: Did any of you jackasses actually read the article? Jon Rauch isn't exactly an Obama concern troll, and his proposal is a goddamn smart one IMO.


It's -A- plan to be sure, but one that could also blow up in Obama's face if he went that way.

the concern he presents is that Obama is losing his message towards independents, but making further left proposals, while base-pleasing, (and making economic sense, IMO) isn't the way to win the middle over. I don't like it, but unfortunately this year, you pretty much HAVE to go all negative.

You're not going to convince a largely right-leaning independent group that more progressive approaches are the answer. You're going to have to hammer home that the alternative (Romney) is that much worse. It's ugly, it's not how things should be, but it is what it is.
 
2012-07-06 11:53:26 AM  
Tha Carter
 
2012-07-06 11:53:35 AM  

Lando Lincoln: Jimmy Carter was going up against a very personable opponent.

Ergo...Obama's not going to be another Jimmy Carter.


Where Carter was a personable opponent, Obama's a grade-A troll of awesomeness. The right plays dog to Obama's Pavlov.
 
2012-07-06 11:55:07 AM  

Rapmaster2000: 2) Short-term economic stimulus. Republicans will howl about more spending. Let them. Stimulus measures make sense when unemployment is high and the world is teetering on the edge of a second recession.

Yeah, but people don't know that. Romney will make a credit card analogy with it.


And Obama can point out that by packaging it with the Bowles-Simpson plan that he's trying to pay off the debt on Uncle Sam's credit card like a responsible American does. Then he can explain how Romney wants to stop paying anything on the credit card and let that debt explode as he builds up tons of late fees and forces the company to jack up the interest rate on the card.
 
2012-07-06 11:55:24 AM  
 
2012-07-06 11:55:35 AM  

The Bestest: Serious Black: Did any of you jackasses actually read the article? Jon Rauch isn't exactly an Obama concern troll, and his proposal is a goddamn smart one IMO.

It's -A- plan to be sure, but one that could also blow up in Obama's face if he went that way.

the concern he presents is that Obama is losing his message towards independents, but making further left proposals, while base-pleasing, (and making economic sense, IMO) isn't the way to win the middle over. I don't like it, but unfortunately this year, you pretty much HAVE to go all negative.

You're not going to convince a largely right-leaning independent group that more progressive approaches are the answer. You're going to have to hammer home that the alternative (Romney) is that much worse. It's ugly, it's not how things should be, but it is what it is.


There may be a sense in the campaign that Romney is doing a fine job of making himself look bad, and they've got some room to play to the base.
 
2012-07-06 11:55:41 AM  

AdolfOliverPanties: I never really thought Freeper Friday was a real thing, but looking at the going green headlines today, I must agree it is real.


It's hard to tell sometimes. After all, EVERY day is Freeperday!
 
2012-07-06 11:55:47 AM  

Serious Black: You seriously think Jon Rauch is going to vote for Mitt Romney?


what does this have to do with how dumb the premise of the article is?
 
2012-07-06 11:59:00 AM  
In the last four years, he's failed to show American's the importance of critical thought, science, health, sustainability.... you lose Obama
 
2012-07-06 12:00:11 PM  

Mjeck: In the last four years, he's failed to show American's the importance of critical thought, science, health, sustainability.... you lose Obama


Coming from a Texan, that's funny.

/unless you're trolling
 
2012-07-06 12:00:51 PM  
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welcome back carter!
 
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