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2012-07-05 01:56:52 AM
Is that football or soccer?

/or rugby?
//stupid english blokes
 
2012-07-05 02:52:26 AM
Unfortunate but not unexpected
 
2012-07-05 04:00:12 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Unfortunate but not unexpected


This. I'm guessing he goes to Man City.
 
2012-07-05 04:53:33 AM
This is unfortunate news. After years of injury where Wenger sticks by him, he decides to leave the club after 1 good season.
Play for the name in the front of your shirt and people will remember the name on the back of your shirt.

/sad Gooner
 
2012-07-05 05:18:01 AM

Mister Toast: This is unfortunate news. After years of injury where Wenger sticks by him, he decides to leave the club after 1 good season.
Play for the name in the front of your shirt and people will remember the name on the back of your shirt.

/sad Gooner


How many opportunities is he to give Arsenal to improve?

If he was smart, he'd go join Rafa and Bale at Spurs, because that would be awesome.

/don't even like RvP as a person; he's a self-centered prick IMHO
//can't help but love watching him play, however
 
2012-07-05 07:31:42 AM

digistil: Mister Toast: This is unfortunate news. After years of injury where Wenger sticks by him, he decides to leave the club after 1 good season.
Play for the name in the front of your shirt and people will remember the name on the back of your shirt.

/sad Gooner

How many opportunities is he to give Arsenal to improve?

If he was smart, he'd go join Rafa and Bale at Spurs, because that would be awesome.

/don't even like RvP as a person; he's a self-centered prick IMHO
//can't help but love watching him play, however


That's why he won't go to Spurs, or Man U as has been rumoured. City looks more likely.
 
2012-07-05 07:41:59 AM
My guess is that City will splash the cash, and he'll go there. If he stays in the Prem, his family won't have to move.

You Arsenal fans have to start concerning yourself with moves like these. I believe 6 or so, could be more, Arsenal players have left to play for City alone. What's management doing wrong to not keep these guys? Off the top of my head, Adebayor, Nasri, Fabregas and now Van Persie have all left the club. These are some of your top players. What's management doing??

They spent a shiat ton of money on a new stadium, jacked up the prices for the fans, but where's the ROI? You guys will defend Wenger to the death, but he's not doing anything to stop these players from leaving.
 
2012-07-05 08:11:31 AM
I dont see why everyone thinks he's such a good player. he's had what 1 good season since he's been at arsenil? He was useless at the Euro's. Arsenil should let him go now then buy another teenage nobody who'll be as useless as the rest of the overpaid muppets
 
2012-07-05 08:17:20 AM

BensonBoroHedgeMarl: I dont see why everyone thinks he's such a good player. he's had what 1 good season since he's been at arsenil? He was useless at the Euro's. Arsenil should let him go now then buy another teenage nobody who'll be as useless as the rest of the overpaid muppets


Except he's the sole reason that club finished 3rd in the league last year. If it weren't for him, they'd have probably finished below Liverpool.
 
2012-07-05 08:22:08 AM
in the LAST YEAR? what did he do before then, other than keep the physio busy? One good season doesn't mean sh*t. He's one of the most overrated players around. Arsenal fans should be glad he wants to leave. Sell him, get a good price now. He'll prob go back to his old ways as soon as he goes to a new club.

Remember Owen Hargreaves at utd? he was 'supposedly' a great player. What happend to him? Left Utd, went to City.... now look!!

They finished 3rd and got into Champions league. but they wont make it out the group stages..... oh well..... at least Gazidis gets richer since that all he and the club care about!
 
2012-07-05 08:30:47 AM

BensonBoroHedgeMarl: in the LAST YEAR? what did he do before then, other than keep the physio busy? One good season doesn't mean sh*t. He's one of the most overrated players around. Arsenal fans should be glad he wants to leave. Sell him, get a good price now. He'll prob go back to his old ways as soon as he goes to a new club.


Yeah, he was injured, but once he was better, he was incredible. Top scorer in the league last season. He was a player that the team could build around and improve.

BensonBoroHedgeMarl: Remember Owen Hargreaves at utd? he was 'supposedly' a great player. What happend to him? Left Utd, went to City.... now look!!


Yes, he's an example of a player who, once injured, stayed injured and never recovered. Van Persie, however, recovered and became top scorer. Owen's still making videos though, unless he pulled something doing that too.

BensonBoroHedgeMarl: They finished 3rd and got into Champions league. but they wont make it out the group stages..... oh well..... at least Gazidis gets richer since that all he and the club care about!


No argument there, that's usually the case when you've spent massive amounts of money on building a new stadium to try and match the revenues, they'll want to make money any way they can.

/Wait, why am i defending Arsenal? Sod off cockney bastards.
 
2012-07-05 08:34:34 AM

urban.derelict: Is that football or soccer?

/or rugby?
//stupid english blokes


Association football, which they shorten to "football" and we shorten to "soccer".
 
2012-07-05 08:39:18 AM

TonnageVT: My guess is that City will splash the cash, and he'll go there. If he stays in the Prem, his family won't have to move.


You'd think he'd want to stick with a London club if he was concerned about not moving. Manchester isn't close enough to London to make it a daily commute.

Could there be a London club who just lost their best striker, has won some trophies recently and is owned by a foreign billionaire who is willing to throw cash at players? Nope, no team is coming to mind.
 
2012-07-05 08:49:50 AM

BensonBoroHedgeMarl: I dont see why everyone thinks he's such a good player. he's had what 1 good season since he's been at arsenil? He was useless at the Euro's. Arsenil should let him go now then buy another teenage nobody who'll be as useless as the rest of the overpaid muppets


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1. He wasn't part of the Dutchies' problem in Euro 2012 (Arjen and Bert were probably most to blame).

2. It don't even like the guy, but even I will admit he would be one of the top players on any team in the world, national or club. The guy's proven he's more than willing and capable to carry a team for the entire season.

3. True, he's had bad luck with injuries at Arsenal in the past, but he seems to be doing fine now. My guess is the clubs that are likely to sign him aren't going to be bothered that.

All that said, almost everything I've ever read leads me to believe he's a d-bag of epic proportions.
 
2012-07-05 09:20:07 AM

digistil:
All that said, almost everything I've ever read leads me to believe he's a d-bag of epic proportions.


If we excluded from professional athletics all the d-bags, we wouldn't have too many professional athletes left. I don't care if athletes biatch out reporters or refuse to go to autograph signings or get into minor trouble (as long as they're not physically hurting anyone) or screams at refs. If he's an incredible player, I want him on my favorite team.
 
2012-07-05 09:30:16 AM
A lot of Arsenal fans (myself included) saw this coming a mile away. I'm sad to see him go, but it's not unexpected. I think I'd prefer he go nearly anywhere else except Manchester City.

I've said this a few times now, and I'll say it again: RvP moving right now is probably for the best. This is his best chance for one final, fat contract and this is Arsenal's best opportunity to make the most money from a player who has had a lot of injury problems in the last eight years. As much as I love RvP as a player, I'd bet against him repeating what he did last season in any of the next four years. Could he? Sure. Will he? I wouldn't make a $20M-$30M wager on it.
 
2012-07-05 09:32:18 AM
It's sad to see a club with the history of Arsenal become a feeder club for Man City.
 
2012-07-05 09:44:41 AM

TonnageVT: They spent a shiat ton of money on a new stadium, jacked up the prices for the fans, but where's the ROI? You guys will defend Wenger to the death, but he's not doing anything to stop these players from leaving.


It's difficult at the moment, I'll agree. I haven't defended Wenger to the death, I think a lot of Arsenal fans were calling for his head last year, and I expressed frustration that he's stubborn as a mule. The two teams last year that suffered the most from injuries were Manchester United and Arsenal, and Arsenal's main injuries were at the back line and midfield, where Arsenal were forced to put inexperienced players out of position. I felt that they should have picked up more defenders, but Wenger risked waiting and while Arsenal didn't vie for silverware, they still managed to finish third in the table and stay in Champions League without spending panic money for players that weren't long-term investments. I'll give Wenger that one. I still don't trust Wilshere's ankle and given Arteta's age, I believe Arsenal need a good, creative midfielder.

TonnageVT: /Wait, why am i defending Arsenal? Sod off cockney bastards.


Okay, that made me laugh.
 
2012-07-05 09:47:45 AM

Langston: A lot of Arsenal fans (myself included) saw this coming a mile away. I'm sad to see him go, but it's not unexpected. I think I'd prefer he go nearly anywhere else except Manchester City.

I've said this a few times now, and I'll say it again: RvP moving right now is probably for the best. This is his best chance for one final, fat contract and this is Arsenal's best opportunity to make the most money from a player who has had a lot of injury problems in the last eight years. As much as I love RvP as a player, I'd bet against him repeating what he did last season in any of the next four years. Could he? Sure. Will he? I wouldn't make a $20M-$30M wager on it.


Totally agree..... He had 1 good season in all his time there. What are the chances of him doing it again? There's a higher chance the past season has taken its toll on his fragile body and he'll end up sitting in the physios room for the next few months.

Arsenal need to let him go. So what if he goes to City? He'll just sit on the bench there and maybe get the odd game. He probably wont even play enough games to qualify for a medal.

SigmaAlgebra: It's sad to see a club with the history of Arsenal become a feeder club for Man City.


What history?

City are another Chelsea. maybe they'll buy a few trophies, but it wont last. Money cant buy success.
 
2012-07-05 09:48:05 AM

meanmutton: digistil:
All that said, almost everything I've ever read leads me to believe he's a d-bag of epic proportions.

If we excluded from professional athletics all the d-bags, we wouldn't have too many professional athletes left. I don't care if athletes biatch out reporters or refuse to go to autograph signings or get into minor trouble (as long as they're not physically hurting anyone) or screams at refs. If he's an incredible player, I want him on my favorite team.


In complete agreement.
 
2012-07-05 09:53:10 AM

BensonBoroHedgeMarl: Arsenal need to let him go. So what if he goes to City? He'll just sit on the bench there and maybe get the odd game. He probably wont even play enough games to qualify for a medal.


Assuming he stays healthy, which striker would be above him at City?
 
2012-07-05 10:10:34 AM

digistil: HaywoodJablonski: Unfortunate but not unexpected

This. I'm guessing he goes to Man City.


No way does Wenger send to him City. I say he goes to the Continent with an Italian or Spanish side.

/really, really hoping he doesn't go to City
 
2012-07-05 10:23:45 AM

digistil: BensonBoroHedgeMarl: Arsenal need to let him go. So what if he goes to City? He'll just sit on the bench there and maybe get the odd game. He probably wont even play enough games to qualify for a medal.

Assuming he stays healthy, which striker would be above him at City?


Silva, Aguro, Tevez..... Yeah maybe none of them had the same season as RVP did last year, but he's had just 1 good season. The rest of his time he's been a second rate player.

1 good season means nothing. He'll be warming the bench or the physio table at city.
 
2012-07-05 10:50:29 AM
As per usual, Arseblog has hit the nail crack on the head.

/The policies that RVP has a problem with are the same policies that made Arsenal take a chance and stick by a then-hot-headed and selfish 20-year old from Feyenoord.
 
2012-07-05 10:59:44 AM
And with the Fat & Orange statement released today, the connection between the two reveals itself. And the connection is spelled D-E-I-N.
 
2012-07-05 11:13:32 AM
Is VPIAC the new NIAC already?
 
2012-07-05 11:14:59 AM
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Relevant.
 
2012-07-05 11:47:16 AM
He would get lost in the shuffle at City. He may flourish at some other clubs but he's had only one great year and that was the year before he knew he'd get a new contract. If he leaves this year, someone will overpay Arsenal for him. Hopefully, the Gunners will not pocket that cash but invest it on improving the backline.
 
2012-07-05 11:54:30 AM

stanhapsburg: Is VPIAC the new NIAC already?


Not to me. Honestly, as much as I'd like a player to stay with one team for his whole career, there are damn few people that wouldn't take an opportunity to double or triple their salaries for the exact same job, especially when that career is limited to another 5-8 at very most. I honestly wouldn't have begrudged Nasri for doing the same thing last year if he hadn't been such an ass about it in the press, badmouthing the team the moment he was away.
 
2012-07-05 11:55:50 AM
Anything that causes Piers Morgan to have a conniption fit is fine by me.
 
2012-07-05 11:59:09 AM

Langston: stanhapsburg: Is VPIAC the new NIAC already?

Not to me. Honestly, as much as I'd like a player to stay with one team for his whole career, there are damn few people that wouldn't take an opportunity to double or triple their salaries for the exact same job, especially when that career is limited to another 5-8 at very most. I honestly wouldn't have begrudged Nasri for doing the same thing last year if he hadn't been such an ass about it in the press, badmouthing the team the moment he was away.


1. My gripe with RVP was that statement. I put it a few rungs below Lebron's "Decision"
2. At least the Euros this year showed that it wasn't a misunderstanding with Arsenal, but in fact Nasri really is a C U Next Tuesday
 
2012-07-05 12:09:51 PM

stanhapsburg: Is VPIAC the new NIAC already?


No, Nasri is still a coont.

Honestly, I'm not thrilled that he's leaving, but it seems as though the club has made some proactive steps to lessen the blow. I'm sure it will take time for both of the new signings to get their feet under them, but I think Arsenal will be okay. I mean, he'll be 29 in August, it's not like he was going to have that much time at the top left anyway. Move him, take the money, and get another midfielder.

I am worried about Song now, and to a lesser extent, Walcott.
 
2012-07-05 12:18:16 PM

mitchcumstein1: I am worried about Song now, and to a lesser extent, Walcott.


I was thinking about Walcott yesterday afternoon. I know Chelsea would like to poach him, but he's coveted the center forward position for a while and might be more dangerous there than he was on the wing. Think of AOC as a backup creative midfielder to Jack Wilshere, with Arteta becoming a holding midfielder. Song now has more targets and Walcott is faster than Robin was. As a center forward, I wouldn't be surprised to see Theo substantially increase his goal output.
 
2012-07-05 12:23:27 PM
Had no idea Arsenal got Podolski recently, but hasn't he been generally disappointing in league play for his career given his ability?
 
2012-07-05 12:33:44 PM
The trouble with Arsenal is they always try and walk it in
 
2012-07-05 12:34:52 PM

Crewmannumber6: The trouble with Arsenal is they always try and walk it in


There's always one.
 
2012-07-05 12:36:30 PM

Billy Crystal Meth Lab: Crewmannumber6: The trouble with Arsenal is they always try and walk it in

There's always one.


Surprised it actually took this long to be honest.
 
2012-07-05 12:40:12 PM

Langston: I was thinking about Walcott yesterday afternoon. I know Chelsea would like to poach him, but he's coveted the center forward position for a while and might be more dangerous there than he was on the wing. Think of AOC as a backup creative midfielder to Jack Wilshere, with Arteta becoming a holding midfielder. Song now has more targets and Walcott is faster than Robin was. As a center forward, I wouldn't be surprised to see Theo substantially increase his goal output.


This is Walcott's time to shine. Wilshere, though spoken about a lot of, has been injured for the better part of the season, he's not really proven. Podolski will be in foreign territory, so it might take him a little time to adapt to the English league. So this would be Walcott's time to really come up, not only for Arsenal, but it also gives him a chance to shine in front of Woy and get a first spot on the national team.
 
2012-07-05 12:43:14 PM

TonnageVT: Billy Crystal Meth Lab: Crewmannumber6: The trouble with Arsenal is they always try and walk it in

There's always one.

Surprised it actually took this long to be honest.


Didn't even get the quote right, either.
 
2012-07-05 12:45:40 PM

TonnageVT: This is Walcott's time to shine. Wilshere, though spoken about a lot of, has been injured for the better part of the season, he's not really proven. Podolski will be in foreign territory, so it might take him a little time to adapt to the English league. So this would be Walcott's time to really come up, not only for Arsenal, but it also gives him a chance to shine in front of Woy and get a first spot on the national team.


Agree on all points. When he's switched on, Theo can be great, but he's been inconsistent.
 
2012-07-05 12:45:53 PM

Langston: mitchcumstein1: I am worried about Song now, and to a lesser extent, Walcott.

I was thinking about Walcott yesterday afternoon. I know Chelsea would like to poach him, but he's coveted the center forward position for a while and might be more dangerous there than he was on the wing. Think of AOC as a backup creative midfielder to Jack Wilshere, with Arteta becoming a holding midfielder. Song now has more targets and Walcott is faster than Robin was. As a center forward, I wouldn't be surprised to see Theo substantially increase his goal output.


I can see his productivity going up, but I don't know if I like him being a target man in the middle of the pitch. I think he's better suited for the wing, that's just me. I'd like to see a midfielder signed because Jack can't seem to get healthy and I fear that depth may become an issue, yet again. I also wouldn't mind another defender being brought in, but I know that signing two more players, on top of possibly Lloris, which makes very little sense to me, is probably a pipe dream.
 
2012-07-05 12:48:49 PM

TonnageVT: Billy Crystal Meth Lab: Crewmannumber6: The trouble with Arsenal is they always try and walk it in

There's always one.

Surprised it actually took this long to be honest.


I'm actually starting to enjoy doing it because you're such pussies about it
 
2012-07-05 01:03:28 PM

TonnageVT: My guess is that City will splash the cash, and he'll go there. If he stays in the Prem, his family won't have to move.

You Arsenal fans have to start concerning yourself with moves like these. I believe 6 or so, could be more, Arsenal players have left to play for City alone. What's management doing wrong to not keep these guys? Off the top of my head, Adebayor, Nasri, Fabregas and now Van Persie have all left the club. These are some of your top players. What's management doing??

They spent a shiat ton of money on a new stadium, jacked up the prices for the fans, but where's the ROI? You guys will defend Wenger to the death, but he's not doing anything to stop these players from leaving.


For the first half of the last season every other person on the football phone ins were Arsnil fans calling for Wenger to resign/be sacked. It was only after the Arse started to claw back against Spurs the calls for the sacking become muted.

Wenger has done wonders at the club but he has not moved with the footballing times. All he will do is to try and find young stars and then grow them into great players over a number of seasons. Thats difficult but can be done if you currently have a great team and you can slot the younger players in (its what SAF is doing with some success).
The problem is the current Arsenil team isn't good enough to do that and it needs a couple of players who are the finished artical. Wenger has the money to do this but he won't.

AVB would of been a great choice to replace him but now i can't think of a manager who isn't a big risk to replace him.


Can i just say thank you Paul Lambert. I hope you have success with Villa. Unlike some Norwich fans i can remember the dark days you pulled us out of.
 
2012-07-05 01:08:17 PM

digistil: HaywoodJablonski: Unfortunate but not unexpected

This. I'm guessing he goes to Man City.


So he can go suck like Nasri(IAC) and Clichy? I won't mind.

Honestly, I could see this coming; even with the signings Arsene has made this off-season. Then again, we could have a Steven Gerrard-esque situation where he says he won't sign/he'll leave, Arsenal makes a couple more impact signings, RvP reconsiders and re-signs.

/Arsenal fan
//Should sell him to a team in the continent.
///Unless he reconsiders
 
2012-07-05 01:12:05 PM

TonnageVT: They spent a shiat ton of money on a new stadium, jacked up the prices for the fans, but where's the ROI? You guys will defend Wenger to the death, but he's not doing anything to stop these players from leaving.


I would rather have Arsenal in the financial position they are in than leveraged to the hilt and needing to offer an IPO in the hopes of paying of some of their debt. Arsenal will continue to do things the Arsenal way, and hopefully the football world wakes up and realizes that the way that money is spent and teams are run cannot continue. I'm not saying a salary cap necessarily, but something needs to be done, it's not a tenable situation right now.
 
2012-07-05 01:15:11 PM

BensonBoroHedgeMarl: Money cant buy success.


This wasn't true before the advent of the EPL (and the current CL format). It's MUCH less true now.
 
2012-07-05 01:31:54 PM

TonnageVT: My guess is that City will splash the cash, and he'll go there. If he stays in the Prem, his family won't have to move.

You Arsenal fans have to start concerning yourself with moves like these. I believe 6 or so, could be more, Arsenal players have left to play for City alone. What's management doing wrong to not keep these guys? Off the top of my head, Adebayor, Nasri, Fabregas and now Van Persie have all left the club. These are some of your top players. What's management doing??


I'm not surprised at all by this. But look at the careers of those guys post-Arsenal:

Adebayor. His usual "can't stop scoring his first 2 months, then sucks the rest of the season" routine.

Nasri (IAC): Did he do anything of merit towards City winning the league last season? Doubt it. Also, his behavior with France during the Euros proved that he's a mewling quim.

Fabergas got his dream move to come home to Barca. Results? Copa Del Rey, 2nd in the league, KOed of the CL by Chelsea. And now, no Pep. So Barca maybe going downhill anyway; it's a cyclical thing with them.and Real.

Also, I hear that Van Persie put a lot of suitors off by his wage demands (reportedly £275K/week). If Arsenal wants to cash in they should do so ASAP; I doubt he'll stay healthy for 90% of the season again and/or score at least 25 goals in a season.

They spent a shiat ton of money on a new stadium, jacked up the prices for the fans, but where's the ROI? You guys will defend Wenger to the death, but he's not doing anything to stop these players from leaving.

You haven't been to the Arsenal blogs/websites now have you? There are a LOT of people who are at the very least annoyed by Wenger's spendthrift policy. We all recognize that we can't just throw money at a problem like City or PSG does. But we also hate that Wenger tries to get players on the cheap when even we fans recognize that we will have to play top dollar for a quality signing. Its not like the debts are crushing the club like it did Rangers and, as you said, if you're going to ask fans to pay through the nose for tickets, they might as well put HQ players on the field that says "This is what those tickets paid for."

I also still don't get why the board haven't renegotiated with both Nike AND Emirates for bigger deals. I mean, when United gets around £20 Million/year for DHL's logo on the warmup/training kit, Arsenal should be able to command at least £25 Million/year for the kit alone. Not to mention another £25 Million/year for the naming rights to the stadium
 
2012-07-05 01:35:08 PM

mitchcumstein1: I would rather have Arsenal in the financial position they are in than leveraged to the hilt and needing to offer an IPO in the hopes of paying of some of their debt. Arsenal will continue to do things the Arsenal way, and hopefully the football world wakes up and realizes that the way that money is spent and teams are run cannot continue. I'm not saying a salary cap necessarily, but something needs to be done, it's not a tenable situation right now.


pssst...United's IPO has nothing to do with the way the club is run. It's actually the Glazers' debt, they're using United shares to help pay off. As you can clearly see, it's not affecting them buying players when they need to.
 
2012-07-05 01:38:34 PM

BensonBoroHedgeMarl: City are another Chelsea. maybe they'll buy a few trophies, but it wont last. Money cant buy success.


City won the league with the last kick of the season! United by their standards, had a half-ass squad that nearly won the damn league! Hell, even Mourinho's Chelsea won the league at a canter. If that's City's *best* team, United shouldn't have to sweat anything.

/Wait, why am I defending United?
//Fark the fair-weather farks!
 
2012-07-05 01:42:31 PM

TonnageVT: mitchcumstein1: I would rather have Arsenal in the financial position they are in than leveraged to the hilt and needing to offer an IPO in the hopes of paying of some of their debt. Arsenal will continue to do things the Arsenal way, and hopefully the football world wakes up and realizes that the way that money is spent and teams are run cannot continue. I'm not saying a salary cap necessarily, but something needs to be done, it's not a tenable situation right now.

pssst...United's IPO has nothing to do with the way the club is run. It's actually the Glazers' debt, they're using United shares to help pay off. As you can clearly see, it's not affecting them buying players when they need to.


If you actually think that when the owners of the club are £500 in debt it doesn't affect the way the club is eventually run, you're insane. Of course it does. That's a completely ridiculous thing to say. At some point you have to pay that money back, and when that day comes, there's hell to pay.
 
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