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(Boing Boing)   Charles Carreon drops suit against Oatmeal, realized it was too much of a mess   (boingboing.net) divider line 102
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2012-07-04 09:28:43 AM
And the Judge said "Oatmeal!? Are you crazy!?"
 
2012-07-04 09:45:52 AM
This is a story that confused me the more I read about it. I'd read articles about it trying to clarify WTF was going on, and I'd know less when I was done.

The main thing I got out of it is that it sounded like a lawyer completely losing his shiat.
 
2012-07-04 10:02:58 AM
He truly lowered the Bar.
 
2012-07-04 10:53:14 AM

jake_lex:
The main thing I got out of it is that it sounded like a lawyer completely losing his shiat.


That being said... if I was to hire a lawyer to defend me in court -I would want someone like this. Even when his client had no leg to stand on -he was still in the fight.

Bad Case -Good Lawyer.
 
2012-07-04 12:27:18 PM
Loved her as Mister F.
 
2012-07-04 12:41:18 PM
Countersuit time?
 
2012-07-04 12:42:46 PM

Felgraf: Countersuit time?


I think one for attorneys fees and other real expenses would be appropriate. Anything else would just be rubbing it in.
 
2012-07-04 12:43:46 PM
Oh, thank god.
 
2012-07-04 12:45:18 PM
Charles Carreon has told Ars Technica that he was the victor in the lawsuit, using the phrase "Mission accomplished"

That's got to be the largest misuse of that term ever uttered on dry land.

// Aircraft carriers notwithstanding.
 
2012-07-04 12:48:35 PM

Charles Carreon drops suit against Oatmeal


I guess Carreon realized his suit was

*sunglasses*

dead meat.


YEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHH!
 
2012-07-04 12:49:50 PM

Amper: Charles Carreon has told Ars Technica that he was the victor in the lawsuit, using the phrase "Mission accomplished"

That's got to be the largest misuse of that term ever uttered on dry land.

// Aircraft carriers notwithstanding.


the-op.com
COME ON!!!
 
2012-07-04 12:52:26 PM
But he said he won!

Actually, Ars Technica wrote it best:



But while it may look like Carreon has come to his senses, Ars called Carreon to comment and found him declaring the lawsuit a success. "Mission Accomplished," Carreon announced on the phone with Ars. We've heard that somewhere else before.
 
2012-07-04 12:54:22 PM

Amper: Charles Carreon has told Ars Technica that he was the victor in the lawsuit, using the phrase "Mission accomplished"

That's got to be the largest misuse of that term ever uttered on dry land.

// Aircraft carriers notwithstanding.


Goddamn my lack of refreshing.
 
2012-07-04 12:57:59 PM
He's claiming victory? Countersue this bastard for all the legal fees and get the State Bar for every state he's licensed to practice law in to investigate him.

What a farking moran.
 
2012-07-04 12:58:38 PM
The bi-i-i-ggest douche in the u-u-u-universe....
 
2012-07-04 12:59:42 PM

tzzhc4: Felgraf: Countersuit time?

I think one for attorneys fees and other real expenses would be appropriate. Anything else would just be rubbing it in.


Maybe the 4% cut of the $220k the fundraising site took too, since he was biatching about that.
 
2012-07-04 01:01:13 PM
But while it may look like Carreon has come to his senses, Ars called Carreon to comment and found him declaring the lawsuit a success. "Mission Accomplished," Carreon announced on the phone with Ars.

cdn.shopify.com
 
2012-07-04 01:04:07 PM
This to stop mess? Drop your suit against oatmeal and THEN you will realize mess.
 
2012-07-04 01:05:16 PM
I don't think we've heard the last of Charles Carreon. Anyone who would stay married to someone as batshiat as his wife has to be weapons grade crazy himself, and that degree of madness won't stay hidden away.
 
2012-07-04 01:05:39 PM

Posh Naranek: This to stop mess? Drop your suit against oatmeal and THEN you will realize mess.


Oh yeah, yeah, a $24,000 suit. COME ON!
 
2012-07-04 01:05:46 PM
Has anyone considered that maybe The Oatmeal settled? They got way more than the $20k called for in the suit. And the guy was very much against going to court from the start.

Maybe all parties involved came to an agreement that this had gone too far and found an equitable resolution. If that's the case, well, I hate to see someone like this "win," but all I was really interested in was the well being of The Oatmeal.
 
2012-07-04 01:06:00 PM
Carreon, my wayward son,
you'll have peace when you are done.
 
2012-07-04 01:06:31 PM

malaktaus: I don't think we've heard the last of Charles Carreon. Anyone who would stay married to someone as batshiat as his wife has to be weapons grade crazy himself, and that degree of madness won't stay hidden away.


I really hope so. This guy has taken Kim-Jong Il's spot of insanely funny.
 
2012-07-04 01:06:36 PM

doglover: And the Judge said "Oatmeal!? Are you crazy!?"


I see what you did there

/Pinky
 
2012-07-04 01:07:12 PM
this will give him some extra time to get that sand out of his vagina.
 
2012-07-04 01:07:38 PM

Honest Bender: Has anyone considered that maybe The Oatmeal settled? They got way more than the $20k called for in the suit. And the guy was very much against going to court from the start.

Maybe all parties involved came to an agreement that this had gone too far and found an equitable resolution. If that's the case, well, I hate to see someone like this "win," but all I was really interested in was the well being of The Oatmeal.


No, The Oatmeal has little tolerance for bs or supporting bs. I can't possibly see Inmann settling.
 
2012-07-04 01:09:12 PM
The way I see it - the demand for $20,000 in damages was basically a legal bluff to shut Inman up and get some quick cash out of him. Unfortunately for Funnyjunk, he called their bluff. And he kept calling their bluffs until they made themselves look absolutely ridiculous, and a cartoony Snidely Whiplash kind of evil.

All in all, this was quite entertaining to watch.
 
2012-07-04 01:09:31 PM
From the follow-up article:

"After asking for comment on his voluntary dismissal of charges, Carreon lilted over the phone, "I'm famous, I'm notorious.""

That was the entire goal, apparently. Mission accomplished, douchebag.
 
rpm
2012-07-04 01:09:56 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Even when his client had no leg to stand on -he was still in the fight.


He *WAS* the client. He was representing himself.
 
2012-07-04 01:10:17 PM

Honest Bender: Has anyone considered that maybe The Oatmeal settled? They got way more than the $20k called for in the suit. And the guy was very much against going to court from the start.

Maybe all parties involved came to an agreement that this had gone too far and found an equitable resolution. If that's the case, well, I hate to see someone like this "win," but all I was really interested in was the well being of The Oatmeal.


No way in Hell did Oatmeal settle. The $20k request was absolute BS from the beginning. There was no reason to settle.

Carreon is just a delusional prick, that is all.
 
2012-07-04 01:10:59 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: That being said... if I was to hire a lawyer to defend me in court -I would want someone like this. Even when his client had no leg to stand on -he was still in the fight.

Bad Case -Good Lawyer.




Bullshiat. He's not a good lawyer. He started suing for himself. It is obvious that after the first couple of rounds, Funnyjunk told him to stop - so he just ran off the reservation and started his own little crusade. But, because it started with Funnyjunk, their name is going to be associated with anything he did. Do you really want a "good lawyer" dragging your name through the papers long after you have decided the issue closed? Filing his own lawsuits based on what happened to you for his (possible) benefit? There is a difference between zealous representation and flat-out psychosis. The lawyer is supposed to be the rational one in the relationship. The only "good lawyer" in that relationship was Funnyjunk, for realizing when to just walk-away
 
2012-07-04 01:11:03 PM
cdn.arstechnica.net
"I think I made a huge mistake!"

/"Do it! Do it!!"
 
2012-07-04 01:12:13 PM
He just..ended it? I'm so disapointed. I expected this to flare into a crazy maelstrom that would devolve into overseas courst and allegations of spying wiretapping and hitmen...well this is a letdown.
 
2012-07-04 01:14:30 PM

FuturePastNow: "After asking for comment on his voluntary dismissal of charges, Carreon lilted over the phone, "I'm famous, I'm notorious.""


He might get some fleeting fame. It could last 15 seconds, 15 minutes - I doubt 15 days.
 
2012-07-04 01:14:58 PM
All hail Charles Carreon, King of Douchebags.
 
2012-07-04 01:15:06 PM
I think he finally realized that the only way for this to end if he took it all the way was to end up like Jack Thompson... Disbarred and disgraced. He had to find a graceful way to bow out before that happened. His declaration of victory is required by his ego.
 
2012-07-04 01:15:45 PM

rpm: Because People in power are Stupid: Even when his client had no leg to stand on -he was still in the fight.

He *WAS* the client. He was representing himself.


Not originally... He started out representing FunnyJunk in the copyright dispute. He only was pro se with regard to the fundraising and defamation claims.
 
2012-07-04 01:16:57 PM

XMark: The way I see it - the demand for $20,000 in damages was basically a legal bluff to shut Inman up and get some quick cash out of him. Unfortunately for Funnyjunk, he called their bluff. And he kept calling their bluffs until they made themselves look absolutely ridiculous, and a cartoony Snidely Whiplash kind of evil.


See, the thing is, Funnyjunk sussed out pretty much immediately that their bluff was called, and have not been heard from since. 90% of this whole drama was Carreon acting by himself. Considering how he has consistently represented things between Oatmeal and Funnyjunk as being directed at him personally, one wonders if Funnyjunk can sue Carreon for defamation, since his confusing of the facts implies Funnyjunk has been involved past the charity letter, when it has been his own little self going all Don Quixote.
 
2012-07-04 01:17:05 PM

StormnMormon: He just..ended it? I'm so disapointed. I expected this to flare into a crazy maelstrom that would devolve into overseas courst and allegations of spying wiretapping and hitmen...well this is a letdown.


Wyalt Derp: FuturePastNow: "After asking for comment on his voluntary dismissal of charges, Carreon lilted over the phone, "I'm famous, I'm notorious.""

He might get some fleeting fame. It could last 15 seconds, 15 minutes - I doubt 15 days.


Naw, this isn't the end. Even if he wants it to end (which I doubt he does yet), the internet never forgets.
20 years from now, people will still Google his name and find out what he's all about.
 
2012-07-04 01:18:28 PM
Will someone check if his wife has ranted about this in her self-vacuuming thread? I'd check myself, but last time I looked at her site I didn't sleep very well... what with looking into the well of pure insanity and all.
 
2012-07-04 01:20:32 PM

Honest Bender: Has anyone considered that maybe The Oatmeal settled? They got way more than the $20k called for in the suit. And the guy was very much against going to court from the start.


Read before you speculate. The EFF tore Chas a new a new one. Indegogo did a real good job as well. There was no settlement.
 
2012-07-04 01:22:44 PM

Honest Bender: Has anyone considered that maybe The Oatmeal settled? They got way more than the $20k called for in the suit. And the guy was very much against going to court from the start.

Maybe all parties involved came to an agreement that this had gone too far and found an equitable resolution. If that's the case, well, I hate to see someone like this "win," but all I was really interested in was the well being of The Oatmeal.


Doubt it. Inman rolls a little honeybadgeresque, and he's not getting a dime of the cash raised so he has no reason to bargain. I'm pretty sure he'd self-destruct before letting Funnyjunk get any of it, either - He didn't raise it to settle, it was all for charity from the start.

The way Carreon was grasping at straws, Oatmeal's been very careful to avoid any technicalities that could get in the way of the charities getting their cash, so I have no reason to think it's going anywhere other than where it should.
 
2012-07-04 01:26:48 PM
I'm sad, because the Ars and PopeHat updates have been incredibly amusing these last few weeks. These Carreon/Christoforo types don't come around every day, you know. Who knows when we'll see the next one.
 
2012-07-04 01:27:38 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: Charles Carreon drops suit against Oatmeal


I guess Carreon realized his suit was

*sunglasses*

dead meat.


YEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHH!


+1 interwebs
 
2012-07-04 01:28:35 PM
Nope, there was no settlement. Carreon filed for dismissal. This means he cancelled his lawsuit now, but he could start this up again later.

He is busy right now threatening to sue a John or Jane Doe who made a satirical Charles Carreon Blog.
His threats are even nastier now, but the people defending the Doe are from Public Citizen, a legal aid group started by Charles and Tara's hero, Ralph Nader. Needless to say, the Carreon's feel betrayed.
Paul Alan Levy, the counsel from Public Citizen, wrote Carreon a polite letter telling him that he had no case against Doe, and cited relevant cases, a few being cases that Levy himself had worked on. Charles replied with a letter stating basically that he could stretch this battle out for years. This was kind of an admission that he did in fact have no case, and that all he would be doing was testing Levy's patience and the PC's budget.
Levy has since filed suit against Carreon for declaratory relief. He basically beat Carreon to the punch by filing the suit that Charles himself had threatened to file. In evidence it includes the threatening letter that Carreon had sent to Levy, which could possibly set Carreon up for suspension or worse under Rule 11.
Still a few popcorn bowls shy of being over. If Carreon dismissed his suit against Inman though I think he might want to settle with Levy & Co.
 
2012-07-04 01:31:23 PM
Best trollololol causing ragequit I've seen in possibly ever.
 
2012-07-04 01:33:43 PM
I still think Charles Carreon is probably doing all of this to distract from the inevitable revelation that he is a pedophile or something.
 
2012-07-04 01:37:39 PM

Ford Perfect: Nope, there was no settlement. Carreon filed for dismissal. This means he cancelled his lawsuit now, but he could start this up again later.

He is busy right now threatening to sue a John or Jane Doe who made a satirical Charles Carreon Blog.
His threats are even nastier now, but the people defending the Doe are from Public Citizen, a legal aid group started by Charles and Tara's hero, Ralph Nader. Needless to say, the Carreon's feel betrayed.
Paul Alan Levy, the counsel from Public Citizen, wrote Carreon a polite letter telling him that he had no case against Doe, and cited relevant cases, a few being cases that Levy himself had worked on. Charles replied with a letter stating basically that he could stretch this battle out for years. This was kind of an admission that he did in fact have no case, and that all he would be doing was testing Levy's patience and the PC's budget.
Levy has since filed suit against Carreon for declaratory relief. He basically beat Carreon to the punch by filing the suit that Charles himself had threatened to file. In evidence it includes the threatening letter that Carreon had sent to Levy, which could possibly set Carreon up for suspension or worse under Rule 11.
Still a few popcorn bowls shy of being over. If Carreon dismissed his suit against Inman though I think he might want to settle with Levy & Co.


*Stops himself from setting aside the popcorn, goes to get a refill on the Mt Dew. This still has potential*
 
2012-07-04 01:38:05 PM

Honest Bender: Has anyone considered that maybe The Oatmeal settled? They got way more than the $20k called for in the suit. And the guy was very much against going to court from the start.

Maybe all parties involved came to an agreement that this had gone too far and found an equitable resolution. If that's the case, well, I hate to see someone like this "win," but all I was really interested in was the well being of The Oatmeal.


No. Carreon filed a motion to end the lawsuit that lets him reopen the lawsuit later if he chooses. If Inman had settled, their lawyers would have insisted that the motion to terminate preclude reopening the case.
 
2012-07-04 01:38:54 PM

Ford Perfect: follow up.


So, now Nader is going to somehow be involved in some Illuminati cover-up and threat against the Carreon's with Robert Anton Wilson pulling the strings?

/Oh, and grammar nazis, too.
 
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