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"Today, a man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy, condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all One Consciousness, experiencing itself subjectively......there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."

damn you good sir

This kids an idiot. You don't need mushrooms to do stupid things. I'm sure if given enough time he would have had a similar outcome without any drugs.

Rule 1. Never make life altering decisions on hallucinogenics.
Rule 2. See Rule 1.

The last time i did shrooms,It was 25 years ago. Hanging at a bar.
I ran into a regular,he said he had some shrooms.He was was kinda
wack.Ingested shrooms.Smoked some weed.Drink a few beers.THEN
he tells me he jacked off a few hours ago..Not a prob with that .Whatever.
Well I shook his hand earlier and I could not get that outta my mind.

/ I will shroom again with the proper people
// I just washed my hand

tweek46420: EsteeFlwrPot: actionsaurus: EsteeFlwrPot: Any friends that would do a drug like that aren't good friends in the first place. Sorry to say.

You sound like a sheltered little whiney puss

Nah not at all. I've done my share of hard drugs but I've never messed with shrooms. I've heard some freaky shiat goes down when people take it and the type of people i've known to use that stuff regularly are not people i'd really want myself associated with.

so meth, heroin and crack are all good then?

have you done any Psychedelics? they are very mind expanding

mushrooms are not really something that are abused and some of the nicest people i know have and do eat them on occasion

Not saying people that do them aren't nice, just that they aren't the type of people i'd want to associate myself with on a regular basis.

Omahawg: no, shrooms are great. much, much better than lsd. smooth and mellow. I'm sure that this gentleman was relaxed and smiling when he pulled the trigger. i'm sure of it.

I lol'd

nunpunter: This kids an idiot. You don't need mushrooms to do stupid things. I'm sure if given enough time he would have had a similar outcome without any drugs.

Unless you know something about him that's not from the article, I don't see how you can make that judgement. It's commonly known and accepted that people can do crazy ass crap for bizarre reasons while on acid or shrooms, which is why you don't leave them alone.

So no, he probably wouldn't have eventually almost killed himself if he wasn't tripping on mushrooms.

any doctors in here? I take cellcept and prograf for my kidney transplant but I always wondered if I could do shrooms with no drug interactions. life > being hi

iStig: He needed a kick.

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or a totem

dahmers love zombie: No doubt. Don't leave tripping people alone. Not even once.

That's why I avoid being around such people in the first place. So I don't suddenly get blamed for their actions.

Sleep?

On shrooms?

OK.

I mean, you can close your eyelids and all, but what happens next sure as hell isn't sleep.

Gwyrddu: On the other hand, this is one more example why guns statistically don't make most people safe

You wouldn't consider that maybe illegal drugs played a role too? That gun jumped in his hand and made him kill himself?

I once tripped balls on shrooms and then fell asleep, thinking they'd worn off and awoke feeling like I was in jello -- so much so that I rushed to turn the light on -- only to find everything on the bed quite dry.

/so I'm getting a kick out of these posts

EsteeFlwrPot :
Nah not at all. I've done my share of hard drugs but I've never messed with shrooms. I've heard some freaky shiat goes down when people take it and the type of people i've known to use that stuff regularly are not people i'd really want myself associated with.

Keep associating with people that do hard drugs with you. Keep us posted how that heroin, coke, crack lifestyle works out for ya.

FYI: mushrooms are not hard drugs. Hard drugs are addictive, psilocybin is not.

jylcat: That seems odd to me. Mushrooms are generally pretty chill.

There was an incident a few years ago where a cop in Tualatin OR shot a guy on shrooms and went for their shotgun.

When I shroom I like to either hike around in the mountains or watch cartoons. Going to trip and see Madagascar 3 tomorrow. Yay!

DWitchiewoman: EsteeFlwrPot :
Nah not at all. I've done my share of hard drugs but I've never messed with shrooms. I've heard some freaky shiat goes down when people take it and the type of people i've known to use that stuff regularly are not people i'd really want myself associated with.

Keep associating with people that do hard drugs with you. Keep us posted how that heroin, coke, crack lifestyle works out for ya.

FYI: mushrooms are not hard drugs. Hard drugs are addictive, psilocybin is not.

I don't. I said i've done my share but I don't associate with those types of people either. That was way back in high school/college, not now.

Doesn't sound like traditional mushrooms. Gonna guess Amanitas.

Oh gawd shrooms are like a half step above weed, you just need to block out more time for them.

/Haven't done them since 2009

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: And if you want to know whether you're tripping or not, check a mirror.
But not for very long.

I like dissociatives and I've got to say that is really good advice. I've seen some freaky shiat while doing that.

EsteeFlwrPot: tweek46420: EsteeFlwrPot: actionsaurus: EsteeFlwrPot:
Nah not at all. I've done my share of hard drugs but I've never messed with shrooms. I've heard some freaky shiat goes down when people take it and the type of people i've known to use that stuff regularly are not people i'd really want myself associated with.


So you wouldn't want to hang out with Steve Jobs? He said that taking hallucinogens was one of the most important things he ever did in his life. Or how about Francis Crick? He discovered the structure of DNA while on LSD, which incidentally won him the Nobel Prize in Physiology. How about the Beatles? Surely you could spare a moment of your time to hang out with one of the greatest forces in pop culture history.

Hallucinogens are the drug of choice for people that are smart and interesting.

jylcat: That seems odd to me. Mushrooms are generally pretty chill.

Sure, maybe, but they're also psychoactive hallucinogens.
Things that f**k around with your brain chemistry in strange ways are bound to have unpredictable effects sometimes.


tweek46420: have you done any Psychedelics? they are very mind expanding

"Mind expanding" my arse, they just give you a temporary case of synesthesia.

caramba421: EsteeFlwrPot: tweek46420: EsteeFlwrPot: actionsaurus: EsteeFlwrPot:
Nah not at all. I've done my share of hard drugs but I've never messed with shrooms. I've heard some freaky shiat goes down when people take it and the type of people i've known to use that stuff regularly are not people i'd really want myself associated with.


So you wouldn't want to hang out with Steve Jobs? He said that taking hallucinogens was one of the most important things he ever did in his life. Or how about Francis Crick? He discovered the structure of DNA while on LSD, which incidentally won him the Nobel Prize in Physiology. How about the Beatles? Surely you could spare a moment of your time to hang out with one of the greatest forces in pop culture history.

Hallucinogens are the drug of choice for people that are smart and interesting.

My ex also had this argument. He is 30 yrs old, broke and just moved out of his father's basement to now live in his mom's. But he sure has some good acid stories!

/I dated him because he convinced me he was going to work hard to get out of his situation
//I guess by that he meant smoke a whole lot of weed and eat all day long

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The dream... is over

Or has it just begun...?

ThrobblefootSpectre: You wouldn't consider that maybe illegal drugs played a role too? That gun jumped in his hand and made him kill himself?

Of course it played a role, events have room for more than cause after all. But it's not like mixing guns and drugs is exactly a rare event. Combine guns with either drugs, depression or other mental problems, or just plain stupidity and suddenly it's statistically not that safe to have around compared to the less likely event you'll need a gun to protect yourself and have it on you and pull it out in time to successfully defend yourself.

Omahawg: farkin_noob: When I shroom I like to either hike around in the mountains or watch cartoons. Going to trip and see Madagascar 3 tomorrow. Yay!

have fun. it's a pretty good movie.

circus circus afro circus

Mother of God, that zebra would be horrifying on 'shrooms

Morgellons: Mother of God, that zebra would be horrifying on 'shrooms

It's farking hilarious while on mxe.

/The whole world is hilarious on mxe though.

You know a pinch is more traditional.

Genevieve Marie: Gawdzila: tweek46420: have you done any Psychedelics? they are very mind expanding

"Mind expanding" my arse, they just give you a temporary case of synesthesia.

I'm going to go ahead and strongly disagree and also suggest you maybe listen to a couple of Terrence McKenna lectures.

:)

It's impossible to explain psychedelics to someone that has never taken them before. :)

McKenna and Joe Rogan talk extensively about going to other dimensions of reality on DMT. Pretty wild stuff.

Son, I am disappoint.

dang i thought all this was about a new sit com

yes
/just sayin

caramba421: EsteeFlwrPot: tweek46420: EsteeFlwrPot: actionsaurus: EsteeFlwrPot:
Nah not at all. I've done my share of hard drugs but I've never messed with shrooms. I've heard some freaky shiat goes down when people take it and the type of people i've known to use that stuff regularly are not people i'd really want myself associated with.


So you wouldn't want to hang out with Steve Jobs? He said that taking hallucinogens was one of the most important things he ever did in his life. Or how about Francis Crick? He discovered the structure of DNA while on LSD, which incidentally won him the Nobel Prize in Physiology. How about the Beatles? Surely you could spare a moment of your time to hang out with one of the greatest forces in pop culture history.

Hallucinogens are the drug of choice for people that are smart and interesting.

And for people who think that by taking said drugs, they will become smart and/or interesting.

/they call them fingers, but I've never seen 'em fing.
//wait, there they go.

Genevieve Marie: I'm going to go ahead and strongly disagree and also suggest you maybe listen to a couple of Terrence McKenna lectures.

What do you think I'd find convincing about the "half-raving" of someone who isn't even an expert in the field of what the drugs he takes actually do? His expertise is that he was a new-agey dude who took a whole bunch of drugs, and who was buddies with an biochemist whose pet theory was similarly new-agey and never shown to have any merit. I'm sure his lectures are full of anecdotes of very interesting trips and all, but I'm not sure what's supposed to be compelling about it.


OOBE Juan Kenobi: McKenna and Joe Rogan talk extensively about going to other dimensions of reality on DMT.

So do you suppose he actually went to other dimensions?
I mean, I've had dreams about all sorts of crazy sh*t, how is this any different? Or any more enlightening? Or any more "real"?

OOBE Juan Kenobi: Genevieve Marie: Gawdzila: tweek46420: have you done any Psychedelics? they are very mind expanding

"Mind expanding" my arse, they just give you a temporary case of synesthesia.

I'm going to go ahead and strongly disagree and also suggest you maybe listen to a couple of Terrence McKenna lectures.

:)

It's impossible to explain psychedelics to someone that has never taken them before. :)

McKenna and Joe Rogan talk extensively about going to other dimensions of reality on DMT. Pretty wild stuff.

You don't take dimethyltrypramine, it happens to you. That's a better way to explain it than any other I've ever seen. It's not a trip, it's just something that happens when you picked up the pipe like a dumbass(it'd take a special kind of idiot to hit it for a second time). You may have hit it of your own accord, but what happens after isn't in your control at all. It happened, deal with it. There is no point of reference, nothing to compare to reality. Even Straussman's "The Spirit Molecule" doesn't touch on that, I think ten hits of LSD is a great afternoon, I love my psychedelics. DMT is far outside of the human frame of reference. I don't know if I'll do it again even if offered, there is NOTHING that compares to a breakthrough DMT experience, it's so far beyond what the human mind experiences normally that it's beyond alien, I used to joke about "you never come all the way home" about LSD, it's absolutely true with DMT. You won't ever see the world the same way again, and I imagine it might be dangerous for people who don't want to see the cracks in their perception. Makes salvia divinorum look like a toy, it's not an experience most people should have, regardless of what the proponents of psychedelia state. LSD is fun shiat, DMT is something beyond, you'll never be the same again if it happens to you. And it happens, you don't take it. Trip doesn't begin to describe it, if it happens to you be aware.

That said, I've also jumped on a friend who tried to shoot himself while tripping(brugmansia flowers, not mushrooms, same "I need to wake up" type of thing though.), even a graze from a .45 is a hell of a wound. If someone's freaking out on a psyche and you're not an experienced handler, your best bet is to tie them to a chair. Keep checking on them once an hour or so, keep them tied up for an hour after you're sure they're cool.If you are an experienced handler, you already know how to deal with it, they don't exactly give classes on it.

/DMT literally 180'd my life
//still not sure I'd go for it again.

chaosweaver: caramba421: Hallucinogens are the drug of choice for people that are smart and interesting.

And for people who think that by taking said drugs, they will become smart and/or interesting.

Lol. Yes.

Genevieve Marie: OOBE Juan Kenobi: McKenna and Joe Rogan talk extensively about going to other dimensions of reality on DMT. Pretty wild stuff.

The McKenna lectures on it are fascinating, but I have a lot of issues with Joe Rogan as an ambassador for psychedelics. I think Terrence McKenna probably would have had a lot of the same issues.

(Read Food of the Gods and pay attention to the section on dominator cultures vs. partnership cultures and then think about where Joe Rogan and the UFC would fit in.)

I understand where you're coming from with Rogan. I think it's great that you actually care about these things, honestly.

I've personally have never tried DMT, but with Salvia I had a few intense out of body experiences. Both of these substances lead to a higher knowledge of the Universe. I think it's great when people are vocal about things that are so incredibly strange and left-field to most people. It would be so great if we could all steer away from alcohol and more towards these types of things, and then discovering things like the Higgs boson would seem like small potatoes. lol

Been there, didn't do that.

Although I still have those thoughts some days.

/I really need to sell my sidearm