My fetish is fine, it's those other people who are sick.

How does one get "into the scene" if one were interested in getting "into the scene"?

I've never felt like furries deserve all the hate that they get. From what I see, they keep to themselves and don't try to bring it up where it isn't wanted.

Bronies on the other hand....well maybe I've run into some of the worst examples of bronies.

http://bronysay.tumblr.com/

What creeps me out about this tumblr is how many bronies follow it....

clyph: What is status within your peer group worth? Why is buying a $10k fursuit any worse then spending the same amount on, say, golf clubs to impress your buddies?

Hey. What you do is what you do. But when you do it in a public venue, like in a hotel ballroom or in a Volunteer Fire Department, and not -say - behind closed doors, then what you do becomes what I question.

I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: I hope the "inappropriate behavior" wasn't shooting up. Nothing's worse than a furry with the syringe on top.

Snort! What you did there, I see it.

MrHappyRotter: How does one get "into the scene" if one were interested in getting "into the scene"?

I'm sure there are IRC networks you can go to. Various art websites too. Some kind of socialization takes place (I don't understand that stuff) and you find people in your area and well... I suppose you take it as far as you like. I'm not interested in your personal life.

Ultraviolet Catastrophe: I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: I hope the "inappropriate behavior" wasn't shooting up. Nothing's worse than a furry with the syringe on top.

Snort! What you did there, I see it.

Oklaaaaaahoma...

ProfessorOhki: Ringshadow: Beastcub is another such artist, but Beastcub is known for her quadsuits. that big what-do with the whole taking first at SF CBF two years in a row with similar cos-

Oh, right.. Fark..

/Uh, slashies?

I'll take your word for it. I haven't been to a con in a very long time and I don't pay attention to drama much.

Ringshadow: ProfessorOhki: Ringshadow: Beastcub is another such artist, but Beastcub is known for her quadsuits. that big what-do with the whole taking first at SF CBF two years in a row with similar cos-

Oh, right.. Fark..

/Uh, slashies?

I'll take your word for it. I haven't been to a con in a very long time and I don't pay attention to drama much.

It was cosplay drama anyway; not furry drama. Not sure which is harder to watch; both are pretty popcorn worthy.

Ooooh god, briefly tried to imagine trying to wear a fursuit in the middle of a 100+ heatwave. How do people pull that off without meeting darwin en mass? Imagine the smell!

-.- Yea stuff like this is what always keeps me from getting the courage to actually -go- to cons and whatnot.

In this weather, that's crazy.

ekdikeo4: Isn't squicking where you drill a hole in someone's head, and literally brainfark them?

They had this done to them and lived?

What? Of course people have been skullfarked and survived! It happens all the time. What do you think people do when they become Neurosurgeons, after all?

Calmamity: "This video has been removed by the user."

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Could have been worse, "rescue station" could have meant it was an animal shelter.

That is absolutely, positively what I honestly thought it DID mean.

/I thought it was, like, a fundraiser...

This didn't say anything about skull-farking? Why did Subby say squick?

You farking post AT&T internet babies: learn the lingo before you type.

God damn BBS culture invents the terminology, you farkwits thinking you're cool, with your pot bellies, your small-brewery ales, and your t-shirts with retarded logos on them, farked everything up. Please- go way.

doglover: They say what they want about the ponies, this is still weirder.

nnnnnnnnnnnope

Summercat: On a happier note....

Ringshadow better damn well meet up with me at Further Confusion. Can't miss me; I'll be in the dealer's room selling my furry-themed Energy Drink.

Ya'all better remind me closer to that date! I don't have a table for FC (Do have one for Mephit). I'll have my hoops with me, and probably a fursuiting dork named FJMcCloud because he's splitting a room with me.

Meesterjojo: This didn't say anything about skull-farking? Why did Subby say squick?

You farking post AT&T internet babies: learn the lingo before you type.

God damn BBS culture invents the terminology, you farkwits thinking you're cool, with your pot bellies, your small-brewery ales, and your t-shirts with retarded logos on them, farked everything up. Please- go way.

Squick is also common nomenclature for to freak/gross/creep out. The more you know......

DannyJunior: I'd like to organize a "Fur-B-Q":

[fc09.deviantart.net image 640x232]

Theaetetus: [www.teamctf.com image 600x898]
It's not such a huge jump from Cosplay to Fursuits, y'know.

Not really. People who dress up as Cammy or Goku also dress up as giant humanoid dogs.

Furries, for the most part, feel that they're part animal in some way, like they're an animal soul trapped in a human body, or are under the guidance of some spirit animal, something like that. Dressing as an animal brings them closer to what they feel they are. Nobody who dresses like Solid Snake, Sailor Moon, or Captain Picard thinks they are that character.

Keizer_Ghidorah: Theaetetus: [www.teamctf.com image 600x898]
It's not such a huge jump from Cosplay to Fursuits, y'know.

Not really. People who dress up as Cammy or Goku don't also dress up as giant humanoid dogs.

Furries, for the most part, feel that they're part animal in some way, like they're an animal soul trapped in a human body, or are under the guidance of some spirit animal, something like that. Dressing as an animal brings them closer to what they feel they are. Nobody who dresses like Solid Snake, Sailor Moon, or Captain Picard thinks they are that character.

Damn my keyboard skills.

Keizer_Ghidorah: Theaetetus: [www.teamctf.com image 600x898]
It's not such a huge jump from Cosplay to Fursuits, y'know.

Not really. People who dress up as Cammy or Goku also dress up as giant humanoid dogs.

Furries, for the most part, feel that they're part animal in some way, like they're an animal soul trapped in a human body, or are under the guidance of some spirit animal, something like that. Dressing as an animal brings them closer to what they feel they are. Nobody who dresses like Solid Snake, Sailor Moon, or Captain Picard thinks they are that character.

Someone needs to look up Otakukin. Some people really do, for whatever bizarre reason think they're actually some anime/whatever character. Or they think they're married to the character on the astral plane. Or some other combination that makes no sense.

Your description of furries fits more with "otherkin" than it does most furries from my experience dealing with them. Otherkin are a subculture within the furry ven diagram (sharing overlap with the anime bubble to make otakukin). I think most typical furries just think their characters are cool avatars much the way a MMO char might be a representation of yourself online if you don't want guildmates creeping your Facebook, etc.

Keizer_Ghidorah: Keizer_Ghidorah: Theaetetus: [www.teamctf.com image 600x898]
It's not such a huge jump from Cosplay to Fursuits, y'know.

Not really. People who dress up as Cammy or Goku don't also dress up as giant humanoid dogs.

Furries, for the most part, feel that they're part animal in some way, like they're an animal soul trapped in a human body, or are under the guidance of some spirit animal, something like that. Dressing as an animal brings them closer to what they feel they are. Nobody who dresses like Solid Snake, Sailor Moon, or Captain Picard thinks they are that character.

Damn my keyboard skills.

You're about 110% wrong here. Lots of cosplayers feel a special connection to the character. Others would model fursuits just to dress up.

Look up "waifu" if you really want to sleep poorly tonight.

Unfortunately, I know some of the officials in the article and the west windsor area...
AND I found the youtube that was supposedly removed.
I am sad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6h1vXiTTxI

now with linkage
Link

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: ProfessorOhki: I'm generally a fan of "clusterfark" but it might be too accurate given the circumstances.

stonicus: Always a fan of "mopery"...

"Brouhaha" has a certain understated charm to it, too, actually.

I prefer the chewy elegance of "imbroglio".

Ringshadow: My gay furry romance novel is linked in my profile. And it's even available on paper now if that's your thing.

That said: only a small percentage of furries fursuit (It's expensive), and a tinier percentage of those hump in their suits (because the suits are expensive among other reasons).

You know what? Just stop talking.

The level of rage and butthurt by the furries leaving comments on one of their message boards about this fiasco has been almost Townhall-esque:

http://lulz.net/furi/res/2187633.html

PS:

Oh Helz yes it's NSFW, but who's working on July 4th?

silvervial: Oldiron_79: ZAZ: It went better than the time conservative suburban police executed a warrant in Attleboro, Mass. and discovered an S&M party. S&M is illegal in Massachusetts; consent is not a defense to harmful battery. Arrests were made.

So the Massholes are even more backwards and prudish than Mississippi?

Yes, Rammstein was arrested in Massachusetts for this stage act:

Bück Dich

24 hours in jail for the two participants (Till-top and Flake-bottom) and a ridiculous $25 dollar fine for an act they've done all over the world. Which is why the MiG tour this year in the US had a face-mounted water spraying thingy instead. MASSholes indeed.

/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jN1QNrfeXg
//in case the link above doesn't work

Some days i am very proud of my German ancestry. This is one of them. God i love those kinky bastages.

/except the Scheiße porn
//could do without that.

The Staff from the FurBQ previously admitted what happened.

"Follow-Up To NJ FurBQ Post from last week...

By razor_wulff, 5 hours ago

YEA ..MY GROUPS! -->
Yes folks... everything you have been hearing is true. The event will no longer happen.

Here are the items we can release regarding the decision:

Yes, there is graphic photographic evidence of "inappropriate fursuit extra-curriculars" taking place on a vehicle, in front of the building in broad daylight during the BBQ. There were kids and a town council member who witnessed this. The pictures were filed at a PUBLIC town council meeting and are now being investigated by the Mayor, Chief of Police, and the squad.

NO we cannot and will not move the event somewhere else. NJ FurBQ is NO MORE. So please don't ask anymore.

YES there may be some legal repercussions that may happen to the 2 parties involved.

For those of you who think that this is "no big deal"... think about this for a second: 1) Furry as a whole is now publicly in the limelight due to this event. I can assure you that this area will be pretty much devoid of furry events...simply because no one will house our events anymore. The EMS and Fire community is small enough that word of this has spread like wildfire in the neighboring communities. 2) Tony is a Lieutenant and Trustee at the Squad... it's possible he may lose his job because of these two idiots... 3) Shortwave, myself, and Aeon also have jobs that could be affected by this as well.

The Twin "W" Rescue squad was punished because of the actions of these two individuals... because they were the host venue and they bear the town's name. Not only were they the subject of humiliation at a public town meeting but $55,000 was stripped from their annual budget and they are no longer recieving the "go ahead" to order 2 new ambulances...which the squad was pressing for in order to remain in service.

So furries... you've done it again (at least 2 of you). Only this time you took our charity and instead of being the heroes and donating $600 so they could buy new equipment ...we've cost them almost $280,000 (2 ambulances + 55,000). You may have possibly cost up to 5 people their jobs, you've smeared the reputation of furry further into the mud, and pretty much pissed off AT MINIMUM 263 people who rightfully enjoy the FurBQ every year....just so you can blow a load on a car hood. Absolutely disgraceful....and I really hope the town prosecutes the shiat out of you for whatever they can.

That is all I am saying about this.... be on the lookout for posts from Shrotwave and Tony as well.... only I don't think theirs will be as "nice".

Thanks a lot... you 2 should be ashamed and I really hope I don't ever find out who it is."

Keizer_Ghidorah: Furries, for the most part, feel that they're part animal in some way, like they're an animal soul trapped in a human body, or are under the guidance of some spirit animal, something like that. Dressing as an animal brings them closer to what they feel they are. Nobody who dresses like Solid Snake, Sailor Moon, or Captain Picard thinks they are that character.

Now, the department of things you wish you had never heard of bring you: "Otakukin" (Link goes to ED so assume NSFW)

Summercat: All dead and gone now because two farktards thought it'd be funny to hump each other in suit in public. I ever find out for certain who these guys are, I'll be doing all I can do make certain that they'll not find a happy welcome within the fandom elsewhere.

Ooo-RAH!, Fur Warrior! This Will Not Stand!

/furry but unbowed, etc...
//gag

Moonk: silvervial:

Yes, Rammstein was arrested in Massachusetts for this stage act:

Bück Dich

24 hours in jail for the two participants (Till-top and Flake-bottom) and a ridiculous $25 dollar fine for an act they've done all over the world. Which is why the MiG tour this year in the US had a face-mounted water spraying thingy instead. MASSholes indeed.

/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jN1QNrfeXg
//in case the link above doesn't work

Some days i am very proud of my German ancestry. This is one of them. God i love those kinky bastages.

/except the Scheiße porn
//could do without that.

I love those kinky bastages, too. This video is what made me a devoted and dedicated Rammstein fan.

I always loved Germans in general. Spent nearly 5 years in Germany as a child.

/never seen one speck of Scheiße porn in my life and have no idea how or why it got associated with Germany...

Hey, assholes. Learn a thing or two:

"And that means, of course, that something which we might call hedonic opportunity cost is seldom far from my consciousness. Our lives are not so good, not even close to so good, that we can afford to throw away pleasures, should fortune put the opportunity of achieving any into our grasp. There is a gem of bitter wisdom offered up by Silenus to Midas, a gem unearthed by Plutarch and given its most noble setting by Nietzsche in his Birth of Tragedy. It is this: that for human beings the best thing is not to be born at all, and the second best thing is, if one has been born, to die as soon as possible. That life might be more a burden than a benefit, that it might even be a misfortune ever to have come into existence, is too close to the truth as it is, as the philosopher David Benatar has pointed out in a series of not-enough-attended-to arguments. We need to do as well as we can. Let us not be so foolish as to throw away pleasure." - A Thaumatophile Manifesto (NSFW)

Give people respect, even if you don't like their kinks, then maybe everyone can enjoy their kinks and find some iota of happiness in this world. There's no need to make it worse by harassing them... you yammering shiatbags.

TV's Vinnie: There were kids and a town council member who witnessed this.


Mommy, Daddy, what is the big kitty doing to the big puppy?
Don't look dear, the police are handling it. It'll be ok.
Daddy I don't wanna go to Disneyland for my birthday any more. *cries*

TV's Vinnie: Thanks a lot... you 2 should be ashamed and I really hope I don't ever find out who it is."

deviants gonna deviate

James F. Campbell: There's no need to make it worse by harassing them...

Actually the world is made better by harassing them, one cancelled bbq at a time

Summercat: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier:


I'll ask this because I don't know: Does the fur community hold that belief (and if so, to what degree) or was it just me meeting a couple of screwballs?

There is no single furry community. None. Zero. Zilch. There's a zillion of them, and they're non-exclusive memberships. Some groups hold that belief, yes. Some don't. Some furries ARE the "We are really animals", but that's not everyone. By far.

When you think of the Furry Fandom, think of it more like 'The Scifi Fandom' or 'The Fantasy fandom'. We are a very non-doctrinal bunch, after all.

Don't try to insert or compare your freaky shiat sex fetish into/with legit fandoms.

Meethos: Don't try to insert or compare your freaky shiat sex fetish into/with legit fandoms.

[Citation Needed] That people who view themselves or their online personas as part of Furry Fandom do it because it's a fetish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphism

As a literary device, anthropomorphism is strongly associated with art and storytelling where it has ancient roots. Most cultures possess a long-standing fable tradition with anthropomorphised animals as characters that can stand as commonly recognised types of human behavior. In contrast to this, conventional Western science, as well as such religious doctrines as the Christian Great Chain of Being propound the opposite, anthropocentric belief that animals, plants and non-living things, unlike humans, lack spiritual and mental attributes, immortal souls, and anything other than relatively limited awareness.