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(Falkvinge)   Europe dumps ACTA   (falkvinge.net) divider line 26
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2012-07-04 10:45:48 AM
It will never end until the recording companies and production studios run out of money.
 
2012-07-04 10:46:26 AM
Europe's SOPA gets killed with an impressive majority?

Spiffy tag is apt here!

/Good call, Subs.
 
2012-07-04 10:58:44 AM

Lost Thought 00: It will never end until the recording companies and production studios run out of money.


Yep.

FTFA:

The European Commissioner responsible for the treaty, Karel de Gucht, has said that he will ignore any rejections and re-table it before the European Parliament until it passes.
 
2012-07-04 10:59:04 AM
One would think the RIAA and MPAA have taken it in the shorts enough to realize they need to rethink things, but they won't.
 
2012-07-04 11:14:43 AM
Its The Final Countdown for ACTA.
 
2012-07-04 11:20:53 AM
Don't be a pirate. Music or butt-realms.

On the flip side, don't fine someone a gayzillion dollars for illegally downloading some songs.

Used to be a pirate. Musically speaking. Then I turned 15.
 
2012-07-04 11:25:58 AM

daveUSMC: Don't be a pirate. Music or butt-realms.

On the flip side, don't fine someone a gayzillion dollars for illegally downloading some songs.

Used to be a pirate. Musically speaking. Then I turned 15.


Don't be afreud of a little piracy.
 
2012-07-04 11:53:09 AM

daveUSMC: Don't be a pirate. Music or butt-realms.

On the flip side, don't fine someone a gayzillion dollars for illegally downloading some songs.

Used to be a pirate. Musically speaking. Then I turned 15.


There's something you should read Link Eric Flint, a published author I might add wrote that.

FTFL In short, rather than worrying about online piracy - much less tying ourselves and society into knots trying to shackle everything - it just makes more sense, from a commercial as well as principled point of view - to "steal from the stealers. "

Don't bother robbing me, twit. I will cheerfully put up the stuff for free myself. Because I am quite confident that any "losses" I sustain will be more than made up for by the expansion in the size of my audience.
 
2012-07-04 12:10:24 PM

daveUSMC: On the flip side, don't fine someone a gayzillion dollars for illegally downloading some songs.


Undocumented downloading.
 
2012-07-04 12:28:26 PM
Look, I know he hasn't had a winning record in either Washington or Cleveland, but I don't see why it's any of the Europeans' business?
 
2012-07-04 12:46:01 PM
John Perry Barlow had the last word on this subject years ago (sorry, no link 'cause I'm on my mobile): http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/2.03/economy.ideas_pr.html
 
2012-07-04 01:12:20 PM

Lost Thought 00: It will never end until the recording companies and production studios run out of money.


I'm doing my part. I haven't bought music from an RIAA label since 2001.
 
2012-07-04 01:30:46 PM
Fark yeah!

*lights fireworks, starts party musics and drunks the best beer ever*
 
2012-07-04 02:01:58 PM
Submittard can't tell the difference between the continent of Europe and the European Union.
 
2012-07-04 02:26:54 PM
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2012-07-04 02:50:07 PM
Sadly Canadian politicians do whatever US tells them so
we'll get our bill passed
 
2012-07-04 05:46:52 PM
Wow, 478 and 39.
I can't imagine a vote in our US congress that would have that high of a margin and yet benefit us commoners.
 
2012-07-04 09:19:09 PM
craphound.com
 
2012-07-04 10:07:26 PM

ontariolightning: Sadly Canadian politicians do whatever US tells them so
we'll get our bill passed


Especially when the Conservatives' 37% majority gov't is in charge of the nation.

/Still, at least we won't have to also contend with ACTA if we manage an NDP-Liberal coallition in the next election
 
2012-07-04 11:44:22 PM

Mercutio74: ontariolightning: Sadly Canadian politicians do whatever US tells them so
we'll get our bill passed

Especially when the Conservatives' 37% majority gov't is in charge of the nation.

/Still, at least we won't have to also contend with ACTA if we manage an NDP-Liberal coallition in the next election


psh. they arent going to repeal it
 
2012-07-05 12:28:45 AM

Lost Thought 00: It will never end until the recording companies and production studios run out of money.


Which, given their refusal to accept new technology for distribution, will probably be sometime in the next decade tops. Sony stopped caring enough to fund anti-videotape efforts, what, 5 or 6 years after their big attempts with Sony v Betamax fell flat?

The RIAA's days are kinda numbered here. Admittedly the MPAA will likely be around in one form or another forever since Hollywood's been run by the same semi-legal cartels since the 1920s and they're willing to resort to kneecap-breaking, but the music industry has always been a bit less controllable.

spawn73: Submittard can't tell the difference between the continent of Europe and the European Union.


OK, it's pretty well understood that when we talk about "Europe" enacting laws/policies we mean the EU, in the same way that it's generally understood that when someone talks about America getting involved in another pointless brush war they don't mean some third-world nation is getting invaded by Canada or Nicaragua.

It's just how the language has worked out, review your "context clues" unit from grammar school and deal with it.
 
2012-07-05 03:38:31 AM
Came to refer to Baen.

Leaving satisfied.

/Bleek
 
2012-07-05 05:21:37 AM

Jim_Callahan: spawn73: Submittard can't tell the difference between the continent of Europe and the European Union.

OK, it's pretty well understood that when we talk about "Europe" enacting laws/policies we mean the EU, in the same way that it's generally understood that when someone talks about America getting involved in another pointless brush war they don't mean some third-world nation is getting invaded by Canada or Nicaragua.

It's just how the language has worked out, review your "context clues" unit from grammar school and deal with it.


Never. I'll fight the good fight untill people figure it out.
 
2012-07-05 09:52:40 AM

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: Lost Thought 00: It will never end until the recording companies and production studios run out of money.

Yep.

FTFA:

The European Commissioner responsible for the treaty, Karel de Gucht, has said that he will ignore any rejections and re-table it before the European Parliament until it passes.



If you read further down, it's not going to come up for a vote. It's dead. The people spoke, and the EU overwhelmingly voted it down.

It was actually my first protest rally. Thousands of Estonians flooded into Freedom Square, and wore tinfoil hats, because the prime minister had said that anybody who thought the treaty would be dangerous needed them.

Fark you, Ansip.

You're welcome, America
 
2012-07-05 03:18:29 PM

ontariolightning: Sadly Canadian politicians do whatever US tells them so
we'll get our bill passed


If you're referring to the copyright reform bill that's been going on since around 2005, that was already passed: http://www.zeropaid.com/news/101518/canadian-copyright-reform-bill-rec eives-royal-assent/

Essentially, Canada is going to have anti-circumvention laws, but it's going to still be a notice-and-notice system for allegations of infringement. What Canada has to worry about at this stage is ACTA (net surveillance for infringement on the ISP level), CETA (still waiting for a leak on that one) and the TPP (SOPA-style censorship and a three strikes law).
 
2012-07-05 06:01:30 PM

spawn73: Submittard can't tell the difference between the continent of Europe and the European Union.


Submittard has an honours degree in European Politics and is pretty sure that he does.
 
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