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2012-07-03 11:24:28 AM

mightybaldking: I'm sympathetic to the anti-golf attitude women have. A full round of golf is 6-8 hours all in including transportation time and warm up and "cool down". That's half the weekend. It's not like you're going out to play hockey or baseball for an hour or so. It's an entire day.


Another thing I dig about my wife is the fact she doesnt hate my hobbies (motorcycles, rc aircraft). She understands the need to have "apart" time. The trick about it is not do be doing these things all the time, it's a balancing act.

She owns her own bike as well and got me back into the motorcycle thing after 20 years, so I've got that going for me as well.
 
2012-07-03 11:24:28 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: You mean they don't? Huh. I thought all men wrote their name in the snow.


A man who can write his name in the snow with his excrements will have a statue raised to his glory in front of all sports bars.
 
2012-07-03 11:24:45 AM

Biv: Because girls never just cry. Once tears start flowing the conversation turns emotional and nothing can be done. Time to shut down the conversation until you compose yourself.


Men should not try to have "conversations" with women. At least, not conversations where you expect to exchange information. That almost never happens.

The female mind is a perfectly insular bubble of solipsistic emotion. They have a completely different experience with this thing that men know as "objective reality." Women are not connected to it, and so they are often confused and frustrated when men keep referring to it as though it means something.

This is why women make lousy engineers and even worse lawyers. Women can engage in logical reasoning the way that parrots can engage in human speech. They are, however, good at jobs that involve caretaking (nurses, teachers) and socializing in ways that involve running their mouths (PR, HR, some aspects of marketing).
 
2012-07-03 11:24:57 AM

The Singing Bush: R.A.Danny: gamergirl23: The Singing Bush: gamergirl23: The Singing Bush: I think it's hilarious that she doesn't follow number 9. My wife is terrible about this -

Me: Where do you want to go to dinner?
Her: I don't know, I'm not sure what I want
Me: How about here, or here, or here, or here, or here?
Her: No, none of those sound good.
Me: Well what do you want?
Her: Why can't YOU make a decision?
Me - head asplode

This is why one should have a default food/drink/activity. If you don't care but someone really wants you to pick, you just pick that to politely prevent them from going insane.

Tried that - she'll come back with "but we just did that like 6 months ago"

I don't know. Have her keep a list of her favorite restaurants in the car with the dates you last visited them?

My rule: If you make me choose where to go, you shut up about where we're going.

Otherwise I'd be happy to work with you towards picking a place, but don't tell me to choose unless you're ready to shut up and eat some damn BBQ.

I typically say Taco Bell as a threat. Amazingly, she'll start figuring out what she's in the mood for.


All my wife ever wants is Taco Bell and cheeseburgers.
 
2012-07-03 11:25:16 AM

Hack Patooey: Missing is the classic "When did this start happening" redirection. i.e.

Man: XyZ is bothering me, can we talk about it?
Woman: When did this start being a problem?
Man: Not sure, a while, ago, but it needs to be addressed.
Woman: Why didn't you tell me before, before it became a problem?

...and then the conversation is no longer about the issue that *I* brought up, which never gets resolved.


Posts like these make me wonder why any male would want a woman in the first place. Seriously, why the fark would you bring up something that is not a problem?

Woman: I need to fix the car
Man: What is broken
Woman: Nothing is broken
Man: ???????
 
2012-07-03 11:25:30 AM

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Jesus, these threads are a GOLDMINE for my ignore list.

Write something inflammatory. DO IT.


Well, okay...let me think of a good one, here...

Gold mine is two words, you stupid broad.
 
2012-07-03 11:26:06 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: You mean they don't? Huh. I thought all men wrote their name in the snow.


www.billboard.com

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2012-07-03 11:26:27 AM

Animatronik: I think you're deluding yourself if you think its that simple. I can relate better to what Peter O'Toole said, that he'd made a study of women for many years and learned nothing from it.


I don't know that I'd say things are simple... just because something can be simply explained doesn't mean the actual execution of things isn't very complex or that the reasons for it being that way aren't complex. The women I've discussed this with have tended to agree with the generality I stated (alphas get the motor going, betas are more attractive for an actual relationship), but the causes for their agreement have roots in biology, psychology, culture, and everything else. The exact mix will still vary from woman to woman as well... some like more alpha than others.

While I know the old saw about women being unfathomable and agree with it to an extent, at the same time there's still things man can know about woman and vice versa. While we're still dealing in gross generalities (and just suffering the inaccuracies sure to arise once we go from generalities to specific women), any man who is willing and able to learn can indeed find woman very educational and even (to an extent) understandable. It will still feel foreign (like speaking a foreign language when you aren't fluent), but you can operate.

Then again, sometimes it can indeed be flat out "biatches be crazy, yo," but that's rarer than we men might like to pretend sometimes.
 
2012-07-03 11:26:33 AM

PowerSlacker: Both articles were written by morons and neither one deserved a place on this hellhole.


Agreed. Now we just need to pull a "How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days" and get them together. Magic will happen. Or death, either way humanity wins.
 
2012-07-03 11:26:35 AM

Lando Lincoln: Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Jesus, these threads are a GOLDMINE for my ignore list.

Write something inflammatory. DO IT.

Well, okay...let me think of a good one, here...

Gold mine is two words, you stupid broad.


biatches hate being called broads.
 
2012-07-03 11:27:03 AM

kingoomieiii: WhippingBoy: But then where would you get your confirmation bias that all men are sexist, misogynistic pigs?

Don't get all high and mighty about being typecast in a thread where YOU are being a sexist, misogynistic pig. You make us all look bad.


Meh. I'm just giving the audience what they want.
 
2012-07-03 11:28:55 AM

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Jesus, these threads are a GOLDMINE for my ignore list.

Write something inflammatory. DO IT.


Well, did you get enough new material?

I thought I was a bitter husband, but some of these guys have me way outclassed.

I can't even come close.
 
2012-07-03 11:29:18 AM

R.A.Danny: The Singing Bush: R.A.Danny: gamergirl23: The Singing Bush: gamergirl23: The Singing Bush: I think it's hilarious that she doesn't follow number 9. My wife is terrible about this -

Me: Where do you want to go to dinner?
Her: I don't know, I'm not sure what I want
Me: How about here, or here, or here, or here, or here?
Her: No, none of those sound good.
Me: Well what do you want?
Her: Why can't YOU make a decision?
Me - head asplode

This is why one should have a default food/drink/activity. If you don't care but someone really wants you to pick, you just pick that to politely prevent them from going insane.

Tried that - she'll come back with "but we just did that like 6 months ago"

I don't know. Have her keep a list of her favorite restaurants in the car with the dates you last visited them?

My rule: If you make me choose where to go, you shut up about where we're going.

Otherwise I'd be happy to work with you towards picking a place, but don't tell me to choose unless you're ready to shut up and eat some damn BBQ.

I typically say Taco Bell as a threat. Amazingly, she'll start figuring out what she's in the mood for.

All my wife ever wants is Taco Bell and cheeseburgers.


As someone who's wife won't eat red meat or pork, and even went through a total vegan phase for a while, this post made me irrationally angry because I think you're saying that as if it's a bad thing.
 
2012-07-03 11:29:31 AM

wraithmare: Yep. Mrs. W. mentions an issue and seems a little upset. So I run through various solutions that seem quite logical to solve the issue. She gets upset that I'm trying to fix things, then I get upset she isn't listening and then it gets all quiet. Give it an hour, it's all good. See, I keep thinking like an engineer and trying to fix things. That is apparently the wrong answer.


The other thing to consider is if Mrs. W is really worked up over an issue it means she's spent hours (if not days) wrestling with the issue. When you fix it 5 minutes after hearing it, you make her feel really stupid. She's already emotional and now you made her feel stupid, bad things happen from there. The best bet is to be sympathetic and after a bit ask some leading questions to start getting her to realize the solution to her problems.
 
2012-07-03 11:29:43 AM

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Ohhhhhh boy.

why didn't you say 'ohhhhhh girl'? typical freaking woman.

Why didn't you look me in the eyes when you said that? Typical freaking man.

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FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

answering a question with a question? typical freaking woman

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Resorting to threats of violence in order to use your size and strength as an advantage? Typical freaking man

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throwing in a pic of a hot chick to distract me and make me speechless? typical freaking woman.

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Throwing in a pic of a deliciously handsome man who was on a show that was canceled before it's time only to remind that my looks will fade more quickly than yours and that I'll be left for a much younger woman and forced to eat cat food while chasing delinquent kids off the porch of my trailer while getting to pick between the alcoholic plumber or the schizophrenic trophy repair guy for a quick hump and snore while spending my afternoons in a local bowling alley searching for discarded Keno tickets in the hopes of scrounging up enough cash to pay for my osteoporosis medication because I was born with less bone mass? Typical freaking man.

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Biv
2012-07-03 11:30:10 AM

Andrew Wiggin: Lando Lincoln: Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Jesus, these threads are a GOLDMINE for my ignore list.

Write something inflammatory. DO IT.

Well, okay...let me think of a good one, here...

Gold mine is two words, you stupid broad.

biatches hate being called broads.


Yeah, chicks hate that shiat.
 
2012-07-03 11:30:53 AM
This article just shows how men aren't allowed to have ANY complaints about women, otherwise you are a misogynist, and wrong. Only women can complain about men -- all men, in one big generalization -- and expect to be have their complaints not just taken seriously, but acknowledged as fact. And if you don't acknowledge those complaints? You're a misogynist, and wrong.
 
2012-07-03 11:30:56 AM

miss diminutive: Andrew Wiggin: miss diminutive: Andrew Wiggin: miss diminutive: Andrew Wiggin: miss diminutive: [www.dreamwidth.org image 100x100][replays.pl image 224x207][www.dreamwidth.org image 100x100][replays.pl image 224x207][www.dreamwidth.org image 100x100]

Ohhhhhh boy.

why didn't you say 'ohhhhhh girl'? typical freaking woman.

Why didn't you look me in the eyes when you said that? Typical freaking man.

[24.media.tumblr.com image 250x188]

FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

answering a question with a question? typical freaking woman

[i45.tinypic.com image 201x151]

Resorting to threats of violence in order to use your size and strength as an advantage? Typical freaking man

[27.media.tumblr.com image 159x86]

throwing in a pic of a hot chick to distract me and make me speechless? typical freaking woman.

[i49.tinypic.com image 157x88]

Throwing in a pic of a deliciously handsome man who was on a show that was canceled before it's time only to remind that my looks will fade more quickly than yours and that I'll be left for a much younger woman and forced to eat cat food while chasing delinquent kids off the porch of my trailer while getting to pick between the alcoholic plumber or the schizophrenic trophy repair guy for a quick hump and snore while spending my afternoons in a local bowling alley searching for discarded Keno tickets in the hopes of scrounging up enough cash to pay for my osteoporosis medication because I was born with less bone mass? Typical freaking man.

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too-much-time.com
 
2012-07-03 11:31:29 AM

Savage Bacon: Woah! Gotta love the use of the ol' CAPS LOCK to get a point across. Really helps your argument, lady. I can feel your exasperation through your written word... Such angst!

One of the first thing I learned about relationships and the difference between men and women had to do with sympathizing vs. problem-solving. As a man, if I start talking to my male friends about an issue I'm having, it's pretty much advice solicitation on my part. If my gf comes to me with an issue, it's usually just to vent, so I let her vent. If she actually needs any advice, I wait for her to ask for it, because apparently giving advice really gets in the way of a good venting session.


Cannot be overstated. I still get trapped offering advice, when all I should be doing is listening. It's just so hard to watch someone suffer when the answer to their problems is so simple... Why wouldn't you want to help them?
 
2012-07-03 11:31:33 AM

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Jesus, these threads are a GOLDMINE for my ignore list.

Write something inflammatory. DO IT.


fine....
Fe2O3 + 2 Al → 2 Fe + Al2O3
 
2012-07-03 11:31:49 AM
farm8.staticflickr.com
 
2012-07-03 11:33:14 AM

The Singing Bush: R.A.Danny: The Singing Bush: R.A.Danny: gamergirl23: The Singing Bush: gamergirl23: The Singing Bush: I think it's hilarious that she doesn't follow number 9. My wife is terrible about this -

Me: Where do you want to go to dinner?
Her: I don't know, I'm not sure what I want
Me: How about here, or here, or here, or here, or here?
Her: No, none of those sound good.
Me: Well what do you want?
Her: Why can't YOU make a decision?
Me - head asplode

This is why one should have a default food/drink/activity. If you don't care but someone really wants you to pick, you just pick that to politely prevent them from going insane.

Tried that - she'll come back with "but we just did that like 6 months ago"

I don't know. Have her keep a list of her favorite restaurants in the car with the dates you last visited them?

My rule: If you make me choose where to go, you shut up about where we're going.

Otherwise I'd be happy to work with you towards picking a place, but don't tell me to choose unless you're ready to shut up and eat some damn BBQ.

I typically say Taco Bell as a threat. Amazingly, she'll start figuring out what she's in the mood for.

All my wife ever wants is Taco Bell and cheeseburgers.

As someone who's wife won't eat red meat or pork, and even went through a total vegan phase for a while, this post made me irrationally angry because I think you're saying that as if it's a bad thing.


All she wants every day lunch and dinner ever. She can't even crap right.
 
2012-07-03 11:34:07 AM

Christian Bale: This article just shows how men aren't allowed to have ANY complaints about women, otherwise you are a misogynist, and wrong. Only women can complain about men -- all men, in one big generalization -- and expect to be have their complaints not just taken seriously, but acknowledged as fact. And if you don't acknowledge those complaints? You're a misogynist, and wrong.


Yes.

And?
 
2012-07-03 11:34:21 AM

WhippingBoy: Savage Bacon: Woah! Gotta love the use of the ol' CAPS LOCK to get a point across. Really helps your argument, lady. I can feel your exasperation through your written word... Such angst!

One of the first thing I learned about relationships and the difference between men and women had to do with sympathizing vs. problem-solving. As a man, if I start talking to my male friends about an issue I'm having, it's pretty much advice solicitation on my part. If my gf comes to me with an issue, it's usually just to vent, so I let her vent. If she actually needs any advice, I wait for her to ask for it, because apparently giving advice really gets in the way of a good venting session.

Yep. Took me 10 years to learn this. Confused the hell out of me. My wife would come to me, complaining about some relatively minor thing. I'd present her with a logical, clear-cut solution that would be guaranteed to solve her problem, and she would just get angry at me.


Exactly! Took me 5 years into my marriage to learn that. 5 years of hearing about the "communication problems" that I had. Finally after all that time she came right out and told me "I don't want to hear the solution to my problem, I just want you to listen!". I was like, "Oh, I can do that". Now it's just nod and agree. Been married 30 years now and haven't had the communication problem argument since! I don't get it (why wouldn't you want to hear how to resolve your problem?) but hey, whatever . . .
 
2012-07-03 11:34:32 AM

Phinn: Women are easy to understand.

1. They want to pass on the best genes they can to their offspring. This biological imperative causes them to become obsessed with farking the male with the highest-quality genes she can entice to fark her. In this context, "high-quality" means healthy, physically capable, independent, intelligent in a socially-capable way, but above all, socially dominant (especially in the context of zero-sum competitions). This explains the female sexual response to top athletes, rock stars, and famous criminals.

2. Women also have a strong biological urge to find a man to provide her with economic security, since childbirth puts her (and her offspring) in a position of extremely low economic productivity and high vulnerability, for a very long time. In this context, a "high quality" male exhibits traits such as dependability, emotional stability, predictability, dependence, controllable by women, and thus a low degree of likelihood to go around impregnating other women, which would divert resources to those other women's offspring.

So, the result is women who (a) constantly try to contain, control and sponge off of the men , on whom they are dependent (providers), but to whom they are not sexually attracted (although who they may love in a soft, comfortable kind of way), while also (b) lusting like animals after men who are wholly unsuitable as providers but can be counted on to treat her like a sperm-hole.

This dual female psychological dynamic explains about 99% of female behavior. It's why women will date a safe provider then criticize the living crap out of him. It's why the same woman will throw away everything in her life and go a little insane just for the prospect of getting pumped and dumped by an obvious asshole.


You're a nice guy, but I like you as a friend.
 
2012-07-03 11:34:38 AM

R.A.Danny: gamergirl23: The Singing Bush: gamergirl23: The Singing Bush: I think it's hilarious that she doesn't follow number 9. My wife is terrible about this -

Me: Where do you want to go to dinner?
Her: I don't know, I'm not sure what I want
Me: How about here, or here, or here, or here, or here?
Her: No, none of those sound good.
Me: Well what do you want?
Her: Why can't YOU make a decision?
Me - head asplode

This is why one should have a default food/drink/activity. If you don't care but someone really wants you to pick, you just pick that to politely prevent them from going insane.

Tried that - she'll come back with "but we just did that like 6 months ago"

I don't know. Have her keep a list of her favorite restaurants in the car with the dates you last visited them?

My rule: If you make me choose where to go, you shut up about where we're going.

Otherwise I'd be happy to work with you towards picking a place, but don't tell me to choose unless you're ready to shut up and eat some damn BBQ.


Okay, you want to knnow what's going on in our heads during this scenario?

1) We want a place with the right atmosphere to suit our mood (and our clothes and transport)
2) We want a menu that's right for our food/guilt issues (if I'm feeling fat, I don't want BBQ, but I also want you to be happy so I make you pick)
3) We want you to pick because it means you've put thought into it - planning something is more romantic than just ending up wherever's closest
4) If we have kids or not a lot of money, so we're not going out too often, it increases the pressure to have everything go perfectly

I'm not saying it's not crazy, but there you go. Just say "I've heard there's a great new place just opened. I've booked us a table for Friday."
 
2012-07-03 11:34:40 AM

robbiex0r: Savage Bacon: Woah! Gotta love the use of the ol' CAPS LOCK to get a point across. Really helps your argument, lady. I can feel your exasperation through your written word... Such angst!

One of the first thing I learned about relationships and the difference between men and women had to do with sympathizing vs. problem-solving. As a man, if I start talking to my male friends about an issue I'm having, it's pretty much advice solicitation on my part. If my gf comes to me with an issue, it's usually just to vent, so I let her vent. If she actually needs any advice, I wait for her to ask for it, because apparently giving advice really gets in the way of a good venting session.

Cannot be overstated. I still get trapped offering advice, when all I should be doing is listening. It's just so hard to watch someone suffer when the answer to their problems is so simple... Why wouldn't you want to help them?


I've heard this said before from my uncle (now sadly deceased), and believe me it works....

"I'm your husband, not your sponsor"............
 
2012-07-03 11:34:42 AM

Nana's Vibrator: Problem solving or just listening to venting, I can't figure out the difference. I don't bother either way. Whether it's venting or not, she's going to recap her entire day to you. If you listen, you know every one of her work tasks and every one of her coworkers' names and all the family goings on. It can't be a coincidence that I've only dated women who do this. It's universal right?


It must be. One of my exes was having an issue with her boss that essentially came down to her "being mean" or some crap like that. Every day I got to hear a complete rundown of what her boss did to her, and every day I said, "you should go talk to her" or something to that effect.

Finally, I got fed up with it and just said, "look, I'm not one of your girlfriends, if you don't actually want my advice, don't come to me with the same problem every single day when you haven't once attempted my suggested solution. Be an adult and talk to your boss or leave me out of it."

Of course that brought on the waterworks and a 3-hour fight about how I'm a jerk who can't be sympathetic. Which I guess was true, we don't have that instinct, at least not when there's a logical solution to a pitiful "problem".
 
2012-07-03 11:34:45 AM

Biv: glass_ibis: FYI
When men get emotional their logic centers turn off - this is not so with women.


Okay, everyone point and laugh at Glassy.


I didn't say this as a defense of women - ignore this reality at your peril.
When a woman is crying she can be consciously and rationally manipulating the crap out of you. On the other hand, if she is normally sane and cogent, she can continue a logical conversation while crying.

Obviously crying doesn't grant them rationality that they would not normally have - crying crazy women are still crazy.
 
2012-07-03 11:34:52 AM

Christian Bale: This article just shows how men aren't allowed to have ANY complaints about women, otherwise you are a misogynist, and wrong. Only women can complain about men -- all men, in one big generalization -- and expect to be have their complaints not just taken seriously, but acknowledged as fact. And if you don't acknowledge those complaints? You're a misogynist, and wrong.


You need to discard your expectation that women are, by nature, capable of being consistently logical, rational, objective or fair.

There's no there there. It's emotion all the way down.

Once you fully accept this, you'll get along with women with much less conflict and frustration, and will likely eventually come to enjoy them.
 
2012-07-03 11:34:59 AM
This "response" to the original "article" has two problems:

1. The author seems incapable of distinguishing between common complaints about many women, and claims that "all women do X."

2. The author basically denies the legitimacy of any situation in which a man feels that women are insensitive to his wants and needs. If there is even the smallest possibility that a man might be partially at fault in any of these instances, then all of these complaints are null and voild Nobody is denying that men and women may have a tendency to misunderstand each other, prioritize differently, or rub each other the wrong way, but if your response to a man vocalizing his opinion on relationships is to say "nuh-uh, you're wrong," then you're not communicating.

Personally, I've gotten very burned by #4, "You use your emotions as a weapon." My girlfriend and I and had run into some religious differences, but we couldn't really even discuss it, because if I even disagreed with a factual claim or the logic behind something her pastor said, she'd burst into tears. We really liked each other so the whole thing got dragged out way, way longer than it should have, but man, that's no way to live.
 
2012-07-03 11:35:00 AM

ha-ha-guy: serial_crusher: "You see us as projects you can 'fix.'"

I generally see women as projects that I can't fix. Can't suggest a goddamned solution to her petty drama problems without getting an earful about how insensitive I'm being. Just gotta nod and agree. "Oh, that's nice dear. Yes, everyone in your office is out to get you. I completely agree."

Anyhow, the original list is dumb and the responses are even dumber.

I always viewed finding a wife as finding a woman that required minimal biting of my tongue. I've been married for over two decades and she isn't a project I can fix. At best I know a few methods to distract her before she gets up to full speed on some of her rants. She can hold a grudge like no other. I just don't get it, why even waste brain cells thinking about half that petty bullshiat...


That sounds very familiar.

The one lesson I've learned is that wimmin sometimes just want to rant angrily at you and that when you do you MUST appear to listen and make sympathetic noises. You MUST NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES explain how to fix the problem. EVER. Not even if she appears to be asking you to.
 
2012-07-03 11:35:01 AM

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Jesus, these threads are a GOLDMINE for my ignore list.

Write something inflammatory. DO IT.


I can't imagine what reading fark is like for you. It must be like a completely different site.
 
2012-07-03 11:35:09 AM
9. "You have a complicated set of double standards."

This one had me laughing to hard to even think about the others.
//wife almost in tears so angry that I bought a sink for my bathroom (we have separate bathrooms)
//get back from ski trip and wife is so proud of the awful paint job she did on our dining room without ever mentioning plans to paint.
 
2012-07-03 11:35:30 AM

Phinn: Biv: Because girls never just cry. Once tears start flowing the conversation turns emotional and nothing can be done. Time to shut down the conversation until you compose yourself.

Men should not try to have "conversations" with women. At least, not conversations where you expect to exchange information. That almost never happens.

The female mind is a perfectly insular bubble of solipsistic emotion. They have a completely different experience with this thing that men know as "objective reality." Women are not connected to it, and so they are often confused and frustrated when men keep referring to it as though it means something.

This is why women make lousy engineers and even worse lawyers. Women can engage in logical reasoning the way that parrots can engage in human speech. They are, however, good at jobs that involve caretaking (nurses, teachers) and socializing in ways that involve running their mouths (PR, HR, some aspects of marketing).


When you discuss women in professional settings, I'll generally concede my gender in many situations. Many women are well organized and make terrific task and project managers. When it comes to supervisory roles, both genders have their faults.
 
2012-07-03 11:36:15 AM

R.A.Danny: All she wants every day lunch and dinner ever. She can't even crap right.


That's not the Taco Bell. She just likes to spend time at the "big and tall" section at JC Penney.

celebritystatus.com
 
2012-07-03 11:36:33 AM

NorKnOAd: I read most of the article (only made it to 7) and said... wow, this is a lot of venting from some angry woman. Scrolled up and sure enough the author was a woman. Thankfully all women aren't like this one!


THIS. Think she's got issues that only a therapist can deal with.
 
2012-07-03 11:37:00 AM

The Singing Bush: I think it's hilarious that she doesn't follow number 9. My wife is terrible about this -

Me: Where do you want to go to dinner?
Her: I don't know, I'm not sure what I want
Me: How about here, or here, or here, or here, or here?
Her: No, none of those sound good.
Me: Well what do you want?
Her: Why can't YOU make a decision?
Me - head asplode


I go through that exact routine every time we go out to dinner. It's beyond frustrating.
 
2012-07-03 11:37:09 AM

miss diminutive: Christian Bale: This article just shows how men aren't allowed to have ANY complaints about women, otherwise you are a misogynist, and wrong. Only women can complain about men -- all men, in one big generalization -- and expect to be have their complaints not just taken seriously, but acknowledged as fact. And if you don't acknowledge those complaints? You're a misogynist, and wrong.

Yes.

And?


Luckily, I've been married before. I'm used to being wrong 100% of the time, and soldiering on.
 
2012-07-03 11:37:09 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: our food/guilt issues


You misspelled "MY".

We want you to pick because it means you've put thought into it - planning something is more romantic than just ending up wherever's closest


Silly hoops to jump through.

I know most of this stuff is half tongue in cheek, but half is definitely true.
 
2012-07-03 11:37:09 AM
All women are crazy, it's just what level of crazy are you willing to deal with.
 
2012-07-03 11:37:29 AM

wingedkat: Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Jesus, these threads are a GOLDMINE for my ignore list.

Write something inflammatory. DO IT.

I can't imagine what reading fark is like for you. It must be like a completely different site.


Think "Garfield without Garfield".
 
2012-07-03 11:37:36 AM

Savage Bacon: Woah! Gotta love the use of the ol' CAPS LOCK to get a point across. Really helps your argument, lady. I can feel your exasperation through your written word... Such angst!

One of the first thing I learned about relationships and the difference between men and women had to do with sympathizing vs. problem-solving. As a man, if I start talking to my male friends about an issue I'm having, it's pretty much advice solicitation on my part. If my gf comes to me with an issue, it's usually just to vent, so I let her vent. If she actually needs any advice, I wait for her to ask for it, because apparently giving advice really gets in the way of a good venting session.


You have it exactly. No right or wrong, just two different ways of dealing. Congratulations on being intelligent and reasonable.
 
2012-07-03 11:38:00 AM
Men drive like this. Women drive like this.
 
Biv
2012-07-03 11:39:31 AM
What women say: You need to communicate better

What they mean: You need to sit there and listen to me incessantly go on and on about inane bullshiat and biatch about a million people you don't know and will never meet while not actually participating in the conversation but being sure to pay enough attention to nod in the right places and not be able to watch tv...till me shows are on, that is. Ooooooooo....Dancing with the Stars is on!!!!
 
2012-07-03 11:40:21 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: I'm not saying it's not crazy, but there you go.


In other words, "read our minds and do everything so we can be secretly mad at you when you get it wrong and unleash that anger at a later date."
 
2012-07-03 11:40:32 AM

the_chief: Men drive like this. Women drive like this.


Women be shoppin'.
 
2012-07-03 11:40:53 AM
One thing that I find most interesting about women is how difficult it seems to be for them to let things go. Men tend to have a forgive and forget attitude, but women will remember the time you pushed them down in the sandbox when they were 5 years old. 30 years ago.
 
2012-07-03 11:40:57 AM

miss diminutive: Throwing in a pic of a deliciously handsome man who was on a show that was canceled before it's time only to remind that my looks will fade more quickly than yours and that I'll be left for a much younger woman and forced to eat cat food while chasing delinquent kids off the porch of my trailer while getting to pick between the alcoholic plumber or the schizophrenic trophy repair guy for a quick hump and snore while spending my afternoons in a local bowling alley searching for discarded Keno tickets in the hopes of scrounging up enough cash to pay for my osteoporosis medication because I was born with less bone mass? Typical freaking man.

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I've enjoyed this entire conversation, but I have to declare you the winner at this point.
 
2012-07-03 11:41:22 AM
Ah, another article by a "strong" woman who exudes her strength through irrational lashing-outs, shouting down anything she disagrees with, and generally writing one of the most befuddling, disorganized articles fathomable.

I wish strong (for both men and women) was synonymous with "quietly competent"
 
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