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2012-07-04 04:37:33 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: They get a pass, because English is obviously not their Mother Tongue. The other two biatches have no such excuse.


Aside from the actual performance, I have to explain the big reason why I don't like Hilary Duff's version of "My Generation."

She changes the line "Hope I die before I get old" to "Hope I *DON'T* die before I get old."

It completely misses the friggin' point of the original song.
 
2012-07-04 04:39:15 PM  

theorellior: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: CASEY KASEM'S AMERICAN TOP 40 - 1/15/72

There were two separate versions of "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing" on the charts at the same time?

[shudder]


One of the greatest jingles of all time. Can't front on it. It deserved to be everywhere, like the Candy Man song.
 
2012-07-04 04:50:58 PM  
All band geeks know the line "The players tried to take the field but the marching band refused to yield". It's a shibboleth for wind players everywhere.
 
2012-07-04 05:00:17 PM  

Refudiated Strategerist: I'm sorry, I forgot to add, forty years in YOUR future nobody will be taking about any of the "hits" of that era as none will have left a scratch on musical history.


Perspective; the president of the United States hadn't been born "the day the music died."

I was born during the Carter Administration. My wife was in elementary school when Kurt Cobain died.

//Farking self-absorbed Boomers.
 
2012-07-04 05:03:48 PM  
AdolfOliverPanties: I prefer "Vincent."

THIS x a trillion.

Here's an excellent live version, just voice & guitar:

This world was never meant for one as beautiful as you

As for the link, I thought all the references in the lyrics had been figured out years ago.

36: WITHOUT YOU - NILSSON
35: STAY WITH ME - FACES
33: BLACK DOG - LED ZEPPELIN
30: LEVON - ELTON JOHN
29: RESPECT YOURSELF - THE STAPLE SINGERS
26: HAVE YOU SEEN HER - THE CHI-LITES
22: ANTICIPATION - CARLY SIMON
19: AN OLD FASHIONED LOVE SONG - THREE DOG NIGHT
18: NEVER BEEN TO SPAIN - THREE DOG NIGHT
15: ONE MONKEY DON'T STOP NO SHOW - THE HONEY CONE
14: DAY AFTER DAY - BADFINGER
11: YOU ARE EVERYTHING - THE STYLISTICS
10: CLEAN UP WOMAN - BETTY WRIGHT
8: GOT TO BE THERE - MICHAEL JACKSON
6: SCORPIO - DENNIS COFFEY & THE DETRIOT GUITAR BAND
5: FAMILY AFFAIR - SLY & THE FAMILY STONE
4: SUNSHINE - JONATHAN EDWARDS
3: LET'S STAY TOGETHER - AL GREEN
2: BRAND NEW KEY - MELANIE
1: AMERICAN PIE - DON McLEAN

Damn. It's incredible to think stuff like #33 & #35 ever made the Top 40 (even if it's Kasey Kasem and not Billboard), back when rock music WAS pop music. #3 is incredible, #5 with drugged out Sly is too, love #8, #14 might be the best Paul McCartney song not written by Paul McCartney, and love #30 and #36.

[sits on porch] Hahahahaha, you damn kids today with your hippity-hoppity "music" and dumb female "singers", you don't know what you're missing. My lawn, off it, NOW.
 
2012-07-04 05:09:39 PM  

Henry Holland:
36: WITHOUT YOU - NILSSON
35: STAY WITH ME - FACES
33: BLACK DOG - LED ZEPPELIN
30: LEVON - ELTON JOHN
29: RESPECT YOURSELF - THE STAPLE SINGERS
26: HAVE YOU SEEN HER - THE CHI-LITES
22: ANTICIPATION - CARLY SIMON
19: AN OLD FASHIONED LOVE SONG - THREE DOG NIGHT
18: NEVER BEEN TO SPAIN - THREE DOG NIGHT
15: ONE MONKEY DON'T STOP NO SHOW - THE HONEY CONE
14: DAY AFTER DAY - BADFINGER
11: YOU ARE EVERYTHING - THE STYLISTICS
10: CLEAN UP WOMAN - BETTY WRIGHT
8: GOT TO BE THERE - MICHAEL JACKSON
6: SCORPIO - DENNIS COFFEY & THE DETRIOT GUITAR BAND
5: FAMILY AFFAIR - SLY & THE FAMILY STONE
4: SUNSHINE - JONATHAN EDWARDS
3: LET'S STAY TOGETHER - AL GREEN
2: BRAND NEW KEY - MELANIE
1: AMERICAN PIE - DON McLEAN

Damn. It's incredible to think stuff like #33 & #35 ever made the Top 40 (even if it's Kasey Kasem and not Billboard), back when rock music WAS pop music. #3 is incredible, #5 with drugged out Sly is too, love #8, #14 might be the best Paul McCartney song not written by Paul McCartney, and love #30 and #36.


By this time Kasem was using the Billboard chart.
 
2012-07-04 05:11:40 PM  
The stupid song, not the stupid movie

FIFY
 
2012-07-04 05:12:28 PM  

basemetal: That pie is a lie?

/except on Independence day
//then apple and peach pie/cobbler is acceptable
///yes, with homemade ice cream


No no, the cake is a lie.
 
2012-07-04 05:14:48 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: By At this time Kasem was using the Billboard chart.


ftfm.
 
2012-07-04 05:15:58 PM  
It's no alice's restaurant massacree.
 
2012-07-04 05:27:08 PM  

theorellior: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: CASEY KASEM'S AMERICAN TOP 40 - 1/15/72

There were two separate versions of "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing" on the charts at the same time?

[shudder]


Yep.

The New Seekers

The Hillside Singers
 
2012-07-04 05:31:47 PM  
It is lacking a flautist?
 
2012-07-04 05:38:08 PM  
I'm convinced that song became a hit because DJs would just put it on whenever they needed to smoke, make a phone call, make a pot of coffee, or go to the bathroom.

Same thing with Stairway and In A Gadda Da Vida.
 
2012-07-04 05:41:50 PM  

Refudiated Strategerist: hurdboy: *yawn*

That's interesting, grandpa.


I'm sorry, I forgot to add, forty years in YOUR future nobody will be taking about any of the "hits" of that era as none will have left a scratch on musical history.

Forgive the oversight.


It's only hung around for 40 years because BOOMERS REFUSE TO STFU ABOUT IT.

/You're old. You've been old since the mid-70s. Get over it.
 
2012-07-04 05:47:32 PM  
Tangent to the tangent:

cps-static.rovicorp.com

/ why yes, I have it
 
2012-07-04 05:55:33 PM  

Jamdug!: I hate that farking song.


This this this.
 
2012-07-04 05:57:31 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Jamdug!: I hate that farking song.

I can't say I'm a fan, either.

I groan audibly whenever that surfaces on my classic rock radio station.


Perfect solution: stop listening to classic rock. Way too much new and interesting music out there to waste your time on continuous rotation of Purple Haze, My Generation, and Light My Fire

/small doses are permitted
 
2012-07-04 05:57:47 PM  

verbaltoxin: It's only hung around for 40 years because BOOMERS REFUSE TO STFU ABOUT IT.

/You're old. You've been old since the mid-70s. Get over it.


That is about as dumb as saying, "Mozart's Piano Concerto No. 9 in E flat Major is over 200 years old, get over it."
 
2012-07-04 05:59:07 PM  

stoli n coke: I'm convinced that song became a hit because DJs would just put it on whenever they needed to smoke, make a phone call, make a pot of coffee, or go to the bathroom.

Same thing with Stairway and In A Gadda Da Vida.


First time I head the live Dazed and Confused from the Song Remains the Same was on DC 101 (1984 ish...) at 2am. I couldn't sleep and put the radio on. I realized that it went on and on and on and on and on.. I wanted to hear where it was from. I knew it was LZ and I knew it was Dazed and Confused at some point near the end...

Well, the DJ came on the air when it was over and said this was blah from LZ from Song Remains the Same and I feel sorry for the morning crew when they walk in here...They will not enjoy the present I left for them.

I had no idea what that meant but I remembered it and then a few years later someone mentioned this as a DJ take a dump song. He worked at WUVT and he mentioned some others... Live Freebird was another one. Mountain Jam (live) from the Allmans was another one. Echoes.

I like American Pie but I change it when it is on the radio. I like to listen to it on my terms.
 
2012-07-04 06:04:56 PM  
J. Geils Band at #39 !! I'm surprised they're on that list. I saw Geils in 72 in a small place, best live band I ever saw.
Take that Pie (and I don't mean Humble) song outside and PLEASE BURN IT !!
 
2012-07-04 06:11:09 PM  
21. It eventually ends.
 
2012-07-04 06:18:37 PM  

BroVinny: Refudiated Strategerist: So, even #1 American Pie might only be played twice in a six hour shift.


Sounds insignificant, until you realize that "American Pie" twice makes up about 10 percent of that six hours!

/of course, I may be exaggerating


4.7%
 
2012-07-04 06:22:17 PM  

Tanukis_Parachute: stoli n coke: I'm convinced that song became a hit because DJs would just put it on whenever they needed to smoke, make a phone call, make a pot of coffee, or go to the bathroom.

Same thing with Stairway and In A Gadda Da Vida.

First time I head the live Dazed and Confused from the Song Remains the Same was on DC 101 (1984 ish...) at 2am. I couldn't sleep and put the radio on. I realized that it went on and on and on and on and on.. I wanted to hear where it was from. I knew it was LZ and I knew it was Dazed and Confused at some point near the end...

Well, the DJ came on the air when it was over and said this was blah from LZ from Song Remains the Same and I feel sorry for the morning crew when they walk in here...They will not enjoy the present I left for them.

I had no idea what that meant but I remembered it and then a few years later someone mentioned this as a DJ take a dump song. He worked at WUVT and he mentioned some others... Live Freebird was another one. Mountain Jam (live) from the Allmans was another one. Echoes.

I like American Pie but I change it when it is on the radio. I like to listen to it on my terms.


I worked as a DJ about 10 years ago. I'll vouch that certain songs are flagged for bathroom breaks. Last year, I was driving, and heard my old station play November Rain, One, and the live version of Simple Man with no talk breaks in between. I was tempted to call the station to see if the DJ needed a doctor or something.
 
2012-07-04 06:23:45 PM  
I pretty much despise the song since when I was a teenager the rock stations
seemed to play it two to three times per day. Got sick of it. I have not heard it in
a handful of years though so who knows. Now that I have read a little about the
lyrics if I listen to it again I might not hate it quite as much. I highly doubt it though.
 
2012-07-04 06:25:43 PM  

Harry_Seldon: verbaltoxin: It's only hung around for 40 years because BOOMERS REFUSE TO STFU ABOUT IT.

/You're old. You've been old since the mid-70s. Get over it.

That is about as dumb as saying, "Mozart's Piano Concerto No. 9 in E flat Major is over 200 years old, get over it."


I'm going to pretend you didn't do something stupid like compare Don McClean to Mozart.
 
2012-07-04 06:30:52 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Madonna's version is an even more loathed staple of Worst Covers Of All Time lists.

No, I'm pretty sure this is common knowledge.

As bad covers go, this runs neck-and-neck with Hilary Duff's version of "My Generation."

This is how it's done, ladies.


Back in the days of goddamn dialup, I was on this "mp3 of the week" mailing list. Started out it had pretty good songs from artists I'd never heard of before, which was good since they took f--king forever to download on a 28.8 when my mom kept yelling that she wanted the phone.

The week I said f--k this sh-t was the day that Madonna cover was the download. Ugh.

Refudiated Strategerist: Same with Lalya, there was an AM version which trashed the piano section to cut the song down to 3:change.


I was listening to a Clear Channel station last week in the work car with no CD player or USB hookup (otherwise known as "the crappy work car") play Layla and STILL cut out the piano solo. Jesus f--king Christ, I guess we gotta get the commercials in. It's one of my favorite segments of music period.

Scenes like this have definitely helped make it that (Community's parody, lgt video)
 
2012-07-04 06:33:37 PM  

verbaltoxin: Refudiated Strategerist: hurdboy: *yawn*

That's interesting, grandpa.


I'm sorry, I forgot to add, forty years in YOUR future nobody will be taking about any of the "hits" of that era as none will have left a scratch on musical history.

Forgive the oversight.

It's only hung around for 40 years because BOOMERS REFUSE TO STFU ABOUT IT.

/You're old. You've been old since the mid-70s. Get over it.


Yet boomers aren't the ones writing for Rolling Stone or Yahoo or any of the current music magazines any longer. Nor are we program directors or marketing directors for the thousands of AM, FM, Sat or Internet radio services. We have either moved on, moved up or retired. So someone besides boomers will need to be blamed for continuing to talk about it.
 
2012-07-04 06:37:01 PM  

verbaltoxin: I'm going to pretend you didn't do something stupid like compare Don McClean to Mozart.


No, I can see boomers comparing their shiat jingles to classical music.
 
2012-07-04 06:37:26 PM  

hurdboy: Refudiated Strategerist: I'm sorry, I forgot to add, forty years in YOUR future nobody will be taking about any of the "hits" of that era as none will have left a scratch on musical history.

Perspective; the president of the United States hadn't been born "the day the music died."

I was born during the Carter Administration. My wife was in elementary school when Kurt Cobain died.

//Farking self-absorbed Boomers.


Thanks for making the point...just how few stations play Nirvana music now. There aren't 5% of the people listening to music right now who can name 10 Cobain songs.
 
2012-07-04 06:41:42 PM  
In Prison, you'll be the pie
 
2012-07-04 06:42:51 PM  
Awful, awful song. I change the station any time it comes on. It's saccharine, grating, and whiny.
 
2012-07-04 06:44:18 PM  

pion: BroVinny: Refudiated Strategerist: So, even #1 American Pie might only be played twice in a six hour shift.


Sounds insignificant, until you realize that "American Pie" twice makes up about 10 percent of that six hours!

/of course, I may be exaggerating

4.7%



Is that accounting for average amount of music time for 1972 top 40 radio stations? You know, exclusive of dj banter and commercial breaks?
 
2012-07-04 06:49:20 PM  

verbaltoxin: Harry_Seldon: verbaltoxin: It's only hung around for 40 years because BOOMERS REFUSE TO STFU ABOUT IT.

/You're old. You've been old since the mid-70s. Get over it.

That is about as dumb as saying, "Mozart's Piano Concerto No. 9 in E flat Major is over 200 years old, get over it."

I'm going to pretend you didn't do something stupid like compare Don McClean to Mozart.


Sorry, I meant to say Falco.

www.europopmusic.eu
 
2012-07-04 06:51:46 PM  
What the fark is the pompitous of love?
 
2012-07-04 06:54:01 PM  

Mugato: verbaltoxin: I'm going to pretend you didn't do something stupid like compare Don McClean to Mozart.

No, I can see boomers comparing their shiat jingles to classical music.


In the buried recesses of my mind I can see some boomers implying their shiat jingles are superior to classical music. Of course, nothing exists before or after them, as they hijacked pretty much everything in relation to themselves in their cultural hegemony; the "Greatest Generation," long thought to be failed lame-os, only became the greatest when boomers started to realize their parents must have been pretty swell to give birth to them.
 
2012-07-04 07:07:44 PM  

theorellior: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: CASEY KASEM'S AMERICAN TOP 40 - 1/15/72

There were two separate versions of "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing" on the charts at the same time?

[shudder]


That song got more play because of the Coke connection than it did in its original conception.
 
2012-07-04 07:08:50 PM  
American Pie is an hour long in dog time.
 
2012-07-04 07:14:08 PM  

Lord Jubjub: theorellior: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: CASEY KASEM'S AMERICAN TOP 40 - 1/15/72

There were two separate versions of "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing" on the charts at the same time?

[shudder]

That song got more play because of the Coke connection than it did in its original conception.


The song started as a Coke commercial... so it is only fitting.
 
2012-07-04 07:33:42 PM  

Fano: the "Greatest Generation," long thought to be failed lame-os, only became the greatest when boomers started to realize their parents must have been pretty swell to give birth to them.


This.
 
2012-07-04 07:41:29 PM  

Wayne 985: Awful, awful song. I change the station any time it comes on. It's saccharine, grating, and whiny.


And those are it's BEST qualities.
 
2012-07-04 07:51:05 PM  
Still one of my favorite songs of all time. There isn't another song that can get a bar full of strangers singing together like this one can.
 
2012-07-04 07:51:07 PM  

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Madonna's version is an even more loathed staple of Worst Covers Of All Time lists.

No, I'm pretty sure this is common knowledge.

As bad covers go, this runs neck-and-neck with Hilary Duff's version of "My Generation."

This is how it's done, ladies.


What she covered that song? Fred Durst doing "Behind Blue Eyes" still makes me wanna throw up, I'd rather listen to "Last Kiss" by Pearl Jam for an hour straight.
 
2012-07-04 08:01:50 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: I prefer "Vincent."


As someone who has chronic depression and constantly thinks about "going there", yes, Vincent is a great song.
 
2012-07-04 08:05:09 PM  
"it might make more sense to imagine he's referring to the trio of beloved American figures assassinated in the '60s: John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., and Bobby Kennedy."

No, that doesn't make any sense.
 
2012-07-04 08:09:09 PM  

consider this: Still one of my favorite songs of all time. There isn't another song that can get a bar full of strangers singing together like this one can.


Hmmm, I think you've let this one slip your mind. Let me remind you:
Voted number one in numerous worldwide polls as THE song to get a bar full of strangers singing together
 
2012-07-04 08:12:52 PM  
Ironic that he had Seeger sing backup. A lot of the song was about hippies acting like assholes.
 
2012-07-04 08:15:18 PM  

badhatharry: "it might make more sense to imagine he's referring to the trio of beloved American figures assassinated in the '60s: John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., and Bobby Kennedy."

No, that doesn't make any sense.


Shouldn't you be standing in line to sniff Reagan's skidmarks?
 
2012-07-04 08:15:31 PM  

Refudiated Strategerist: There aren't 5% of the people listening to music right now who can name 10 Cobain songs.


But the dead-tree reporters think their entire audience remembers when that song was on the radio. I don't. I wasn't born. I also wasn't born for Watergate; my parents were newlyweds. I don't remember the Iran hostage crisis, though I was alive. TFA's author probably thinks of those like they were yesterday.
 
2012-07-04 08:17:48 PM  

badhatharry: "it might make more sense to imagine he's referring to the trio of beloved American figures assassinated in the '60s: John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., and Bobby Kennedy."

No, that doesn't make any sense.


And we're fully aware that you hate Martin Luther King.
 
2012-07-04 08:30:18 PM  

consider this: Still one of my favorite songs of all time. There isn't another song that can get a bar full of strangers singing together like this one can.


This.

Cool song for other reasons, too.

The movie? Yeah, dumb as fark, and so are you if you like it.
 
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