AverageAmericanGuy: rev. dave: This surprises me. That it didn't happen 50 years ago.

There was this little conflagration that was kind of keeping people busy. Maybe you've heard of it?

WORLD WAR II

Yes, World War 2 happened in the 60's.... sigh.

YouPeopleAreCrazy: WorldCitizen: Yay, another country ahead of the United States in equal rights.

Key words bolded. Do we want Washington to force the decision on the States?
What other powers do we want to grant to the current administration?
What powers do we want to grant to the next administration?

/think carefully about your answer

Civil marriage is a civil right. Yes, we do want civil rights to be enforced by the Fed, just like they have been since the Civil War. Some things should be left to the states to decide for themselves, but the self-evident rights of their citizens are not one of them. And it says so, right in the Constitution.

plutonium238: Preperation H stock skyrockets.

you mean KY jelly

Wait, I thought in France, the gays out number straights 3 to 1. Why wouldn't they already have legal marriage and adoptions?

coeyagi: chopit: coeyagi: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: coeyagi: Ok, well, the 500-to-1 longshot of being the last country to adopt gay marriage is out.

Taking bets!

4-to-1 Iran!
3-to-1 Saudi Arabia!
2-to-1 United States!

Vatican City. What do I win?

Damn. Good one.

Somalia.

I am going to rule against that one on a technicality. You need a government to make things legal or illegal.

I'm betting in 500 years Vatican City will still have a government, and Somalia won't.

This assumes that 500 years is enough time to allow Vatican City to be crushed and overrun by the gaywads, and rebuilt as a shrine to buttsex.

The French are mostly uncut and are well-known for their fine selection of cheeses.

Fun Fact: Parisians have a reputation for being rude to American tourists, but that is entirely unintentional, it's just hard to be friendly and welcoming when you've got a 40 cm dildo shoved into your anus.

YouPeopleAreCrazy: Key words bolded. Do we want Washington to force the decision on the States?

Yea ... pretty soon Washington will force restaurants to serve black people. Can't have that!

jake3988: make me some tea 2012-07-03 08:51:42 PM silgryphon: The United States should do the same We are, little by little. I predict in 10 years 3/4 of states will legalize it. The last holdouts will be Deep South states, and they'll come around eventually because they will have to.
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Considering like only 1 state has passed it by popular vote... 10 years is wildly optimistic for 3/4 of the states.

California will probably be legal if only for court rulings. New York I could see going for it very soon.

Hell, Hawaii, probably the bluest state in the nation has gay marriage ban in their constitution! Though, I could see that changing within 10 years.

But beyond those three states? I don't see many more.

/Sad as that is.

It's already legal in NY, Hawaii does not have a constitutional amendment banning it (just an amendment allowing it's state legislature to ban it that is over 10 years old). California will hopefully overturn prop 8 soon enough.

Other promising developments include the fact Washington and Minnesota's anti gay marriage trolls are not collecting as much money as the marriage equality groups. There is also hope in Illinois as there is a pending lawsuit challenging the anti gay marriage statute, and nobody of any relevance in the state is interested in defending the
statute in the state supreme court.

YouPeopleAreCrazy: words bolded. Do we want Washington to force the decision on the States?

Yes.

At the place in France where the ladies wear no pants, will there now be another hole in the wall for the ladies as well as the men to see it all?

Klivian: Yes. We want Washington to force the hicks in the South to give equal rites to citizens of the United States.

As long as the rites include chicken sacrifice and Cthulhu worship, I'm OK with this.

Let's get to the bottom of this: the French greened the brown!

chopit: coeyagi: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: coeyagi: Ok, well, the 500-to-1 longshot of being the last country to adopt gay marriage is out.

Taking bets!

4-to-1 Iran!
3-to-1 Saudi Arabia!
2-to-1 United States!

Vatican City. What do I win?

Damn. Good one.

Somalia.

Trick answer! Somalia isn't a country!

/i keed

LectertheChef: rev. dave: This surprises me. That it didn't happen 50 years ago.

France has actually always been surprisingly uptight about certain things. Moreso than most Americans realize, but I think that goes back to WWI, with the French being so much friendlier to black American soldiers. Most of those guys thought France was paradise compared with what they had back home. So, Americans just assume that France is some sort of free for all orgy.

I wouldn't use the word "uptight" exactly. The French accepted that gay people exist, and that their condition is a natural state a long time ago. They just relegated being gay to the class of social states that is generally kept private. Someone being gay doesn't confer the same sort of shunning and social disadvantages that it does in some parts of the States, but people also don't really "come out" there.

I guess what I'm saying is that thier "uptight" doesn't carry the same puritanistic agressiveness that ours does.

coeyagi: Freedom Fries to make a 10-year anniversary comeback!

THIS. I can see this as a rallying cry during the Republican National Convention.

Nem Wan: At the place in France where the ladies wear no pants, will there now be another hole in the wall for the ladies as well as the men to see it all?

That place is not in France, but in North Korea. And yes, the ladies can now wear pants. 굉장한 !

Is this the same Frane that the Looney Wing has been saying Obama will be in for a week?

's true. Even though Obama will be with servicemen right here in America, the Republiconservabertarian echo chamber (Karl Rove included) have been trying to push "Obama will spend July 4th in France."

Let's look at the moronic Neds, and point, and laugh.



Oh you idiots. Must you always be so angry and wrong.

*France, not Frane

FTFM

coeyagi: chopit: coeyagi: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: coeyagi: Ok, well, the 500-to-1 longshot of being the last country to adopt gay marriage is out.

Taking bets!

4-to-1 Iran!
3-to-1 Saudi Arabia!
2-to-1 United States!

Vatican City. What do I win?

Damn. Good one.

Somalia.

I am going to rule against that one on a technicality. You need a government to make things legal or illegal.

Ah! Beat me to it!

Z-clipped: LectertheChef: rev. dave: This surprises me. That it didn't happen 50 years ago.

France has actually always been surprisingly uptight about certain things. Moreso than most Americans realize, but I think that goes back to WWI, with the French being so much friendlier to black American soldiers. Most of those guys thought France was paradise compared with what they had back home. So, Americans just assume that France is some sort of free for all orgy.

I wouldn't use the word "uptight" exactly. The French accepted that gay people exist, and that their condition is a natural state a long time ago. They just relegated being gay to the class of social states that is generally kept private. Someone being gay doesn't confer the same sort of shunning and social disadvantages that it does in some parts of the States, but people also don't really "come out" there.

I guess what I'm saying is that thier "uptight" doesn't carry the same puritanistic agressiveness that ours does.

And by "aggressiveness", I of course mean "aggression".

/Defaut de l'Anglais

RodneyToady: Nice!

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I voted both "smart" and "funny" for this post.

/ currently wiping the beer from my keyboard....

Relevant (Pops)

Well that will just tickle their unstable Muslim population to death.

shower_in_my_socks: MrHappyRotter: Fun Fact: Parisians have a reputation for being rude to American tourists


I've been to Paris three times, and I have been embarrassed by loud-mouthed American tourists more times than I've been offended by the treatment from Parisians.

I get the same feeling every time I go to Busch Gardens.

Pegasus_CAG: Well that will just tickle their unstable Muslim population to death.

Unstable Muslim population? Have you ever tried to cross the Champs de Elysee during rush hour with an IED strapped to your back?

LectertheChef: Dwight_Yeast: France accepts gay marriage. The UK will in the next few months. And the US is on the wrong side of history. Again.

Hell, Ireland's got it planned. Mother farking more Catholic than the Pope Ireland will have same sex marriage before we do.

You guys speak for yourselves.

Gay marriage is legal in my state.

Doc Daneeka: LectertheChef: Dwight_Yeast: France accepts gay marriage. The UK will in the next few months. And the US is on the wrong side of history. Again.

Hell, Ireland's got it planned. Mother farking more Catholic than the Pope Ireland will have same sex marriage before we do.

You guys speak for yourselves.

Gay marriage is legal in my state.

C'mon bro. Pre-1865. The United States are.... Post-1865. The United States is....

//thanks Nic Cage!

Nem Wan: davidphogan: coeyagi: Freedom Fries to make a 10-year anniversary comeback!

I have an idea here... Let's call gay marriage French Marriage. That way when the French next piss off neocons we can call it Freedom Marriage. Right?

No, no, no, this time we'll call them Family Fries.

fn129: There is also hope in Illinois as there is a pending lawsuit challenging the anti gay marriage statute, and nobody of any relevance in the state is interested in defending the
statute in the state supreme court.


Hell, far from disinterest, the State's Attorney filed a brief that basically said "Yeah, the Plaintiff is right, it is unconstitutional." The state essentially conceded on the issue.

Des homosexuels sont sous le table!

//I know very little French.
///This makes me happy for France.

JK47: Hell, far from disinterest, the State's Attorney filed a brief that basically said "Yeah, the Plaintiff is right, it is unconstitutional." The state essentially conceded on the issue.

The person named as the defendant in the lawsuit, the Clerk of Cook County, has said the suit is right, it is a violation of constitutional protections to deny gays and lesbians marriage licenses. Of course this shouldn't be too much a surprise. Illinois was the first state to do away with all laws that made homosexuality illegal, back in 1963.

shower_in_my_socks: MrHappyRotter: Fun Fact: Parisians have a reputation for being rude to American tourists


I've been to Paris three times, and I have been embarrassed by loud-mouthed American tourists more times than I've been offended by the treatment from Parisians.

You sound French.

how bout some pics of French lesbos with armpit hair?

ontariolightning: Just legalize it so all the gay people will shut up. Don't allow this to drag on and on.. unless you want gay marriage to always be a news / election topic. We got it over with in Canada and now we barely hear a peep from them.. but of course we now have to hear it all over american news channels

END IT ALREADY

Once the US Supreme Court rules eventually rules on this an legalizes gay marriage for the entire country, we can finally put this divisive social issue behind us and move on as a society.

Just like we did with abortion.

ontariolightning: Just legalize it so all the gay people will shut up. Don't allow this to drag on and on.. unless you want gay marriage to always be a news / election topic. We got it over with in Canada and now we barely hear a peep from them.. but of course we now have to hear it all over american news channels

END IT ALREADY

Seriously, no need to drag it out. The whole anti-gay rhetoric is ready to go up in flames. There's no way those whack jobs could top their own antics....they've reached rock bottom now. And when you reach rock bottom, it's hard to dig deeper and flesh out the finer details you'll need to penetrate the veneer those people paint with vibrant rainbow colors and their skimpy clothing.

ontariolightning: Just legalize it so all the gay people will shut up. Don't allow this to drag on and on.. unless you want gay marriage to always be a news / election topic. We got it over with in Canada and now we barely hear a peep from them.. but of course we now have to hear it all over american news channels

END IT ALREADY

but then they'll want to legalize pot
then after that
they'll want to legalize oxycodone.
then benadryl (caffeine will be a schedule I narcotic too)

Dwight_Yeast: France accepts gay marriage. The UK will in the next few months. And the US is on the wrong side of history. Again.

/Weirdly, under the Code Napoleon, France has allowed gay adoption/partnership for years. Basically, any man could adopt anyone he wanted at any age (like the Romans used to do) so it was not uncommon for a gay man to adopt his lover, which then gave both men all the rights of family.

Remembering that: while Jesus never said anything negative about homosexuality, he had no qualms about healing a boy sex slave of a Roman soldier as a favor to the soldier.

I'm_OK_with_this.jpg

AverageAmericanGuy: SOME gay people are ostentatious, but most are hard-working, normal people like the rest of us.

It's really perpetuating a bad stereotype when you use the term "fabulous" to denigrate them.

True. But regardless this is a good thing and it's sad we can't get it done in the US. Also.. I did laugh at subby.