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AverageAmericanGuy		2012-07-05 11:56:47 AM

It's not winter, people. Don't leave the kids in the car unless it's in an underground parking garage.

Every year we get stories like this. It's like people never learn.

Prank Call of Cthulhu		2012-07-05 11:58:19 AM

It's summer sizzler season, and another post-natal abortion attempt is foiled. Parents were probably hoping that after whipping up some quick tears and a bit of hand-wringing and public shaming, the judge would let them off with the usual, "They've suffered enough already," and they'd have one fewer mouth to feed.

GooberMcFly		2012-07-05 11:59:33 AM

Should have broken the car windows, just on principle.

KungFuJunkie		2012-07-05 11:59:34 AM

I think you need to pass an IQ test before you own a car. Fail it and you have to spend 30 min locked in a car in the sun in 90+ temps.

ackb4r		2012-07-05 11:59:48 AM

I listen to police scanners all day, and the frequency with which things like this happen is staggering. At least a few a week - and those are just the ones that are reported. I understand the desire to leave your rat-bastard kid in the car, but you just cant do it.

Ravage		2012-07-05 12:01:23 PM

People are morans.

offmymeds		2012-07-05 12:06:30 PM

TheSelphie		2012-07-05 12:07:32 PM

Oh look, Brockton embarrassing us Massholes yet again.

fruitloop		2012-07-05 12:12:08 PM

GooberMcFly: Should have broken the car windows, just on principle.

Every year these stories show up and they always makes me wonder...if someone smashes the windows in the attempt to free a child in a hot car, are they liable for the damage they caused as a result of the moran parents leaving their child in the car?

/i'm not a lawdog

ajakjoye		2012-07-05 12:16:10 PM

Seriously?! Again? I live in a very low crime area, rather safe...but I would NEVER EVER leave my kids in the car...any season! Who the f are these people?

Too Pretty For Prison		2012-07-05 12:16:46 PM

We got our dog 2 years ago at a Taco Bell. We were heading inside when my wife saw him in a car with the window down about 1 inch in 90 degree weather. I looked around, didn't see anybody, opened the door, took the dog and we left. The dog saved my life because I didn't stick around to eat that garbage. Yes, I'm a thief and yes, I'd do it again.

offmymeds		2012-07-05 12:19:57 PM

Too Pretty For Prison: We got our dog 2 years ago at a Taco Bell. We were heading inside when my wife saw him in a car with the window down about 1 inch in 90 degree weather. I looked around, didn't see anybody, opened the door, took the dog and we left. The dog saved my life because I didn't stick around to eat that garbage. Yes, I'm a thief and yes, I'd do it again.

who-is-awesome.com

gremlin1		2012-07-05 12:24:06 PM

I don't even leave my dog in the car for more than 10 minutes in this weather and I would never leave a kid in the car at any time.

probesport		2012-07-05 12:26:00 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: ~~It's not winter, people.~~ Don't leave the kids in the car ~~unless it's in an underground parking garage~~..

Too wordy, FTFM.

DubyaHater		2012-07-05 12:26:08 PM

KungFuJunkie: I think you need to pass an IQ test before you~~own a car~~ have a child . Fail it and you have to spend 30 min locked in a car in the sun in 90+ temps.

Fixed, though the human race would be extinct within two generations.

Jon iz teh kewl		2012-07-05 12:26:40 PM

SwiftFox		2012-07-05 12:27:10 PM

My last car would stay cool with sunroof part open and windows even slightly open. Not that I would use it as a toddler cage. My current car has no sunroof and roasts in the sun with the windows completely open.
I wouldn't be judgmental if the article hadn't mentioned the windows are closed, wonder how hot it really was.

tukatz		2012-07-05 12:29:39 PM

KungFuJunkie: I think you need to pass an IQ test before you own a car. Fail it and you have to spend 30 min locked in a car in the sun in 90+ temps.

I wish this were standard punishment. "Oh, you were only in there a minute? Well, checking the store video shows it was more like 45 minutes. Get in the car.... we're going to leave you in there with the windows rolled up for 45 minutes. Let us know later how that felt."

Bonus: It should be videotaped and posted so everyone can watch their agony.

MugzyBrown		2012-07-05 12:30:25 PM

I was in Brockton once and had awesome donuts at Jimmy's Donuts. I wish I had a Jimmy's Donuts near me.

I didn't read the details of the article, but this is a huge phobia of mine with my 6mos old son. He's usually super quiet and often asleep in his car seat. The thought of blipping out one day and forgetting is pretty frightening.

Jon iz teh kewl		2012-07-05 12:30:37 PM

don't you mean the man-roof of your man car

BeerBear		2012-07-05 12:32:16 PM

every year I see this s*** and wonder how parents can be so stupid leaving their kids in the car in a heat wave or their pets

always thought the parents should have to spend a hour in the car with the window rolled up as part of the punishment to see how they like it

Jument		2012-07-05 12:33:14 PM

Meh. The world has plenty of people in it. We could stand to lose a few here and there. Plus they can always make more.

mizchief		2012-07-05 12:35:18 PM

This seems like one of those issues that have become more about being self-righteous than actually caring about the child.

When talking about children, isn't the issue more of leaving the small children alone unsupervised? Why is outside temp even relevant? Most mom's I know don't even let their toddlers sleep in a nice cool bed without a baby monitor, much less in an easily steal-able car.

When it comes to dogs? Goddamn you people need to chill out. We had 2 full size fire trucks come out to our office parking lot because some busybody called about a dog left in a car. Turns out that the driver was literally away for 5mins and she was long-gone before the fire department even showed up.

Pockafrusta		2012-07-05 12:44:16 PM

Evil Mackerel		2012-07-05 12:48:58 PM

Did the little girl call her mommy when the brownies were done?

tukatz		2012-07-05 12:49:44 PM

mizchief: When it comes to dogs? Goddamn you people need to chill out. We had 2 full size fire trucks come out to our office parking lot because some busybody called about a dog left in a car. Turns out that the driver was literally away for 5mins and she was long-gone before the fire department even showed up.

Have you ever seen a dog slowly dying in a car? Do you realize that the inside of the car quickly gets much hotter than the temperature outside? The dog can't call for help. I would rather have people call on the owners and embarrass the hell out of them than have a dog die in a car. Dogs don't need to go with you on errands and such. They will be perfectly happy staying at home and waiting for you.

Your statement makes me hope you don't have any pets.

Pockafrusta		2012-07-05 12:51:42 PM

wambu		2012-07-05 12:52:17 PM

It's amazingly hot outside, people.

At least add some potatoes, onions and carrots to the car while you're at it.

Jimmy's getting angry		2012-07-05 12:55:10 PM

tukatz: mizchief: When it comes to dogs? Goddamn you people need to chill out. We had 2 full size fire trucks come out to our office parking lot because some busybody called about a dog left in a car. Turns out that the driver was literally away for 5mins and she was long-gone before the fire department even showed up.

Have you ever seen a dog slowly dying in a car? Do you realize that the inside of the car quickly gets much hotter than the temperature outside? The dog can't call for help. I would rather have people call on the owners and embarrass the hell out of them than have a dog die in a car. Dogs don't need to go with you on errands and such. They will be perfectly happy staying at home and waiting for you.

Your statement makes me hope you don't have any pets.

Settle down. Dogs are chattel/property. Children aren't (under the law)

InternetSecurityGuard		2012-07-05 12:56:06 PM

"(People) think they're running in for a minute and don't realize how long they're in the store," Dickinson said.

It's a toddler. Just leave the car running with the A/C on full blast and give the kid a .32.

LarryDan43		2012-07-05 12:56:11 PM

Good. Leave the screaming brat in the car. I don't need to hear that when im shopping or eating. Just don't do that with a dog or I will murder you.

namegoeshere		2012-07-05 12:56:23 PM

Honestly, how hard is it to unbuckle the kid and take them with you?? I have kids, so I'll answer that: not hard at all. I never saw the need to leave mine in the car. Your kid should be able to behave well enough for you to run your quick errand. If not, you need to hire a sitter or make a mommy friend and trade off errand-sitting.

This pisses me right the fark off. Lazyass parents. Take the kid with you. It's not hard.

Also, unless your dog can be where you are going, farking leave them home. Dogs hate hot cars, and you suck if you leave them in one. If you wouldn't volunteer to sit there for that time, windows merely cracked, no AC, then fark you for doing that to any other living creature.

tukatz: KungFuJunkie: I think you need to pass an IQ test before you own a car. Fail it and you have to spend 30 min locked in a car in the sun in 90+ temps.

I wish this were standard punishment. "Oh, you were only in there a minute? Well, checking the store video shows it was more like 45 minutes. Get in the car.... we're going to leave you in there with the windows rolled up for 45 minutes. Let us know later how that felt."

Bonus: It should be videotaped and posted so everyone can watch their agony.

I wish I had a link for this, but it was a fark story years ago. A judge did this to a couple. It was beautiful, with extra awesome sauce.

offmymeds		2012-07-05 12:58:10 PM

Jimmy's getting angry: Settle down. Dogs are chattel/property. Children aren't (under the law)

*wink*

queezyweezel		2012-07-05 12:59:43 PM

Jument: Meh. The world has plenty of people in it. We could stand to lose a few here and there. Plus they can always make more.

How about we start with people like you, instead of creatures that have no say in the matter?

k1yok2tog		2012-07-05 01:02:57 PM

Saw this happen Tuesday. Here in Indy temps have been hovering around 100 for the past 2 weeks. A lady left her kid in the car to run in and pick up a carry out order at a local eatery. We were inside when the hostess announced that there was a child in an Escalade, and if the parent did go get her the cops would be called. The 'mother' (and I use that term lightly) got all indignant and started yelling at everyone to stay out of her business. The hostess about attacked her.
Luckily she was restrained by another server. All of the wait staff was apologizing to the customers, but I think most of us would have held her while someone took a tire iron to the windows to get the kid out.

/csb

LaraAmber		2012-07-05 01:08:27 PM

MugzyBrown: I was in Brockton once and had awesome donuts at Jimmy's Donuts. I wish I had a Jimmy's Donuts near me.

I didn't read the details of the article, but this is a huge phobia of mine with my 6mos old son. He's usually super quiet and often asleep in his car seat. The thought of blipping out one day and forgetting is pretty frightening.

Always put your purse/briefcase in the back seat next to the baby carrier. That way you are forced to open the back door of your car when you get out. If you are traveling without either of those. Put the loops of the diaper bag over your parking brake handle.

rogue_L_chick		2012-07-05 01:08:29 PM

mizchief: This seems like one of those issues that have become more about being self-righteous than actually caring about the child.

When talking about children, isn't the issue more of leaving the small children alone unsupervised? Why is outside temp even relevant? Most mom's I know don't even let their toddlers sleep in a nice cool bed without a baby monitor, much less in an easily steal-able car.

When it comes to dogs? Goddamn you people need to chill out. We had 2 full size fire trucks come out to our office parking lot because some busybody called about a dog left in a car. Turns out that the driver was literally away for 5mins and she was long-gone before the fire department even showed up.

Friend of mine had a fire truck and police car come screaming into her 'hood last week around mid-day. Someone was walking by and saw a "toddler" face down in the seat and freaked and called the cops. It turned out it was her kid's doll (big 'un, I guess)...my friend and all her neighboors were all standing around after the cops left and agreed that it was best that happen, as that very well could have been the kiddo passed out back there (the size and the way the doll was laying, and the tint...it WAS pretty hard to tell at first glance) and while a freak-out doesn't help anyone, neither does a dead kid because someone assumed it was a doll (or the rationalization that it will probably be okay, or it's only 80 (I think 80's bad enough, but others don't), etc...). Err on the side of caution and all that.

The My Little Pony Killer		2012-07-05 01:12:56 PM

mizchief: Why is outside temp even relevant?

Outside temp is relevant because as hot as it is outside the car, it's much warmer on the inside.

And the rest of that post was entirely too trolly for me to touch.

The My Little Pony Killer		2012-07-05 01:13:43 PM

Jimmy's getting angry: tukatz: mizchief: When it comes to dogs? Goddamn you people need to chill out. We had 2 full size fire trucks come out to our office parking lot because some busybody called about a dog left in a car. Turns out that the driver was literally away for 5mins and she was long-gone before the fire department even showed up.

Have you ever seen a dog slowly dying in a car? Do you realize that the inside of the car quickly gets much hotter than the temperature outside? The dog can't call for help. I would rather have people call on the owners and embarrass the hell out of them than have a dog die in a car. Dogs don't need to go with you on errands and such. They will be perfectly happy staying at home and waiting for you.

Your statement makes me hope you don't have any pets.

Settle down. Dogs are chattel/property. Children aren't (under the law)

I hope you don't have either. Living beings are living beings.

Carn		2012-07-05 01:15:09 PM

Left my dog in the car the other day while I ran in for five minutes, but I left her window far enough down so she can pop her big head out of it and left the car running with the AC on. Still got looks.

moonage daydream		2012-07-05 01:16:56 PM

rogue_L_chick: mizchief: This seems like one of those issues that have become more about being self-righteous than actually caring about the child.

When talking about children, isn't the issue more of leaving the small children alone unsupervised? Why is outside temp even relevant? Most mom's I know don't even let their toddlers sleep in a nice cool bed without a baby monitor, much less in an easily steal-able car.

When it comes to dogs? Goddamn you people need to chill out. We had 2 full size fire trucks come out to our office parking lot because some busybody called about a dog left in a car. Turns out that the driver was literally away for 5mins and she was long-gone before the fire department even showed up.

Friend of mine had a fire truck and police car come screaming into her 'hood last week around mid-day. Someone was walking by and saw a "toddler" face down in the seat and freaked and called the cops. It turned out it was her kid's doll (big 'un, I guess)...my friend and all her neighboors were all standing around after the cops left and agreed that it was best that happen, as that very well could have been the kiddo passed out back there (the size and the way the doll was laying, and the tint...it WAS pretty hard to tell at first glance) and while a freak-out doesn't help anyone, neither does a dead kid because someone assumed it was a doll (or the rationalization that it will probably be okay, or it's only 80 (I think 80's bad enough, but others don't), etc...). Err on the side of caution and all that.

You're talking to the kid of men who view pets as property, and therefore assume animals feel as much pain and agony in a hot car as a loaf of bread. Have smashed the window out of a car before for a dog and will GLADLY do it again.

AFKobel		2012-07-05 01:19:44 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: mizchief: Why is outside temp even relevant?

Outside temp is relevant because as hot as it is outside the car, it's much warmer on the inside.

And the rest of that post was entirely too trolly for me to touch.

Wow. You totally missed the point of the part you commented on.

LaraAmber		2012-07-05 01:20:36 PM

probesport		2012-07-05 01:22:50 PM

Pockafrusta: Absolutely not. My dogs are my children, your dogs would love me too, but don't take them with you on a hot day and leave them in your car... even for 5 minutes. Either the police or a big rock through your window, you decide.

I'm torn on this. I agree with you for the bulk of your statement but think you are incomprehensibly insane comparing a dog to a child.

The My Little Pony Killer		2012-07-05 01:23:15 PM

AFKobel: The My Little Pony Killer: mizchief: Why is outside temp even relevant?

Outside temp is relevant because as hot as it is outside the car, it's much warmer on the inside.

And the rest of that post was entirely too trolly for me to touch.

Wow. You totally missed the point of the part you commented on.

I'd have to say that mizchief misses the point of why kids and animals being locked in cars is such a big deal. And no, she's not going to sleep with you.

Carn		2012-07-05 01:23:23 PM

LaraAmber: fruitloop: GooberMcFly: Should have broken the car windows, just on principle.

Every year these stories show up and they always makes me wonder...if someone smashes the windows in the attempt to free a child in a hot car, are they liable for the damage they caused as a result of the moran parents leaving their child in the car?

/i'm not a lawdog

I think in most places it's legal for the guys in uniform (cops, firefighters, EMT) to do it, but not general citizens. You're possibly liable for the cost of the repair. But I'm willing to write a check for a broken window vs. leaving a kid in a car.

Yep. There was an article very similar to this the other day except it was a dog, not a kid and someone broke the window to get it out. The officers asked the lady if she wanted to press charges for the broken window and she said no.

The My Little Pony Killer		2012-07-05 01:24:12 PM

probesport: Pockafrusta: Absolutely not. My dogs are my children, your dogs would love me too, but don't take them with you on a hot day and leave them in your car... even for 5 minutes. Either the police or a big rock through your window, you decide.

I'm torn on this. I agree with you for the bulk of your statement but think you are incomprehensibly insane comparing a dog to a child.

May you never own a pet.

RoxtarRyan		2012-07-05 01:25:29 PM

fruitloop: GooberMcFly: Should have broken the car windows, just on principle.

Every year these stories show up and they always makes me wonder...if someone smashes the windows in the attempt to free a child in a hot car, are they liable for the damage they caused as a result of the moran parents leaving their child in the car?

/i'm not a lawdog

You *might* be able to argue that the Good Samaritan Law, which protects people who may end up causing harm to someone they are attempted to save, can be extended to property damages that may occur when such assistance is given to those who are injured, ill, in peril, or otherwise incapacitated.

It would be as if someone saw a house on fire, heard someone screaming on the inside, and had to kick in the door, causing damage to the frame, in order to save the person in jeopardy. In the case of the car with the closed windows, you may be taken to small claims court, but if that happens, try to get put in front of Judge Judy. Not only will she not find you guilty, she will award you with money for your troubles and have CPS look into the person making the charge. She has a thing for kids being put in danger cause of their dumbass parents.

probesport		2012-07-05 01:28:01 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Settle down. Dogs are chattel/property. Children aren't (under the law)

I hope you don't have either. Living beings are living beings.

And dogs are dogs, kids are kids, ants are ants - you going somewhere with this or just throwing out the old troll bait?

MugzyBrown		2012-07-05 01:35:08 PM

May you never own a pet.

I have pets and a kid. If my cat needs a liver transplant, I'm not shelling out several thousand to save her life. If my kid needs a liver transplant, I'd take 5 jobs to pay for it.

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