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(The Citizen)   Swedish court rules that it's impossible to rape a man   (thelocal.se) divider line 204
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2012-07-04 08:40:21 PM
content9.flixster.com

Things just got a whole lot easier in gen. pop.
 
2012-07-04 08:42:00 PM
There's no part of this story I don't find questionable.
 
2012-07-04 08:47:39 PM
This is the same lot that call it rape when the condom breaks.
 
2012-07-04 08:50:44 PM

sno man: This is the same lot that call it rape when the condom breaks.


See?

Something's fishy about this "story"
 
2012-07-04 08:54:55 PM

doglover: sno man: This is the same lot that call it rape when the condom breaks.

See?

Something's fishy about this "story"


something something Assange something...
/got nothing
 
2012-07-04 08:58:54 PM
images.wikia.com

O RLY?
 
2012-07-04 09:02:31 PM

sno man: This is the same lot that call it rape when the condom breaks.


This. What an odd lot...
 
2012-07-04 09:10:19 PM
Cool. BRB raping Justin Bieber.

/yes he is a man. He's 18.
 
2012-07-04 09:33:05 PM
And I thought Sweden was a liberal bastion
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-07-04 09:44:27 PM
The intended crime never had the possibility of being fulfilled

In the USA, or most of it, factual impossibility is not a defense to a crime of attempt. When you try to pick up that "14 year old girl" online the fact that she's a 30 year old man does not excuse your behavior.
 
2012-07-04 10:11:07 PM

ZAZ: The intended crime never had the possibility of being fulfilled

In the USA, or most of it, factual impossibility is not a defense to a crime of attempt. When you try to pick up that "14 year old girl" online the fact that she's a 30 year old man does not excuse your behavior.


yeah but in the USA we're also much more industrious and would have made sure that the rape actually occurred, with or without the vagina.
 
2012-07-04 10:33:38 PM

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!


Who's first?
 
2012-07-04 10:44:54 PM

cman: And I thought Sweden was a liberal bastion


Male rape is OK in conservative societies?

...actually, don't answer that
 
2012-07-04 10:46:37 PM

Lionel Mandrake: cman: And I thought Sweden was a liberal bastion

Male rape is OK in conservative societies?

...actually, don't answer that


I was referring to the fact that the woman was not recognized by the court as such
 
2012-07-04 10:46:40 PM
Swedish courts understand that rape doesn't just involve the genitals, right? People can be sodomized with inanimate objects, and that's still considered forcible sexual assault.

I would gather the number of men who actually report being raped is already hovering near the barometer on the Titanic, this just made it dip down to the molten core of the Earth.
 
2012-07-04 10:58:56 PM
What war on men?
 
2012-07-04 11:05:00 PM
i'm goin to sweden, kaythnxbai
 
2012-07-04 11:36:08 PM

Coco LaFemme: Swedish courts understand that rape doesn't just involve the genitals, right? People can be sodomized with inanimate objects, and that's still considered forcible sexual assault.


So if i punch a dude in the nuts, that's rape? Because according to TFA that's essentially what happened here.
 
2012-07-04 11:53:59 PM

Ghastly: CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!


Who's first?


i.imgur.com
 
2012-07-04 11:59:09 PM
He rape-a-like-a-man
 
2012-07-05 12:00:20 AM

Walker: Cool. BRB raping Justin Bieber.

/yes he is a man. He's 18.


Make sure you don't rape Ellen Page by mistake. Would be kinda awkward.
 
2012-07-05 12:01:29 AM

Chafed Willi: So if i punch a dude in the nuts, that's rape? Because according to TFA that's essentially what happened here.


Depends in you punch them in the nuts from the front, or come in from behind and through the anus....
 
2012-07-05 12:01:41 AM
So a UPIA isn't rape?
 
2012-07-05 12:01:43 AM

Ghastly: CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!


Who's first?


ME, ME, ME,
 
2012-07-05 12:02:12 AM
Appears I'm the only one to click the link...

A man who attempted to rape a woman has been cleared of the charges by a Swedish court after it turned out that the woman he tried to rape was actually a man.


Good tranny, bad lighting, yada yada. I'm not saying it's right, because it's a matter of intent, not result.

/Someone call Austin Powers.
 
2012-07-05 12:02:27 AM
Did the Pope threaten to excommunicate Sweden?
 
2012-07-05 12:03:14 AM
Strange... not a lot of Fark "feminists" in this thread for some reason...
 
2012-07-05 12:03:34 AM
So FTA no rape occured, and the perp is now being charged with assault, which seems fair as that's what happened.

Also, FTA:

The 61-year-old is now convicted for assault. The punishment is four years prison and 15,000 kronor ($2,161) in damages to the woman.'

Wait, where did a woman come from? I can understand the difficulties in finding a way to report the sex of TG folk, but can we a least be consistent within an article?
 
2012-07-05 12:05:39 AM

WhippingBoy: Strange... not a lot of Fark "feminists" in this thread for some reason...


Women on Fark are a myth. It is just guys posing as women with photos they find via GIS and photobucket hacking.
 
2012-07-05 12:06:07 AM
So, those of you were forced into anal sex in prison...you weren't anal raped, because you're a man.

Hey, even Whoopi Goldberg agrees that anal sex, forced or not, isn't rape.
 
2012-07-05 12:06:16 AM
Norwgian grandma says "I knew they weren't smart when they joined the EU".

Ouch, grandma. Ouch.

/don't look at me, I'm a Cali wench
 
2012-07-05 12:07:19 AM
jocka.net

I dunno about the connection but gay rape conviction/ non-conviction/ no actual raping reminded me of the To Catch A Predator programs I've recently watched.

Anyway, thought this caption was funny.

/that episode with the suicide was not funny.
 
2012-07-05 12:07:24 AM
"There are different theories about how this should be handled, and so we're looking forward to seeing the verdict from the Court of Appeals," he said, adding that he would appeal the decision if he were the prosecutor or the defence."

I think this explains the judges decision.
 
2012-07-05 12:09:19 AM

TuteTibiImperes: So FTA no rape occured, and the perp is now being charged with assault, which seems fair as that's what happened.


except if the victim had been a biological woman the crime would have been attempted rape which presumably is a much more severe charge. So the perp is being charged differently because of the gender of his victim based on the obviously mistaken assertion that a man cannot rape another man. It's bullshiat.
 
2012-07-05 12:10:00 AM
I think this is absolutely farking ridiculous! Of course a man can be raped! What are they smoking over there!

/outraged Fark feminist
//slash writer - has guys raped all the farking time!
 
2012-07-05 12:12:31 AM

ZAZ: The intended crime never had the possibility of being fulfilled

In the USA, or most of it, factual impossibility is not a defense to a crime of attempt. When you try to pick up that "14 year old girl" online the fact that she's a 30 year old man does not excuse your behavior.


It's the same in most common law jurisdictions. If you genuinely believe you're dealing cocaine and it turns out to be baking powder or some other lawful substance, you can still be convicted of drug dealing.
 
2012-07-05 12:13:02 AM

Voiceofreason01: TuteTibiImperes: So FTA no rape occured, and the perp is now being charged with assault, which seems fair as that's what happened.


except if the victim had been a biological woman the crime would have been attempted rape which presumably is a much more severe charge. So the perp is being charged differently because of the gender of his victim based on the obviously mistaken assertion that a man cannot rape another man. It's bullshiat.


If Sweden has an attempted rape law on the books, go for it, though in general I'm not a fan of 'attempted' crime charges, they come too close to 'thought crime' in my book. Prosecute what happened, not what may or may not have been the intentions of the accused.
 
2012-07-05 12:13:25 AM
dafuq?
 
2012-07-05 12:16:13 AM

Ghastly: CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!


Who's first?


Ooh! Ooh! Pick me! Me! Me!
 
2012-07-05 12:17:40 AM
So in other words, it looks like Sweden is about to establish more concrete rules regarding sexual assault?

I'm ok with this.
 
2012-07-05 12:18:13 AM
It's hard on the judge as Sweden is one of the most politically correct countries on earth.

What surer way to prove your PC credentials than to kick men when they down?
 
2012-07-05 12:19:08 AM

TuteTibiImperes: Voiceofreason01: TuteTibiImperes: So FTA no rape occured, and the perp is now being charged with assault, which seems fair as that's what happened.


except if the victim had been a biological woman the crime would have been attempted rape which presumably is a much more severe charge. So the perp is being charged differently because of the gender of his victim based on the obviously mistaken assertion that a man cannot rape another man. It's bullshiat.

If Sweden has an attempted rape law on the books, go for it, though in general I'm not a fan of 'attempted' crime charges, they come too close to 'thought crime' in my book. Prosecute what happened, not what may or may not have been the intentions of the accused.


The victim was assaulted with intent to rape, regardless of whether the attacker knew he was a she. That's attempted, in my book (and pretty sure at least the NYS Penal Law will back me up, I'm just feeling lazy). It's not the same as a 'thought' crime, or I'd be in trouble for some random thoughts about Daniel Radcliff in the last two HP movies.

/yeah, I know it's wrong
//hence why I didn't dwell on it
 
2012-07-05 12:22:16 AM
Attempted rape? Now honestly, what is that? Do they give a Nobel prize for attempted chemistry? Do they?
 
2012-07-05 12:22:34 AM
So pre-op, and it isn't rape. What if "she" had been post-op?
 
2012-07-05 12:22:57 AM
Well, considering men are responsible for every ill conceived of on Earth, it only stands to reason that they couldn't possibly be a victim of rape.
 
2012-07-05 12:26:32 AM
i45.tinypic.com

/Begs to differ.
 
2012-07-05 12:26:34 AM

cman: Lionel Mandrake: cman: And I thought Sweden was a liberal bastion

Male rape is OK in conservative societies?

...actually, don't answer that

I was referring to the fact that the woman was not recognized by the court as such


Mostly because a man isn't a woman.
 
2012-07-05 12:28:18 AM

TuteTibiImperes: I'm not a fan of 'attempted' crime charges, they come too close to 'thought crime' in my book. Prosecute what happened, not what may or may not have been the intentions of the accused.


So, as an example, if I take out a gun, yell "I'm going to kill you" and start shooting, you think I should be charged with simple assault and maybe illegal discharge of a firearm instead of attempted murder?
 
2012-07-05 12:29:26 AM
Has...has anyone tried to tell Sweden that men and women share a common hole?

Actually several common holes, any one of which is totally rape-tastictm?
 
2012-07-05 12:29:51 AM

ladyfortuna: TuteTibiImperes: Voiceofreason01: TuteTibiImperes: So FTA no rape occured, and the perp is now being charged with assault, which seems fair as that's what happened.


except if the victim had been a biological woman the crime would have been attempted rape which presumably is a much more severe charge. So the perp is being charged differently because of the gender of his victim based on the obviously mistaken assertion that a man cannot rape another man. It's bullshiat.

If Sweden has an attempted rape law on the books, go for it, though in general I'm not a fan of 'attempted' crime charges, they come too close to 'thought crime' in my book. Prosecute what happened, not what may or may not have been the intentions of the accused.

The victim was assaulted with intent to rape, regardless of whether the attacker knew he was a she. That's attempted, in my book (and pretty sure at least the NYS Penal Law will back me up, I'm just feeling lazy). It's not the same as a 'thought' crime, or I'd be in trouble for some random thoughts about Daniel Radcliff in the last two HP movies.

/yeah, I know it's wrong
//hence why I didn't dwell on it


Why did you want to kill Daniel Radcliff?
 
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