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2012-07-06 09:16:28 AM  

Shabash: ...Guy who must be most upset about the re-boot is Dylan Baker, who plaid Dr. Curt Connors in the last two Raimi films, but never got to Lizard up.


I like Rhys Ifans, but Dylan Baker would've made an extremely interesting Lizard. I didn't read the books all that much, but was the Lizard a thinking villain or a smashing villain? Plus Dylan Baker has the right balance of earnest and creepy and definitely comes off as a frustrated researcher better. Rhys Ifan's Connors came off as I'm an asshole because I lost my hand or I was an asshole before? Hard to tell.
 
2012-07-06 09:34:35 AM  

elvindeath: I don't think I've ever used Bing in my life. Does anyone ?


I don't, but it's because of inertia.

Frankly, though, Google is sucking more and more. The delay between page load and the search box getting focus is frustrating as hell and is what will ultimately cause me to switch to someone else. I don't want 10 million flavors of scripts, I want to start my farking search.
 
2012-07-06 09:36:19 AM  
Meh. I rather just see The Avengers again.
 
2012-07-06 09:36:40 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Longest Fedex commercial EVER!
 
2012-07-06 09:40:13 AM  

PYROY: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x307]

Longest Fedex commercial EVER!


I would rather Hanks work for fed-ex (or UPS) than 'kwik-express' or something like that that jerks you out of the movie, wouldnt you?
 
2012-07-06 09:47:46 AM  

DeltaPunch: Does anybody actually say "bing it"? I've never heard anybody say that, ever.

Reminds me when google maps was starting to surpass mapquest, people would still say "mapquest it" even when basically everyone was using google.


Everyone at Microsoft does in any official presentation.
 
2012-07-06 09:52:56 AM  
I'll say it -- there was one moment of product placement that I absolutely loved: in the newest Star Trek movie, there's a scene at the bar and Uhura pops up to order drinks. Instead of the generic "I'd like two beers, please", she asks for two Buds. I'm pretty sure she also asks for a shot of Jack.

I loved it because this is how people actually ask for actual drinks in an actual bar. No one goes in and says "I'd like a beer" and then has the bartender bring them something. To me, that screams "We're in a movie!!!" almost as much as seeing a phone number with "555" in it.
 
2012-07-06 09:54:10 AM  
And I'm betting Gwen dies in the next movie
 
2012-07-06 09:54:44 AM  

Summoner101: Wolf_Blitzer: Emma Stone is a natural blonde, submitter.

So you're saying the curtains match the drapes?


How would we even know nowadays ? For 95% of the female population, that'd involve a shaved head.
 
2012-07-06 09:55:39 AM  

Smelly McUgly: Is this movie as terribly miscast as it looks?

At this point, I'd rather that they do some sort of film version of Ultimate Spider-Man. Maybe cast Donald Glover as Miles Morales.


Yeah, I'd have to say that was a weakness in the movie. Leary, Sheen and Fields brought absolutely nothing to their roles.
 
2012-07-06 10:02:08 AM  

GreenAdder: tgambitg: Quick question... Did J Jonah Jameson make an appearance? And if so, was he played by JK Simmons? Because that man was born to play that role.. (that, and Cave Johnson, and the professor in the Farmers Insurance commercials, which I think is just Cave Johnson anyway)

He's not in the film. Although according to IMDB, Webb had asked him to reprise his role originally. So maybe he'll still be JJ in the second film.


Agreed. I had a feeling that this was going to be a glaring omission, and it was. It was a very good movie, but it went too far in trying to avoid mirroring the Rami versions. In the end, you have a movie that looks great, has a lot of action, but not a lot of fun.
 
2012-07-06 10:03:55 AM  

theflatline: HBK: tolallorti:
I had a whole problem with the school scenes, like when the bully was forcing the nerd to eat whatever with a huge crowd chanting behind him. Where are the teachers, the duty aides, or the SROs? If something like that had happened when I was in high school I would have been suspended, if not expelled with the possibility of assault charges being pressed against me.

This would have been less of an issue if Peter Parker hadn't gotten in trouble for breaking the basketball hoop, but no, the one incident of an authority stepping up to do his job and it's for breaking a farking basketball hoop.

You're 18. Things were a lot different when most farkers went too school. In the 70s, 80s, 90s, and early 00s, kids learned to cope with bullies and take care of their own problems. Toughen up, be funny, or get some bigger friends. Back then it was more embarrassing to have a teacher pull a bully off of you than to get your ass kicked.

/AND WE LIKED IT

Exactly, my school you fought it out in the yard, or you put on gloves and got in the ring. Or toughed it up, was funny, or had big friends.


Yes, I can remember making a lot of my best friends by fighting. Sometimes a new kid would come to the neighborhood or you'd meet some new kid at school and you would clash until you finally fought it out. I can remember several occasions I fought with bullies, once a whole gang of us got tired of one and jumped him one day. We didn't get suspended or any thing but the principal made us all hug each other and we ended up laughing about it.

The most trouble we would ever get in would be to have our parents called, that was terrible, especially if the fight was on the bus and the bus driver turned around an took you back to school and your mom had to come pick you up. At least while you and the other kid were waiting outside the principals office you became good buddies.

Now days kids get bullied and they are afraid to do anything about it so the rage just grows and they spend their entire school life drawing pictures of bloody skulls on their Trapperkeepers and crying because they can't get a girlfriend because a bully has robbed them of their confidence. They finally end up either killing a bunch of kids or complaining about a movie they hate on the internet.
 
2012-07-06 10:05:28 AM  

FROGSTOMPER: Trapperkeepers


The 80s/90s are over
 
2012-07-06 10:07:24 AM  

FreetardoRivera: blackminded: I loved it, after months of Fark "WORST EVAR!!" threads. I put it second only to Spidey 2. Andrew Garfield was fantastic in the role. Jesus Christ, you guys...

but fark was right this time

and you have bad taste


No, Fark was wrong. The movie has its flaws, but it was still pretty good.
 
2012-07-06 10:13:08 AM  
Did anyone else notice a slight jump in the film during the scene with the car thief guy?
 
2012-07-06 10:18:41 AM  

Mugato: MDGeist: Anyone that cares about this should be taken out and shot so as to not spread their idiocy to other generations.

I wouldn't whine about the "accuracy" of Peter using Bing but product placement can get obnoxious.


The Hawaii Five-O reference to Bing was less than elegant. You fully expected them to give a ninety second tutorial on how great a product it is.

It was awkward and distracting.

Even shoe-horning something in can be done without detracting from the story. We live in a world where products are all around us so seeing them on the screen isn't terribly different than real life.

It can be done seamlessly. It doesn't have to derail the entire flow of the movie.
 
2012-07-06 10:19:10 AM  

texdent: FROGSTOMPER: Trapperkeepers

The 80s/90s are over


I saw one of these the other day at an antique store...
image.timepassagesnostalgia.com
I felt old.
 
2012-07-06 10:22:18 AM  

tgambitg: MrEricSir: Every once in a blue moon Google is down for a few seconds, so I use Bing instead. It works okay, but not great. I'd give it a C+.

I used Bing once... just to see what it was like. I don't remember what I was searching for, but like the 4th or 5th result was Donkey Porn. I shiat you not.


perhaps you where searching for Donkey Porn??
 
2012-07-06 10:33:58 AM  

HBK: Neums: Cosmoboy: Neums: Cosmoboy: shower_in_my_socks: No compelling villains - the bully at school turns out to be an OK guy after three scenes of being a d!ck
Flash is an Ok guy. All he did was tell Peter he was sorry that his uncle died, that's not quite redemption.

Flash is an OK guy when he's an adult, and has overcome alcoholism and the loss of his legs in battle (I want to say Afghanistan). In this movie, he had not character arc to speak of (see my above comment.).

But doesn't the fact that he is empathizing with Peter make him a little more complex? Otherwise you're asking Flash to be a one note character. I can't argue that there wasn't an arc showing the why of that, but I gotta believe that these characters are intended for multi movie arcs.

Right, but it's just too jarring. Flash hates Pete because he's a nerd and he actually has the balls to occasionally stand up to him. Then all of a sudden Ben's dead and he has sensitivity. No go for me.

That actually happened at my school. There was a nerdy sophomore whose fairly nerdy brother was a senior. The sophomore kid got picked on quite a bit. Then the older brother died in a car accident and then everyone was his best friend. The cliquish cool kids were buying him lunch and doing him favors. Some kids are ruthless, others are just dicks but have a heart.

/CSB
//haven't seen the movie, but that scene would've been more real to me than a smart kid using Bing


Actually, that happened to me too. My dad died while I was in high school, and the kids who were pricks to me suddenly wanted to be my best friends.
 
2012-07-06 10:34:50 AM  

Neeek: Owangotang: Avatar really is Star Wars done better, believe it or not.

LOL. No. Avatar is a crappy version of Dances with Wolves set in space. It's a pretty movie that's utterly horrible.


QFT, FTW, This, etc. And it's pretty if you like animated movies, but am I insane, thinking I'm the only one who wasn't convinced by the CG? It was pretty in its own way, but it certainly didn't look real to me. It looked like a very well-done animated movie.
 
2012-07-06 10:36:23 AM  
I'm not sure if I'm going to this one. I was just going to skip it, but the good reviews are making me think twice. However, no matter how good the 3D is, I'm not going to 3D Imax. I saw Avengers and Prometheus in Imax 3D, and I couldn't farking stand how LOUD it was in the theater. I appreciate hearing the movie, but Christ was that loud.
 
2012-07-06 10:36:49 AM  

Mawson of the Antarctic: I didn't read the books all that much, but was the Lizard a thinking villain or a smashing villain?


Been a long time, but I think the Lizard in the comics was both thinking and smashing -- not too different from the film, except he kept his clothes on. Connors was a good guy though -- a college professor -- not a corporate bioresearcher working for a bad guy.
 
2012-07-06 10:40:09 AM  

btraz70: tgambitg: MrEricSir: Every once in a blue moon Google is down for a few seconds, so I use Bing instead. It works okay, but not great. I'd give it a C+.

I used Bing once... just to see what it was like. I don't remember what I was searching for, but like the 4th or 5th result was Donkey Porn. I shiat you not.

perhaps you where searching for Donkey Porn??


He was searching for Donkey porn. That is why he gave it a C+, had it come in the first result, it would have been an A.

He didn't come until the 4-5 result, so, C+.

He really likes Donkey porn.

Donkey porn
 
2012-07-06 10:43:27 AM  

FROGSTOMPER: texdent: FROGSTOMPER: Trapperkeepers

The 80s/90s are over

I saw one of these the other day at an antique store...
[image.timepassagesnostalgia.com image 640x212]
I felt old.

You

feel old?
 
2012-07-06 10:54:03 AM  

midigod: Neeek: Owangotang: Avatar really is Star Wars done better, believe it or not.

LOL. No. Avatar is a crappy version of Dances with Wolves set in space. It's a pretty movie that's utterly horrible.

QFT, FTW, This, etc. And it's pretty if you like animated movies, but am I insane, thinking I'm the only one who wasn't convinced by the CG? It was pretty in its own way, but it certainly didn't look real to me. It looked like a very well-done animated movie.


the environs and tech were absolutely gorgeous. the blue cat people looked like crap. sorry, they did. motion capture be damned, they didn't move convincingly, their skin looked false, and it kept pulling me out of the movie. the tech just wasn't there yet.

the aliens in John Carter looked and moved better.
 
2012-07-06 10:56:53 AM  

meanmutton: I'll say it -- there was one moment of product placement that I absolutely loved: in the newest Star Trek movie, there's a scene at the bar and Uhura pops up to order drinks. Instead of the generic "I'd like two beers, please", she asks for two Buds. I'm pretty sure she also asks for a shot of Jack.


I suppose that was better than in Trek IV (the one with the whales when they go back to 1986) and Kirk drinks a Michelob and makes a face like "WTF is this shiat?". Sorry, I can buy that mankind got rid of religion and war and poverty in 300 years but beer? Suspension of disbelief only goes so far.

/he could have made a face because it was shiatty beer but that's not going away either
 
2012-07-06 10:59:32 AM  

frepnog: the blue cat people looked like crap. sorry, they did. motion capture be damned, they didn't move convincingly, their skin looked false, and it kept pulling me out of the movie. the tech just wasn't there yet.


You're the first person I heard say that and I agree. They couldn't decide if they wanted to make a Disney cartoon character or something that looks like it belongs in the real world and they missed at both. Although it was kind of cool that you could recognize Sigourney Weaver's. Couldn't place anyone else.
 
2012-07-06 11:00:26 AM  
her face that is
 
2012-07-06 11:05:35 AM  

Mawson of the Antarctic: Shabash: ...Guy who must be most upset about the re-boot is Dylan Baker, who plaid Dr. Curt Connors in the last two Raimi films, but never got to Lizard up.

I like Rhys Ifans, but Dylan Baker would've made an extremely interesting Lizard. I didn't read the books all that much, but was the Lizard a thinking villain or a smashing villain? Plus Dylan Baker has the right balance of earnest and creepy and definitely comes off as a frustrated researcher better. Rhys Ifan's Connors came off as I'm an asshole because I lost my hand or I was an asshole before? Hard to tell.


I remember the 90's cartoon and the Lizard was a more sympathetic villain comparable to Mr. Freeze. I also remember him not being able to control himself as the Lizard, which gave a nice dichotomy to his well-meaning professor side.
 
2012-07-06 11:08:32 AM  

Shabash: SPOILERS BELOW ...

Instead of shining a spotlight for Spidey to understand how the cranes were set up for him (and how long would that have really taken?), wouldn't it have been more efficient for the helicopter to just give Spidey a ride to Oscorp?

I'm also with those who didn't like Gwen working at Oscorp for Dr. Connors. Just made it way too convenient for lazy writers. And two high school kids came up with the antidote? In the perfect volume, and perfect dispenser to replace the original serum? Under all that pressure? That would probably have been impossible for two Nobel prize winners in Chemistry to do.

Maybe it's stupid, but I can suspend my disbelief for spider powers and lizard cross-genetics more than all the above.

Why was Capt. Stacy the only cop to come up to the top of Oscorp? How did he get there so fast?

And what a dick Peter was for not comforting Gwen after her dad died. What was more important, keeping a promise to a dead guy who doesn't care anymore, or taking care of your grieving gf? At least she was smart enough to figure it out, and he realized at the end that he couldn't keep the promise.

Yes, best Stan Lee cameo ever -- nice touch that he couldn't hear anything, and neither could we.

END SPOILERS

[cdn.screenrant.com image 400x300]

Guy who must be most upset about the re-boot is Dylan Baker, who plaid Dr. Curt Connors in the last two Raimi films, but never got to Lizard up.


I don't know, I have to honestly say I really enjoyed the crane scene. Not because of it's obvious cheesiness, but throughout the entire movie if you paid attention it always showed you where Spidey was swinging from, and he was forced to crawl through chunks of the city because it isn't 100% magic skyscraper, unlike the original three. It was a small but nice touch to the movie, as well as the displayed damage he took (Tobi in #2 gets hit by a subway at 2x speed and nothing...it would have killed this incarnation of spiderman).

Stacy used the elevator, clearly, and was there because Spidey told him that's where Gwyn was.

And they didn't magic up the anitdote, they had been doing the research and computer analysis/mode;s for years (as Peter's dad was working with Conner it had to have been at least 10-15 years of research). Gwyn just told the computer to generate the simulated antidote, like Connor was doing to generate the lizard serum. I'm sure she could have done spider/anti-spider or mouse/anti-mouse as well.
 
2012-07-06 11:14:13 AM  

chewielouie: No, Fark was wrong. The movie has its flaws, but it was still pretty good.


Agreed. All the whining is about pretty minor stuff. The film is fun, doesn't piss on the legacy of Spider-Man, and the Lizard is by FAR the best villain for Spidey to fight in the film yet.

SPOILERS:


For me, the best scene in the film was the "spider-nest" in the sewer. Perfect.
 
2012-07-06 11:38:19 AM  

Mugato: frepnog: the blue cat people looked like crap. sorry, they did. motion capture be damned, they didn't move convincingly, their skin looked false, and it kept pulling me out of the movie. the tech just wasn't there yet.

You're the first person I heard say that and I agree. They couldn't decide if they wanted to make a Disney cartoon character or something that looks like it belongs in the real world and they missed at both. Although it was kind of cool that you could recognize Sigourney Weaver's. Couldn't place anyone else.


i wouldn't say that. worthington's avatar looked just like him... if he was a cat people. the other dude from Grandma's Boy (for the love of got people STOP PUTTING THAT USELESS GUY IN MOVIES. You want to puke? WATCH HATCHET. that movie was everything that sucks about that guy brought to life.) was pretty much the same. Ol cat chick just looked like a generic construct tho. guess it would have been hard to reconcile latin features.
 
2012-07-06 11:47:49 AM  

chewielouie: Yeah, I'd have to say that was a weakness in the movie. Leary, Sheen and Fields brought absolutely nothing to their roles.


I actually liked them all and think Leary did a fine job, but Martin Sheen and Sally freaking Fields?? They bring something to their roles the same way Deniro does. They just show the fark up.
 
2012-07-06 11:52:03 AM  
I enjoyed it.

/enjoyed me some Emma Stone in high socks...yesssssss
 
2012-07-06 12:15:42 PM  

Shabash:
Guy who must be most upset about the re-boot is Dylan Baker, who plaid Dr. Curt Connors in the last two Raimi films, but never got to Lizard up.


Uh, what?

i979.photobucket.com

/to serve and correct
 
2012-07-06 12:25:25 PM  

DeltaPunch: Does anybody actually say "bing it"? I've never heard anybody say that, ever.

Reminds me when google maps was starting to surpass mapquest, people would still say "mapquest it" even when basically everyone was using google.


Except now on the iPhone, Mapquest is way better than the shait version of Google Maps that is standard. And it's FREE!

I'm curious if existing devices will get upgraded to TomTom when the next version of iOS comes out.
 
2012-07-06 12:30:45 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: The Glades, and all the shows on USA and SyFy do this all the time
/Even have the actors talk specs about the product


Bones does it all the time too.

/Ford
 
2012-07-06 12:43:30 PM  

spacemanjones: Cosmoboy: styckx: Can someone explain to me why a movie that first came out 10 years ago needs a remake telling the same exact farking story? The original 2002 movie still holds up extremely well and so do the followups. Not even being snarky I just don't get why anyone would be retarded enough to pay for the same story again.

It didn't really, but they bring in Gwen and Captain Stacy!!! I also thought they did a better job with the Uncle Ben issue, and they dropped the cheesy wrestling gig. I would have been perfectly happy with a continuation, but this new continuity is one I'm looking forward to now.

If you were born in 2002 and are a boy, you are now a 10 year old boy. 10 year old boys dig the shiat out of Spiderman. This is a new movie to them that has nothing to do with the other movie. 10 year old. It's like toys. Parents buy them toys. All that equals The Amazing Spiderman. Expect a new Batman in 5-7 years.


You're right about Batman, but possibly not for the reason you think you are. They're already talking about a Batman reboot so they can eventually have a "Justice League" movie and Nolan's version of Bats wouldn't really fit.
 
2012-07-06 12:44:28 PM  

Hawnkee: No worse thant this 115 minute long commercial:

[livingwithanerd.com image 618x528]


Meh. Chuck Taylors are awesome. They were awesome before that. I can buy it. The same way a lot of people today go out of their way to buy old watches.
 
2012-07-06 12:48:35 PM  

pinchpoint: drjekel_mrhyde: The Glades, and all the shows on USA and SyFy do this all the time
/Even have the actors talk specs about the product

Bones does it all the time too.

/Ford


They thankfully backed off this past season, but the season before, it was like a series of Toyota commercials with a recurring cast. The auto parking one was by far the worst, but the "beeps when you leave the lane" one was also pretty egregious.

Show me the logo ten times an episode, I'm OK. That's product placement. If it hijacks the plot, that's where I draw the line.

/Also don't buy that Brennan would go from a Benz roadster to a Prius, but that's a quibble.
 
2012-07-06 12:58:37 PM  

KierzanDax: DeltaPunch: Does anybody actually say "bing it"? I've never heard anybody say that, ever.

Reminds me when google maps was starting to surpass mapquest, people would still say "mapquest it" even when basically everyone was using google.

Except now on the iPhone, Mapquest is way better than the shait version of Google Maps that is standard. And it's FREE!

I'm curious if existing devices will get upgraded to TomTom when the next version of iOS comes out.


You haven't peen paying attention to the iOS 6 news, I take it?
 
2012-07-06 01:39:28 PM  

elvindeath: Seriously - I consider myself pretty computer saavy. I don't think I've ever used Bing in my life. Does anyone ? While we're on the topic, is there anyone out there who actually uses Google+ ?

Must suck to be the latecomer. Just ask the HP Tablet.


Bing.com/travel has a price predictor that's excellent.
 
2012-07-06 01:49:23 PM  

Summoner101: Wolf_Blitzer: Emma Stone is a natural blonde, submitter.

So you're saying the curtains carpet matches the drapes?


/FTFY
 
2012-07-06 01:54:36 PM  

taliesinwi: pinchpoint: drjekel_mrhyde: The Glades, and all the shows on USA and SyFy do this all the time
/Even have the actors talk specs about the product

Bones does it all the time too.

/Ford

They thankfully backed off this past season, but the season before, it was like a series of Toyota commercials with a recurring cast. The auto parking one was by far the worst, but the "beeps when you leave the lane" one was also pretty egregious.

Show me the logo ten times an episode, I'm OK. That's product placement. If it hijacks the plot, that's where I draw the line.

/Also don't buy that Brennan would go from a Benz roadster to a Prius, but that's a quibble.


Way more practical car than a benz roadster. I totally beli-DING!-
what's that?
Oh that is the optional thingadinger now available only on the Toyota Prius for 2012. It does all these best things and goes "Ding!", dropping a Toyota commercial right in the middle of my amusingly witty deprecation of people whose IQs are below 170.
On the other hand, when I get a new car, I can't wait to show off all the cool things it does, so the only reason it jars is because we know it's an ad.

/IQ below 170
 
2012-07-06 01:56:45 PM  
I remember when the Lizard was Gwen Stay's dad...

Link
 
2012-07-06 02:34:23 PM  

Hebalo: chewielouie: No, Fark was wrong. The movie has its flaws, but it was still pretty good.

Agreed. All the whining is about pretty minor stuff. The film is fun, doesn't piss on the legacy of Spider-Man, and the Lizard is by FAR the best villain for Spidey to fight in the film yet.

SPOILERS:


For me, the best scene in the film was the "spider-nest" in the sewer. Perfect.


The Dbox motion seats shined during that scene. I was waiting for the right movie to spend the extra coin to experience them. It was a good call.
 
2012-07-06 03:21:09 PM  
Chevello:
On the other hand, when I get a new car, I can't wait to show off all the cool things it does, so the only reason it jars is because we know it's an ad.

Of course you do. But usually within days (if not minutes) of buying said car, and generally all at one time - even if you're dropping your convertible top in the middle of winter just to show it off. You're not spreading it out opportunistically over the course of the next few months. By then you're not really bragging about features in your car anymore.

And frankly I knew it was an ad because it was jarring, not the other way around.
 
2012-07-06 04:56:37 PM  

Smelly McUgly: Maybe cast Donald Glover as Miles Morales.


You're aware of the fact that Miles is 13, yes? As much as I like Glover, he's waaaay too old for the part.
 
2012-07-06 04:59:33 PM  
Why are you people seeing this movie? STOP IT.

Marvel Studios needs to be in charge of Spider-Man. Look at how awesome Avengers was... And think of what could have been if Marvel Comics hadn't sold the Spider-Man film rights in their desperation years ago.

Sony should stick to making computers and Playstations, and stop making superhero movies that crap on the source material.
 
2012-07-06 05:27:55 PM  

taliesinwi: Chevello:
On the other hand, when I get a new car, I can't wait to show off all the cool things it does, so the only reason it jars is because we know it's an ad.

Of course you do. But usually within days (if not minutes) of buying said car, and generally all at one time - even if you're dropping your convertible top in the middle of winter just to show it off. You're not spreading it out opportunistically over the course of the next few months. By then you're not really bragging about features in your car anymore.

And frankly I knew it was an ad because it was jarring, not the other way around.


Either way. Jarring. Too much ad. After this discussion I'll be looking for it when I watch Spider-Man now anyways. Thanks Fark.
 
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