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2012-07-04 09:02:18 AM
"You shut your whore mouth!"

www.lifenews.com
 
2012-07-04 09:11:54 AM
These scumbags make the cartels look like legit businessmen.
 
2012-07-04 09:11:54 AM
A six month patent extension in exchange for exposing children to a powerful narcotic pain killer? That sounds like a win-win to any pharma marketing exec out there.
 
2012-07-04 09:14:11 AM
My mother has cancer. She took Oxycontin and it caused horrible nightmares and hallucinations to the point where she can no longer be left alone b/c she was suicidal.
B/c her liver is farked, it took 3 days to get out of her system. She's now taking Percocet and is much happier.

I wouldn't give that crap to anyone, much less a child.
 
2012-07-04 10:01:46 AM
I'm going to say this once: Oxycontin has no effect on me. Aspirin works better.

Yeah I know.

My fear is that I will get in some accident where I will be incapacitated enough so that when I come to -ARRRGH insta pain from hell... With idiot doctors prescribing this useless medication and myself suffering from some inability to tell them not to.
 
2012-07-04 10:29:17 AM
Corporation screwing the people over to make a buck... check.
Government allowing it... check.
Any surprise from me... [ file surpr.ise not found ]
 
2012-07-04 11:08:47 AM

NewportBarGuy: These scumbags make the cartels look like legit businessmen.


The cartels actually give back to their community.
 
2012-07-04 12:25:24 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: I'm going to say this once: Oxycontin has no effect on me. Aspirin works better.

Yeah I know.

My fear is that I will get in some accident where I will be incapacitated enough so that when I come to -ARRRGH insta pain from hell... With idiot doctors prescribing this useless medication and myself suffering from some inability to tell them not to.


It doesn't do much at all for pain. It makes you feel better about it and or forget it.
 
2012-07-04 12:37:39 PM
I think that using powerful narcotic analgesics to treat pain means the doctors aren't that good at this.

I'm left to wonder how much pain starts off as psychological and ends in addiction. I've had a life threatening injury and when I regained consciousness I was puzzled to the extent that I hadn't felt pain after the first part of the incident. All the pain was transitory. I felt no anxiety that day and I've seen reports that anti-anxiety meds can sometimes be used if the patient has an allergy to the sedatives.

Now I have depressed days and my back hurts, but I know the two are related. Some days a few ibuprofen cheers me up, and some days I just stay curled up in bed because the back pain is an extension of my untreated chronic depression.

/No manic phases involved.
 
2012-07-04 12:41:58 PM
That drug making is strictly a for profit venture is one of the major reasons health care is so expensive. There is something wrong about charging the higest price the market can bear for medicine and then jumping through every patent loophole to keep those inflated prices in place. Add to the fact Medicare is handcuffed with respect to negotiating prices, we all get screwed.

I am a believer in the free market in most instances, but when the public health is at stake, the government should play a larger role......even to the point where there is a federal agency charged with developing new drugs and as soon as they develop something useful, it is released onto the market without patent protection. Also, patent laws for inventions that affect public health (drugs, medical equipment, etc) should fall under a different set of rules that puts it into the public domain more quickly.
 
2012-07-04 12:44:04 PM
Progressive patent taxation. A zero dollar fee extending from the filing date to the 1 year anniversary of filing. The next year costs one dollar. Every successive year after that doubles the previous year's payment to retain patent exclusivity.

Companies can easily project the cost of protecting their property over time. When the price of renewal is greater than the expected profits, the fee is simply not paid and the work becomes public domain.
Ideally, have it set that existing patents get taxes at the level they would be at if the rule was always in place (Have a 10 year old patent? That will be $256 to keep it another year. Have a 96 year old copyright on certain mouse characters? That will be approximately 6 septillion dollars.)

The easiest way to keep taxes down is constantly develop new things.
 
2012-07-04 01:52:31 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: I'm going to say this once: Oxycontin has no effect on me. Aspirin works better.

Yeah I know.

My fear is that I will get in some accident where I will be incapacitated enough so that when I come to -ARRRGH insta pain from hell... With idiot doctors prescribing this useless medication and myself suffering from some inability to tell them not to.


Make sure your primary knows and he can speak for you in such a case (I won't say the required God forbid, because she rarely does). Find out if you can put a codicil in your healthcare proxy.
 
2012-07-04 01:56:05 PM
Disgusting
 
2012-07-04 02:03:55 PM
Why is this a problem? Sounds like the 6-month extension is working the way it is supposed to by providing the incentive to do testing on children so as to determine safety levels etc.... Yes, it is being done in the name of profit, and yes oxy probably shouldn't be given to children. However, you need to be even handed with the incentive, and who knows, perhaps the research will help determine appropriate levels for children. Sometimes kids have horrific and painful ailments too, and for some small percentage oxy may be appropriate and this trial will make sure that it helps with pain without causing damage.

/not defending Purdue Pharma, they are pretty reprehensible, I'm just suggesting that the 6-month exclusivity incentive for research on kids is a good thing.
 
2012-07-04 02:24:57 PM

SaladMonkey: Why is this a problem? Sounds like the 6-month extension is working the way it is supposed to by providing the incentive to do testing on children so as to determine safety levels etc.... Yes, it is being done in the name of profit, and yes oxy probably shouldn't be given to children. However, you need to be even handed with the incentive, and who knows, perhaps the research will help determine appropriate levels for children. Sometimes kids have horrific and painful ailments too, and for some small percentage oxy may be appropriate and this trial will make sure that it helps with pain without causing damage.

/not defending Purdue Pharma, they are pretty reprehensible, I'm just suggesting that the 6-month exclusivity incentive for research on kids is a good thing.


So drug research on our children is a good thing in your mind?

Kids don't need drugs, a little pain is part of growing up. There are exceptions but those exceptions usually involve a hospital visit and not your pediatrician prescribing them as a way to make all three parties feel better about themselves.
 
2012-07-04 06:19:34 PM
They should hire George Benson to do some adverts. Whitney Houston would have been first choice, but you know...
 
2012-07-04 06:20:22 PM

Earpj: My mother has cancer. She took Oxycontin and it caused horrible nightmares and hallucinations to the point where she can no longer be left alone b/c she was suicidal.
B/c her liver is farked, it took 3 days to get out of her system. She's now taking Percocet and is much happier.

I wouldn't give that crap to anyone, much less a child.


Oxycontin: oxycodone continuous release.

Percocet: oxycodone+ aspirin.
 
2012-07-04 08:46:20 PM
The Sick tag must have been confined to the toilet, vomiting in disgust.
 
2012-07-04 10:00:29 PM

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!:
Oxycontin: oxycodone continuous release.

Percocet: oxycodone+ aspirin.


That (oxy + aspirin) is Percodan.

Percocet is oxycodone + Tylenol (acetaminophen).
 
2012-07-04 10:34:57 PM

joe714: NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!:
Oxycontin: oxycodone continuous release.

Percocet: oxycodone+ aspirin.

That (oxy + aspirin) is Percodan.

Percocet is oxycodone + Tylenol (acetaminophen).


My bad, you are correct good sir.
 
2012-07-04 11:02:34 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Progressive patent taxation. A zero dollar fee extending from the filing date to the 1 year anniversary of filing. The next year costs one dollar. Every successive year after that doubles the previous year's payment to retain patent exclusivity.

Companies can easily project the cost of protecting their property over time. When the price of renewal is greater than the expected profits, the fee is simply not paid and the work becomes public domain.
Ideally, have it set that existing patents get taxes at the level they would be at if the rule was always in place (Have a 10 year old patent? That will be $256 to keep it another year. Have a 96 year old copyright on certain mouse characters? That will be approximately 6 septillion dollars.)

The easiest way to keep taxes down is constantly develop new things.


THIS.
 
2012-07-04 11:38:55 PM

Lego_Addict: Disgusting


Exactly.

/I won't even take Advil for a headache anymore
//Vodka
 
2012-07-05 02:40:56 AM

Lego_Addict: SaladMonkey: Why is this a problem? Sounds like the 6-month extension is working the way it is supposed to by providing the incentive to do testing on children so as to determine safety levels etc.... Yes, it is being done in the name of profit, and yes oxy probably shouldn't be given to children. However, you need to be even handed with the incentive, and who knows, perhaps the research will help determine appropriate levels for children. Sometimes kids have horrific and painful ailments too, and for some small percentage oxy may be appropriate and this trial will make sure that it helps with pain without causing damage.

/not defending Purdue Pharma, they are pretty reprehensible, I'm just suggesting that the 6-month exclusivity incentive for research on kids is a good thing.

So drug research on our children is a good thing in your mind?

Kids don't need drugs, a little pain is part of growing up. There are exceptions but those exceptions usually involve a hospital visit and not your pediatrician prescribing them as a way to make all three parties feel better about themselves.


There are plenty of kids in hospitals everyday with massive pain issues.
I don't like the whole prolonging the patent thing,but fact is, kids are being given this drug in hospitals, it would be nice to have hard data on the use and a good idea of the problems.
 
2012-07-05 04:02:53 AM

Lego_Addict: SaladMonkey: Why is this a problem? Sounds like the 6-month extension is working the way it is supposed to by providing the incentive to do testing on children so as to determine safety levels etc.... Yes, it is being done in the name of profit, and yes oxy probably shouldn't be given to children. However, you need to be even handed with the incentive, and who knows, perhaps the research will help determine appropriate levels for children. Sometimes kids have horrific and painful ailments too, and for some small percentage oxy may be appropriate and this trial will make sure that it helps with pain without causing damage.

/not defending Purdue Pharma, they are pretty reprehensible, I'm just suggesting that the 6-month exclusivity incentive for research on kids is a good thing.

So drug research on our children is a good thing in your mind?

Kids don't need drugs, a little pain is part of growing up. There are exceptions but those exceptions usually involve a hospital visit and not your pediatrician prescribing them as a way to make all three parties feel better about themselves.


Kids get cancer. Kids have serious injury. Kids have chronic pain from a variety of other ailments. SaladMonkey is dead on.
 
2012-07-05 05:00:52 AM

Earpj: My mother has cancer. She took Oxycontin and it caused horrible nightmares and hallucinations to the point where she can no longer be left alone b/c she was suicidal.
B/c her liver is farked, it took 3 days to get out of her system. She's now taking Percocet and is much happier.

I wouldn't give that crap to anyone, much less a child.


YOU are an IDIOT. Percocet is Oxycodone and Tylenol. Oxycontin = Oxycodone!

http://www.drugs.com/percocet.html

http://www.drugs.com/oxycontin.html

Wow! The level of stupid is profound with some of you people.
 
2012-07-05 05:03:44 AM
Also, if her liver is farked, then what the hell is your doctor giving her something with Tylenol in it? It sounds more like you haven't a dammed idea what you are talking about.
 
2012-07-05 10:08:20 AM

FireNexus: Lego_Addict: SaladMonkey: Why is this a problem? Sounds like the 6-month extension is working the way it is supposed to by providing the incentive to do testing on children so as to determine safety levels etc.... Yes, it is being done in the name of profit, and yes oxy probably shouldn't be given to children. However, you need to be even handed with the incentive, and who knows, perhaps the research will help determine appropriate levels for children. Sometimes kids have horrific and painful ailments too, and for some small percentage oxy may be appropriate and this trial will make sure that it helps with pain without causing damage.

/not defending Purdue Pharma, they are pretty reprehensible, I'm just suggesting that the 6-month exclusivity incentive for research on kids is a good thing.

So drug research on our children is a good thing in your mind?

Kids don't need drugs, a little pain is part of growing up. There are exceptions but those exceptions usually involve a hospital visit and not your pediatrician prescribing them as a way to make all three parties feel better about themselves.

Kids get cancer. Kids have serious injury. Kids have chronic pain from a variety of other ailments. SaladMonkey is dead on.


That's exactly the exceptions I'm referring too. Most of those ailments require something stronger than Oxy. Besides, those situations are not the issue I was referring too. Having your family doctor thinking that prescribing a painkiller to your children for everyday problems is right or accepted is the real issue. Everyday doctors prescribe Oxy to patients who don't need it.

balancing act: Lego_Addict: SaladMonkey: Why is this a problem? Sounds like the 6-month extension is working the way it is supposed to by providing the incentive to do testing on children so as to determine safety levels etc.... Yes, it is being done in the name of profit, and yes oxy probably shouldn't be given to children. However, you need to be even handed with the incentive, and who knows, perhaps the research will help determine appropriate levels for children. Sometimes kids have horrific and painful ailments too, and for some small percentage oxy may be appropriate and this trial will make sure that it helps with pain without causing damage.

/not defending Purdue Pharma, they are pretty reprehensible, I'm just suggesting that the 6-month exclusivity incentive for research on kids is a good thing.

So drug research on our children is a good thing in your mind?

Kids don't need drugs, a little pain is part of growing up. There are exceptions but those exceptions usually involve a hospital visit and not your pediatrician prescribing them as a way to make all three parties feel better about themselves.

There are plenty of kids in hospitals everyday with massive pain issues.
I don't like the whole prolonging the patent thing,but fact is, kids are being given this drug in hospitals, it would be nice to have hard data on the use and a good idea of the problems.


Again, I'm fine with it in Hospitals when they actually need it and it's administered with supervision but these pharma companies are known to target family doctor associations, etc. to get the drug out on to the street. That's the real problem.
 
2012-07-05 10:34:33 AM
We found out after emergency surgery that Mrs W. reacts very badly to morphine and derivatives. She hallucinates and becomes paranoid/delusional and spends every waking second straining against restraints to walk out of the hospital. Abused the nursing staff and also blamed me for putting her in there in the first place. Not fun. Put her on a different drug and she became much happier. Unfortunately the pain meds she needed to recovery from surgery caused two more emergency surgeries before we figured out what was going on, but hey, that's modern health care for ya!

That said, addictive chemicals should be kept away from children if possible. Sacrificing kids for money also seems to be how modern health care is!
 
2012-07-05 10:36:33 AM
What heavy-duty painkillers are available to kids today? Not that Junior needs to be opiated out of his mind for a sprained knee (back in MY day...), but for serious injuries or chronic conditions associated with lots and lots of pain (I can't think of any off the top of my head that aren't adult or trauma-related), what palliatives are available for the under-10 set these days?

// and would medMJ fall in there?
// now THERE's some lulzy what-iffin'
 
2012-07-06 02:32:54 AM
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2012-07-06 11:51:09 AM
There is nothing wrong with this at all. Just typical liberal whining about corporations making a profit and "What about the kids?" hysteria.
 
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