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2012-07-06 10:34:33 AM

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2012-07-06 10:34:54 AM
Le Big Mac.
 
2012-07-06 10:34:56 AM

PJ-: I never understood why it's called hash tag. I mean, why not call it what it really is, pound sign.

Wouldn't twitter be a lot more fun if everybody was just pounding stuff? #yourmom for instance.


£yourmom?
 
2012-07-06 10:35:25 AM

Mega Steve: This is absolutely ridiculous. They're so wrapped up in the whole "We're French!" thing that they can't use words from other cultures? Languages change and grow over time, adding words from other languages as they go. But these freaks have to go and make words up so they don't use the words that already exist? No wonder the rest of Canada hates them.


The thing is, France and Quebec have a "linguistic purity" thing going on. Official forms must use "approved" French words, there are government offices set up specifically to maintain "pure" French usage, and businesses must abide by some fairly absurd regulations about the words they are and are not allowed to use.
 
2012-07-06 10:36:03 AM
#hashtag
 
2012-07-06 10:36:53 AM
#çamarque ?
 
2012-07-06 10:37:57 AM

unlikely: "Le #"


this made me laugh stupidly. something must be psychologically wrong with me.
 
2012-07-06 10:39:42 AM

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2012-07-06 10:39:43 AM
This is stupid. Just declare the words to be French.
 
2012-07-06 10:39:56 AM
How about using "hashtag". Not every freaking word has to have a French equivelent.

/Quebec: d-bags of Canada
 
2012-07-06 10:41:26 AM

bungle_jr: unlikely: "Le #"

this made me laugh stupidly. something must be psychologically wrong with me.


that's cause you were thinking about Tomy TuTone weren't you

687 5309!!!
 
2012-07-06 10:41:53 AM

Hyppy: The thing is, France and Quebec have a "linguistic purity" thing going on. Official forms must use "approved" French words, there are government offices set up specifically to maintain "pure" French usage, and businesses must abide by some fairly absurd regulations about the words they are and are not allowed to use.


The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.

--James D. Nicoll
 
2012-07-06 10:42:42 AM
I say forget about it. Even the French say, the Quebecois don't speak French anyhow.
 
2012-07-06 10:42:44 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: The French don't even do this.


So true. In Paris, it's all "le parking" and "le weekend." Here it's "stationmment" and "fin-de-semaine."

Anyway, I've never been able to figure out whether to call my boss "vous" or "tu." He says "tu" to me, but he's the boss.

The way I see it, they're not speaking French so much as they are badly mispronoucning lower-class provincial Latin.
 
2012-07-06 10:43:26 AM
Octothorpê
 
2012-07-06 10:44:37 AM
If anybody knows how to translate 'hashtag' into French, the Quebec government would like to hear a word from you.
/-1 subby
//#expobill.com
 
2012-07-06 10:45:12 AM

MAYORBOB: I say forget about it. Even the French say, the Quebecois don't speak French anyhow.


une source?
 
2012-07-06 10:47:40 AM
List French words in the English language? I'd love to but I have a rendez-vous at the metro with a certain personage who's nom-de-plume you might have heard of en passant and have to pick up a baguette while I'm en route. Salut!
 
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2012-07-06 10:48:23 AM

Jon iz teh kewl: le tweet

/le mew

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LE SKUNK DE PEW!!!!
 
2012-07-06 10:48:27 AM
You just need a a CanAm rosetta stone, something like this:
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2012-07-06 10:49:20 AM

PJ-: I never understood why it's called hash tag. I mean, why not call it what it really is, pound sign.

Wouldn't twitter be a lot more fun if everybody was just pounding stuff? #yourmom for instance.


Not that I ever read Twitter aloud, but inasmuch as when I read Twitter, it becomes sounds in my head, I always just read the # as silent. So "#yourmom" I just "pronounce" as "your mom."

Never really thought about it before.
 
PJ-
2012-07-06 10:51:05 AM

Nightsweat: PJ-: I never understood why it's called hash tag. I mean, why not call it what it really is, pound sign.

Wouldn't twitter be a lot more fun if everybody was just pounding stuff? #yourmom for instance.

£yourmom?


Sorry, I once again made a mistake and assumed the average farker has a little brain power.

Pound sign the compiler reference
 
2012-07-06 10:51:32 AM
SRSLY: « signet »
 
2012-07-06 10:51:32 AM

WelldeadLink: Octothorpê


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Disapproves of the testicles.
 
2012-07-06 10:51:37 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: I've never been able to figure out whether to call my boss "vous" or "tu." He says "tu" to me, but he's the boss.


You to boss: Vous.
Boss to you: Tu.

He's in a position of authority.
 
2012-07-06 10:51:47 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: AverageAmericanGuy: The French don't even do this.

So true. In Paris, it's all "le parking" and "le weekend." Here it's "stationmment" and "fin-de-semaine."


The thing about Quebec, is that they see themselves as the guardian of the purity of the French language, a role that, in their eyes, the French themselves have given up. So, they focus on the most visible, easiest, and actually least important, part of the French language: vocabulary. As soon as they see an English word, they stomp it like a goomba. Meanwhile, their syntax is infested by "anglicismes". That's more pernicious, but the Quebecer French sound more and more like a word-for-word translation of the English language done by a simple search-and-replace routine.

When you thank them, Quebecers say "bienvenue" instead of "dernier"
"Je visite ma grand-mère" instead of "je rends visite à ma grand-mère"
and other examples I don't remeber.
 
2012-07-06 10:54:47 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Anyway, I've never been able to figure out whether to call my boss "vous" or "tu." He says "tu" to me, but he's the boss.


"Vous" tends to be used for people you don't know, like a stranger.

Once you know them (like a co-worker), "tu" is acceptable.
 
2012-07-06 10:56:04 AM

unlikely: God Is My Co-Pirate: I've never been able to figure out whether to call my boss "vous" or "tu." He says "tu" to me, but he's the boss.

You to boss: Vous.
Boss to you: Tu.

He's in a position of authority.


I stand corrected!
 
2012-07-06 10:57:25 AM
Too bad Quebec cannot read a map and realize that Spanish is far more important in the Western Hemisphere than French.

Primarily French-speaking places in the Western Hemisphere:
Quebec
St. Pierre et Miquelon
Haiti
Guadeloupe
Martinique
Montserrat (mostly deserted now)
French Suriname

Yup, a dominant list of economic powerhouses.

Now, primarily Spanish-speaking places in the Western Hemisphere:
Argentina
Chile
Peru
Uraguay
Bolivia
Paruguay
Colombia
Venezuela
Panama
Costa Rica
Nicaragua
Guatamala
El Salvador
Hondouras
Mexico
Dominican Republic
Cuba
Puerto Rico
Also lots of folks in the southern USA

I'll someone else do the population reseach of number of speakers of each language. I told my daughter:" Yes keep taking French (because she has to) but really, we need to learn Spanish."

/Canadian current taking Spanish lessons
 
2012-07-06 11:00:06 AM

PJ-: Nightsweat: PJ-: I never understood why it's called hash tag. I mean, why not call it what it really is, pound sign.

Wouldn't twitter be a lot more fun if everybody was just pounding stuff? #yourmom for instance.

£yourmom?

Sorry, I once again made a mistake and assumed the average farker has a little brain power.

Pound sign the compiler reference


I'm sorry, I made the mistake the average commenter had a sense of humor and might recognize there are two "pound" symbols and that the confusion is why # is generally now referred to as a hash.
 
2012-07-06 11:00:26 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Anyway, I've never been able to figure out whether to call my boss "vous" or "tu." He says "tu" to me, but he's the boss.


When in doubt, use "vous", always.

At one point, your interlocuteur may tell you you can tell him "tu".
 
2012-07-06 11:01:35 AM
It is often difficult for words created and embedded in Quebecois French to cross the Atlantic and take root in European and African French-language vocabularies - or vice versa. For example, outside Quebec, no one uses the word "pourriel" to mean "spam," "baladodiffusion" for "podcast" and "clavardage" for "chat."

"baladodiffusion" and "clavardage" don't exactly roll off the tongue, so that may be part of the problem.
 
2012-07-06 11:01:48 AM
AverageAmericanGuy: The French don't even do this.

Yes they do. A number of years ago they had their own language board come up with French versions of many computer and other technology related words. France and Quebec both do it. They're nuts about keeping their language "pure". Many nations of language regulators though the French and Quebecois do seem to be more hard line about it than others or at least they're the ones we heard about.

Missing from the list of language regulators: English

TFA:
To create words in French, we must work very quickly. Because once a word from English is implanted (in everyday speech), it's difficult to dislodge," she said.

Get the fark over it, lady. It's a language. Like every language in the history of humanity, it will evolve.

"there exists a real need to implement a digital Francophone Web strategy."

No, you fool, there is no such need. It's a language. It will evolve. Trying to force it just makes you look like idiots.
 
2012-07-06 11:02:29 AM
English is riddled with French words. Suck it, surrender monkeys.
 
2012-07-06 11:04:34 AM
Le cannabis-tagge?
 
2012-07-06 11:04:39 AM
Interesting... but ultimately pointless.

There are two written languages emerging. The language of Knowledge, which, for better or worse, is English. If you want to know something, the information almost always exists in English.

The second is the language of communication. This language has fewer rules, and is becoming more and more phonetic, symbolic, and anacronistic. "See u 2moro", "idk my bff jill", etc. This language will continue to evolve, will adopt the best parts of other languages, and become standard for the vast majority of communications.
 
2012-07-06 11:05:03 AM
Goddamn, I hate the French (speakers). Language is about the most organic, democratic thing in the world. It defies all attempts by ivory tower eggheads to regulate it and that's a good thing. Letting language evolve in darwinian fashion makes it more useful. It's only a matter of time until the world coalesces into one language. We're already mostly there. English is the biggest bastard out there. Steals words from everywhere. You can speak english to just about anyone in the world and there's a fair chance they'll understand enough of what you're saying because English has already borrowed many of their words and returned a few of its own. Fark the French.
 
2012-07-06 11:06:49 AM
Fark them, when I stop hearing french on the food network they can have their own frenchy version of tweet.
 
PJ-
2012-07-06 11:10:58 AM

Nightsweat: PJ-: Nightsweat: PJ-: I never understood why it's called hash tag. I mean, why not call it what it really is, pound sign.

Wouldn't twitter be a lot more fun if everybody was just pounding stuff? #yourmom for instance.

£yourmom?

Sorry, I once again made a mistake and assumed the average farker has a little brain power.

Pound sign the compiler reference

I'm sorry, I made the mistake the average commenter had a sense of humor and might recognize there are two "pound" symbols and that the confusion is why # is generally now referred to as a hash.


So your best attempt at humour is one word? This fact alone shows how uninspired you are at using humour, not only that, you decided to leave out the symbol lb (pound force), or the fact you didn't even attempt at lbs. especially with a yourmom refernce.

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2012-07-06 11:11:14 AM

ObscureNameHere: Too bad Quebec cannot read a map and realize that Spanish is far more important in the Western Hemisphere than French.



Yes, but replace "Western Hemisphere" with "Western Europe" or "Africa" (who really are overdue for a world super-power), and you find it works the other way 'round.

/What's Spanish for hashtag?



padraig: When you thank them, Quebecers say "bienvenue" instead of "dernier"


It's "de rien" ('twas nothing/no problem/think nothing of it), isn't it? But, yeah, it's always bothered me that 'bienvenue' was slotted into that position (though I don't even fully understand why we say "you're welcome" in English). Granted, I grew up in northern NB, so I should just be thankful I got out of there with 2 languages, and not just 'franglais'...
 
2012-07-06 11:12:42 AM

Resolute: Quebec's inferiority complex strikes again! Sometimes a KFC is just a KFC guys, even the Parisians know that.


Sorry, I don't think Calgarians are allowed to comment on other culture's issues, beyond anything more complicated than whether Timmy's cappucinos are true to their Italian heritage. Go back to your strip mall, people with actual cultures worth discussing are talking.
 
2012-07-06 11:13:22 AM
I don't know French so pardon me if I'm totally ignorant here. Do French and Quebecois phones not have the #-button? Wouldn't it just be easy to call the hashtag whatever they call that button? Or have they just called the #-button on the phone that-one-button-that's-not-a-number-no-the-other-one?
 
2012-07-06 11:14:15 AM
It's easy to speak Quebecois French. All you do is say it in English and add "cocksucker" in a bad accent at the end of each sentence.

English - The Quebecois are being farking stupid again.

Quebec - The Quebecois are being farking stupid again - cocksucker.
 
2012-07-06 11:14:36 AM

NewWorldDan: Goddamn, I hate the French (speakers). Language is about the most organic, democratic thing in the world. It defies all attempts by ivory tower eggheads to regulate it and that's a good thing. Letting language evolve in darwinian fashion makes it more useful. It's only a matter of time until the world coalesces into one language. We're already mostly there. English is the biggest bastard out there. Steals words from everywhere. You can speak english to just about anyone in the world and there's a fair chance they'll understand enough of what you're saying because English has already borrowed many of their words and returned a few of its own. Fark the French.


What is worse is the ivory tower bubble of the Canadian government / Ottawa region perception of linguistic realities. Sure, being bi-lingual in Ottawa is important. Go 1 hour east and the odds of someone speaking French naturally or fluently drops of at an exponential rate. Try ordering food in French at a restaurant in Peterborough (for example) and see how far you get.

The other farsical bit (so I've been told) is what passes for 'bi-lingual' in government:

English speaker's French level to be considered bi-lingual: you better be able to defend a doctoral thesis in French.

French speaker's English level to be considered bi-lingual: "Hey guy, close the lights when you out the room."
 
2012-07-06 11:18:14 AM

rmcooper4: I don't know French so pardon me if I'm totally ignorant here. Do French and Quebecois phones not have the #-button? Wouldn't it just be easy to call the hashtag whatever they call that button? Or have they just called the #-button on the phone that-one-button-that's-not-a-number-no-the-other-one?


Hell, even english people don't know what to call it.
Hash, Octothorpe, Number Sign, Pound Key, Square thingie. And really, Until automated answering service, what purpose did it have?
 
2012-07-06 11:18:23 AM

NewWorldDan: Goddamn, I hate the French (speakers). Language is about the most organic, democratic thing in the world. It defies all attempts by ivory tower eggheads to regulate it and that's a good thing. Letting language evolve in darwinian fashion makes it more useful. It's only a matter of time until the world coalesces into one language. We're already mostly there. English is the biggest bastard out there. Steals words from everywhere. You can speak english to just about anyone in the world and there's a fair chance they'll understand enough of what you're saying because English has already borrowed many of their words and returned a few of its own. Fark the French.


Surrender monkey tetsu pissants.
I pee in their l'o and screw them if they are too lazy to pronounce their own language correctly. Like wise the English, Spanish, and Aussies.
Especially the farking aussies.
With their bikies, and shielas, adn wallawallabillibongs.
 
2012-07-06 11:19:26 AM

fawlty: FTFA: It is often difficult for words created and embedded in Quebecois French to cross the Atlantic and take root in European and African French-language vocabularies - or vice versa. For example, outside Quebec, no one uses the word "pourriel" to mean "spam," "baladodiffusion" for "podcast" and "clavardage" for "chat."

That's because those words sound farking stupid and are too long.

/damn frenchies


Not to mention that some of those words never make it into the vocabulary of Quebec francophones, many of whom will just substitute the English word, like everyone else on the planet. The only people who consistently use the bureaucratic inventions are bureaucrats. I've never heard "baladodiffusion" or "clavardage" - and I do a fair bit of professional translation. Pourriel is kind of clever, though.
 
2012-07-06 11:20:16 AM

rmcooper4: I don't know French so pardon me if I'm totally ignorant here. Do French and Quebecois phones not have the #-button? Wouldn't it just be easy to call the hashtag whatever they call that button? Or have they just called the #-button on the phone that-one-button-that's-not-a-number-no-the-other-one?


We call it the pound button because of the British influence on Canada. Unfortunately, the farking English never finished the job and left us with the Quebecers... farking English... still hating them for not getting rid of them in the rebellions of 1837.
 
2012-07-06 11:22:38 AM

Loomy: ObscureNameHere: Too bad Quebec cannot read a map and realize that Spanish is far more important in the Western Hemisphere than French.


Yes, but replace "Western Hemisphere" with "Western Europe" or "Africa" (who really are overdue for a world super-power), and you find it works the other way 'round.
...


True.... but, when you consider what economies are slated to grow (Latin America) and which ones are currently in deep crisis (Western Europe), the next 20 years will likely see a growing importance for Spanish. And, that is not even taking into account what is happening to the voting base in the Southern USA.

And before someone mentions 'China' (and Mandarin), realize that China's GDP numbers are a fiction created by their government. Also, their population working the fields is aging and automation is slow in coming. Young folks don't want to work the farms... so how is all that rice getting harvested to feed everyone in 10-20 years time? They not nearly as stable a powerhouse the popular economic media makes them out to be.
 
2012-07-06 11:27:16 AM
Why not just say "hashtag" even when speaking French and not worry about it?
 
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