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2012-07-04 05:47:27 PM

hinten: What does "marrying three wives" have to do with "marrying two adults"?
Why is this being brought up now?


Because TEH GAYS.
 
2012-07-04 05:47:51 PM

Shaggy_C: Marriage is discriminatory in general and the government should not recognize it all. Why we should be giving tax breaks and other benefits to people to going through some silly ritual from thousands of years ago is beyond me.


Don't worry, it'll become obvious to you when you start to fill out the visa paperwork for your Russian bride.
 
2012-07-04 05:58:09 PM
The author of the article wants to know the impact of this policy on bisexual men. He really, really wants to know the impact. He really, really, really wants to know. Because as long as he can claim to be bisexual, he isn't really gay.
 
2012-07-04 06:01:13 PM

Aldon: Change "children" to "heirs" if that helps you.


Helps me what? It certainly doesn't make that distinction any more logical.


At one time giving women equal rights changed laws and marriage just as radically as plural marriage would. It wasn't a good enough reason to discriminate then nor is it now.


Not really, since the biggest change was women being granted rights that men already had. There wasn't anything new being created, as would be necessary for plural marriages to be recognized.
 
2012-07-04 06:02:59 PM
Serious Black

tony41454: No one has a "right" guaranteed by the Constitution to get married. No one. You have the right to the "pursuit" of happiness, though it's no guarantee you'll find it. There are a lot of reasons people can't get married legally. Do we want a country where it's a "right" that someone can marry their sister? Men DON'T marry men. It against Mother nature.

Homosexuality has been observed in over 1500 animal species and is well-documented in over 500 of them. Are all of those species acting in defiance of Mother Nature?


Must I point out the obvious? We are not animals. Animals also mate with their own siblings, eat their young, etc. Animals have no moral code. People do. Therefore we are held to a higher standard by God (and our fellow humans).
 
2012-07-04 06:04:27 PM

clambam: The author of the article wants to know the impact of this policy on bisexual men. He really, really wants to know the impact. He really, really, really wants to know. Because as long as he can claim to be bisexual, he isn't really gay.


Pretty much. I've found that many of the vehemently anti-gay marriage folks are likely closet cases who don't want the variety at Big Rod's Mineshaft drying up.
 
2012-07-04 06:08:43 PM
Keizer_Ghidorah

tony41454: No one has a "right" guaranteed by the Constitution to get married. No one. You have the right to the "pursuit" of happiness, though it's no guarantee you'll find it. There are a lot of reasons people can't get married legally. Do we want a country where it's a "right" that someone can marry their sister? Men DON'T marry men. It against Mother nature.

Marriage itself is against Mother Nature. I don't see animals throwing weddings or signing contracts. There are plenty of species who have homosexual activities and relations, though, from great apes to fruit flies.

Technically, though, nothing that occurs is "unnatural". If it was unnatural, it wouldn't happen/exist in the first place. Like it or not, humans are animals and part of nature.


See my post above. If you want to be lumped with the lower order of creation, be my guest.
 
2012-07-04 06:12:16 PM

tony41454: Must I point out the obvious? We are not animals.


Human beings aren't animals?

What is this, Teabagger "logic?"

How old is the earth in your stellar worldview?
 
2012-07-04 06:14:00 PM

tony41454: Must I point out the obvious? We are not animals. Animals also mate with their own siblings, eat their young, etc. Animals have no moral code. People do. Therefore we are held to a higher standard by God (and our fellow humans).


All this time, I always suspected that you were just having a bit of fun with us - that that your posts were really just a layered satire of fundamentalist Christianity.

This post more or less confirms it.
 
2012-07-04 06:15:27 PM

Biological Ali: tony41454: Must I point out the obvious? We are not animals. Animals also mate with their own siblings, eat their young, etc. Animals have no moral code. People do. Therefore we are held to a higher standard by God (and our fellow humans).

All this time, I always suspected that you were just having a bit of fun with us - that that your posts were really just a layered satire of fundamentalist Christianity.

This post more or less confirms it.


Confirms Poe's Law, maybe.
 
2012-07-04 06:42:17 PM

tony41454: Keizer_Ghidorah

tony41454: No one has a "right" guaranteed by the Constitution to get married. No one. You have the right to the "pursuit" of happiness, though it's no guarantee you'll find it. There are a lot of reasons people can't get married legally. Do we want a country where it's a "right" that someone can marry their sister? Men DON'T marry men. It against Mother nature.

Marriage itself is against Mother Nature. I don't see animals throwing weddings or signing contracts. There are plenty of species who have homosexual activities and relations, though, from great apes to fruit flies.

Technically, though, nothing that occurs is "unnatural". If it was unnatural, it wouldn't happen/exist in the first place. Like it or not, humans are animals and part of nature.

See my post above. If you want to be lumped with the lower order of creation, be my guest.


Sorry, Charlie, your God/creationist/"Humans are better because we think we're special" doesn't apply. Humans are simply one species among millions inhabiting this planet. We happened to evolve intelligence as our means of survival, and because of it we gained the ability to think abstractly (not unique, several other animals have shown that ability too) and to shape the materials around us to an amazing degree (also not unique, many animals and insects make and use tools and shape their world).

Animals are not "lesser" than us. Humans are not a magic "superior" species. We are as mortal as all other life, and far more frail than a majority of it. That air of arrogance is our biggest weakness, which causes things like bigotry, discrimination, and hate. If you really want to get down to it, humans are inferior to other animals because of it.
 
2012-07-04 06:43:07 PM

Biological Ali: Aldon: Change "children" to "heirs" if that helps you.

Helps me what? It certainly doesn't make that distinction any more logical.


At one time giving women equal rights changed laws and marriage just as radically as plural marriage would. It wasn't a good enough reason to discriminate then nor is it now.

Not really, since the biggest change was women being granted rights that men already had. There wasn't anything new being created, as would be necessary for plural marriages to be recognized.


Traditionally heirs were a product of a marriage...that aspect of marriage remains pretty consistent throughout history. Look it up.

What laws need to be created for a plural marriage? Laws just need to be redefined or amended just like with gay marriage or when women gained equal rights.

Frankly going for only one party of a marriage having unique rights to both having equal rights was a more radical change than going from a two person contract to a multi person contract.
 
2012-07-04 07:04:31 PM

tony41454: Keizer_Ghidorah

tony41454: No one has a "right" guaranteed by the Constitution to get married. No one. You have the right to the "pursuit" of happiness, though it's no guarantee you'll find it. There are a lot of reasons people can't get married legally. Do we want a country where it's a "right" that someone can marry their sister? Men DON'T marry men. It against Mother nature.

Marriage itself is against Mother Nature. I don't see animals throwing weddings or signing contracts. There are plenty of species who have homosexual activities and relations, though, from great apes to fruit flies.

Technically, though, nothing that occurs is "unnatural". If it was unnatural, it wouldn't happen/exist in the first place. Like it or not, humans are animals and part of nature.

See my post above. If you want to be lumped with the lower order of creation, be my guest.


Well, it often seems like the lower orders are having more fun. And I know my dog has never tried to accuse someone of being a "lower order" because of who they like to screw. He has, however, humped their leg.
 
2012-07-04 07:17:12 PM
Rome burns as Nero ponders where it is and isn't okay for one to put their willy.
 
2012-07-04 07:23:37 PM

Aldon: Traditionally heirs were a product of a marriage...that aspect of marriage remains pretty consistent throughout history. Look it up.


What exactly do you mean by "heir"? If it's the legal definition that has been in place for a while now, you'll be glad to know that gay people can have heirs too. In fact, you can have heirs without ever having been married at all.


What laws need to be created for a plural marriage? Laws just need to be redefined or amended just like with gay marriage or when women gained equal rights.


In the case of gender equality and marriage equality, all that changed was that certain people (who were until then denied rights) were then granted rights that others actually enjoyed. The rights were already there; new ones did not need to be invented. A proclamation along the lines of "Gay marriages are now legal and enjoy the same privileges as heterosexual marriage" is all it would take to get from here to there.

You can't do that with plural marriage, because there are rights, benefits and privileges associated with marriage as we know it that just cannot translate into plural marriage without being re-written. Which is why an analogous "Polygamy is now legal and enjoys the same etc. etc. as regular marriage" won't work, because it would be meaningless without the host of revisions that would have to accompany it.

It's pretty simple to understand. Legalizing interracial and same-sex marriage allowed a group of people to enjoy a number of clearly defined rights that others had already been enjoying. Legalizing polygamy will necessitate a revised set of rights before it can be done. If you think that making those revisions is worth it, good for you. But you can make that case, I'm sure, without resorting to blatantly incorrect statements like "the distinctions [between gay and straight marriage] are as meaningful as the distinctions between plural and traditional marriage"
 
2012-07-04 07:56:02 PM
whidbey
biologica ali
Keizer_Ghidorah  
     

Sorry, Charlie, your God/creationist/"Humans are better because we think we're special" doesn't apply. Humans are simply one species among millions inhabiting this planet. We happened to evolve intelligence as our means of survival, and because of it we gained the ability to think abstractly (not unique, several other animals have shown that ability too) and to shape the materials around us to an amazing degree (also not unique, many animals and insects make and use tools and shape their world).

Animals are not "lesser" than us. Humans are not a magic "superior" species. We are as mortal as all other life, and far more frail than a majority of it. That air of arrogance is our biggest weakness, which causes things like bigotry, discrimination, and hate. If you really want to get down to it, humans are inferior to other animals because of it.


Yes, we are special because God made us in His image DOES apply. We have a moral agency and animals do not. That's why some of us discriminate and hate and sin. We have the choice to be bad or good. Animals do what they're programmed to do from the womb. It's called instinct. Man, on the other hand, learns his behavior as he grows. I'm glad that you decide to go around humping chair legs just to try to prove a point, but I think I will "choose" not to do that behavior. THAT'S the difference between man and animals. We have a choice. We have morals. We choose to commit sin. Animals just do what their instincts tell them. Like I said, if you want to lump yourself into the "lower" forms of life--worms, chickens, amoebas--then be my guest, but it's your "choice" to do so (which makes you uniquely human) and not driven by basic instinct.
 
2012-07-04 08:00:57 PM

tony41454: Yes, we are special because God made us in His image DOES apply


Maybe if you believe in God. That isn't universal, though.

We have a moral agency and animals do not.

The fact that we are animals who are sometimes homosexual really doesn't bother me. Why do you freak out about it?

We have the choice to be bad or good.

Yeah, you're right. We have the choice to realize that homosexuality is a normal process found in human beings and in other animals and we realize the smart thing is to not be a bigoted ass about it.

Animals just do what their instincts tell them.

Because being a homophobic bigot is morally superior to an animal instinct to accept homosexuality as normal behavior.

How do you justify that one?
 
2012-07-04 08:12:15 PM

tony41454: whidbey
biologica ali
Keizer_Ghidorah        

Sorry, Charlie, your God/creationist/"Humans are better because we think we're special" doesn't apply. Humans are simply one species among millions inhabiting this planet. We happened to evolve intelligence as our means of survival, and because of it we gained the ability to think abstractly (not unique, several other animals have shown that ability too) and to shape the materials around us to an amazing degree (also not unique, many animals and insects make and use tools and shape their world).

Animals are not "lesser" than us. Humans are not a magic "superior" species. We are as mortal as all other life, and far more frail than a majority of it. That air of arrogance is our biggest weakness, which causes things like bigotry, discrimination, and hate. If you really want to get down to it, humans are inferior to other animals because of it.

Yes, we are special because God made us in His image DOES apply. We have a moral agency and animals do not. That's why some of us discriminate and hate and sin. We have the choice to be bad or good. Animals do what they're programmed to do from the womb. It's called instinct. Man, on the other hand, learns his behavior as he grows. I'm glad that you decide to go around humping chair legs just to try to prove a point, but I think I will "choose" not to do that behavior. THAT'S the difference between man and animals. We have a choice. We have morals. We choose to commit sin. Animals just do what their instincts tell them. Like I said, if you want to lump yourself into the "lower" forms of life--worms, chickens, amoebas--then be my guest, but it's your "choice" to do so (which makes you uniquely human) and not driven by basic instinct.


And this kind of thinking is why you're ranting on an internet board on the fourth of July instead of being invited to a barbecue.

Seriously, I'm at work. What's your excuse?
 
2012-07-04 08:25:49 PM

rynthetyn: Someone needs to explain the difference between "bisexual" and "polyamorous" to the author of TFA.


THIS.

/Seriously, when people do this I always want to sigh and comment on the sad state of our national IQ average.
 
2012-07-04 08:56:44 PM
Keeeerist what a jackass.
 
2012-07-04 09:01:28 PM
Why would anyone but a bisexual be concerned about this?
 
2012-07-04 09:11:22 PM
l

tony41454: Some people stand in the darkness
Afraid to step into the light
Some people need to help somebody
When the edge of surrender's in sight..

Don't you worry!
Its gonna be alright
'cause I'm always ready,
I won't let you out of my sight.

I'll be ready (I'll be ready)
Never you fear (no don't you fear)
I'll be ready
Forever and always
I'm always here.


/simply because posting the lyrics of the theme from Baywatch is just as valid as the tripe you post via this particular troll account. DIAF.
 
2012-07-04 09:15:33 PM

Thoguh: This is basically the one case where I think the "slipperly slope" isn't so slippery. If the government doesn't have the right to tell you you can only marry someone of the opposite gender, why do they have the right to tell you that a marriage can only be between two consenting adults? If three consenting adults are all in love with each other and want to spend their lives together then why does the government have a right to define "marriage" in a way that excludes their love? Once you've decided the government can't define marriage why do only certain types of marriage between consenting adults remain allowed?


This is the only rational argument FOR polygamy not being illegal.

The only rational arguments AGAINST polygamy under the circumstances you describe have to do with public policy re who gets what in cases of divorce or intestate succession.
 
2012-07-04 09:41:46 PM

Thoguh: This is basically the one case where I think the "slipperly slope" isn't so slippery. If the government doesn't have the right to tell you you can only marry someone of the opposite gender, why do they have the right to tell you that a marriage can only be between two consenting adults? If three consenting adults are all in love with each other and want to spend their lives together then why does the government have a right to define "marriage" in a way that excludes their love? Once you've decided the government can't define marriage why do only certain types of marriage between consenting adults remain allowed?


Honesty I think it's ridiculous for the government to recognize marriage. It's a personal vow, not something that should be subject to government social engineering through the tax code and state/federal law. While I think there should be equal recognition under the law, ultimately the law should not bother recognizing a damn thing on who I (or you) marry.

Let the courts and civil agreements on the passing of assets work. If people can sign forms to declare marriage for the government, they can sign pre-nups, wills and other private marital agreements that become legally binding in court.
 
2012-07-04 10:06:49 PM

James F. Campbell: Serious Black: A court in Canada recently heard a case about their plural marriage ban. The opinion went through the history of plural marriage in every culture that had ever allowed it and found tons of evidence that it was bad for essentially everyone in those societies, even people who weren't actually in a plural marriage.

Citation?


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/24/world/americas/british-columbia-cou r t-upholds-canadas-polygamy-ban.html

Sorry, I would do the html code to link it, but my phone is not cooperating with me. The article has a link to the opinion that has the evidence.
 
2012-07-04 10:07:08 PM

tony41454: Yes, we are special because God made us in His image DOES apply. We have a moral agency and animals do not. That's why some of us discriminate and hate and sin. We have the choice to be bad or good. Animals do what they're programmed to do from the womb. It's called instinct. Man, on the other hand, learns his behavior as he grows. I'm glad that you decide to go around humping chair legs just to try to prove a point, but I think I will "choose" not to do that behavior. THAT'S the difference between man and animals. We have a choice. We have morals. We choose to commit sin. Animals just do what their instincts tell them. Like I said, if you want to lump yourself into the "lower" forms of life--worms, chickens, amoebas--then be my guest, but it's your "choice" to do so (which makes you uniquely human) and not driven by basic instinct.


Are we talking about the same God who created us without the knowledge of morality, then put the one thing he didn't want us to touch right smack in the middle of the garden, did a piss-poor job of keeping out Satan/the serpent, and became so angry when Adam and Eve ate a few figs and became intelligent that he cursed the entire universe to teach us a long and painful lesson? The same God who later grew so emo about a few thousand humans not doing what he wanted that he decided to destroy everything and was only swayed because one guy still liked him? The same God who repeatedly dicked with Pharaoh so he could heap more and more horrors on him and his country? The same God who demanded an old man who already followed him loyally to sacrifice his only son as a test of faith? The same God who completely destroyed Job's life because of a bet he made with Satan? The same God who slaughtered a bunch of children for calling a guy "baldy"? The same God who annihilated two cities for the crime of enjoying life?

Those sound far more like things humans would do. Which makes sense, as man created God in his own image, along with the hundreds of thousands of other deities throughout recorded history.
 
2012-07-04 10:41:42 PM

Empty Matchbook: [i3.ytimg.com image 480x360]

BISEXUALITY DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY! GOOD NIGHT!

mark12A: HI-larious watching Farkers twist themselves into knots explaining that Gay marriage is A-OK, but Polygamy is "Impractical", "Unwieldy" etc.

The line has been crossed. There is no logical basis to allow gay marriage, but not extend it to polygamy. None. You can argue that it's bad for the participants (reference the social/economic travails of societies with widespread polygamy) but that's, like, just you're opinion, man.

I argue that Gay marriage is a bad idea because of how it's going to screw up child rearing in our society, not because of any homophobia, yet I'm denounced as a bigot. Sorry, none of you can make an argument that justifies Gay Marriage, and opposes Polygamy.

Nothing left to do but let events unfold, and show through bitter, hard won, first hand experience that there's a reason that traditional marriage arose and existed in highly successful societies for hundreds of years....

So all those studies that show that kids raised by gay parents actually have a higher percentage of being well-adjusted is just...what? Liberal Science Media? You know what I wish? I wish bigots would just own it. I don't get why it's SO critical that you get to say ignorant, untrue, hateful things AND you want society to accept your viewpoint as enlightened. Just admit you don't like gays. It's like how Creationists are desperate to get Intelligent Design regarded as "science" when that goes against the entire notion of faith.


give it time. like anything "new" the first gays to adopt and raise kids I would bet are better educated and have higher incomes than those 10 years down the road, I'm sure the divorce rate will be lower for gays for the first 10-20 years as they will try harder knowing how hard the fight to just get married was and they have to make it work.

people are people and over time we screw things up lol
 
2012-07-04 10:46:07 PM
Personally, if you're at the age of consent and who you want to marry at the age of consent and able to give it far as I care you can do what ever the hell you want.

Threesome, foursome, fifteen some. Whatever.
 
2012-07-04 10:49:04 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: Is it okay if we have harems?

These would be my harem's first two members (NSFW)


i thought those were two flat chested girls at first, then i looked closer UGH
 
2012-07-04 10:53:02 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: tony41454: Keizer_Ghidorah

tony41454: No one has a "right" guaranteed by the Constitution to get married. No one. You have the right to the "pursuit" of happiness, though it's no guarantee you'll find it. There are a lot of reasons people can't get married legally. Do we want a country where it's a "right" that someone can marry their sister? Men DON'T marry men. It against Mother nature.

Marriage itself is against Mother Nature. I don't see animals throwing weddings or signing contracts. There are plenty of species who have homosexual activities and relations, though, from great apes to fruit flies.

Technically, though, nothing that occurs is "unnatural". If it was unnatural, it wouldn't happen/exist in the first place. Like it or not, humans are animals and part of nature.

See my post above. If you want to be lumped with the lower order of creation, be my guest.

Sorry, Charlie, your God/creationist/"Humans are better because we think we're special" doesn't apply. Humans are simply one species among millions inhabiting this planet. We happened to evolve intelligence as our means of survival, and because of it we gained the ability to think abstractly (not unique, several other animals have shown that ability too) and to shape the materials around us to an amazing degree (also not unique, many animals and insects make and use tools and shape their world).

Animals are not "lesser" than us. Humans are not a magic "superior" species. We are as mortal as all other life, and far more frail than a majority of it. That air of arrogance is our biggest weakness, which causes things like bigotry, discrimination, and hate. If you really want to get down to it, humans are inferior to other animals because of it.


and this is where the slippery slope really gets extra slippery and steeper. If we are all just animals, why can't i marry my dog/cat/llama.
 
2012-07-04 10:59:36 PM
Article shows a real lack of understanding of bisexuality. For bisexuals, the gender of a partner isn't #1 on the list of requirements. In some cases, gender doesn't even factor in at all. Bisexuals are attracted to a person rather than to a gender.

If a bisexual person is in a monogamous relationship with a life partner, it really isn't any different than a homosexual or heterosexual life partner commitment.

Being attracted to both sexes does not equal promiscuous sex fiend OR an inability to commit to one partner.

At least know what you are talking about when you are hating on bisexuals, please.
 
2012-07-04 11:07:36 PM
whidbey
tony41454: Yes, we are special because God made us in His image DOES apply

Maybe if you believe in God. That isn't universal, though.

We have a moral agency and animals do not.

The fact that we are animals who are sometimes homosexual really doesn't bother me. Why do you freak out about it?

We have the choice to be bad or good.

Yeah, you're right. We have the choice to realize that homosexuality is a normal process found in human beings and in other animals and we realize the smart thing is to not be a bigoted ass about it.

Animals just do what their instincts tell them.

Because being a homophobic bigot is morally superior to an animal instinct to accept homosexuality as normal behavior.

How do you justify that one?


Simple. Homosexuality is NOT normal behavior. And deep down you know it isn't.
 
2012-07-04 11:08:21 PM

Waldo Pepper: Keizer_Ghidorah: tony41454: Keizer_Ghidorah

tony41454: No one has a "right" guaranteed by the Constitution to get married. No one. You have the right to the "pursuit" of happiness, though it's no guarantee you'll find it. There are a lot of reasons people can't get married legally. Do we want a country where it's a "right" that someone can marry their sister? Men DON'T marry men. It against Mother nature.

Marriage itself is against Mother Nature. I don't see animals throwing weddings or signing contracts. There are plenty of species who have homosexual activities and relations, though, from great apes to fruit flies.

Technically, though, nothing that occurs is "unnatural". If it was unnatural, it wouldn't happen/exist in the first place. Like it or not, humans are animals and part of nature.

See my post above. If you want to be lumped with the lower order of creation, be my guest.

Sorry, Charlie, your God/creationist/"Humans are better because we think we're special" doesn't apply. Humans are simply one species among millions inhabiting this planet. We happened to evolve intelligence as our means of survival, and because of it we gained the ability to think abstractly (not unique, several other animals have shown that ability too) and to shape the materials around us to an amazing degree (also not unique, many animals and insects make and use tools and shape their world).

Animals are not "lesser" than us. Humans are not a magic "superior" species. We are as mortal as all other life, and far more frail than a majority of it. That air of arrogance is our biggest weakness, which causes things like bigotry, discrimination, and hate. If you really want to get down to it, humans are inferior to other animals because of it.

and this is where the slippery slope really gets extra slippery and steeper. If we are all just animals, why can't i marry my dog/cat/llama.


There is no "if". We are just animals, no better or worse than any of the rest. You'd have to be intensely stupid to get caught up in worrying about a significant percentage of the population getting caught up in amorous relations with their pets to the point of wanting to make sure they have visitation rights if they are hospitalized, etc.
 
2012-07-04 11:12:04 PM
Keizer_Ghidorah

Are we talking about the same God who created us without the knowledge of morality, then put the one thing he didn't want us to touch right smack in the middle of the garden, did a piss-poor job of keeping out Satan/the serpent, and became so angry when Adam and Eve ate a few figs and became intelligent that he cursed the entire universe to teach us a long and painful lesson? The same God who later grew so emo about a few thousand humans not doing what he wanted that he decided to destroy everything and was only swayed because one guy still liked him? The same God who repeatedly dicked with Pharaoh so he could heap more and more horrors on him and his country? The same God who demanded an old man who already followed him loyally to sacrifice his only son as a test of faith? The same God who completely destroyed Job's life because of a bet he made with Satan? The same God who slaughtered a bunch of children for calling a guy "baldy"? The same God who annihilated two cities for the crime of enjoying life?

Those sound far more like things humans would do. Which makes sense, as man created God in his own image, along with the hundreds of thousands of other deities throughout recorded history.


Yes, it's the same God that sent His own Son to die for us as a sacrifice for our sins, so that He (Jesus) would suffer the penalty for our behavior in turning away from God. So that now anyone who confesses with his mouth Jesus as Lord and believes in his heart that God raised Him from the dead, shall be saved. Yes, that God.
 
2012-07-04 11:15:48 PM

Repo Man: Waldo Pepper: Keizer_Ghidorah: tony41454: Keizer_Ghidorah

tony41454: No one has a "right" guaranteed by the Constitution to get married. No one. You have the right to the "pursuit" of happiness, though it's no guarantee you'll find it. There are a lot of reasons people can't get married legally. Do we want a country where it's a "right" that someone can marry their sister? Men DON'T marry men. It against Mother nature.

Marriage itself is against Mother Nature. I don't see animals throwing weddings or signing contracts. There are plenty of species who have homosexual activities and relations, though, from great apes to fruit flies.

Technically, though, nothing that occurs is "unnatural". If it was unnatural, it wouldn't happen/exist in the first place. Like it or not, humans are animals and part of nature.

See my post above. If you want to be lumped with the lower order of creation, be my guest.

Sorry, Charlie, your God/creationist/"Humans are better because we think we're special" doesn't apply. Humans are simply one species among millions inhabiting this planet. We happened to evolve intelligence as our means of survival, and because of it we gained the ability to think abstractly (not unique, several other animals have shown that ability too) and to shape the materials around us to an amazing degree (also not unique, many animals and insects make and use tools and shape their world).

Animals are not "lesser" than us. Humans are not a magic "superior" species. We are as mortal as all other life, and far more frail than a majority of it. That air of arrogance is our biggest weakness, which causes things like bigotry, discrimination, and hate. If you really want to get down to it, humans are inferior to other animals because of it.

and this is where the slippery slope really gets extra slippery and steeper. If we are all just animals, why can't i marry my dog/cat/llama.

There is no "if". We are just animals, no better or worse than any of the rest. You'd have ...


so does the scotus agree that we are no better than animals or are humans defined differently ?
 
2012-07-04 11:23:58 PM
so does the scotus agree that we are no better than animals or are humans defined differently ?

Supreme Court rulings have no bearing on biology.
 
2012-07-04 11:30:44 PM

Repo Man: so does the scotus agree that we are no better than animals or are humans defined differently ?

Supreme Court rulings have no bearing on biology.


so then man can marry a llama?
 
2012-07-04 11:31:57 PM

tony41454: Simple. Homosexuality is NOT normal behavior. And deep down you know it isn't.


Which is why it's existed since before humans appeared, hm?

tony41454: Keizer_Ghidorah

Are we talking about the same God who created us without the knowledge of morality, then put the one thing he didn't want us to touch right smack in the middle of the garden, did a piss-poor job of keeping out Satan/the serpent, and became so angry when Adam and Eve ate a few figs and became intelligent that he cursed the entire universe to teach us a long and painful lesson? The same God who later grew so emo about a few thousand humans not doing what he wanted that he decided to destroy everything and was only swayed because one guy still liked him? The same God who repeatedly dicked with Pharaoh so he could heap more and more horrors on him and his country? The same God who demanded an old man who already followed him loyally to sacrifice his only son as a test of faith? The same God who completely destroyed Job's life because of a bet he made with Satan? The same God who slaughtered a bunch of children for calling a guy "baldy"? The same God who annihilated two cities for the crime of enjoying life?

Those sound far more like things humans would do. Which makes sense, as man created God in his own image, along with the hundreds of thousands of other deities throughout recorded history.

Yes, it's the same God that sent His own Son to die for us as a sacrifice for our sins, so that He (Jesus) would suffer the penalty for our behavior in turning away from God. So that now anyone who confesses with his mouth Jesus as Lord and believes in his heart that God raised Him from the dead, shall be saved. Yes, that God.


Ah yes, I forgot about that. So instead of just waving his hand and ridding us of the "original sin" (because intelligent is truly the most evil thing ever), the all-powerful, all-loving God sends a piece of himself down to Earth to live for a few years and then be brutally killed so that it can cleanse us of the sins that God inflicted upon us in the first place, which didn't do jack-all anyways.

I've watched Tarantino movies that were less convoluted than that. You people go to such amazing lengths to demonize your fellow humans and suck God's dick.
 
2012-07-04 11:33:45 PM

Waldo Pepper: Repo Man: so does the scotus agree that we are no better than animals or are humans defined differently ?

Supreme Court rulings have no bearing on biology.

so then man can marry a llama?


I doubt a llama understands the contractual and contextual implications of marriage, and so, unable to give consent, no.
 
2012-07-04 11:37:26 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: tony41454: Simple. Homosexuality is NOT normal behavior. And deep down you know it isn't.

Which is why it's existed since before humans appeared, hm?

tony41454: Keizer_Ghidorah

Are we talking about the same God who created us without the knowledge of morality, then put the one thing he didn't want us to touch right smack in the middle of the garden, did a piss-poor job of keeping out Satan/the serpent, and became so angry when Adam and Eve ate a few figs and became intelligent that he cursed the entire universe to teach us a long and painful lesson? The same God who later grew so emo about a few thousand humans not doing what he wanted that he decided to destroy everything and was only swayed because one guy still liked him? The same God who repeatedly dicked with Pharaoh so he could heap more and more horrors on him and his country? The same God who demanded an old man who already followed him loyally to sacrifice his only son as a test of faith? The same God who completely destroyed Job's life because of a bet he made with Satan? The same God who slaughtered a bunch of children for calling a guy "baldy"? The same God who annihilated two cities for the crime of enjoying life?

Those sound far more like things humans would do. Which makes sense, as man created God in his own image, along with the hundreds of thousands of other deities throughout recorded history.

Yes, it's the same God that sent His own Son to die for us as a sacrifice for our sins, so that He (Jesus) would suffer the penalty for our behavior in turning away from God. So that now anyone who confesses with his mouth Jesus as Lord and believes in his heart that God raised Him from the dead, shall be saved. Yes, that God.

Ah yes, I forgot about that. So instead of just waving his hand and ridding us of the "original sin" (because intelligent is truly the most evil thing ever), the all-powerful, all-loving God sends a piece of himself down to Earth to live for a few years and then be brutally kille ...


and you link to a photo of two guys who look like flat chested girls, you want them in your harem and I assume your gay, dude really if these are the type of guys you find attractive then you like girls but for some reason you were rejected by the human females and have convinced yourself your gay.

doesn't seem normal to me to claim to be gay and yet go after female looking guys.

I say we take all the gay pure race of men and put them on an island and come back in 120 years and see how they have evolved, wait they would be extinct.
 
2012-07-04 11:39:10 PM

simplicimus: Waldo Pepper: Repo Man: so does the scotus agree that we are no better than animals or are humans defined differently ?

Supreme Court rulings have no bearing on biology.

so then man can marry a llama?

I doubt a llama understands the contractual and contextual implications of marriage, and so, unable to give consent, no.


doesn't have to understand, paw print on the license is pretty much all that is needed to get married.

there is no test to get married. besides my beautiful llama is really smart
 
2012-07-04 11:41:55 PM

Waldo Pepper: Keizer_Ghidorah: tony41454: Simple. Homosexuality is NOT normal behavior. And deep down you know it isn't.

Which is why it's existed since before humans appeared, hm?

tony41454: Keizer_Ghidorah

Are we talking about the same God who created us without the knowledge of morality, then put the one thing he didn't want us to touch right smack in the middle of the garden, did a piss-poor job of keeping out Satan/the serpent, and became so angry when Adam and Eve ate a few figs and became intelligent that he cursed the entire universe to teach us a long and painful lesson? The same God who later grew so emo about a few thousand humans not doing what he wanted that he decided to destroy everything and was only swayed because one guy still liked him? The same God who repeatedly dicked with Pharaoh so he could heap more and more horrors on him and his country? The same God who demanded an old man who already followed him loyally to sacrifice his only son as a test of faith? The same God who completely destroyed Job's life because of a bet he made with Satan? The same God who slaughtered a bunch of children for calling a guy "baldy"? The same God who annihilated two cities for the crime of enjoying life?

Those sound far more like things humans would do. Which makes sense, as man created God in his own image, along with the hundreds of thousands of other deities throughout recorded history.

Yes, it's the same God that sent His own Son to die for us as a sacrifice for our sins, so that He (Jesus) would suffer the penalty for our behavior in turning away from God. So that now anyone who confesses with his mouth Jesus as Lord and believes in his heart that God raised Him from the dead, shall be saved. Yes, that God.

Ah yes, I forgot about that. So instead of just waving his hand and ridding us of the "original sin" (because intelligent is truly the most evil thing ever), the all-powerful, all-loving God sends a piece of himself down to Earth to live for a few years and then ...


I'm gonna have to go with troll; I refuse to believe that someone could be this stupid, and still operate a computer.
 
2012-07-04 11:43:34 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: tony41454: Simple. Homosexuality is NOT normal behavior. And deep down you know it isn't.

Which is why it's existed since before humans appeared, hm?

how do you know, did they leave a sex tape?

tony41454: Keizer_Ghidorah

Are we talking about the same God who created us without the knowledge of morality, then put the one thing he didn't want us to touch right smack in the middle of the garden, did a piss-poor job of keeping out Satan/the serpent, and became so angry when Adam and Eve ate a few figs and became intelligent that he cursed the entire universe to teach us a long and painful lesson? The same God who later grew so emo about a few thousand humans not doing what he wanted that he decided to destroy everything and was only swayed because one guy still liked him? The same God who repeatedly dicked with Pharaoh so he could heap more and more horrors on him and his country? The same God who demanded an old man who already followed him loyally to sacrifice his only son as a test of faith? The same God who completely destroyed Job's life because of a bet he made with Satan? The same God who slaughtered a bunch of children for calling a guy "baldy"? The same God who annihilated two cities for the crime of enjoying life?

Those sound far more like things humans would do. Which makes sense, as man created God in his own image, along with the hundreds of thousands of other deities throughout recorded history.

Yes, it's the same God that sent His own Son to die for us as a sacrifice for our sins, so that He (Jesus) would suffer the penalty for our behavior in turning away from God. So that now anyone who confesses with his mouth Jesus as Lord and believes in his heart that God raised Him from the dead, shall be saved. Yes, that God.

Ah yes, I forgot about that. So instead of just waving his hand and ridding us of the "original sin" (because intelligent is truly the most evil thing ever), the all-powerful, all-loving God sends a piece of himself down to Earth to live for a few years and then be brutally kille ...

 
2012-07-04 11:49:10 PM

Waldo Pepper: simplicimus: Waldo Pepper: Repo Man: so does the scotus agree that we are no better than animals or are humans defined differently ?

Supreme Court rulings have no bearing on biology.

so then man can marry a llama?

I doubt a llama understands the contractual and contextual implications of marriage, and so, unable to give consent, no.

doesn't have to understand, paw print on the license is pretty much all that is needed to get married.

there is no test to get married. besides my beautiful llama is really smart


Both my marriages required proof of something beforehand, citizenship, residency, affidavits that I had no other concurrent marriages at the time. My dogs are really smart, and probably gay, but I don't want to marry them.
 
2012-07-04 11:51:50 PM

simplicimus: Waldo Pepper: simplicimus: Waldo Pepper: Repo Man: so does the scotus agree that we are no better than animals or are humans defined differently ?

Supreme Court rulings have no bearing on biology.

so then man can marry a llama?

I doubt a llama understands the contractual and contextual implications of marriage, and so, unable to give consent, no.

doesn't have to understand, paw print on the license is pretty much all that is needed to get married.

there is no test to get married. besides my beautiful llama is really smart

Both my marriages required proof of something beforehand, citizenship, residency, affidavits that I had no other concurrent marriages at the time. My dogs are really smart, and probably gay, but I don't want to marry them.


then you've never loved a llama.
 
2012-07-04 11:52:43 PM

tony41454: Simple. Homosexuality is NOT normal behavior. And deep down you know it isn't.


Deep down I don't give even the remotest of flying farks, and anyone who does has some serious farking issues.

NTTIAWWT, tony
 
2012-07-04 11:54:33 PM

Trapper439: tony41454: Simple. Homosexuality is NOT normal behavior. And deep down you know it isn't.

Deep down I don't give even the remotest of flying farks, and anyone who does has some serious farking issues.

NTTIAWWT, tony


then why would you respond? deep down when I don't care about something I ignore it.
 
2012-07-04 11:56:49 PM

Waldo Pepper: simplicimus: Waldo Pepper: simplicimus: Waldo Pepper: Repo Man: so does the scotus agree that we are no better than animals or are humans defined differently ?

Supreme Court rulings have no bearing on biology.

so then man can marry a llama?

I doubt a llama understands the contractual and contextual implications of marriage, and so, unable to give consent, no.

doesn't have to understand, paw print on the license is pretty much all that is needed to get married.

there is no test to get married. besides my beautiful llama is really smart

Both my marriages required proof of something beforehand, citizenship, residency, affidavits that I had no other concurrent marriages at the time. My dogs are really smart, and probably gay, but I don't want to marry them.

then you've never loved a llama.


No. I've heard they kick like sheep. Not going to risk it.
 
2012-07-05 12:14:10 AM

Repo Man: Waldo Pepper: Keizer_Ghidorah: tony41454: Simple. Homosexuality is NOT normal behavior. And deep down you know it isn't.

Which is why it's existed since before humans appeared, hm?

tony41454: Keizer_Ghidorah

Are we talking about the same God who created us without the knowledge of morality, then put the one thing he didn't want us to touch right smack in the middle of the garden, did a piss-poor job of keeping out Satan/the serpent, and became so angry when Adam and Eve ate a few figs and became intelligent that he cursed the entire universe to teach us a long and painful lesson? The same God who later grew so emo about a few thousand humans not doing what he wanted that he decided to destroy everything and was only swayed because one guy still liked him? The same God who repeatedly dicked with Pharaoh so he could heap more and more horrors on him and his country? The same God who demanded an old man who already followed him loyally to sacrifice his only son as a test of faith? The same God who completely destroyed Job's life because of a bet he made with Satan? The same God who slaughtered a bunch of children for calling a guy "baldy"? The same God who annihilated two cities for the crime of enjoying life?

Those sound far more like things humans would do. Which makes sense, as man created God in his own image, along with the hundreds of thousands of other deities throughout recorded history.

Yes, it's the same God that sent His own Son to die for us as a sacrifice for our sins, so that He (Jesus) would suffer the penalty for our behavior in turning away from God. So that now anyone who confesses with his mouth Jesus as Lord and believes in his heart that God raised Him from the dead, shall be saved. Yes, that God.

Ah yes, I forgot about that. So instead of just waving his hand and ridding us of the "original sin" (because intelligent is truly the most evil thing ever), the all-powerful, all-loving God sends a piece of himself down to Earth to live for a few y ...


I'm the stupid one for not buying into a fairy tale? Sorry, I didn't know that I'm on Bizarro World.
 
2012-07-05 12:19:43 AM

Waldo Pepper: Keizer_Ghidorah: tony41454: Simple. Homosexuality is NOT normal behavior. And deep down you know it isn't.

Which is why it's existed since before humans appeared, hm?

tony41454: Keizer_Ghidorah

Are we talking about the same God who created us without the knowledge of morality, then put the one thing he didn't want us to touch right smack in the middle of the garden, did a piss-poor job of keeping out Satan/the serpent, and became so angry when Adam and Eve ate a few figs and became intelligent that he cursed the entire universe to teach us a long and painful lesson? The same God who later grew so emo about a few thousand humans not doing what he wanted that he decided to destroy everything and was only swayed because one guy still liked him? The same God who repeatedly dicked with Pharaoh so he could heap more and more horrors on him and his country? The same God who demanded an old man who already followed him loyally to sacrifice his only son as a test of faith? The same God who completely destroyed Job's life because of a bet he made with Satan? The same God who slaughtered a bunch of children for calling a guy "baldy"? The same God who annihilated two cities for the crime of enjoying life?

Those sound far more like things humans would do. Which makes sense, as man created God in his own image, along with the hundreds of thousands of other deities throughout recorded history.

Yes, it's the same God that sent His own Son to die for us as a sacrifice for our sins, so that He (Jesus) would suffer the penalty for our behavior in turning away from God. So that now anyone who confesses with his mouth Jesus as Lord and believes in his heart that God raised Him from the dead, shall be saved. Yes, that God.

Ah yes, I forgot about that. So instead of just waving his hand and ridding us of the "original sin" (because intelligent is truly the most evil thing ever), the all-powerful, all-loving God sends a piece of himself down to Earth to live for a few years and then ...


what no answer?
 
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