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(Talking Points Memo)   Turns out, the states that are trying to battle Obamacare have the highest number of uninsured residents   (tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 161
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2012-07-05 09:40:45 AM  
That's because they're the most bootstrappy.
 
2012-07-05 09:46:28 AM  
I'm moving to Georgia with my cousin and starting a business where we use the trunk of a '69 Dodge Charge to smuggle free-market doctors across the county line.
 
2012-07-05 09:47:13 AM  
Dodge only made six of the Charge, you know. The ChargeR was after they went all corporate.
 
2012-07-05 09:53:25 AM  
Turns out that the states trying to battle Obamacare are at the bottom of the rankings for a lot of things.
 
2012-07-05 09:53:41 AM  
Wait. Are you using the 3/5 compromise, subby?
 
2012-07-05 09:56:01 AM  
My state has a measure that will appear on the ballot this fall that would forbid the setup of an insurance exchange by the state. I can pretty much guarantee it will pass.
 
2012-07-05 09:56:40 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Dodge only made six of the Charge, you know. The ChargeR was after they went all corporate.


The R stands for "Racin"
 
2012-07-05 09:58:38 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I'm moving to Georgia with my cousin and starting a business where we use the trunk of a '69 Dodge Charge to smuggle free-market doctors across the county line.


watch out when fleeing the sheriff not to jump too many ravines. you might injure the doctors.
 
2012-07-05 10:26:16 AM  

Sybarite: My state has a measure that will appear on the ballot this fall that would forbid the setup of an insurance exchange by the state. I can pretty much guarantee it will pass.


An insurance exchange?

Insurance exchanges are the classic entryway to a fascist state. That way lies madness.
 
2012-07-05 10:35:09 AM  
A 73 Dodge Duster passed me on the highway yesterday, heading south. He was probably part of this Doctors for Southerners smuggling already. He definitely looked like he was going places.
 
2012-07-05 10:37:16 AM  

Generation_D: A 73 Dodge Duster passed me on the highway yesterday, heading south. He was probably part of this Doctors for Southerners smuggling already. He definitely looked like he was going places.


When you criminalize health insurance only criminals will have health insurance.
 
2012-07-05 10:40:47 AM  
Why am I thinking so small with just a trunkful of doctors in a Charger?

I'm going to get a Trans Am to run interference so the Death Panel Enforcement Squad doesn't notice the tractor-trailer packed to the brim with doctors who'll only charge a few chickens to treat combine harvester injuries with Vitamin Jesus
 
2012-07-05 11:31:24 AM  
We'll worry about the uninsured folks later...now get out of my shell.

media.reason.com
 
2012-07-05 11:55:19 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Why am I thinking so small with just a trunkful of doctors in a Charger?

I'm going to get a Trans Am to run interference so the Death Panel Enforcement Squad doesn't notice the tractor-trailer packed to the brim with doctors who'll only charge a few chickens to treat combine harvester injuries with Vitamin Jesus


Just be careful, the ATF is investigating docwalking. Just last week one of them was accidentally treated by one of these docs.
 
2012-07-05 11:59:39 AM  

bdub77: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Why am I thinking so small with just a trunkful of doctors in a Charger?

I'm going to get a Trans Am to run interference so the Death Panel Enforcement Squad doesn't notice the tractor-trailer packed to the brim with doctors who'll only charge a few chickens to treat combine harvester injuries with Vitamin Jesus

Just be careful, the ATF is investigating docwalking. Just last week one of them was accidentally treated by one of these docs.


Poor guy. Now his name is Mudd.
 
2012-07-05 12:00:30 PM  
This is one of those times where I look to the state south of me and say "thank god I'm not them".

/I'm sure Michigan does the same thing
 
2012-07-05 12:10:31 PM  

Aarontology: Turns out that the states trying to battle Obamacare are at the bottom of the rankings for a lot of things.


religions.pewforum.org
 
2012-07-05 12:14:24 PM  

abb3w: [religions.pewforum.org image 406x356]


Arkansas won't be turning down Obamacare, luckily enough.
 
2012-07-05 12:23:28 PM  
That's not the issue, Subby. Or so I've been told by the Minority Leader in the Senate.
 
2012-07-05 12:44:07 PM  
Results from an interesting poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation are here.

Lessons:
1) People who do poorly on a quiz about what is in PPACA really dislike PPACA.
2) People who rely on Fox News as their primary news source do really poorly (worse than random guessing) on a quiz about what is in PPACA.
3) 40% of respondents thought "death panels" were a real thing.

Take the 10-question quiz here.
 
2012-07-05 12:44:41 PM  
Of course. That just proves that they don't need Obamacare, they're doing just fine the way they are.

Sick people should just die the way they're supposed to. All this modern "medicine" and "treatments" and "doctors" just interfere with God's natural plans for people.

Unless they're rich, of course. Then God wants doctors to do whatever is necessary to keep them alive as long as possible.
 
2012-07-05 12:59:32 PM  

chimp_ninja: Results from an interesting poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation are here.

Lessons:
1) People who do poorly on a quiz about what is in PPACA really dislike PPACA.
2) People who rely on Fox News as their primary news source do really poorly (worse than random guessing) on a quiz about what is in PPACA.
3) 40% of respondents thought "death panels" were a real thing.

Take the 10-question quiz here.


The key takeaway is that women and old people are dumb. And considering how many people on fark got 10/10...it's pretty amazing how dumb other people are. I mean in a survey with 10 questions and only two possible answers per question (if you don't count I don't know which is an automatic 0) farking monkeys have better probability outcomes...it's quite mind boggling.
 
2012-07-05 01:07:33 PM  
turns out they have a lot of medicare patients too and the thought of having to do more without government reimbursement will bankrupt them
 
2012-07-05 01:12:14 PM  

chimp_ninja: Results from an interesting poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation are here.

Lessons:
1) People who do poorly on a quiz about what is in PPACA really dislike PPACA.
2) People who rely on Fox News as their primary news source do really poorly (worse than random guessing) on a quiz about what is in PPACA.
3) 40% of respondents thought "death panels" were a real thing.

Take the 10-question quiz here.


I just got a 10 out of 10. Not a single one of those questions was difficult to answer, or misleading in any way. If you've been paying any attention you should be getting almost all of them correct.
 
2012-07-05 01:12:26 PM  

chimp_ninja: Results from an interesting poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation are here.

Lessons:
1) People who do poorly on a quiz about what is in PPACA really dislike PPACA.
2) People who rely on Fox News as their primary news source do really poorly (worse than random guessing) on a quiz about what is in PPACA.
3) 40% of respondents thought "death panels" were a real thing.

Take the 10-question quiz here.


Yeah, this was a thread a few days ago. Farkers, it turned out, were pretty well versed in what is in the Act, a lot of us got "You answered 10 out of 10 questions correctly, better than 99.6% of Americans."
 
2012-07-05 01:13:01 PM  

Sybarite: My state has a measure that will appear on the ballot this fall that would forbid the setup of an insurance exchange by the state. I can pretty much guarantee it will pass.


Oregon on the other hand just about has their's up. Link
 
2012-07-05 01:18:11 PM  

chimp_ninja: Results from an interesting poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation are here.

Lessons:
1) People who do poorly on a quiz about what is in PPACA really dislike PPACA.
2) People who rely on Fox News as their primary news source do really poorly (worse than random guessing) on a quiz about what is in PPACA.
3) 40% of respondents thought "death panels" were a real thing.

Take the 10-question quiz here.


I highlighted the most interesting aspect to me. This means you can literally say Fox viewers are more ignorant than ("anything here") and the statement would be true.
 
2012-07-05 01:19:57 PM  

chimp_ninja: 3) 40% of respondents thought "death panels" were a real thing.


I can't believe that there are questions on there that got 25% correct answer rates. Unbelievable.
 
2012-07-05 01:20:59 PM  

chimp_ninja: Results from an interesting poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation are here.

Lessons:
1) People who do poorly on a quiz about what is in PPACA really dislike PPACA.
2) People who rely on Fox News as their primary news source do really poorly (worse than random guessing) on a quiz about what is in PPACA.
3) 40% of respondents thought "death panels" were a real thing.

Take the 10-question quiz here.


"You answered 10 out of 10 questions correctly, better than 99.6% of Americans."

/Canadian
 
2012-07-05 01:26:21 PM  

SphericalTime: chimp_ninja: 3) 40% of respondents thought "death panels" were a real thing.

I can't believe that there are questions on there that got 25% correct answer rates. Unbelievable.


It doesn't surprise me. People like Bachman and other Conservatives have been continually saying the complete opposite to most of these points. If Conservatives are truly following the right-wing speaking points, they shouldn't be getting more than a quarter of them correct.
 
2012-07-05 01:26:45 PM  
They also have high obesity rates, std rates, lowest IQs.

Basically Republicans.
 
2012-07-05 01:27:34 PM  
Um, forgive me if I'm wrong here, but wouldn't it be kind of expected for a law to be opposed mainly by people who would (at least in their own perception) be affected by it?
 
2012-07-05 01:29:30 PM  
Turns out, the states that are trying to battle Obamacare have the highest number of uninsured residents FREEDOM

FTFY, commiemitter.
 
2012-07-05 01:29:53 PM  
Of course they are against it. They would finally have to pay a little into the system rather than freeload through the emergency room and have those of us that can afford to pay the doctor foot portions of their bills.
 
2012-07-05 01:30:25 PM  
F*ck them, then. Voters in those states get what they vote for.

Like my parents b*tching about Obamacare just weeks after one of them was able to get surgery THANKS TO OBAMACARE.

Republican propaganda is effective.
 
2012-07-05 01:30:45 PM  

chimp_ninja: Results from an interesting poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation are here.

Lessons:
1) People who do poorly on a quiz about what is in PPACA really dislike PPACA.
2) People who rely on Fox News as their primary news source do really poorly (worse than random guessing) on a quiz about what is in PPACA.
3) 40% of respondents thought "death panels" were a real thing.

Take the 10-question quiz here.


You answered 10 out of 10 questions correctly, better than 99.6% of Americans.

/American
//unhappily in Missouri
 
2012-07-05 01:31:06 PM  
hotcareers.com
 
2012-07-05 01:31:26 PM  
Great, emotional shot of Gov. Bat Boy. You can't help but notice the loneliness. Stare a little longer and you will see the desperate pleading for someone, anyone, to be his friend.
 
2012-07-05 01:32:01 PM  
ct.fra.bz
 
2012-07-05 01:33:06 PM  
I'm surprised no one took a big fat dump on this thread yet.
 
2012-07-05 01:33:44 PM  
Won't that make it cheaper nationwide?

Southern states = poorer states = fatter states = more uninsured states

So they'd need more federal funds to combat a higher incidence of health problems over a larger un- (or under-) insured population anyway? How is is bad for the rest of us if they refuse to get less of our tax dollars?

// I mean, except for the morans fighting against their own interests and putting themselves at greater health risk
 
2012-07-05 01:34:03 PM  

Arkanaut: Turns out, the states that are trying to battle Obamacare have the highest number of uninsured residents FREEDOM

FTFY, commiemitter.


"We shall wrap all wounds in the American flag, which will quickly regenerate all injured flesh and provide a sweet, slightly citrus-like smell to those in the immediate area. Bald eagles - which naturally gather around any incarnation of the American flag - will then gently carry to the patient to a bed, where they shall exercise their mandatory second amendment rights. "
 
2012-07-05 01:34:20 PM  
It seems the health care debate has turned into a health insurance debate. What's the core issue is cost, not necessarily insurance.
 
2012-07-05 01:34:21 PM  

mrshowrules: SphericalTime: chimp_ninja: 3) 40% of respondents thought "death panels" were a real thing.

I can't believe that there are questions on there that got 25% correct answer rates. Unbelievable.

It doesn't surprise me. People like Bachman and other Conservatives have been continually saying the complete opposite to most of these points. If Conservatives are truly following the right-wing speaking points, they shouldn't be getting more than a quarter of them correct.


The 25% was among Americans, not just conservatives. That means that half of the independents and liberals got those particular questions wrong as well.
 
2012-07-05 01:35:04 PM  
I got 9 out of 10, haven't read the thing, and I'm not an American. So people failing this have to be really dumb

/got #5 wrong, for the record.
 
2012-07-05 01:35:56 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Dodge only made six of the Charge, you know. The ChargeR was after they went all corporate.


Since you're smuggling doctors, it should be rebranded ChargeRx, for synergy and stuff, you know.
 
2012-07-05 01:36:05 PM  

SphericalTime: chimp_ninja: 3) 40% of respondents thought "death panels" were a real thing.

I can't believe that there are questions on there that got 25% correct answer rates. Unbelievable.


And it probably plays out like this

10. Will the health reform law allow undocumented immigrants to receive financial help from the government to buy health insurance?
Republican Quiz Taker: "Yes"
Quiz: Incorrect
RQT: "It will too! This quiz is wrong! Run by liberals!"
Joe Wilson: You lie!
 
2012-07-05 01:36:59 PM  

chimp_ninja: Results from an interesting poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation are here.

Lessons:
1) People who do poorly on a quiz about what is in PPACA really dislike PPACA.
2) People who rely on Fox News as their primary news source do really poorly (worse than random guessing) on a quiz about what is in PPACA.
3) 40% of respondents thought "death panels" were a real thing.

Take the 10-question quiz here.


9/10. Answered don't know on the expanding Medicaid part as I thought that was overturned by SCOTUS
 
2012-07-05 01:40:01 PM  

Millennium: Um, forgive me if I'm wrong here, but wouldn't it be kind of expected for a law to be opposed mainly by people who would (at least in their own perception) be affected by it?


Well, there are two misapprehensions, one is that they'll be affected by it (and they might not be) but the second is that being affected by it will have a negative effect on their life.

Both need to be wrong to have a negative opinion of the law, and apparently most people have do in fact have a negative opinion of the law.

Dr Dreidel: Won't that make it cheaper nationwide?

Southern states = poorer states = fatter states = more uninsured states

So they'd need more federal funds to combat a higher incidence of health problems over a larger un- (or under-) insured population anyway? How is is bad for the rest of us if they refuse to get less of our tax dollars?

// I mean, except for the morans fighting against their own interests and putting themselves at greater health risk


As a liberal, it hurts me to see people getting screwed by their political beliefs. We have a moral obligation to do what is best for our society after seeing to our own needs because we would hope the same care and comfort would be given to us. As a realist, it hurts me even more that I have to pay for their idiocy as they fight higher levels of insurance coverage.
 
2012-07-05 01:40:14 PM  
This is one of those things I just can't even begin to understand. How can a group of people as large as a state's voting bloc be so naive as to do something like this when their state is the beneficiary. The only thing I can even begin to think that could cause this type of behavior is the mistaken belief that if people less well off than you have their standard of living improved that it somehow detracts from your own.

I just don't get it. I don't get how or why these people are so insistent upon shooting themselves in the foot. We're willing to spend hundreds of billions of dollars to fight foreign wars that leave us with nothing but wounded veterans and deep debts but we're not willing to spend a little to improve the lives of American citizens within our own borders?

It's just mind boggling....
 
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