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2012-07-03 08:41:21 PM  
6 votes:
I FINALLY get a chance to use this photo I took!

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2012-07-03 08:28:57 PM  
6 votes:
FINALLY France is as cool as Iowa!
2012-07-03 09:06:01 PM  
5 votes:

LectertheChef: Actually they're two seperate things. There's marriage, and then there's the civil unions, which they called PACS (pacte civil de solidarité)


To add another wrinkle, since the 1789 Revolution, French law has separated legal and religious marriage, to the point that traditionally couples had two services: the legal one recognized by the state and the religious one recognized by the church.

More recently, many French couples skipped the (expensive and pointless) religious ceremony and only went through the legal one.
2012-07-03 08:41:17 PM  
5 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: SOME gay people are ostentatious, but most are hard-working, normal people like the rest of us.

It's really perpetuating a bad stereotype when you use the term "fabulous" to denigrate them.


Shut the fark up. Seriously. Go clean the sand out of your pussy.
2012-07-03 08:56:05 PM  
4 votes:

YouPeopleAreCrazy: WorldCitizen: Yay, another country ahead of the United States in equal rights.

Key words bolded. Do we want Washington to force the decision on the States?

/think carefully about your answer


Yes. We want Washington to force the hicks in the South to give equal rites to citizens of the United States.
2012-07-03 08:53:10 PM  
4 votes:

LectertheChef: Dwight_Yeast: France accepts gay marriage. The UK will in the next few months. And the US is on the wrong side of history. Again.

Hell, Ireland's got it planned. Mother farking more Catholic than the Pope Ireland will have same sex marriage before we do.


Actually the Catholic Church's infulence in Ireland is a shell of its former self.

Guess that what happens when you diddle little boys and then try to cover up the whole thing.
2012-07-03 08:51:43 PM  
4 votes:

phunkey_monkey: Can you hear the French homosexual pedophiles cheering?


since when do pedophiles of any sort care about marriage or the law?
2012-07-03 08:39:47 PM  
4 votes:
SOME gay people are ostentatious, but most are hard-working, normal people like the rest of us.

It's really perpetuating a bad stereotype when you use the term "fabulous" to denigrate them.
2012-07-03 10:39:59 PM  
3 votes:
We are evolving towards a more civilized world. First stop, equal rights for all. Next stop, world peace. Okay, maybe there will be a couple of stops between equal rights and world peace, but tonight it feels like we're heading in the right direction.
2012-07-03 08:45:21 PM  
3 votes:
Yay, another country ahead of the United States in equal rights.

And we're supposed to be the leader of the free world?
2012-07-03 08:40:28 PM  
3 votes:
The United States should do the same
2012-07-03 11:37:57 PM  
2 votes:

WorldCitizen: Yay, another country ahead of the United States in equal rights.

And we're supposed to be the leader of the free world?


We've been consistently behind the actual 1st world in just about every major social issue. We declared ourselves leader because we excel in technology, military power, and wealth, and everyone has to do what we want or we fark them. Slavery and segregation, womens' rights, gay rights, universal health care, progressive taxation, proportional representation...The US is like a tribe of Neanderthals...armed with railguns. The worst part about it is that what should be a hyperbolic analogy actually comes close to reality when compared to modern "conservatives," who are the reason we're so farking backwards.
2012-07-03 11:19:48 PM  
2 votes:

wyltoknow: Ahh, another country falls to the gay agenda. Your nuclear families are next, breeders! Muahahaha!


dropbox.am0.co.uk

To crush the homophobes, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the freepers.

That is best in life.
2012-07-03 10:35:29 PM  
2 votes:
Dogs bark - but the caravan moves on.
2012-07-03 10:04:22 PM  
2 votes:

ontariolightning: Just legalize it so all the gay people will shut up. Don't allow this to drag on and on.. unless you want gay marriage to always be a news / election topic. We got it over with in Canada and now we barely hear a peep from them.. but of course we now have to hear it all over american news channels

END IT ALREADY


Once the US Supreme Court rules eventually rules on this an legalizes gay marriage for the entire country, we can finally put this divisive social issue behind us and move on as a society.

Just like we did with abortion.
2012-07-03 09:39:29 PM  
2 votes:

MrHappyRotter: Fun Fact: Parisians have a reputation for being rude to American tourists



I've been to Paris three times, and I have been embarrassed by loud-mouthed American tourists more times than I've been offended by the treatment from Parisians.
2012-07-03 09:16:22 PM  
2 votes:

chopit: coeyagi: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: coeyagi: Ok, well, the 500-to-1 longshot of being the last country to adopt gay marriage is out.

Taking bets!

4-to-1 Iran!
3-to-1 Saudi Arabia!
2-to-1 United States!

Vatican City. What do I win?

Damn. Good one.

Somalia.


I am going to rule against that one on a technicality. You need a government to make things legal or illegal.
2012-07-03 09:10:36 PM  
2 votes:
Same-sex marriage creates MORE married people.

Unlike divorce which creates LESS married people.

You really want to defend marriage? I have an idea.
2012-07-03 09:09:59 PM  
2 votes:

Makh: It's like they don't even care what the Republicans here think of them. France is like a bunch of liberal, elitist, socialist, Honey Badgers.


I've more respect for honey badgers than I do for the modern-day GOP.
2012-07-03 09:01:51 PM  
2 votes:
Nice!

i45.tinypic.com
2012-07-03 08:57:00 PM  
2 votes:

YouPeopleAreCrazy: WorldCitizen: Yay, another country ahead of the United States in equal rights.

Key words bolded. Do we want Washington to force the decision on the States?
What other powers do we want to grant to the current administration?
What powers do we want to grant to the next administration?

/think carefully about your answer


I suppose you think the states should have been able to vote individually on things like segregation? Southern states MIGHT have finally voted against segregation by now. It might have been a race between them and South Africa. All Americans should be entitled to equal rights. Some Americans should not be more equal than others because they happen to live in a backwards state.
2012-07-03 08:53:32 PM  
2 votes:

coeyagi: Freedom Fries to make a 10-year anniversary comeback!


I have an idea here... Let's call gay marriage French Marriage. That way when the French next piss off neocons we can call it Freedom Marriage. Right?
2012-07-03 08:50:10 PM  
2 votes:

WorldCitizen: Yay, another country ahead of the United States in equal rights.

And we're supposed to be the leader of the free world?


We are. If you're talking about prison populations and healthcare costs, that is.
2012-07-04 02:31:30 PM  
1 votes:
http://www.globalvisas.com/blog/the-best-countries-to-work-in-if-you-a re-a-woman.html


A report released last year by the World Economic Forum, known as the Global Gender Gap Report, ranked 135 countries from best to worst for women in the workforce. The report took into account four main factors which were educational attainment, health and survival, political empowerment and economic participation and opportunity.
The overall best country for women to work was Iceland. Scandinavian countries ranked at the very top of the list, with Norway, Finland, Sweden and Denmark taking the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 7th slots. Other countries within the top ten included New Zealand, Ireland, Switzerland and the Philippines.
2012-07-04 08:00:20 AM  
1 votes:

Dwight_Yeast: ThrobblefootSpectre: 2) The U.S. already is one of the most progressive nations on the planet.

We were,but we're not any more. The uphill battles for gay rights and universal healthcare prove that. Half of this country now actively opposes any forward progress and conservative pundits have worked to make "progressive" synonymous with "evil".

I've a feeling I'll be posting this a lot in the future: The "It's not, but it could be" speech from The Newsroom.


The thing though, is that as a country we've always moved forward with one half of the population kicking and screaming and fighting along the way (only to try to re-write history 50 years later to try and pretend that they were on the side of progress all along). I mean, what other country fought a bloody and divisive war in order to end slavery? America is good at many things, but making progress seem easy is not one of them.

I'm convinced that in 50 years conservative evangelicals will be doing their best to pretend that they weren't fighting gay rights every step of the way, just like today they're trying to pretend that they weren't on the wrong side of the civil rights movement.
2012-07-04 07:48:11 AM  
1 votes:

ThrobblefootSpectre: Voiceofreason01: /never really got the American disdain for the French

I suspect that's mainly because it is myth. It's like saying you don't get why Mexicans are lazy.


You guys dont remember the run up tot he Iraqi invastion in 2003 do you?

You remember the cases of French wine protestors poured into rivers on Fox?
The "We saved yer butts in ww2 and this is how your repay us" Derp?
You remember the fruitbat FL congresswoman who wanted to have all our GIs disinterred from French soil and returned to the US?
Freedom Fries?
Old Europe?

While this was the high water mark of American post 9-11 hysteria, the Haters on the Right gravitated towards the French, even though the Germans were just as against our invasion. Why? Because they epitomize all the things the American Right hates and fears, and are living proof their fears and lies are Bullshiat; theyre traditional but not religious (two go hand in hand to the American right and cant exist without the other), they have "soshulizsm" like nice long vacations, single payer health care, govt provided this that and the other and yet STILL have a strong economy... the Right LOVES to hate the French because the French system, by its existence, makes them look bad since they exist.

This, when coupled with the political noise that has accompanied the post ww2 US French political relationship (which has been complicated, more so than the UK and the German/ Us relationships have been), the French are the perfect target for anti europeanism whenever it becomes popular.
2012-07-04 07:27:27 AM  
1 votes:

Dansker: The sign reads: "Love knows no gender. Congratulations Denmark."


That's what being on the right side of history looks like.
2012-07-04 12:58:04 AM  
1 votes:

bmihura: Why does government have anything to do with marriage?

If you want to marry your bookshelf or orange cat, go for it. Just keep the legal system out of it.


Yeah well good luck trying to get the same benefits as straight married people with such a cavalier attitude as that. Or any kind of legal protection.

Did you even think about what you were posting before you hit "add comment?" Just wondering.
2012-07-04 12:48:51 AM  
1 votes:

mekki: Saying that France is more progressive than the US because of this is like comparing a senior citizen who was able to get his driver's license for the first time in January as being more progressive than the teenager who was able to get his driver's license for the first time in March because the senior got his license three months earlier.

France is much older the US. If they are so progressive, why haven't they done this much, much earlier?

For as young as a country the US is when compared to its European cousins, I think the US progresses at a much faster rate than them. Rather than taking hundreds of years to change people's minds and do something, it takes only decades, sometimes only years.


Uh, wut? Really? Just wow.
2012-07-04 12:15:05 AM  
1 votes:

instantkarma78: I guess France doesn't have a big enough black population to vote it down, like California did.


I don't think they have as many Mormons either.
2012-07-03 11:52:25 PM  
1 votes:

MrHappyRotter: Even you have to admit that gay sex is icky, what with the balls touching and such.


I don't spend a lot of time thinking about balls touching. Have a fabulous holiday!
2012-07-03 11:20:12 PM  
1 votes:

ontariolightning: paygun: I don't know why so many people make a big deal out of this. After the first gay marriage, the sanctity of marriage was destroyed. It's not like it's going to get any worse.

I think it was destroyed after the first divorce


upload.wikimedia.org

Having tired unsuccessfully to enjoy three legally-bound vaginas and several extra-marital vaginas, former Speaker Newt Gingrich divorces Angry Bird and goes full poopshoot with Larry Craig.

(C) 2013 Associated Press
2012-07-03 10:19:41 PM  
1 votes:

MrHappyRotter: ontariolightning: Just legalize it so all the gay people will shut up. Don't allow this to drag on and on.. unless you want gay marriage to always be a news / election topic. We got it over with in Canada and now we barely hear a peep from them.. but of course we now have to hear it all over american news channels

END IT ALREADY

Seriously, no need to drag it out. The whole anti-gay rhetoric is ready to go up in flames. There's no way those whack jobs could top their own antics....they've reached rock bottom now. And when you reach rock bottom, it's hard to dig deeper and flesh out the finer details you'll need to penetrate the veneer those people paint with vibrant rainbow colors and their skimpy clothing.


Its not even really noticeable when its legal unless you are gay or friend/family member is gay and want to get married. Just cause they will get benefits wont change the country one bit. The whole furor over it makes no sense. It shouldnt even be an issue. It definitely shouldn't be as big of a deal politically as it has.

They remind me of Ahmadinnerjacket when he claimed no gays lived in Iran.
I think it seriously pisses them off that gay people live in their country
2012-07-03 10:17:14 PM  
1 votes:

Klivian: KellyX: Only thing good to come out of Iowa was James T. Kirk... but anyhow, fabulous!

Wut? The movie showed him being born in space.


In the "Prime" timeline, i.e. the 5 TV series and the first 10 movies he was born in Iowa. The changed timeline from the 11th film has him born in deep space.

You know how the Narada appearing through the rift forced Kirks mother in to premature labor? Yeah, that was a change in the timeline. Kirk's dad was supposed to live, and the U.S.S. Kelvin was supposed to make it back to Earth right after that, where James Tiberius Kirk would be born in Riverside, Iowa on March 22, 2233.
2012-07-03 10:09:42 PM  
1 votes:

Dwight_Yeast: France accepts gay marriage. The UK will in the next few months. And the US is on the wrong side of history. Again.

/Weirdly, under the Code Napoleon, France has allowed gay adoption/partnership for years. Basically, any man could adopt anyone he wanted at any age (like the Romans used to do) so it was not uncommon for a gay man to adopt his lover, which then gave both men all the rights of family.


Remembering that: while Jesus never said anything negative about homosexuality, he had no qualms about healing a boy sex slave of a Roman soldier as a favor to the soldier.
2012-07-03 10:06:21 PM  
1 votes:

ontariolightning: Just legalize it so all the gay people will shut up. Don't allow this to drag on and on.. unless you want gay marriage to always be a news / election topic. We got it over with in Canada and now we barely hear a peep from them.. but of course we now have to hear it all over american news channels

END IT ALREADY


Seriously, no need to drag it out. The whole anti-gay rhetoric is ready to go up in flames. There's no way those whack jobs could top their own antics....they've reached rock bottom now. And when you reach rock bottom, it's hard to dig deeper and flesh out the finer details you'll need to penetrate the veneer those people paint with vibrant rainbow colors and their skimpy clothing.
2012-07-03 09:59:25 PM  
1 votes:

WorldCitizen: Yay, another country ahead of the United States in equal rights.

And we're supposed to be the leader of the free world?


That ended probably 40 years ago or so.
2012-07-03 09:57:49 PM  
1 votes:

JK47: Hell, far from disinterest, the State's Attorney filed a brief that basically said "Yeah, the Plaintiff is right, it is unconstitutional." The state essentially conceded on the issue.


The person named as the defendant in the lawsuit, the Clerk of Cook County, has said the suit is right, it is a violation of constitutional protections to deny gays and lesbians marriage licenses. Of course this shouldn't be too much a surprise. Illinois was the first state to do away with all laws that made homosexuality illegal, back in 1963.
2012-07-03 09:27:36 PM  
1 votes:

YouPeopleAreCrazy: words bolded. Do we want Washington to force the decision on the States?


Yes.
2012-07-03 09:25:17 PM  
1 votes:

Goldstein: Theaetetus: WorldCitizen: I suppose you think the states should have been able to vote individually on things like segregation? Southern states MIGHT have finally voted against segregation by now.

Mississippi still hasn't ratified the 13th Amendment.

Not true. 1996. It took them over 125 years, but give credit where it's due.


Technically, no... They voted on it and signed it, finally, but then they never sent the signed copy to Congress:
* Mississippi ratified the amendment in 1995, but because the state never officially notified the US Archivist, the ratification is not official.
2012-07-03 09:19:37 PM  
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: rev. dave: This surprises me. That it didn't happen 50 years ago.

There was this little conflagration that was kind of keeping people busy. Maybe you've heard of it?

WORLD WAR II


Yes, World War 2 happened in the 60's.... sigh.
2012-07-03 09:19:22 PM  
1 votes:

Theaetetus: WorldCitizen: I suppose you think the states should have been able to vote individually on things like segregation? Southern states MIGHT have finally voted against segregation by now.

Mississippi still hasn't ratified the 13th Amendment.


Not true. 1996. It took them over 125 years, but give credit where it's due.
2012-07-03 09:03:15 PM  
1 votes:

WorldCitizen: I suppose you think the states should have been able to vote individually on things like segregation? Southern states MIGHT have finally voted against segregation by now.


Mississippi still hasn't ratified the 13th Amendment.
2012-07-03 09:02:21 PM  
1 votes:
Gay Paris
2012-07-03 09:01:22 PM  
1 votes:

phunkey_monkey: Can you hear the French homosexual pedophiles cheering?


Unfortunately for you, child molestation is still illegal in France.
2012-07-03 09:00:58 PM  
1 votes:

coeyagi: Ok, well, the 500-to-1 longshot of being the last country to adopt gay marriage is out.

Taking bets!

4-to-1 Iran!
3-to-1 Saudi Arabia!
2-to-1 United States!


Vatican City. What do I win?
2012-07-03 09:00:51 PM  
1 votes:

No Line For Beer: LectertheChef: They had civil unions before, enjoyed nearly all the rights of married couples, except for adoption, and maybe one or two other things. Straight couples also have access to the civil union thing, for whatever reason.

That's because the French government doesn't recognize religious ceremonies. You can have a "church wedding," but you still have to go before their equivalent of a justice of the peace.


Actually they're two seperate things. There's marriage, and then there's the civil unions, which they called PACS (pacte civil de solidarité).
2012-07-03 09:00:27 PM  
1 votes:

Dwight_Yeast: make me some tea: We are, little by little. I predict in 10 years 3/4 of states will legalize it. The last holdouts will be Deep South states, and they'll come around eventually because they will have to.

It'll happen quicker than that. If Obama is re-elected, there will be a legal challenge on DOMA and the Justice Dept will only do the least it can to defend against it. The Supremes will hear the case and they will find DOMA and the bans on same-sex marriage at the state level unconstitutional, likely under equal protection.

I know this current court is extremely conservative, but they're also very pro-individual rights. It's basically the same court which struck down ALL sodomy laws a few years ago.


I would hope. I really don't want to have to live in a separate country from my partner for another 10 years (it will be 2 years this Thursday).
2012-07-03 08:59:58 PM  
1 votes:
make me some tea 2012-07-03 08:51:42 PM silgryphon: The United States should do the same We are, little by little. I predict in 10 years 3/4 of states will legalize it. The last holdouts will be Deep South states, and they'll come around eventually because they will have to.
======================================================

Considering like only 1 state has passed it by popular vote... 10 years is wildly optimistic for 3/4 of the states.

California will probably be legal if only for court rulings. New York I could see going for it very soon.

Hell, Hawaii, probably the bluest state in the nation has gay marriage ban in their constitution! Though, I could see that changing within 10 years.

But beyond those three states? I don't see many more.

/Sad as that is.
2012-07-03 08:58:39 PM  
1 votes:

make me some tea: We are, little by little. I predict in 10 years 3/4 of states will legalize it. The last holdouts will be Deep South states, and they'll come around eventually because they will have to.


It'll happen quicker than that. If Obama is re-elected, there will be a legal challenge on DOMA and the Justice Dept will only do the least it can to defend against it. The Supremes will hear the case and they will find DOMA and the bans on same-sex marriage at the state level unconstitutional, likely under equal protection.

I know this current court is extremely conservative, but they're also very pro-individual rights. It's basically the same court which struck down ALL sodomy laws a few years ago.
2012-07-03 08:56:19 PM  
1 votes:

phunkey_monkey: Can you hear the French homosexual pedophiles cheering?


I know. We need to make ALL marriage ILLEGAL to stop the girl abusing pedophiles.
2012-07-03 08:55:26 PM  
1 votes:

LectertheChef: They had civil unions before, enjoyed nearly all the rights of married couples, except for adoption, and maybe one or two other things. Straight couples also have access to the civil union thing, for whatever reason.


That's because the French government doesn't recognize religious ceremonies. You can have a "church wedding," but you still have to go before their equivalent of a justice of the peace.
2012-07-03 08:54:14 PM  
1 votes:

Hobodeluxe: phunkey_monkey: Can you hear the French homosexual pedophiles cheering?

since when do pedophiles of any sort care about marriage or the law?


bigfaithministries.com
Ya gotta make it legal and on the up and up if you are going to found a religion
2012-07-03 08:46:51 PM  
1 votes:
Ahh, another country falls to the gay agenda. Your nuclear families are next, breeders! Muahahaha!
2012-07-03 08:46:31 PM  
1 votes:

rocketpants: make me some tea: FINALLY France is as cool as Iowa!

This was the first thing I thought. I just assumed it was already legal in France.


They had civil unions before, enjoyed nearly all the rights of married couples, except for adoption, and maybe one or two other things. Straight couples also have access to the civil union thing, for whatever reason.
2012-07-03 08:46:19 PM  
1 votes:
MANIFIQUE!
2012-07-03 08:45:21 PM  
1 votes:
So more boycotting of France by people who can't find it on a map to follow?
2012-07-03 08:44:23 PM  
1 votes:
France accepts gay marriage. The UK will in the next few months. And the US is on the wrong side of history. Again.

/Weirdly, under the Code Napoleon, France has allowed gay adoption/partnership for years. Basically, any man could adopt anyone he wanted at any age (like the Romans used to do) so it was not uncommon for a gay man to adopt his lover, which then gave both men all the rights of family.
 
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