tenpoundsofcheese:
you really should learn how the judicial system works.

you DO know that Obama isn't a Supreme Court Justice, right? SCOTUS called it a tax and - by definition - if SCOTUS ruled it a tax, then it's a tax. But that was SCOTUS what made that decision, not Obama...because Obama isn't on the Supreme Court.

I don't think i'm the one who needs a refresher course on the branches of the US government and a review of what they all do...

jigger: Weaver95: jigger: Weaver95: ok, it's a tax. there - that wasn't so hard, now was it?

It seems to be pretty hard for the Democrats. They do not want to call it a tax.

nah - it's only a big deal to the Norquist blood cultists. the rest of the world really doesn't care if you call it a tax or not.

Uh, no. You need to watch interviews. When repeatedly asked if it's a tax, they're all like "Hell, no. Stop saying that it's a tax. It's not a tax."

Yeah, politically it blows to call it a tax. When reality is introduced.... who gives a f*ck? Get insurance you ass clown and then where it the problem?

jigger: Weaver95: jigger: Weaver95: ok, it's a tax. there - that wasn't so hard, now was it?

It seems to be pretty hard for the Democrats. They do not want to call it a tax.

nah - it's only a big deal to the Norquist blood cultists. the rest of the world really doesn't care if you call it a tax or not.

Uh, no. You need to watch interviews. When repeatedly asked if it's a tax, they're all like "Hell, no. Stop saying that it's a tax. It's not a tax."

yeah, the Norquist blood cult has been pushing that meme since day one. personally, I've always wondered how the manage to nail themselves up on those crosses but never wanted to get close enough to find out the details.

GoldSpider: Weaver95: if that's what gets you through the day, then have at it....but this law IS a step in the right direction.

It's a deal with the Devil; more people are covered, but the insurance companies' grip on our collective balls has never been tighter.

oh that was going to happen no matter what. the GOP considers being raped by a corporation to be an honor, so they were always going to make sure that corporations can loot and pillage us at will.

Agneska: There is no such thing as "government assistance," just like there is no such thing as a free lunch. Someone, somewhere will have to pay out of their own pocket.

Kind of like when these currently uninsured people end up in the emergency room for much more expensive care and the rest of us have to pay for it. Time to end the free lunch, amirite?

jigger:

"Just do what we say and there won't be a problem."

well, that covers the war on drugs and the war on terror...

Weaver95: the press hasn't really done a very good job at challenging the lies told about Obamacare.

And how much money have they made doing that.

Or not doing that, rather.

jigger: qorkfiend: I could call it a Happy Funland Token and it would change absolutely nothing.

It wouldn't change the fact that legally it's a tax.


Mrtraveler01: jigger: Not sure why they aren't interested in the severe market restrictions on the state level.

Because deregulating the insurance industry and taking power away from the states will just result in a race to the bottom where all the insurance companies will be based in their equivalent of Delaware where they can get by offering as little as they can and charge as much as they can.

Just look at the spectacular job it did with the credit card industry.

They are the same industry and work the same!

qorkfiend: And that changes what, exactly?

That no matter what you call it, legally it's a tax.

coeyagi: Yeah, politically it blows to call it a tax. When reality is introduced.... who gives a f*ck?

Why aren't they proud of it?

Get insurance you ass clown and then where it the problem?

"Just do what we say and there won't be a problem."

They are proud of the law and yet all the tards are talking about is taxation. Do you honestly think the best political course is to not try to divert away from that? If you do.... you should be getting fed apple sauce by a disinterested juvenile doing his community service hours.

tenpoundsofcheese:
They ruled that what 0bama created is a tax. 0bama, the constitutional scholar, created it, not the SCOTUS.

If 0bama created something else and called it a magic unicorn fee and the SCOTUS determines it is a tax, then it is 0bama who is responsible for taxing people, NOT SCOTUS.

seriously, this is weak even for you.
It is a tax (as you said),
0bama created it
He can always work to repeal it if he doesn't like taxing people under 250k...but he won't since he is okay with taxing people.

Hmm...I remember a day when no member of the GOP would DARE stand for anyone to utter an insulting comment about a sitting president of the United States, nor would they allow someone to distort the name of said President. 'respect the office' was their mantra...at least when Bush was in office. Has the Republican party fallen that far?

*sigh*

as to your comments....Obama didn't rule it a tax. SCOTUS did. Hence, SCOTUS made it a tax. not that this is a big deal - what it's called doesn't really matter to most of the country.

Agneska: Middle and upper class people already have insurance, so this tax doesn't affect them. Those likely not to have insurance are lower middle class and poor people, which include Blacks, Latinos, students, single mothers, and hippies. So here's the groovy medicine Obama wants you to take:

1. Do A and pay X amount of dollars.

or

2. Do B and pay X amount of dollars.

Either way, girls, you're screwed.

Since I'm one of those affected and since the groovy medicine also requires insurance companies to stop refusing me insurance, this is a pleasure-f*ck as far as I'm concerned.

jjorsett: Waxing_Chewbacca: BillCo: 11. Is Obamacare a bloated welfare program that will tax middle class Americans and bankrupt the United States?

Answer: Yes, the law will do this.

9/10 - yes, I understand it.

10/11 if you count this one.

Thanks for adding nothing. My hope is you die from a preventable disease because you lose your healthcare. Have a great day.

Another leftie shows its true nature.

They're all secretly in favor of the Republican healthcare plan?

jigger: Weaver95: jigger:

"Just do what we say and there won't be a problem."

well, that covers the war on drugs and the war on terror...

So, you admit that this is yet more government tyranny?.

i'm saying that if you were concerned about 'government tyranny' then were were you when the government passed the patriot act? where were you when Congress passed those asinine property seizure laws for the war on drugs? where were you when the cops were curb stomping the Occupy movement?

you don't get to flat out ignore almost 20 years of creeping government authoritarian control over each and every one of us and NOW suddenly start crying about 'government tyranny'. you're a bit late to the party.

Agneska: And now you will have the privilege of not only paying for the emergencies, but also the sniffles, the infected paper cuts, ingrown toenails, chipped tooth, ear infection, flea bites, genital warts, etc.

So my money goes to pay for part of the ounce of prevention rather than the entire pound of cure? GOBAMA 2012.

jigger: coeyagi: They are proud of the law and yet all the tards are talking about is taxation. Do you honestly think the best political course is to not try to divert away from that? If you do.... you should be getting fed apple sauce by a disinterested juvenile doing his community service hours.

They aren't proud of it being a tax.

You should really rail on them for not trusting Americans and hoping everyone will be responsible (also see "GOP values").