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2012-07-05 08:22:34 PM
It didn't take me out of the movie but I did keep thinking he looked more like Killer Croc than anything.
 
2012-07-05 08:29:06 PM
Does anybody actually say "bing it"? I've never heard anybody say that, ever.

Reminds me when google maps was starting to surpass mapquest, people would still say "mapquest it" even when basically everyone was using google.
 
2012-07-05 09:24:45 PM
Sony is obnoxious with their product placement. They released Jack and Jill and the historically whoorish James Bond films.
 
2012-07-05 10:20:52 PM
Yabingle?
 
2012-07-05 10:47:47 PM
i.imgur.com
I thought it was a very interesting three-way cross-promotion.
 
2012-07-05 11:10:05 PM
Seriously - I consider myself pretty computer saavy. I don't think I've ever used Bing in my life. Does anyone ? While we're on the topic, is there anyone out there who actually uses Google+ ?

Must suck to be the latecomer. Just ask the HP Tablet.
 
2012-07-05 11:11:17 PM
Emma Stone is a natural blonde, submitter.
 
2012-07-05 11:13:43 PM

Wolf_Blitzer: Emma Stone is a natural blonde, submitter.


So you're saying the curtains match the drapes?
 
2012-07-05 11:16:33 PM

DeltaPunch: Does anybody actually say "bing it"? I've never heard anybody say that, ever.


No, but Microsoft really, really, really, really, really wants you to.
 
2012-07-05 11:16:56 PM

GreenAdder: [i.imgur.com image 512x425]
I thought it was a very interesting three-way cross-promotion.


I larfed
 
2012-07-05 11:16:57 PM
I saw the film opening night and managed to ignore the product placement. For me, the most unrealistic moment was when Spidey and Gwen are having a conversation on their cell phones that's crystal clear, even though he's walking into a sewer. I go into the underground parking of my building and I lose my signal.
 
2012-07-05 11:17:55 PM

elvindeath: Seriously - I consider myself pretty computer saavy. I don't think I've ever used Bing in my life. Does anyone ? While we're on the topic, is there anyone out there who actually uses Google+ ?

Must suck to be the latecomer. Just ask the HP Tablet.


I have used Bing, but only because my morning routine includes MSN for news. Every time I have used Bing was because their 'popular searches' sidebar doesn't have a Bing logo on it. I kick myself every time.
 
2012-07-05 11:21:47 PM
l3.yimg.com
She's never been hotter. Knee socks and boots in every scene.
Also, I liked the movie, it had some issues, but I was pretty glad I saw it.
 
2012-07-05 11:22:44 PM

Summoner101: Wolf_Blitzer: Emma Stone is a natural blonde, submitter.

So you're saying the curtains match the drapes?


You mean the curtains match the carpets... but she has hardwood floors.
 
2012-07-05 11:24:35 PM

elvindeath: Seriously - I consider myself pretty computer saavy. I don't think I've ever used Bing in my life. Does anyone ?


Every once in a blue moon Google is down for a few seconds, so I use Bing instead. It works okay, but not great. I'd give it a C+.

Mugato: Sony is obnoxious with their product placement. They released Jack and Jill and the historically whoorish James Bond films.


The only music videos I've seen with outright product placement were also from Sony.
 
2012-07-05 11:24:56 PM
CSB the only time I've used Bing was the other day because Chrome was having an issue with its search/address bar and google search wasn't working
 
2012-07-05 11:25:56 PM
Bing maps is quite cool. For big cities they have birds eye view and views looking north, east etc. So you don't just see the top of a building like Google maps, you can see each side.
Shame it is so jerky in tracking. And doesn't have streetwise, except in a few big cities.
 
2012-07-05 11:26:36 PM

elvindeath: Seriously - I consider myself pretty computer saavy. I don't think I've ever used Bing in my life. Does anyone ? While we're on the topic, is there anyone out there who actually uses Google+ ?

Must suck to be the latecomer. Just ask the HP Tablet.


It's claimed that they have 150 million daily active users. Take that with a grain of salt, I suppose.
 
2012-07-05 11:26:37 PM

MrEricSir: Every once in a blue moon Google is down for a few seconds, so I use Bing instead. It works okay, but not great. I'd give it a C+.


I used Bing once... just to see what it was like. I don't remember what I was searching for, but like the 4th or 5th result was Donkey Porn. I shiat you not.
 
2012-07-05 11:27:49 PM
What's important is that Peter got calls from Uncle Ben on his Xperia phone and looked up information on spiders on his Vaio computer.

Bing. Freaking seriously.
 
2012-07-05 11:27:56 PM
The worst product placement was Macy Gray in the first movie.
 
2012-07-05 11:27:58 PM
Am I the only freakazoid who thinks Rhys Ifans is hot in a really weird way?
 
2012-07-05 11:34:18 PM
Grace Park can Bing me.
 
2012-07-05 11:34:54 PM
Bing is much better because when you search for porn videos the preview images will show the actual video when you mouse over them.

Um... I mean Caturday videos. Yeah, that's the ticket.
 
2012-07-05 11:36:26 PM
The product placement did not bother me at all. For me, it was just delightful to see, as expected, how wrong the Fark opinion that the movie would suck was. Although it wasn't perfect, and not as good IMO as Spider-Man 1 & 2, it was very good. The fight scenes were spectacular and it is BY FAR the most visually striking movie I have seen in 3D to date. If you thought Prometheus looked good, ASM looked better. Don't even bother arguing the point, it did. Also, the theatre I saw it in was equipped with Dbox motion seats seats. The chairs were made for this movie.

Finally, saw the trailer for The Hobbit. Relax people, it looks stunning.
 
2012-07-05 11:38:42 PM

chewielouie: Finally, saw the trailer for The Hobbit. Relax people, it looks stunning.


People were expecting it not to be stunning?
 
2012-07-05 11:39:22 PM

chewielouie: equipped with Dbox motion seats seats


You said "seats" twice.
 
2012-07-05 11:40:05 PM
I was one of the first people to get a BlackBerry Storm; it was also my first cell phone and I still have it.

Anyway, I noticed that a few days ago when I searched for something on google, I kept getting some weird error message. Yesterday after trying it again, I looked to see what other search engine options I had and Bing was one of them. I used it and it worked. Which seems very odd to me.

Don't notice anything good or bad about it. It's okay for my cell phone. But it might be time to look at getting another one of those . . .
 
2012-07-05 11:41:06 PM
yeah, I just use bing for porn vids. It's good for that and little else
 
2012-07-05 11:41:35 PM
That movie gets a HYUUUUUUGE MEH from me. First, I hate movies that film scenes specifically for 3D. Second, there were too many of those dumb awkward teenage moments between Parker and Gwen. Felt like the movie was made for MTV teens. Third, I didn't think there was enough fighting between Spidey and Croc.
 
2012-07-05 11:42:41 PM

chewielouie: Also, the theatre I saw it in was equipped with Dbox motion seats seats


It's a pricy upgrade, but worth it. Although I have to say it was put to better use in "The Avengers."
 
2012-07-05 11:42:56 PM

elvindeath: Seriously - I consider myself pretty computer saavy. I don't think I've ever used Bing in my life. Does anyone ? While we're on the topic, is there anyone out there who actually uses Google+ ?

Must suck to be the latecomer. Just ask the HP Tablet.


No, and no.

/I do have a HP Touchpad, though.
//it's running Android
 
2012-07-05 11:44:50 PM
i.telegraph.co.uk
 
2012-07-05 11:46:08 PM
I used Bing, once.

Once.
 
2012-07-05 11:47:55 PM

Cosmoboy: She's never been hotter.


I'd bing her like a cherry.
 
2012-07-05 11:48:45 PM

Knarf: yeah, I just use bing the internet for porn vids. It's good for that and little else


Let's not kid ourselves.
 
2012-07-05 11:49:03 PM

0Icky0: chewielouie: Finally, saw the trailer for The Hobbit. Relax people, it looks stunning.

People were expecting it not to be stunning?


Yup, because it's being filmed or shown (I'm just not sure on the details) at a higher frame rate than normal. It does look different. It looks more real.
 
2012-07-05 11:51:38 PM

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static.guim.co.uk
 
2012-07-05 11:52:09 PM

chewielouie: The product placement did not bother me at all. For me, it was just delightful to see, as expected, how wrong the Fark opinion that the movie would suck was. Although it wasn't perfect, and not as good IMO as Spider-Man 1 & 2, it was very good. The fight scenes were spectacular and it is BY FAR the most visually striking movie I have seen in 3D to date. If you thought Prometheus looked good, ASM looked better. Don't even bother arguing the point, it did. Also, the theatre I saw it in was equipped with Dbox motion seats seats. The chairs were made for this movie.

Finally, saw the trailer for The Hobbit. Relax people, it looks stunning.


Yeah, I put it right there with the first Spider-man. Spider-man 2 for me was one of the very best superhero movies.
 
2012-07-05 11:53:08 PM
I dunno, I think that the movies that show everybody using an iProduct, and nothing but an iProduct, is more obtrusive.
 
2012-07-05 11:54:26 PM

Cosmoboy: 0Icky0: chewielouie: Finally, saw the trailer for The Hobbit. Relax people, it looks stunning.

People were expecting it not to be stunning?

Yup, because it's being filmed or shown (I'm just not sure on the details) at a higher frame rate than normal. It does look different. It looks more real.


Filmed and shown at 48 fps. Basically, people who've seen the higher framerate footage are saying "more real" means that it looks like 14 guys wearing obviously fake beards and makeup.
 
2012-07-05 11:56:16 PM
I think "The Island" had the worst product placement. It was so in your face all the time that it was sickening.
 
2012-07-05 11:59:27 PM
From two of the marketing guys from Scary Movie comes...

PRODUCT PLACEMENT MOVIE

/when this is released, feel free to blame me for giving them ideas
 
2012-07-06 12:01:46 AM

chewielouie: The product placement did not bother me at all. For me, it was just delightful to see, as expected, how wrong the Fark opinion that the movie would suck was. Although it wasn't perfect, and not as good IMO as Spider-Man 1 & 2, it was very good. The fight scenes were spectacular and it is BY FAR the most visually striking movie I have seen in 3D to date. If you thought Prometheus looked good, ASM looked better. Don't even bother arguing the point, it did. Also, the theatre I saw it in was equipped with Dbox motion seats seats. The chairs were made for this movie.

Finally, saw the trailer for The Hobbit. Relax people, it looks stunning.


Umm, better 3D than "Avatar"? Every other movie I've seen that had 3D, the 3D added nothing, with the exception of "Transformers 3", which still was nowhere near close to "Avatar." I don't expect this to come close either.
 
2012-07-06 12:02:06 AM

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: I dunno, I think that the movies that show everybody using an iProduct, and nothing but an iProduct, is more obtrusive.


Or in the first "X-Men" movie where every single TV was the same brand of HDTV - even where it wouldn't economically make sense to own one at that point. What, some dive bar in northern Canada is going to splurge on a fancy widescreen LCD to go with their cagefighting and unswept floors?
 
2012-07-06 12:02:10 AM
Can someone explain to me why a movie that first came out 10 years ago needs a remake telling the same exact farking story? The original 2002 movie still holds up extremely well and so do the followups. Not even being snarky I just don't get why anyone would be retarded enough to pay for the same story again.
 
2012-07-06 12:04:39 AM
It's weird to me that in fiction movie people are worried about using Bing over Google. And honestly Bing has a better video and picture search engine than Google. Part of that is Googles preference for it's own hosting services (Youtube) but also that MS has some pretty sophisticated ways of actually telling what's in the video or picture that Google just isn't doing.
 
2012-07-06 12:04:59 AM
The Bing search was a minor distraction compared to everything else that was wrong with the new Spider-man flick.

***SPOILERS***

- A plot that was nearly identical to the first Raimi film, and written so half-assed that it reminded me how great Raimi's take was. No real emotional buildup to anything - stuff just "happens" with no impact. Several plotlines got dropped completely or had no purpose, like The Lizard on the bridge looking for his boss who fired him. Why was he looking for him? Just to kill him? Because he failed and then there was no follow-up. And what about the dying rich guy that the research was supposed to be saving?

- We're supposed to buy it that in a giant metropolis, the girl Spidey just happens to have a crush on runs the internship program for the villain's lab AND is the daughter of the police captain who hates Spider-man? Even if that matches the comics, it's too much to coincidence to believe when delivered in one damn movie.

- So many eye-rolling moments, capped by the stupid crane sequence.

- No compelling villains - the bully at school turns out to be an OK guy after three scenes of being a d!ck, and The Lizard only sort of wants to do bad things, and has a half-baked idea of turning the whole city into lizard people.

The only positives were the actors, who I thought were good, although it was tough to buy the two leads as being high school age (both actors are well into their 20's and look it). And the visual effects were great in 3D.
 
2012-07-06 12:06:28 AM

Disposable Rob: velvet_fog: [i.telegraph.co.uk image 620x388]

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Return Of The Killer Tomatoes had a great Product Placement scene too.
 
2012-07-06 12:08:42 AM

styckx: Can someone explain to me why a movie that first came out 10 years ago needs a remake telling the same exact farking story? The original 2002 movie still holds up extremely well and so do the followups. Not even being snarky I just don't get why anyone would be retarded enough to pay for the same story again.


It didn't really, but they bring in Gwen and Captain Stacy!!! I also thought they did a better job with the Uncle Ben issue, and they dropped the cheesy wrestling gig. I would have been perfectly happy with a continuation, but this new continuity is one I'm looking forward to now.
 
2012-07-06 12:09:40 AM
Mac & Me was the best movie for product placement ever.
 
2012-07-06 12:10:27 AM

Optimal_Illusion: Return Of The Killer Tomatoes had a great Product Placement scene too.


And it did so before Mike Myers beat the joke into the ground in every farking movie.
 
2012-07-06 12:14:47 AM
I love product placement.
I think if more movies did it, they'd care less about pirating because it just means that more people are going to see the commercials..
 
2012-07-06 12:16:30 AM
He also spends about a third of the movie beating up guys who look like Chad Kroeger, so there's that.
 
2012-07-06 12:16:52 AM
I agree that the movie was a non-entity for me. I couldn't care at all for the characters and everything felt disposable. A scene that really stuck out for me was the crane jump, Assassins Creed edition. Hell, they even did a spotlight thing and basically walked you through what you had to do.

The Sam Raimi movies were for fans who read the comics. The Marc Webb movie was for those who played the game based on the comics. Hell, most of the movie broke down to action-cutscene-action.

SPOILER the fact that Peter just gave up on looking for his Uncle's killer didn't sit well with me-hell, there were a dozen plots that were started and just dropped. Came off as a big "Whatev, dude."

Prometheus sucked, this sucked... TDKR better bring it or it'll be a bleak summer.
 
2012-07-06 12:17:12 AM

shower_in_my_socks: And what about the dying rich guy that the research was supposed to be saving?


Norman Osborn??? Pretty sure he'll be tackled in a future installment....

shower_in_my_socks: No compelling villains - the bully at school turns out to be an OK guy after three scenes of being a d!ck

Flash is an Ok guy. All he did was tell Peter he was sorry that his uncle died, that's not quite redemption.

shower_in_my_socks: Why was he looking for him?


He wanted to stop him from doing the human trials. But I have to admit, this doesn't seem to have been resolved, in fact, Lizard attempts to convert an entire city...? Puzzling.
 
2012-07-06 12:18:39 AM

Cosmoboy: shower_in_my_socks: And what about the dying rich guy that the research was supposed to be saving?

Norman Osborn??? Pretty sure he'll be tackled in a future installment....

shower_in_my_socks: No compelling villains - the bully at school turns out to be an OK guy after three scenes of being a d!ck
Flash is an Ok guy. All he did was tell Peter he was sorry that his uncle died, that's not quite redemption.

shower_in_my_socks: Why was he looking for him?

He wanted to stop him from doing the human trials. But I have to admit, this doesn't seem to have been resolved, in fact, Lizard attempts to convert an entire city...? Puzzling.


Sony gave us a whitman's sampler of a movie squished into a sticky ball of chocolate, nougat, and coconut.
 
2012-07-06 12:20:45 AM

Cosmoboy: I also thought they did a better job with the Uncle Ben issue



See, I thought that was the worst part in a movie full of bad parts.

Ahem... ***SPOILERS*** again

The bad guy stole a few bucks from an open cash register. It wasn't even armed robbery. No gun. Just petty theft. Then he trips and falls in front of Uncle Ben and suddenly there's a gun, and it falls out. And then for absolutely no farking reason, Uncle Ben feels compelled to charge the dude and wrestle him over the gun. The dude wasn't threatening anybody with the gun, he hadn't shot anybody. It just fell out. And then, he dies instantly. No final moment between them. Nope, the dude's just dead. Maybe here the writers finally realized they needed to mix-up the first act some more from the 2002 version, but everything about that scene was inferior to Raimi's take on it.
 
2012-07-06 12:21:57 AM

Cosmoboy: styckx: Can someone explain to me why a movie that first came out 10 years ago needs a remake telling the same exact farking story? The original 2002 movie still holds up extremely well and so do the followups. Not even being snarky I just don't get why anyone would be retarded enough to pay for the same story again.

It didn't really, but they bring in Gwen and Captain Stacy!!! I also thought they did a better job with the Uncle Ben issue, and they dropped the cheesy wrestling gig. I would have been perfectly happy with a continuation, but this new continuity is one I'm looking forward to now.


If you were born in 2002 and are a boy, you are now a 10 year old boy. 10 year old boys dig the shiat out of Spiderman. This is a new movie to them that has nothing to do with the other movie. 10 year old. It's like toys. Parents buy them toys. All that equals The Amazing Spiderman. Expect a new Batman in 5-7 years.
 
2012-07-06 12:23:05 AM
I thought that anonymous red-headed geek girl extra was hotter than Emma
 
2012-07-06 12:24:08 AM

shower_in_my_socks: The Bing search was a minor distraction compared to everything else that was wrong with the new Spider-man flick.

***SPOILERS***

- A plot that was nearly identical to the first Raimi film, and written so half-assed that it reminded me how great Raimi's take was. No real emotional buildup to anything - stuff just "happens" with no impact. Several plotlines got dropped completely or had no purpose, like The Lizard on the bridge looking for his boss who fired him. Why was he looking for him? Just to kill him? Because he failed and then there was no follow-up. And what about the dying rich guy that the research was supposed to be saving?

I was half waiting for the post credits scene where the guy was still dangling from the bridge in his limo. He just gets attacked and disappears.

- We're supposed to buy it that in a giant metropolis, the girl Spidey just happens to have a crush on runs the internship program for the villain's lab AND is the daughter of the police captain who hates Spider-man? Even if that matches the comics, it's too much to coincidence to believe when delivered in one damn movie.
Yeah, that was stretching credibility a lot, and it actually didn't occur to me until you mentioned it.

- So many eye-rolling moments, capped by the stupid crane sequence.
Does C. Thomas Howell have something on somebody? As soon as I saw him the second time, I was all "I bet he has some kind of convenient job that helps Spidey." Although, cheesy as the crane sequence was, it was cool that the people of New York were backing Spidey like that.

- No compelling villains - the bully at school turns out to be an OK guy after three scenes of being a d!ck, and The Lizard only sort of wants to do bad things, and has a half-baked idea of turning the whole city into lizard people.
Seriously, right?! Raimi made you empathize with his villains, you could understand their motivations, as weird as they were (except for Norman, though). As soon as Connors' first transformation into the Lizard, he became a one-note bad guy. Then, Flash has no character arc to explain why he goes from near-homicidal douchebag to sensitive "let it out, bro" guy to buddy-buddy "ah, I'm giving my buddy Pete a noogie" Flash at the end. Was that all left on the cutting room floor?

The only positives were the actors, who I thought were good, although it was tough to buy the two leads as being high school age (both actors are well into their 20's and look it). And the visual effects were great in 3D.
 
2012-07-06 12:25:38 AM

Mawson of the Antarctic: A scene that really stuck out for me was the crane jump, Assassins Creed edition. Hell, they even did a spotlight thing and basically walked you through what you had to do.



LOL. Yeah, the spotlight was terrible. As if a mentally retarded 5-year-old couldn't already figure out that Spidey was supposed to jump from crane to crane. No, we better put a spotlight on it just to be sure he and the audience "get" this brilliant scenario we've devised.

Never mind the suspension of disbelief it takes for the first crane guy to recognize "hey, that's the guy who saved my kid!", that he just happened to be working at that moment, that he could get all of the other crane operators' immediate cooperation without any explanation, and that a line of cranes just happened to be placed in a neat little platform video game-style row leading to Spider-man's destination.
 
2012-07-06 12:27:07 AM
The Glades, and all the shows on USA and SyFy do this all the time
/Even have the actors talk specs about the product
 
2012-07-06 12:28:23 AM

Cosmoboy: shower_in_my_socks: No compelling villains - the bully at school turns out to be an OK guy after three scenes of being a d!ck
Flash is an Ok guy. All he did was tell Peter he was sorry that his uncle died, that's not quite redemption.


Flash is an OK guy when he's an adult, and has overcome alcoholism and the loss of his legs in battle (I want to say Afghanistan). In this movie, he had not character arc to speak of (see my above comment.).
 
2012-07-06 12:30:35 AM

Neums: - We're supposed to buy it that in a giant metropolis, the girl Spidey just happens to have a crush on runs the internship program for the villain's lab AND is the daughter of the police captain who hates Spider-man? Even if that matches the comics, it's too much to coincidence to believe when delivered in one damn movie.
Yeah, that was stretching credibility a lot, and it actually didn't occur to me until you mentioned it.



Just the fact that she was working for Spidey's dad's ex-partner, on its own, made me go "Whaaaat?" the minute I saw her there. Then when her dad turned out to be Dennis Leary, I stopped giving a shiat. I actually started figuring out the odds of that happening, I was so taken out of the movie by that time. And I'm not a movie snob - I like mindless big budget CGI-fests as long as they aren't totally defying logic every five minutes.
 
2012-07-06 12:33:40 AM

0Icky0: chewielouie: Finally, saw the trailer for The Hobbit. Relax people, it looks stunning.

People were expecting it not to be stunning?


Yes, a lot of people are worried about it being shot at 48fps.
 
2012-07-06 12:34:15 AM

fusillade762: chewielouie: equipped with Dbox motion seats seats

You said "seats" twice.


I like seats.
 
2012-07-06 12:37:29 AM

chewielouie: 0Icky0: chewielouie: Finally, saw the trailer for The Hobbit. Relax people, it looks stunning.

People were expecting it not to be stunning?

Yes, a lot of people are worried about it being shot at 48fps.


Would we be able to tell 48fps For the current trailers? I'm assuming they don't have the updated projectors in place and we're seeing down sampled versions.

How much does one bet that come round December there's like 10 theaters that have the 48fps projectors or can an IMAX projector show it?
 
2012-07-06 12:38:51 AM

shower_in_my_socks: The bad guy stole a few bucks from an open cash register. It wasn't even armed robbery. No gun. Just petty theft. Then he trips and falls in front of Uncle Ben and suddenly there's a gun, and it falls out. And then for absolutely no farking reason, Uncle Ben feels compelled to charge the dude and wrestle him over the gun. The dude wasn't threatening anybody with the gun, he hadn't shot anybody. It just fell out. And then, he dies instantly. No final moment between them. Nope, the dude's just dead. Maybe here the writers finally realized they needed to mix-up the first act some more from the 2002 version, but everything about that scene was inferior to Raimi's take on it.


Oh, and they never said THE line. The quintessential Spider-Man line. "With great power, comes great responsibility." Sure, the word "responsibility" was used at some point by Uncle Ben, but he never explicitly said it. He danced around saying it with his long winded "People with gifts have a moral obligation blah blah blah" speech after Peter embarrassed Flash in the school gym. People could argue that the line was used enough in the trilogy, but hey, new continuity, put the line in there. It's not a good Spider-Man tale without the line.
 
2012-07-06 12:39:47 AM

Neums: Cosmoboy: shower_in_my_socks: No compelling villains - the bully at school turns out to be an OK guy after three scenes of being a d!ck
Flash is an Ok guy. All he did was tell Peter he was sorry that his uncle died, that's not quite redemption.

Flash is an OK guy when he's an adult, and has overcome alcoholism and the loss of his legs in battle (I want to say Afghanistan). In this movie, he had not character arc to speak of (see my above comment.).


But doesn't the fact that he is empathizing with Peter make him a little more complex? Otherwise you're asking Flash to be a one note character. I can't argue that there wasn't an arc showing the why of that, but I gotta believe that these characters are intended for multi movie arcs.
 
2012-07-06 12:41:24 AM

shower_in_my_socks: Just the fact that she was working for Spidey's dad's ex-partner, on its own, made me go "Whaaaat?" the minute I saw her there. Then when her dad turned out to be Dennis Leary, I stopped giving a shiat. I actually started figuring out the odds of that happening, I was so taken out of the movie by that time. And I'm not a movie snob - I like mindless big budget CGI-fests as long as they aren't totally defying logic every five minutes.


I'm waiting for (and I'm so afraid it's gonna happen, with how they set it up), in the next movie, no matter who the villain is, Peter's going to find something he missed in his father's old briefcase that says, "Oh, hey, my dad worked with this guy's civilian identity before he died, too!"
 
2012-07-06 12:44:30 AM

Cosmoboy: Neums: Cosmoboy: shower_in_my_socks: No compelling villains - the bully at school turns out to be an OK guy after three scenes of being a d!ck
Flash is an Ok guy. All he did was tell Peter he was sorry that his uncle died, that's not quite redemption.

Flash is an OK guy when he's an adult, and has overcome alcoholism and the loss of his legs in battle (I want to say Afghanistan). In this movie, he had not character arc to speak of (see my above comment.).

But doesn't the fact that he is empathizing with Peter make him a little more complex? Otherwise you're asking Flash to be a one note character. I can't argue that there wasn't an arc showing the why of that, but I gotta believe that these characters are intended for multi movie arcs.


Right, but it's just too jarring. Flash hates Pete because he's a nerd and he actually has the balls to occasionally stand up to him. Then all of a sudden Ben's dead and he has sensitivity. No go for me.
 
2012-07-06 12:45:56 AM
Thanks everyone for voting with their wallets and telling the studios we want more mediocrity!
 
2012-07-06 12:50:12 AM
I loved it, after months of Fark "WORST EVAR!!" threads. I put it second only to Spidey 2. Andrew Garfield was fantastic in the role. Jesus Christ, you guys...
 
2012-07-06 12:59:44 AM

browntimmy: Thanks everyone for voting with their wallets and telling the studios we want more mediocrity!


Everyone already did that with "Avatar."
 
HBK
2012-07-06 01:00:07 AM

Neums: Cosmoboy: Neums: Cosmoboy: shower_in_my_socks: No compelling villains - the bully at school turns out to be an OK guy after three scenes of being a d!ck
Flash is an Ok guy. All he did was tell Peter he was sorry that his uncle died, that's not quite redemption.

Flash is an OK guy when he's an adult, and has overcome alcoholism and the loss of his legs in battle (I want to say Afghanistan). In this movie, he had not character arc to speak of (see my above comment.).

But doesn't the fact that he is empathizing with Peter make him a little more complex? Otherwise you're asking Flash to be a one note character. I can't argue that there wasn't an arc showing the why of that, but I gotta believe that these characters are intended for multi movie arcs.

Right, but it's just too jarring. Flash hates Pete because he's a nerd and he actually has the balls to occasionally stand up to him. Then all of a sudden Ben's dead and he has sensitivity. No go for me.


That actually happened at my school. There was a nerdy sophomore whose fairly nerdy brother was a senior. The sophomore kid got picked on quite a bit. Then the older brother died in a car accident and then everyone was his best friend. The cliquish cool kids were buying him lunch and doing him favors. Some kids are ruthless, others are just dicks but have a heart.

/CSB
//haven't seen the movie, but that scene would've been more real to me than a smart kid using Bing
 
2012-07-06 01:03:02 AM

blackminded: I loved it, after months of Fark "WORST EVAR!!" threads. I put it second only to Spidey 2. Andrew Garfield was fantastic in the role. Jesus Christ, you guys...


He was a great Peter, and Emma's Gwen was much better than Kirstens MJ.
 
HBK
2012-07-06 01:04:22 AM

GreenAdder: browntimmy: Thanks everyone for voting with their wallets and telling the studios we want more mediocrity!

Everyone already did that with "Avatar."


While the acting, story, and script were disappointingly mediocre, Avatar as a whole (the 3D version) was by no means mediocre. Maybe gimmicky, but it was visually spectacular.
 
2012-07-06 01:05:31 AM

tgambitg: MrEricSir: Every once in a blue moon Google is down for a few seconds, so I use Bing instead. It works okay, but not great. I'd give it a C+.

I used Bing once... just to see what it was like. I don't remember what I was searching for, but like the 4th or 5th result was Donkey Porn. I shiat you not.


Sad thing is, especially if you were searching for Donkey Porn, it sounds like a pretty shiatty search engine.
 
2012-07-06 01:15:56 AM
This reminds me... Whatever happened to Nuprin?
 
2012-07-06 01:17:20 AM

GreenAdder: browntimmy: Thanks everyone for voting with their wallets and telling the studios we want more mediocrity!

Everyone already did that with "Avatar."


Whoa whoa whoa, MIB 3 being the highest grossing MIB movie is a perfect example of what you are talking about. Avatar? Why should consumers discourage guys like James Cameron from taking the time to create a whole new universe along with the technology to craft and deliver his vision? Avatar really is Star Wars done better, believe it or not.

I will say that Hollywood really needs to make a great Superman movie. It's been far too long since Superman 2. Just give us Superman vs. Darkseid's underlings to set up a sequel with Superman vs. Darkseid, that's all it takes. No real estate schemes, no deadbeat dad, none of that garbage.
 
2012-07-06 01:20:12 AM

shower_in_my_socks: Then he trips and falls in front of Uncle Ben and suddenly there's a gun, and it falls out. And then for absolutely no farking reason, Uncle Ben feels compelled to charge the dude and wrestle him over the gun. The dude wasn't threatening anybody with the gun, he hadn't shot anybody. It just fell out.


You must have been in the bathroom when Ben was talking about doing the right thing just because it's the right thing. And he stopped the guy because he was obviously a criminal, the shop keeper was screaming for someone to stop him.
 
2012-07-06 01:21:50 AM

chewielouie: If you thought Prometheus looked good, ASM looked better. Don't even bother arguing the point, it did.


No. You're on drugs. Prometheus looked Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better. Not hacking on ASM, but there's no comparison. The first five minutes of Prometheus looked better than most things put on film recently.
 
2012-07-06 01:23:13 AM

Guidette Frankentits: Yabingle?


That sound disturbing...ly awesome.

/how much for a Yabingle, mam?
 
2012-07-06 01:23:35 AM
The only reason BING hasmarket share is because Micro$oft forces IE and a crapload of mobile devices to default to BING. Odd that the name is so apt, BING certainly Is NOT Google.
 
2012-07-06 01:29:30 AM

tzzhc4: The only reason BING hasmarket share is because Micro$oft forces IE and a crapload of mobile devices to default to BING. Odd that the name is so apt, BING certainly Is NOT Google.


Same with Chrome and it's slick ways of loading itself with freeware
/Why in the hell is a slight delay when installing CCleaner before it ask you do you want to install Chrome.
 
2012-07-06 01:35:18 AM

DeltaPunch: Does anybody actually say "bing it"? I've never heard anybody say that, ever.

Reminds me when google maps was starting to surpass mapquest, people would still say "mapquest it" even when basically everyone was using google.


I do when I am making fun of it.
 
2012-07-06 01:36:55 AM

shower_in_my_socks: Neums: - We're supposed to buy it that in a giant metropolis, the girl Spidey just happens to have a crush on runs the internship program for the villain's lab AND is the daughter of the police captain who hates Spider-man? Even if that matches the comics, it's too much to coincidence to believe when delivered in one damn movie.
Yeah, that was stretching credibility a lot, and it actually didn't occur to me until you mentioned it.


Just the fact that she was working for Spidey's dad's ex-partner, on its own, made me go "Whaaaat?" the minute I saw her there. Then when her dad turned out to be Dennis Leary, I stopped giving a shiat. I actually started figuring out the odds of that happening, I was so taken out of the movie by that time. And I'm not a movie snob - I like mindless big budget CGI-fests as long as they aren't totally defying logic every five minutes.


They went to a science magnet school, and she said she was first in her class. How is it particularly improbable that she would have a part time job at the largest science company in the city? Peter father worked for the largest research company in the city, that also is to be expected. Therefore it really is not all that extraordinary that she would have worked in the same place as his father's partner, the villain. Also, that her dad was the chief of police is neither her nor there - it is not particularly improbable that a chief of police could have an intelligent and overachieving daughter. It is as likely as any other occupation, and slightly more than many.

That both directly related to Spider-man and the plot is lazy, convenient plot-writing, but really significantly less of a test of your suspension of disbelief than anything else in a comic book movie. And is also completely standard in EVERY comic book movie out there. Did you whine about how Rachel Dawson just conveniently became an ADA in Batman? What are the odds of that?
 
2012-07-06 01:40:23 AM

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3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-06 01:51:07 AM
Is this movie as terribly miscast as it looks?

At this point, I'd rather that they do some sort of film version of Ultimate Spider-Man. Maybe cast Donald Glover as Miles Morales.
 
2012-07-06 02:12:21 AM

DeltaPunch: Does anybody actually say "bing it"? I've never heard anybody say that, ever.


Sounded weird to hear the Hawaii Five-O clip utter that phrase. I don't believe I've ever heard it mentioned seriously before.

Reminds me when google maps was starting to surpass mapquest, people would still say "mapquest it" even when basically everyone was using google.

I had a lady on the phone @ work a few weeks ago that said she was "going to mapquest directions to" our store. I laughed pretty hard (on the inside, of course) that she was still stuck in 2004, probably using her sweet brand-new flip phone with a camera built in!

-

Pertaining to the figures in TFA, how much of the increased penetration (heh) does anyone suppose is due to Windows 7? On XP desktops and laptops, for example, what was the default search engine in IE? Probably Yahoo? Or perhaps some goofy MSN homepage with news and all that crap? So now oodles of folks are upgrading to Windows 7 machines, upon hearing that it's way better than Vista, and they probably need better hardware to be able to do some of the fancy new-fangled internet things that their eMachines desktop from 2002 can't. IE is the default browser, and Bing is the default search engine, naturally.

One thing I didn't realize, though, was that Microsoft (and Bing) now fully powers Yahoo Search around the globe. So, do those searches count for Yahoo, or for Bing?
 
2012-07-06 02:18:16 AM
Quick question... Did J Jonah Jameson make an appearance? And if so, was he played by JK Simmons? Because that man was born to play that role.. (that, and Cave Johnson, and the professor in the Farmers Insurance commercials, which I think is just Cave Johnson anyway)
 
2012-07-06 02:20:37 AM
4.bp.blogspot.com
This, this is why I won't see this movie and am dismayed that it appears to be doing well. Give Marvel all of the rights. ALL OF THE RIGHTS. I trust Marvel studios a hell of a lot more than Sony, who is just one coke line away from Spidey 3. Fox also needs to get out of the X-Men business after X-Men 3 and Wolverine. The more money this makes, the less likely Marvel gets their rights back, and the greater the danger for a terrible Spider-man reboot/rights extension movie to get made. Stop buying the knock-offs. Only buy genuine Marvel studios movies!
 
2012-07-06 02:20:53 AM

tgambitg: Did J Jonah Jameson make an appearance? And if so, was he played by JK Simmons? Because that man was born to play that role..



THIS!

Also:

When they had the Heineken product placement in the second Austin Powers movie, I wanted to throw my soda at the screen.
 
2012-07-06 02:21:01 AM

tgambitg: Quick question... Did J Jonah Jameson make an appearance? And if so, was he played by JK Simmons? Because that man was born to play that role.. (that, and Cave Johnson, and the professor in the Farmers Insurance commercials, which I think is just Cave Johnson anyway)


He's not in the film. Although according to IMDB, Webb had asked him to reprise his role originally. So maybe he'll still be JJ in the second film.
 
2012-07-06 02:23:57 AM
Ya, I like Hawaii 5-0, but their product placement REALLY hits you over the head.

Reminds me of when Magic the Gathering came out years ago, They'd pay 50% of your commercial ad if you said "Magic the Gathering" 9 times in 30 seconds.
Barely left any room for saying anything else in the ad.
 
2012-07-06 02:26:15 AM
I use Bing quite a bit but I usually try Goodsearch first. I quit using Google a while back so I could be smug about it on the internet which funnily enough is the same reason I started using it when it first came out.

As far as Spiderman goes- I loved the movie. I do wish they would have taken some time away from the soap opera crap and spent it on the lizard to make him more creepy and making his master plan feel more like a threat. I just never felt like there was enough of a struggle but it was still great.

Also the Raimi Spiderman movies captured the feel of New York, it may have been a fake movie New York that doesn't exist but you still felt like he was in fake movie New York which is part of the charm of Spiderman for me. Not really that big of a deal, I still really liked the movie. Nolan's Gotham has the same problem, it doesn't feel like Gotham but Burton's felt too much like it, almost like a caricature of Gotham.

Don't get mad internet, I love Nolan's Batman.
 
2012-07-06 02:29:37 AM
The problem isn't the product placement. The problem is the product placement that grinds the show to a halt to tell you that the product's being placed. What's the matter with a guy just driving an F-150 past a Coke billboard, then through a McDonald's drive through for a Big Mac and fries? Instead, they have to say, "Hey! Let's get in my F-150 and we can drive to McDonalds for a Big Mac, fries and a Coke!"

/No problem with someone drinking a Coke.
//Problem with someone then saying "Ahh! That Coke was delicious!"
 
2012-07-06 02:33:15 AM

heimdalliii: Did you whine about how Rachel Dawson just conveniently became an ADA in Batman?



Not at all. That was one semi-convenient coincidence, and executed much more naturally. You're telling me you have absolutely no problem buying the 1-in-a-billion odds that one girl in a city of millions just happened to be an intern to the villain, the daughter of the cop who hates Spidey the most, AND Spider-man's girlfriend? Even my five-year-old self would have issues accepting that. It's laughable that you would make such lazy writing MY problem.
 
2012-07-06 02:38:25 AM

Hebalo: You must have been in the bathroom when Ben was talking about doing the right thing just because it's the right thing. And he stopped the guy because he was obviously a criminal, the shop keeper was screaming for someone to stop him.



I wasn't referencing the other talk that Ben had with Peter earlier in the film. I'm talking about when he got shot, he was just f*cking dead. There was no final "moment" between a dying Ben and Peter - it was yet another example of how the Raimi version was superior. And there's a big effing difference between stopping a criminal and wrestling with him over a gun, especially when you don't even know what he's done, and when, from a writing perspective, it wasn't even revealed until that moment that he was even armed.

In the Raimi version, the bad guy uses his gun when he robs the place. It's established then that he's armed. A few moments later, he steals Ben's car, and shoots him during the carjacking. This is infinitely more realistic and more dramatic than in the new version.

For the record, I went into this film pretty excited and willing to make a number of excuses if things didn't add up perfectly. But this script was so mangled that I copmletely lost interest half-way into the film. The acting was solid - they deserved better writing. The whole thing felt rushed into production.
 
2012-07-06 02:41:35 AM
I think the Stan Lee cameo in this movie was the best yet. Most of the time his cameo just feels like it was shoe-horned in without any thought but this time it was pretty good.
 
2012-07-06 02:42:53 AM

blackminded: I loved it, after months of Fark "WORST EVAR!!" threads. I put it second only to Spidey 2. Andrew Garfield was fantastic in the role. Jesus Christ, you guys...


but fark was right this time

and you have bad taste
 
2012-07-06 02:42:54 AM

IlGreven: The problem isn't the product placement. The problem is the product placement that grinds the show to a halt to tell you that the product's being placed. What's the matter with a guy just driving an F-150 past a Coke billboard, then through a McDonald's drive through for a Big Mac and fries? Instead, they have to say, "Hey! Let's get in my F-150 and we can drive to McDonalds for a Big Mac, fries and a Coke!"

/No problem with someone drinking a Coke.
//Problem with someone then saying "Ahh! That Coke was delicious!"


This, exactly. Natural product placement good! Shoved down your throat or laughable, roll your eyes bullshiat dialog, bad! It's best when you barely register it. This was basically that 30 Rock scene about Snapple.
 
2012-07-06 02:47:15 AM
I don't mind product placement as a rule. As a young'un, nothing would take me out of a movie or TV show more than the can that read BEER or COLA on the side. It's ok to have a can of Bud or Pepsi in your hand, as long as you're not saying BUY THIS. And if Bud or Pepsi wants to throw a few bucks your way to offset production costs - why not?

But be CREATIVE about it, fercrissake.

Community did it right. They made Subway a part of an ongoing storyline, and managed to figure out how a Subway logo in the cafeteria would make sense, story-wise. It's not subtle, but they have to do it and they've done it in a way that isn't overtly obvious or distracting.

And then you have those pathetic hacks who write for Hawaii 5-0
 
2012-07-06 02:52:25 AM

Zombie DJ: Ya, I like Hawaii 5-0, but their product placement REALLY hits you over the head.



I haven't had been able to see it lately but the last episode I saw they wrote almost an entire scene about Subway Sandwiches. I don't mind product placement if it feels natural but the lines felt like they were written by Subway, kind of like the lines they make the cashiers say at their restaurants.

I'd rather see real products in a show if they don't go on about it so it takes you out of the story, just like I'd rather hear a real sounding phone number instead of "555"
 
2012-07-06 03:01:03 AM

tgambitg: Quick question... Did J Jonah Jameson make an appearance? And if so, was he played by JK Simmons? Because that man was born to play that role.. (that, and Cave Johnson, and the professor in the Farmers Insurance commercials, which I think is just Cave Johnson anyway)


Hes definitely put more Cave Johnson into the Farmers commercials since Portal 2, he must have really enjoyed that role.

Sad little octopus...
 
2012-07-06 03:05:14 AM

FROGSTOMPER: I think the Stan Lee cameo in this movie was the best yet. Most of the time his cameo just feels like it was shoe-horned in without any thought but this time it was pretty good.

(Spoilers)
I'd disagree. The whole school getting evacuated and Stan Lee stays to dance around in a library. Also in general I had a whole problem with the school scenes, like when the bully was forcing the nerd to eat whatever with a huge crowd chanting behind him. Where are the teachers, the duty aides, or the SROs? If something like that had happened when I was in high school I would have been suspended, if not expelled with the possibility of assault charges being pressed against me.

This would have been less of an issue if Peter Parker hadn't gotten in trouble for breaking the basketball hoop, but no, the one incident of an authority stepping up to do his job and it's for breaking a farking basketball hoop.

The plot of that movie in general was just painful and poorly written. I enjoy foreshadowing, I really do but what they did wasn't farking foreshadowing, it was explaining the plot before it actually happens. Oh that scientist is trying to discover how to regenerate his limb by using animals, of course he's gonna end up being the farking lizard man.

And then the thing that shot the vaccine? Who honestly didn't see that as the major villain's weapon as soon as it was introduced?

There was no subtlety at all and I just felt like I was expected to buy all of the convenient plot points and lazy writing.

Also, Spider-Man broke his promise he made to a dying man to get some pussy. fark this movie
 
2012-07-06 03:09:57 AM

shower_in_my_socks: heimdalliii: Did you whine about how Rachel Dawson just conveniently became an ADA in Batman?


Not at all. That was one semi-convenient coincidence, and executed much more naturally. You're telling me you have absolutely no problem buying the 1-in-a-billion odds that one girl in a city of millions just happened to be an intern to the villain, the daughter of the cop who hates Spidey the most, AND Spider-man's girlfriend? Even my five-year-old self would have issues accepting that. It's laughable that you would make such lazy writing MY problem.


That's the probelm with five year olds, they often don't get how statistics work. The chances of anyone being who they are is far less than "1-in-a-billion". And while I agree *whole-heartedly* that Nolan's Batman was way better written and the convenient coincidences were worked in to the narrative more naturally, that doesn't mean that this one doesn't actually hold up to logical scrutiny.

a) it isn't unreasonable to assume that the son of a scientist at the major science company in a city would end up in a science magnet school, or eventually make his way to that science company.
b) it isn't unreasonable that a chief of police would push his children, or that one of them could be bright enough so that they would end up attending the science magnet school
c) it isn't unreasonable that the girl, if she was top of her class at a science magnet, would get a job at the largest research company in the city. Which would coincidentally be where Spider-man's dad worked, and his partner, now villain works.
d) human attraction is based in large part on exposure. if they went to the same school, and both had completely reasonable connections to the same company and were interested in the same things, it is entirely plausible that they would end up together.
e) comic book plot, science company makes things go wrong, creating spider-man and the villain
f) police chief isn't a fan of a vigilante, go figure

Your problem is that you're phrasing the question as what are the odds of girl being all of those things, which is of course astronomical. But that's not how it works. Work within the premise. Based on what you know about spidey and where and with whom he spends most of his time (science school, research company, crime-fighting), what are the odds of him falling for someone in that group?

It is *far* less likely that a guy who happened to just have gotten super powers would happen to not stop a random criminal who would then kill his uncle who just happened to always prattle on about the responsibilty of those with power. But it is part of the story, part of the premise that is given. And so you accept it.
 
2012-07-06 03:12:20 AM

Trocadero: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 500x600]
This, this is why I won't see this movie and am dismayed that it appears to be doing well. Give Marvel all of the rights. ALL OF THE RIGHTS. I trust Marvel studios a hell of a lot more than Sony, who is just one coke line away from Spidey 3. Fox also needs to get out of the X-Men business after X-Men 3 and Wolverine. The more money this makes, the less likely Marvel gets their rights back, and the greater the danger for a terrible Spider-man reboot/rights extension movie to get made. Stop buying the knock-offs. Only buy genuine Marvel studios movies!


i1089.photobucket.com

FTFY.
 
2012-07-06 03:15:59 AM

tolallorti: Also, Spider-Man broke his promise he made to a dying man to get some pussy. fark this movie


I would happily kill you, my wife, and eight random people on the street for a night with Emma Stone. A half-assed promise to a dying man - UNDER DURESS - sure as hell wouldn't stop me.
 
HBK
2012-07-06 03:39:48 AM

tolallorti:
I had a whole problem with the school scenes, like when the bully was forcing the nerd to eat whatever with a huge crowd chanting behind him. Where are the teachers, the duty aides, or the SROs? If something like that had happened when I was in high school I would have been suspended, if not expelled with the possibility of assault charges being pressed against me.

This would have been less of an issue if Peter Parker hadn't gotten in trouble for breaking the basketball hoop, but no, the one incident of an authority stepping up to do his job and it's for breaking a farking basketball hoop.


You're 18. Things were a lot different when most farkers went too school. In the 70s, 80s, 90s, and early 00s, kids learned to cope with bullies and take care of their own problems. Toughen up, be funny, or get some bigger friends. Back then it was more embarrassing to have a teacher pull a bully off of you than to get your ass kicked.

/AND WE LIKED IT
 
mjg
2012-07-06 03:47:03 AM
Meh. Just waiting for the Zune smart phone with with Bing platform and Myspace app.
 
2012-07-06 03:53:25 AM
tgambitg:

I used Bing once... just to see what it was like. I don't remember what I was searching for, but like the 4th or 5th result was Donkey Porn. I shiat you not.

R-i-i-i-i-ght...we believe you.
 
2012-07-06 03:53:54 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-07-06 04:01:58 AM

HBK: tolallorti:
I had a whole problem with the school scenes, like when the bully was forcing the nerd to eat whatever with a huge crowd chanting behind him. Where are the teachers, the duty aides, or the SROs? If something like that had happened when I was in high school I would have been suspended, if not expelled with the possibility of assault charges being pressed against me.

This would have been less of an issue if Peter Parker hadn't gotten in trouble for breaking the basketball hoop, but no, the one incident of an authority stepping up to do his job and it's for breaking a farking basketball hoop.

You're 18. Things were a lot different when most farkers went too school. In the 70s, 80s, 90s, and early 00s, kids learned to cope with bullies and take care of their own problems. Toughen up, be funny, or get some bigger friends. Back then it was more embarrassing to have a teacher pull a bully off of you than to get your ass kicked.

/AND WE LIKED IT


Exactly, my school you fought it out in the yard, or you put on gloves and got in the ring. Or toughed it up, was funny, or had big friends.
 
2012-07-06 04:14:20 AM

ParanoidAgnostic: The worst product placement was Macy Gray in the first movie.


Followed closely by Maker's Mark. The character who kept imbibing it ended up with (likely) alcohol-induced psychosis at the end. I'm really sure the Maker's Mark people liked the way the movie reminded people of what can happen after consuming too much of their product.
 
2012-07-06 04:16:59 AM

NDP2: ParanoidAgnostic: The worst product placement was Macy Gray in the first movie.

Followed closely by Maker's Mark in the second movie. The character who kept imbibing it ended up with (likely) alcohol-induced psychosis at the end. I'm really sure the Maker's Mark people liked the way the movie reminded people of what can happen after consuming too much of their product.


FIFM (sorry)
 
2012-07-06 04:28:21 AM
 
2012-07-06 04:50:16 AM
When Bing first came out and they had Bing cash back I used the hell out of it. Companies didn't know how to use it, and they would end up doing things like offering 25% Bing cash back on something that was 50% off.
It's how I got my wife her Dyson vacuum. Macy's had a 50% off sale and also had 25% off and a free shipping promo. Then they screwed things up of course, and didn't give me my Bing money. I kept complaining, and eventually, I got it twice :-).

Since they ended the cash back thing though, I have no use what so ever for Bing. It stinks.
 
2012-07-06 05:20:30 AM

PerilousApricot: elvindeath: Seriously - I consider myself pretty computer saavy. I don't think I've ever used Bing in my life. Does anyone ? While we're on the topic, is there anyone out there who actually uses Google+ ?

Must suck to be the latecomer. Just ask the HP Tablet.

It's claimed that they have 150 million daily active users. Take that with a grain of salt, I suppose.


That's because of people like me and Bing rewards. I get a point for every search I do, up to 20 a day. I can then spend those points on Microsoft points for my Xbox.

So every day I go there, click on the popular search links at the bottom until I get my 20 then I leave. I do all my actual searches on Google.
 
2012-07-06 05:44:30 AM

Owangotang: Avatar really is Star Wars done better, believe it or not.


LOL. No. Avatar is a crappy version of Dances with Wolves set in space. It's a pretty movie that's utterly horrible.
 
2012-07-06 06:36:21 AM

madden101: Pertaining to the figures in TFA, how much of the increased penetration (heh) does anyone suppose is due to Windows 7? On XP desktops and laptops, for example, what was the default search engine in IE? Probably Yahoo? Or perhaps some goofy MSN homepage with news and all that crap? So now oodles of folks are upgrading to Windows 7 machines, upon hearing that it's way better than Vista, and they probably need better hardware to be able to do some of the fancy new-fangled internet things that their eMachines desktop from 2002 can't. IE is the default browser, and Bing is the default search engine, naturally.


Bing's OK, but it's the little things with Google. Like if I type in Amazing Spiderman, it gives me showtimes as one of the first results. If I type in tsonga, Google shows me the results from Wimbledon.

The problem with Microsoft is that they just hit everything. It's like "search engines?". Yeah, we'll do that. "phones?" Yeah, we'll do that. And it's all half-assed because they don't care about it enough.
 
2012-07-06 06:36:33 AM

Mugato: Sony is obnoxious with their product placement.


Damn right. Even on the King of Queens. Every laptop is very obviously a Vaio and every TV is very obviously a Sony.
 
2012-07-06 06:58:52 AM
No worse thant this 115 minute long commercial:

livingwithanerd.com
 
2012-07-06 07:00:53 AM

Flint Ironstag: Bing maps is quite cool. For big cities they have birds eye view and views looking north, east etc. So you don't just see the top of a building like Google maps, you can see each side.
Shame it is so jerky in tracking. And doesn't have streetwise, except in a few big cities.


Google maps recently added that feature.
 
2012-07-06 07:10:13 AM
It's funny how Hollywood does such a great job at keeping product names out of TV and film that when one shows up, it stands out like a sore thumb and looks unnatural.
 
2012-07-06 07:14:29 AM

Summoner101: Wolf_Blitzer: Emma Stone is a natural blonde, submitter.

So you're saying the curtains match the drapes?


BIS it to find out.
 
2012-07-06 07:31:06 AM

DeltaPunch: Does anybody actually say "bing it"? I've never heard anybody say that, ever.

Reminds me when google maps was starting to surpass mapquest, people would still say "mapquest it" even when basically everyone was using google.


I still say "I'll mapquest it" before going to Google Maps. Weird. In my mind "mapquest" is a generic term like kleenex.
 
2012-07-06 07:34:50 AM

consider this: It's funny how Hollywood does such a great job at keeping product names out of TV and film that when one shows up, it stands out like a sore thumb and looks unnatural.


But often, it is unnatural.

If you watch Mission Impossible:Ghost Protocol, it's full of Apple products, but at no point is there some lingering shot of one (Brad Bird has stated that Apple paid nothing). You have to look carefully to see the words "Macbook Air". It's also entirely natural that a bunch of hackers on the move would use a Macbook Air.

In some movies, you can tell there was a deal made about time on screen, product in focus, unobscured and so forth. When Skyfall gets released, i guarantee that you'll be in no doubt that Bond drinks Heineken, as they paid $45m.
 
2012-07-06 07:40:25 AM

shower_in_my_socks: The Bing search was a minor distraction compared to everything else that was wrong with the new Spider-man flick.

***SPOILERS***

- A plot that was nearly identical to the first Raimi film, and written so half-assed that it reminded me how great Raimi's take was. No real emotional buildup to anything - stuff just "happens" with no impact. Several plotlines got dropped completely or had no purpose, like The Lizard on the bridge looking for his boss who fired him. Why was he looking for him? Just to kill him? Because he failed and then there was no follow-up. And what about the dying rich guy that the research was supposed to be saving?

- We're supposed to buy it that in a giant metropolis, the girl Spidey just happens to have a crush on runs the internship program for the villain's lab AND is the daughter of the police captain who hates Spider-man? Even if that matches the comics, it's too much to coincidence to believe when delivered in one damn movie.

- So many eye-rolling moments, capped by the stupid crane sequence.

- No compelling villains - the bully at school turns out to be an OK guy after three scenes of being a d!ck, and The Lizard only sort of wants to do bad things, and has a half-baked idea of turning the whole city into lizard people.

The only positives were the actors, who I thought were good, although it was tough to buy the two leads as being high school age (both actors are well into their 20's and look it). And the visual effects were great in 3D.


What are you, 12?
 
2012-07-06 07:42:34 AM
Also, I saw ASM and it was great. looked fantastic, was ok written, lots of fun. Anyone who seriously researches will tell you its not unusual to use Bing AND Google and as many others as you can think of. Using the Internet for research and using only one search engine is like doing your whole paper off wikipedia. Its just stupid.
 
2012-07-06 07:46:10 AM
This thread is missing something important.

www.superphotospace.com



Nope, can't quite figure out what.
 
2012-07-06 07:57:04 AM
BING IT!

theseconddisc.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-06 07:57:32 AM
I liked in Casino Royale...

"You watch, Rolex?"
"Omega."

I expected him to turn to the camera and model it.

What's weird is that and I know this isn't a movie but I assume the principles of pp are the same, in Psych, Sean uses a MacBook and Gus uses a PC laptop. And the joke is probably that Sean is a goofball and Gus is the conservative but you almost never see mixed products like that.
 
2012-07-06 08:01:25 AM

Optimal_Illusion: Disposable Rob: velvet_fog: [i.telegraph.co.uk image 620x388]

[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]

Return Of The Killer Tomatoes had a great Product Placement scene too.


Came for this reference. Leaving satisfied.
 
2012-07-06 08:03:22 AM

elvindeath: While we're on the topic, is there anyone out there who actually uses Google+ ?


I got all worked up about google+ during the invite-only period. I had friends & colleagues with accounts, but I never got an invite. Then, google opened it up to gmail accounts, but my mail account is a google apps account, so it took a few more months before I finally got onto google+.

Then I logged in for the first time, added my friends, and the Boobies I saw was:

"So .... is Google+ still a thing?" dated 4 months earlier.

And no activity since.

Sigh.

/had high hopes because facebook is awful and gets worse with every "upgrade"
 
2012-07-06 08:03:37 AM

bazzanoid: This thread is missing something important.

[www.superphotospace.com image 640x900]



Nope, can't quite figure out what.


Two balls?
 
2012-07-06 08:10:19 AM

GreenAdder: [i.imgur.com image 512x425]
I thought it was a very interesting three-way cross-promotion.


LOL
 
2012-07-06 08:14:13 AM

browntimmy: Thanks everyone for voting with their wallets and telling the studios we want more mediocrity!


Yeah, but it wasn't mediocre. It's actually one of the best super hero movies ever made. Yeah, I want to see Spidey in the Avengers universe too, but wishing ASM was bad or mediocre, doesn't make it true.

Disney is gonna have to pay through the nose if they ever want to get the rights to Spidey back.
 
2012-07-06 08:18:06 AM

fusillade762: chewielouie: equipped with Dbox motion seats seats

You said "seats" twice.


He likes seats.
 
2012-07-06 08:25:54 AM
I saw it yesterday, overall a good movie. But the 2002 version I thought was better except for the special effects, I think Raimi did a better job with the story.
 
2012-07-06 08:26:46 AM
So it was mediocre? I'll watch it then. I was just hoping it wouldn't be bad.
 
2012-07-06 08:31:14 AM
One might argue that the entire movie is product placement, and Spider-man is the product.
 
2012-07-06 08:33:55 AM
Anyone that cares about this should be taken out and shot so as to not spread their idiocy to other generations.
 
2012-07-06 08:42:37 AM

MDGeist: Anyone that cares about this should be taken out and shot so as to not spread their idiocy to other generations.


I wouldn't whine about the "accuracy" of Peter using Bing but product placement can get obnoxious.
 
2012-07-06 08:43:55 AM
this movie is a shameless cash in on something we saw a few years ago. You're sheep for throwing money at it and you should feel bad about yourself. Give the rights back to Marvel and let them make their own movie. Or better yet, let Spiderman rest for a few years.
 
2012-07-06 08:47:36 AM
Spiderman is getting over $200 million in marketing support from various partners hawking anything from cereal to fingernail polish. The biggest complaint I've been hearing about the movie, besides it sucks, is that it concentrated too much on making it feel like a Twilight movie in order to attract girls.

Link
 
2012-07-06 08:53:19 AM

ModernPrimitive01: this movie is a shameless cash in on something we saw a few years ago. You're sheep for throwing money at it and you should feel bad about yourself. Give the rights back to Marvel and let them make their own movie


Doesn't Disney control Marvel? They could probably make Sony an offer that they would accept. It might not be cost effective though.
 
2012-07-06 09:07:31 AM
lotta butthurt in this thread. Movie was good, get over it.
 
2012-07-06 09:09:16 AM
SPOILERS BELOW ...

Instead of shining a spotlight for Spidey to understand how the cranes were set up for him (and how long would that have really taken?), wouldn't it have been more efficient for the helicopter to just give Spidey a ride to Oscorp?

I'm also with those who didn't like Gwen working at Oscorp for Dr. Connors. Just made it way too convenient for lazy writers. And two high school kids came up with the antidote? In the perfect volume, and perfect dispenser to replace the original serum? Under all that pressure? That would probably have been impossible for two Nobel prize winners in Chemistry to do.

Maybe it's stupid, but I can suspend my disbelief for spider powers and lizard cross-genetics more than all the above.

Why was Capt. Stacy the only cop to come up to the top of Oscorp? How did he get there so fast?

And what a dick Peter was for not comforting Gwen after her dad died. What was more important, keeping a promise to a dead guy who doesn't care anymore, or taking care of your grieving gf? At least she was smart enough to figure it out, and he realized at the end that he couldn't keep the promise.

Yes, best Stan Lee cameo ever -- nice touch that he couldn't hear anything, and neither could we.

END SPOILERS

cdn.screenrant.com

Guy who must be most upset about the re-boot is Dylan Baker, who plaid Dr. Curt Connors in the last two Raimi films, but never got to Lizard up.
 
2012-07-06 09:16:28 AM

Shabash: ...Guy who must be most upset about the re-boot is Dylan Baker, who plaid Dr. Curt Connors in the last two Raimi films, but never got to Lizard up.


I like Rhys Ifans, but Dylan Baker would've made an extremely interesting Lizard. I didn't read the books all that much, but was the Lizard a thinking villain or a smashing villain? Plus Dylan Baker has the right balance of earnest and creepy and definitely comes off as a frustrated researcher better. Rhys Ifan's Connors came off as I'm an asshole because I lost my hand or I was an asshole before? Hard to tell.
 
2012-07-06 09:34:35 AM

elvindeath: I don't think I've ever used Bing in my life. Does anyone ?


I don't, but it's because of inertia.

Frankly, though, Google is sucking more and more. The delay between page load and the search box getting focus is frustrating as hell and is what will ultimately cause me to switch to someone else. I don't want 10 million flavors of scripts, I want to start my farking search.
 
2012-07-06 09:36:19 AM
Meh. I rather just see The Avengers again.
 
2012-07-06 09:36:40 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

Longest Fedex commercial EVER!
 
2012-07-06 09:40:13 AM

PYROY: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x307]

Longest Fedex commercial EVER!


I would rather Hanks work for fed-ex (or UPS) than 'kwik-express' or something like that that jerks you out of the movie, wouldnt you?
 
2012-07-06 09:47:46 AM

DeltaPunch: Does anybody actually say "bing it"? I've never heard anybody say that, ever.

Reminds me when google maps was starting to surpass mapquest, people would still say "mapquest it" even when basically everyone was using google.


Everyone at Microsoft does in any official presentation.
 
2012-07-06 09:52:56 AM
I'll say it -- there was one moment of product placement that I absolutely loved: in the newest Star Trek movie, there's a scene at the bar and Uhura pops up to order drinks. Instead of the generic "I'd like two beers, please", she asks for two Buds. I'm pretty sure she also asks for a shot of Jack.

I loved it because this is how people actually ask for actual drinks in an actual bar. No one goes in and says "I'd like a beer" and then has the bartender bring them something. To me, that screams "We're in a movie!!!" almost as much as seeing a phone number with "555" in it.
 
2012-07-06 09:54:10 AM
And I'm betting Gwen dies in the next movie
 
2012-07-06 09:54:44 AM

Summoner101: Wolf_Blitzer: Emma Stone is a natural blonde, submitter.

So you're saying the curtains match the drapes?


How would we even know nowadays ? For 95% of the female population, that'd involve a shaved head.
 
2012-07-06 09:55:39 AM

Smelly McUgly: Is this movie as terribly miscast as it looks?

At this point, I'd rather that they do some sort of film version of Ultimate Spider-Man. Maybe cast Donald Glover as Miles Morales.


Yeah, I'd have to say that was a weakness in the movie. Leary, Sheen and Fields brought absolutely nothing to their roles.
 
2012-07-06 10:02:08 AM

GreenAdder: tgambitg: Quick question... Did J Jonah Jameson make an appearance? And if so, was he played by JK Simmons? Because that man was born to play that role.. (that, and Cave Johnson, and the professor in the Farmers Insurance commercials, which I think is just Cave Johnson anyway)

He's not in the film. Although according to IMDB, Webb had asked him to reprise his role originally. So maybe he'll still be JJ in the second film.


Agreed. I had a feeling that this was going to be a glaring omission, and it was. It was a very good movie, but it went too far in trying to avoid mirroring the Rami versions. In the end, you have a movie that looks great, has a lot of action, but not a lot of fun.
 
2012-07-06 10:03:55 AM

theflatline: HBK: tolallorti:
I had a whole problem with the school scenes, like when the bully was forcing the nerd to eat whatever with a huge crowd chanting behind him. Where are the teachers, the duty aides, or the SROs? If something like that had happened when I was in high school I would have been suspended, if not expelled with the possibility of assault charges being pressed against me.

This would have been less of an issue if Peter Parker hadn't gotten in trouble for breaking the basketball hoop, but no, the one incident of an authority stepping up to do his job and it's for breaking a farking basketball hoop.

You're 18. Things were a lot different when most farkers went too school. In the 70s, 80s, 90s, and early 00s, kids learned to cope with bullies and take care of their own problems. Toughen up, be funny, or get some bigger friends. Back then it was more embarrassing to have a teacher pull a bully off of you than to get your ass kicked.

/AND WE LIKED IT

Exactly, my school you fought it out in the yard, or you put on gloves and got in the ring. Or toughed it up, was funny, or had big friends.


Yes, I can remember making a lot of my best friends by fighting. Sometimes a new kid would come to the neighborhood or you'd meet some new kid at school and you would clash until you finally fought it out. I can remember several occasions I fought with bullies, once a whole gang of us got tired of one and jumped him one day. We didn't get suspended or any thing but the principal made us all hug each other and we ended up laughing about it.

The most trouble we would ever get in would be to have our parents called, that was terrible, especially if the fight was on the bus and the bus driver turned around an took you back to school and your mom had to come pick you up. At least while you and the other kid were waiting outside the principals office you became good buddies.

Now days kids get bullied and they are afraid to do anything about it so the rage just grows and they spend their entire school life drawing pictures of bloody skulls on their Trapperkeepers and crying because they can't get a girlfriend because a bully has robbed them of their confidence. They finally end up either killing a bunch of kids or complaining about a movie they hate on the internet.
 
2012-07-06 10:05:28 AM

FROGSTOMPER: Trapperkeepers


The 80s/90s are over
 
2012-07-06 10:07:24 AM

FreetardoRivera: blackminded: I loved it, after months of Fark "WORST EVAR!!" threads. I put it second only to Spidey 2. Andrew Garfield was fantastic in the role. Jesus Christ, you guys...

but fark was right this time

and you have bad taste


No, Fark was wrong. The movie has its flaws, but it was still pretty good.
 
2012-07-06 10:13:08 AM
Did anyone else notice a slight jump in the film during the scene with the car thief guy?
 
2012-07-06 10:18:41 AM

Mugato: MDGeist: Anyone that cares about this should be taken out and shot so as to not spread their idiocy to other generations.

I wouldn't whine about the "accuracy" of Peter using Bing but product placement can get obnoxious.


The Hawaii Five-O reference to Bing was less than elegant. You fully expected them to give a ninety second tutorial on how great a product it is.

It was awkward and distracting.

Even shoe-horning something in can be done without detracting from the story. We live in a world where products are all around us so seeing them on the screen isn't terribly different than real life.

It can be done seamlessly. It doesn't have to derail the entire flow of the movie.
 
2012-07-06 10:19:10 AM

texdent: FROGSTOMPER: Trapperkeepers

The 80s/90s are over


I saw one of these the other day at an antique store...
image.timepassagesnostalgia.com
I felt old.
 
2012-07-06 10:22:18 AM

tgambitg: MrEricSir: Every once in a blue moon Google is down for a few seconds, so I use Bing instead. It works okay, but not great. I'd give it a C+.

I used Bing once... just to see what it was like. I don't remember what I was searching for, but like the 4th or 5th result was Donkey Porn. I shiat you not.


perhaps you where searching for Donkey Porn??
 
2012-07-06 10:33:58 AM

HBK: Neums: Cosmoboy: Neums: Cosmoboy: shower_in_my_socks: No compelling villains - the bully at school turns out to be an OK guy after three scenes of being a d!ck
Flash is an Ok guy. All he did was tell Peter he was sorry that his uncle died, that's not quite redemption.

Flash is an OK guy when he's an adult, and has overcome alcoholism and the loss of his legs in battle (I want to say Afghanistan). In this movie, he had not character arc to speak of (see my above comment.).

But doesn't the fact that he is empathizing with Peter make him a little more complex? Otherwise you're asking Flash to be a one note character. I can't argue that there wasn't an arc showing the why of that, but I gotta believe that these characters are intended for multi movie arcs.

Right, but it's just too jarring. Flash hates Pete because he's a nerd and he actually has the balls to occasionally stand up to him. Then all of a sudden Ben's dead and he has sensitivity. No go for me.

That actually happened at my school. There was a nerdy sophomore whose fairly nerdy brother was a senior. The sophomore kid got picked on quite a bit. Then the older brother died in a car accident and then everyone was his best friend. The cliquish cool kids were buying him lunch and doing him favors. Some kids are ruthless, others are just dicks but have a heart.

/CSB
//haven't seen the movie, but that scene would've been more real to me than a smart kid using Bing


Actually, that happened to me too. My dad died while I was in high school, and the kids who were pricks to me suddenly wanted to be my best friends.
 
2012-07-06 10:34:50 AM

Neeek: Owangotang: Avatar really is Star Wars done better, believe it or not.

LOL. No. Avatar is a crappy version of Dances with Wolves set in space. It's a pretty movie that's utterly horrible.


QFT, FTW, This, etc. And it's pretty if you like animated movies, but am I insane, thinking I'm the only one who wasn't convinced by the CG? It was pretty in its own way, but it certainly didn't look real to me. It looked like a very well-done animated movie.
 
2012-07-06 10:36:23 AM
I'm not sure if I'm going to this one. I was just going to skip it, but the good reviews are making me think twice. However, no matter how good the 3D is, I'm not going to 3D Imax. I saw Avengers and Prometheus in Imax 3D, and I couldn't farking stand how LOUD it was in the theater. I appreciate hearing the movie, but Christ was that loud.
 
2012-07-06 10:36:49 AM

Mawson of the Antarctic: I didn't read the books all that much, but was the Lizard a thinking villain or a smashing villain?


Been a long time, but I think the Lizard in the comics was both thinking and smashing -- not too different from the film, except he kept his clothes on. Connors was a good guy though -- a college professor -- not a corporate bioresearcher working for a bad guy.
 
2012-07-06 10:40:09 AM

btraz70: tgambitg: MrEricSir: Every once in a blue moon Google is down for a few seconds, so I use Bing instead. It works okay, but not great. I'd give it a C+.

I used Bing once... just to see what it was like. I don't remember what I was searching for, but like the 4th or 5th result was Donkey Porn. I shiat you not.

perhaps you where searching for Donkey Porn??


He was searching for Donkey porn. That is why he gave it a C+, had it come in the first result, it would have been an A.

He didn't come until the 4-5 result, so, C+.

He really likes Donkey porn.

Donkey porn
 
2012-07-06 10:43:27 AM

FROGSTOMPER: texdent: FROGSTOMPER: Trapperkeepers

The 80s/90s are over

I saw one of these the other day at an antique store...
[image.timepassagesnostalgia.com image 640x212]
I felt old.

You

feel old?
 
2012-07-06 10:54:03 AM

midigod: Neeek: Owangotang: Avatar really is Star Wars done better, believe it or not.

LOL. No. Avatar is a crappy version of Dances with Wolves set in space. It's a pretty movie that's utterly horrible.

QFT, FTW, This, etc. And it's pretty if you like animated movies, but am I insane, thinking I'm the only one who wasn't convinced by the CG? It was pretty in its own way, but it certainly didn't look real to me. It looked like a very well-done animated movie.


the environs and tech were absolutely gorgeous. the blue cat people looked like crap. sorry, they did. motion capture be damned, they didn't move convincingly, their skin looked false, and it kept pulling me out of the movie. the tech just wasn't there yet.

the aliens in John Carter looked and moved better.
 
2012-07-06 10:56:53 AM

meanmutton: I'll say it -- there was one moment of product placement that I absolutely loved: in the newest Star Trek movie, there's a scene at the bar and Uhura pops up to order drinks. Instead of the generic "I'd like two beers, please", she asks for two Buds. I'm pretty sure she also asks for a shot of Jack.


I suppose that was better than in Trek IV (the one with the whales when they go back to 1986) and Kirk drinks a Michelob and makes a face like "WTF is this shiat?". Sorry, I can buy that mankind got rid of religion and war and poverty in 300 years but beer? Suspension of disbelief only goes so far.

/he could have made a face because it was shiatty beer but that's not going away either
 
2012-07-06 10:59:32 AM

frepnog: the blue cat people looked like crap. sorry, they did. motion capture be damned, they didn't move convincingly, their skin looked false, and it kept pulling me out of the movie. the tech just wasn't there yet.


You're the first person I heard say that and I agree. They couldn't decide if they wanted to make a Disney cartoon character or something that looks like it belongs in the real world and they missed at both. Although it was kind of cool that you could recognize Sigourney Weaver's. Couldn't place anyone else.
 
2012-07-06 11:00:26 AM
her face that is
 
2012-07-06 11:05:35 AM

Mawson of the Antarctic: Shabash: ...Guy who must be most upset about the re-boot is Dylan Baker, who plaid Dr. Curt Connors in the last two Raimi films, but never got to Lizard up.

I like Rhys Ifans, but Dylan Baker would've made an extremely interesting Lizard. I didn't read the books all that much, but was the Lizard a thinking villain or a smashing villain? Plus Dylan Baker has the right balance of earnest and creepy and definitely comes off as a frustrated researcher better. Rhys Ifan's Connors came off as I'm an asshole because I lost my hand or I was an asshole before? Hard to tell.


I remember the 90's cartoon and the Lizard was a more sympathetic villain comparable to Mr. Freeze. I also remember him not being able to control himself as the Lizard, which gave a nice dichotomy to his well-meaning professor side.
 
2012-07-06 11:08:32 AM

Shabash: SPOILERS BELOW ...

Instead of shining a spotlight for Spidey to understand how the cranes were set up for him (and how long would that have really taken?), wouldn't it have been more efficient for the helicopter to just give Spidey a ride to Oscorp?

I'm also with those who didn't like Gwen working at Oscorp for Dr. Connors. Just made it way too convenient for lazy writers. And two high school kids came up with the antidote? In the perfect volume, and perfect dispenser to replace the original serum? Under all that pressure? That would probably have been impossible for two Nobel prize winners in Chemistry to do.

Maybe it's stupid, but I can suspend my disbelief for spider powers and lizard cross-genetics more than all the above.

Why was Capt. Stacy the only cop to come up to the top of Oscorp? How did he get there so fast?

And what a dick Peter was for not comforting Gwen after her dad died. What was more important, keeping a promise to a dead guy who doesn't care anymore, or taking care of your grieving gf? At least she was smart enough to figure it out, and he realized at the end that he couldn't keep the promise.

Yes, best Stan Lee cameo ever -- nice touch that he couldn't hear anything, and neither could we.

END SPOILERS

[cdn.screenrant.com image 400x300]

Guy who must be most upset about the re-boot is Dylan Baker, who plaid Dr. Curt Connors in the last two Raimi films, but never got to Lizard up.


I don't know, I have to honestly say I really enjoyed the crane scene. Not because of it's obvious cheesiness, but throughout the entire movie if you paid attention it always showed you where Spidey was swinging from, and he was forced to crawl through chunks of the city because it isn't 100% magic skyscraper, unlike the original three. It was a small but nice touch to the movie, as well as the displayed damage he took (Tobi in #2 gets hit by a subway at 2x speed and nothing...it would have killed this incarnation of spiderman).

Stacy used the elevator, clearly, and was there because Spidey told him that's where Gwyn was.

And they didn't magic up the anitdote, they had been doing the research and computer analysis/mode;s for years (as Peter's dad was working with Conner it had to have been at least 10-15 years of research). Gwyn just told the computer to generate the simulated antidote, like Connor was doing to generate the lizard serum. I'm sure she could have done spider/anti-spider or mouse/anti-mouse as well.
 
2012-07-06 11:11:43 AM

Egalitarian: Am I the only freakazoid who thinks Rhys Ifans is hot in a really weird way?


okay I don't think he is hot but one of my favorite movies is "danny deckchair"
 
2012-07-06 11:14:13 AM

chewielouie: No, Fark was wrong. The movie has its flaws, but it was still pretty good.


Agreed. All the whining is about pretty minor stuff. The film is fun, doesn't piss on the legacy of Spider-Man, and the Lizard is by FAR the best villain for Spidey to fight in the film yet.

SPOILERS:


For me, the best scene in the film was the "spider-nest" in the sewer. Perfect.
 
2012-07-06 11:38:19 AM

Mugato: frepnog: the blue cat people looked like crap. sorry, they did. motion capture be damned, they didn't move convincingly, their skin looked false, and it kept pulling me out of the movie. the tech just wasn't there yet.

You're the first person I heard say that and I agree. They couldn't decide if they wanted to make a Disney cartoon character or something that looks like it belongs in the real world and they missed at both. Although it was kind of cool that you could recognize Sigourney Weaver's. Couldn't place anyone else.


i wouldn't say that. worthington's avatar looked just like him... if he was a cat people. the other dude from Grandma's Boy (for the love of got people STOP PUTTING THAT USELESS GUY IN MOVIES. You want to puke? WATCH HATCHET. that movie was everything that sucks about that guy brought to life.) was pretty much the same. Ol cat chick just looked like a generic construct tho. guess it would have been hard to reconcile latin features.
 
2012-07-06 11:47:49 AM

chewielouie: Yeah, I'd have to say that was a weakness in the movie. Leary, Sheen and Fields brought absolutely nothing to their roles.


I actually liked them all and think Leary did a fine job, but Martin Sheen and Sally freaking Fields?? They bring something to their roles the same way Deniro does. They just show the fark up.
 
2012-07-06 11:52:03 AM
I enjoyed it.

/enjoyed me some Emma Stone in high socks...yesssssss
 
2012-07-06 12:15:42 PM

Shabash:
Guy who must be most upset about the re-boot is Dylan Baker, who plaid Dr. Curt Connors in the last two Raimi films, but never got to Lizard up.


Uh, what?

i979.photobucket.com

/to serve and correct
 
2012-07-06 12:25:25 PM

DeltaPunch: Does anybody actually say "bing it"? I've never heard anybody say that, ever.

Reminds me when google maps was starting to surpass mapquest, people would still say "mapquest it" even when basically everyone was using google.


Except now on the iPhone, Mapquest is way better than the shait version of Google Maps that is standard. And it's FREE!

I'm curious if existing devices will get upgraded to TomTom when the next version of iOS comes out.
 
2012-07-06 12:30:45 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: The Glades, and all the shows on USA and SyFy do this all the time
/Even have the actors talk specs about the product


Bones does it all the time too.

/Ford
 
2012-07-06 12:43:30 PM

spacemanjones: Cosmoboy: styckx: Can someone explain to me why a movie that first came out 10 years ago needs a remake telling the same exact farking story? The original 2002 movie still holds up extremely well and so do the followups. Not even being snarky I just don't get why anyone would be retarded enough to pay for the same story again.

It didn't really, but they bring in Gwen and Captain Stacy!!! I also thought they did a better job with the Uncle Ben issue, and they dropped the cheesy wrestling gig. I would have been perfectly happy with a continuation, but this new continuity is one I'm looking forward to now.

If you were born in 2002 and are a boy, you are now a 10 year old boy. 10 year old boys dig the shiat out of Spiderman. This is a new movie to them that has nothing to do with the other movie. 10 year old. It's like toys. Parents buy them toys. All that equals The Amazing Spiderman. Expect a new Batman in 5-7 years.


You're right about Batman, but possibly not for the reason you think you are. They're already talking about a Batman reboot so they can eventually have a "Justice League" movie and Nolan's version of Bats wouldn't really fit.
 
2012-07-06 12:44:28 PM

Hawnkee: No worse thant this 115 minute long commercial:

[livingwithanerd.com image 618x528]


Meh. Chuck Taylors are awesome. They were awesome before that. I can buy it. The same way a lot of people today go out of their way to buy old watches.
 
2012-07-06 12:48:35 PM

pinchpoint: drjekel_mrhyde: The Glades, and all the shows on USA and SyFy do this all the time
/Even have the actors talk specs about the product

Bones does it all the time too.

/Ford


They thankfully backed off this past season, but the season before, it was like a series of Toyota commercials with a recurring cast. The auto parking one was by far the worst, but the "beeps when you leave the lane" one was also pretty egregious.

Show me the logo ten times an episode, I'm OK. That's product placement. If it hijacks the plot, that's where I draw the line.

/Also don't buy that Brennan would go from a Benz roadster to a Prius, but that's a quibble.
 
2012-07-06 12:58:37 PM

KierzanDax: DeltaPunch: Does anybody actually say "bing it"? I've never heard anybody say that, ever.

Reminds me when google maps was starting to surpass mapquest, people would still say "mapquest it" even when basically everyone was using google.

Except now on the iPhone, Mapquest is way better than the shait version of Google Maps that is standard. And it's FREE!

I'm curious if existing devices will get upgraded to TomTom when the next version of iOS comes out.


You haven't peen paying attention to the iOS 6 news, I take it?
 
2012-07-06 01:39:28 PM

elvindeath: Seriously - I consider myself pretty computer saavy. I don't think I've ever used Bing in my life. Does anyone ? While we're on the topic, is there anyone out there who actually uses Google+ ?

Must suck to be the latecomer. Just ask the HP Tablet.


Bing.com/travel has a price predictor that's excellent.
 
2012-07-06 01:49:23 PM

Summoner101: Wolf_Blitzer: Emma Stone is a natural blonde, submitter.

So you're saying the curtains carpet matches the drapes?


/FTFY
 
2012-07-06 01:54:36 PM

taliesinwi: pinchpoint: drjekel_mrhyde: The Glades, and all the shows on USA and SyFy do this all the time
/Even have the actors talk specs about the product

Bones does it all the time too.

/Ford

They thankfully backed off this past season, but the season before, it was like a series of Toyota commercials with a recurring cast. The auto parking one was by far the worst, but the "beeps when you leave the lane" one was also pretty egregious.

Show me the logo ten times an episode, I'm OK. That's product placement. If it hijacks the plot, that's where I draw the line.

/Also don't buy that Brennan would go from a Benz roadster to a Prius, but that's a quibble.


Way more practical car than a benz roadster. I totally beli-DING!-
what's that?
Oh that is the optional thingadinger now available only on the Toyota Prius for 2012. It does all these best things and goes "Ding!", dropping a Toyota commercial right in the middle of my amusingly witty deprecation of people whose IQs are below 170.
On the other hand, when I get a new car, I can't wait to show off all the cool things it does, so the only reason it jars is because we know it's an ad.

/IQ below 170
 
2012-07-06 01:56:45 PM
I remember when the Lizard was Gwen Stay's dad...

Link
 
2012-07-06 02:34:23 PM

Hebalo: chewielouie: No, Fark was wrong. The movie has its flaws, but it was still pretty good.

Agreed. All the whining is about pretty minor stuff. The film is fun, doesn't piss on the legacy of Spider-Man, and the Lizard is by FAR the best villain for Spidey to fight in the film yet.

SPOILERS:


For me, the best scene in the film was the "spider-nest" in the sewer. Perfect.


The Dbox motion seats shined during that scene. I was waiting for the right movie to spend the extra coin to experience them. It was a good call.
 
2012-07-06 03:21:09 PM
Chevello:
On the other hand, when I get a new car, I can't wait to show off all the cool things it does, so the only reason it jars is because we know it's an ad.

Of course you do. But usually within days (if not minutes) of buying said car, and generally all at one time - even if you're dropping your convertible top in the middle of winter just to show it off. You're not spreading it out opportunistically over the course of the next few months. By then you're not really bragging about features in your car anymore.

And frankly I knew it was an ad because it was jarring, not the other way around.
 
2012-07-06 04:29:17 PM

Madbassist1: chewielouie: Yeah, I'd have to say that was a weakness in the movie. Leary, Sheen and Fields brought absolutely nothing to their roles.

I actually liked them all and think Leary did a fine job, but Martin Sheen and Sally freaking Fields?? They bring something to their roles the same way Deniro does. They just show the fark up.


They should have kept Aunt May she was fantastic in the first 3 movies. The didn't have a choice of keeping Cliff Robertson.

did anyone notice that Sally Field i believe her final sense was wearing a United (something) workers t shirt under her sweater.

it seemed that Uncle Ben and Aunt May had some bucks in this movie, buying organic eggs, their stove appears to be a Viking or something similar.

I enjoyed the movie but felt it didn't seem to have the "fun and sarcasm" that is spiderman.

Stan Lee's part is fantastic and I agree is his best one so far, I still like the "hey hef" in Iron Man lol

now will get this from gwen?
 
2012-07-06 04:29:58 PM

Waldo Pepper: Madbassist1: chewielouie: Yeah, I'd have to say that was a weakness in the movie. Leary, Sheen and Fields brought absolutely nothing to their roles.

I actually liked them all and think Leary did a fine job, but Martin Sheen and Sally freaking Fields?? They bring something to their roles the same way Deniro does. They just show the fark up.

They should have kept Aunt May she was fantastic in the first 3 movies. The didn't have a choice of keeping Cliff Robertson.

did anyone notice that Sally Field i believe her final sense was wearing a United (something) workers t shirt under her sweater.

it seemed that Uncle Ben and Aunt May had some bucks in this movie, buying organic eggs, their stove appears to be a Viking or something similar.

I enjoyed the movie but felt it didn't seem to have the "fun and sarcasm" that is spiderman.

Stan Lee's part is fantastic and I agree is his best one so far, I still like the "hey hef" in Iron Man lol

now will get this from gwen?


oops this Link
 
2012-07-06 04:56:37 PM

Smelly McUgly: Maybe cast Donald Glover as Miles Morales.


You're aware of the fact that Miles is 13, yes? As much as I like Glover, he's waaaay too old for the part.
 
2012-07-06 04:59:33 PM
Why are you people seeing this movie? STOP IT.

Marvel Studios needs to be in charge of Spider-Man. Look at how awesome Avengers was... And think of what could have been if Marvel Comics hadn't sold the Spider-Man film rights in their desperation years ago.

Sony should stick to making computers and Playstations, and stop making superhero movies that crap on the source material.
 
2012-07-06 05:27:55 PM

taliesinwi: Chevello:
On the other hand, when I get a new car, I can't wait to show off all the cool things it does, so the only reason it jars is because we know it's an ad.

Of course you do. But usually within days (if not minutes) of buying said car, and generally all at one time - even if you're dropping your convertible top in the middle of winter just to show it off. You're not spreading it out opportunistically over the course of the next few months. By then you're not really bragging about features in your car anymore.

And frankly I knew it was an ad because it was jarring, not the other way around.


Either way. Jarring. Too much ad. After this discussion I'll be looking for it when I watch Spider-Man now anyways. Thanks Fark.
 
2012-07-06 05:28:25 PM
The reason Jesus hasn't had His Second Coming is that even HE can't live up to the fanboy hype. Same goes for comic book properties. No one is ever fully satisfied. I wasn't, but I was enough to pay to see it in the theater with my boys, who enjoyed it thoroughly. Like Kirk said to Scotty, "Young minds, fresh ideas, be tolerant."

I liked the original 2002 version for different reasons than I liked this one. Better actor, better effects, better overall merging of old and new Spidey concepts. I do agree with others that they cut way too many side plots out for my taste, which left a number of glaring holes. I can see movies becoming more like that, if only to really flesh out BluRay sales with all the added-in content. That should be a 3-hour movie when all is said and done for home video.

Emma Stone, regardless of the convenience of her character (she was a science geek in the comic, lest we forget) was an excellent casting choice. I actually felt chemistry between these two actors vs. the absolute idiocy that was Maguire/Dunst pairing up. Seeing Kirsten chew her way through scenery ruined it for me.

I do agree that Denis Leary needs to seek life elsewhere, simply because he plays himself in everything he does. Gets old, and while he can add humor to the scene, I didn't care for how he was all "oh, shiat, you're actually Peter Parker, please go save the city now that I've got you surrounded and cuffed" minutes after he was decrying Spider-Man as a dangerous vigilante.
 
2012-07-06 05:54:40 PM

Mawson of the Antarctic: I agree that the movie was a non-entity for me. I couldn't care at all for the characters and everything felt disposable. A scene that really stuck out for me was the crane jump, Assassins Creed edition. Hell, they even did a spotlight thing and basically walked you through what you had to do.

The Sam Raimi movies were for fans who read the comics. The Marc Webb movie was for those who played the game based on the comics. Hell, most of the movie broke down to action-cutscene-action.

SPOILER the fact that Peter just gave up on looking for his Uncle's killer didn't sit well with me-hell, there were a dozen plots that were started and just dropped. Came off as a big "Whatev, dude."

Prometheus sucked, this sucked... TDKR better bring it or it'll be a bleak summer.


I think the thing that sucked about Prometheus... Well a couple things in my view.
-They tried way to hard to tie it to the Aliens franchise, it didn't need to be, hints instead of "HEY LOOK ALIENS!" and maybe explain some shiat. I think they didn't want to explain anything that might conflict with Alien canon.
-The Scientists being stupid pisses me off. "Oh look breathable atmosphere, BREATHE IT!" I would've been fine with something breaking and forcing them to do it, but that was such a stupid thing to do.
-They needed actual scientists to consult , Hollywood scientists piss me off.
 
2012-07-06 06:03:59 PM
Unless I missed it, this thread deserves -2000 points for having a thread about spiderman product placement and note posting this image...

img405.imageshack.us
 
2012-07-06 06:31:09 PM

SamFlagg: Unless I missed it, this thread deserves -2000 points for having a thread about spiderman product placement and note posting this image...

[img405.imageshack.us image 400x266]


but dude that is dr pepper so it is allowed. I would have preferred cheerwine lol
 
2012-07-06 06:57:05 PM

Neums: Smelly McUgly: Maybe cast Donald Glover as Miles Morales.

You're aware of the fact that Miles is 13, yes? As much as I like Glover, he's waaaay too old for the part.


Yep, but that hasn't stopped a movie studio from casting older actors for younger parts before. Just accelerate things so that the story picks up six years after Morales was bitten if need be.
 
2012-07-06 07:21:53 PM

Smelly McUgly: Neums: Smelly McUgly: Maybe cast Donald Glover as Miles Morales.

You're aware of the fact that Miles is 13, yes? As much as I like Glover, he's waaaay too old for the part.

Yep, but that hasn't stopped a movie studio from casting older actors for younger parts before. Just accelerate things so that the story picks up six years after Morales was bitten if need be.


Then it's nothing like the story it'd be based on. Ultimate Spider-Man now is about a child being thrust into the grown up world and learning responsibility. If you jump forward, he's pretty much learned what he needed to learn in those intervening years, so there's no point to it.
 
2012-07-06 07:48:49 PM

ZeroCorpse: Why are you people seeing this movie? STOP IT.

Marvel Studios needs to be in charge of Spider-Man. Look at how awesome Avengers was... And think of what could have been if Marvel Comics hadn't sold the Spider-Man film rights in their desperation years ago.

Sony should stick to making computers and Playstations, and stop making superhero movies that crap on the source material.


It didn't. It was good. Your not-having-seen-the-movie opinion is pretty irrelevant,
 
2012-07-06 08:37:04 PM
I'm just surprised that they went with The Lizard as the villain. Normally movies always go with the most well-known and obvious villains in the first movie.

The new Batman series did buck that trend with Scarecrow and Ras-Al-Gul, though. Still disappointed that we haven't had a cinematic appearance by Killer Croc or Solomon Grundy.

/maybe in the Justice League movie
 
2012-07-06 10:16:54 PM

Mugato:

What's weird is that and I know this isn't a movie but I assume the principles of pp are the same, in Psych, Sean uses a MacBook and Gus uses a PC laptop. And the joke is probably that Sean is a goofball and Gus is the conservative but you almost never see mixed products like that.


*cough*
 
2012-07-06 11:26:49 PM
(spoiler)

My biggest issue with the movie came about halfway through, when the guy told Conner, more or less, that since Osborn was dying, if they didn't do the human tests RIGHT NOW, that he was fired/would be killed/whatever, just like what happened to Peter's dad 10 or 15 years earlier, since he didn't... do... the thing that needed to be done... So Osborn's illness/whatever was going on for 15 years, and he's been waiting for this for that long, but can't wait for the animal and then human tests? I mean, I get the "Oh noes, I'm dying now!" but why have an issue with it the first time around 15 years earlier, since it obviously wasn't (at the time, or maybe isn't now) an immediate threat?
 
2012-07-07 04:22:42 AM

Neums: Smelly McUgly: Neums: Smelly McUgly: Maybe cast Donald Glover as Miles Morales.

You're aware of the fact that Miles is 13, yes? As much as I like Glover, he's waaaay too old for the part.

Yep, but that hasn't stopped a movie studio from casting older actors for younger parts before. Just accelerate things so that the story picks up six years after Morales was bitten if need be.

Then it's nothing like the story it'd be based on. Ultimate Spider-Man now is about a child being thrust into the grown up world and learning responsibility. If you jump forward, he's pretty much learned what he needed to learn in those intervening years, so there's no point to it.


No, the point would be to get Donald Glover on-screen playing Spider-Man. Dammit.
 
2012-07-07 04:52:08 AM
Saw the movie today and honestly, I didn't notice any placements. Do people go to movies looking for them or something?
 
2012-07-07 09:13:07 AM
Find one in every car. You'll see.
cache.gawker.com
 
2012-07-07 12:24:37 PM

PerilousApricot: elvindeath: Seriously - I consider myself pretty computer saavy. I don't think I've ever used Bing in my life. Does anyone ? While we're on the topic, is there anyone out there who actually uses Google+ ?

Must suck to be the latecomer. Just ask the HP Tablet.

It's claimed that they have 150 million daily active users. Take that with a grain of salt, I suppose.


That's because sometimes Bing just forces itself on people. I make a point to go to Google when that happens. Tried to use Bing a couple of times and it was awful, but I hate that somehow it just pops up sometimes.
 
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