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(Jezebel)   "Women's Ten Biggest Complaints About Men's Ten Biggest Complaints About Women." Or, how to create an internet flame war the likes of which God has never seen   (jezebel.com) divider line 618
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2012-07-03 10:55:46 AM  

Savage Bacon: Woah! Gotta love the use of the ol' CAPS LOCK to get a point across. Really helps your argument, lady. I can feel your exasperation through your written word... Such angst!

One of the first thing I learned about relationships and the difference between men and women had to do with sympathizing vs. problem-solving. As a man, if I start talking to my male friends about an issue I'm having, it's pretty much advice solicitation on my part. If my gf comes to me with an issue, it's usually just to vent, so I let her vent. If she actually needs any advice, I wait for her to ask for it, because apparently giving advice really gets in the way of a good venting session.


Yep. Took me 10 years to learn this. Confused the hell out of me. My wife would come to me, complaining about some relatively minor thing. I'd present her with a logical, clear-cut solution that would be guaranteed to solve her problem, and she would just get angry at me.
 
2012-07-03 10:57:29 AM  
I read most of the article (only made it to 7) and said... wow, this is a lot of venting from some angry woman. Scrolled up and sure enough the author was a woman. Thankfully all women aren't like this one!
 
2012-07-03 10:57:41 AM  

susansto-helit: Me too. I get angry and I can feel the tears coming. It's completely beyond my control. It kinda sucks.


Crying used to be a symbol of manliness.
 
2012-07-03 10:58:08 AM  

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Jesus, these threads are a GOLDMINE for my ignore list.

Write something inflammatory. DO IT.


I like to ignore people for voicing an individually unpopular opinion too.
 
2012-07-03 10:58:11 AM  

asmodeusazarak: susansto-helit: I have to admit that #4 really pisses me off. I cannot control when I start crying, so don't accuse me of using it as a weapon when I do.

If you'd grown up as a man you'd have to learn to control when you start crying.


Yup. I got hit for crying sometimes, but at the very least it crying would elicit my father showing me he had zero respect for my very existence.

Hilariously, he got mad at me for not showing my emotions at my grandmothers funeral. Good times.

Now I'm not saying that's right, and I will do my farking best to do better by my kid, but women can't control tears, in general, because they've never had the incentive to do so.
 
2012-07-03 10:58:17 AM  

padraig: I once read a book that was supposed to explain women to men. In the middle of treating men live barely functionnal children that avoid responsibility like the plague, don't wash and only think about video games (those points were made several times, incessantly, during the entire book), the book answered each criticisms of women by men by "yeah, so what ? Deal with it, you farking child".

I had never seen such contempt for a whole gender before in my life.
This article comes pretty close.


There's your problem, right there.
 
2012-07-03 10:58:19 AM  

susansto-helit: jylcat: susansto-helit: I have to admit that #4 really pisses me off. I cannot control when I start crying, so don't accuse me of using it as a weapon when I do.

Unfortunately for me, I cry when I get pissed off!

Me too. I get angry and I can feel the tears coming. It's completely beyond my control. It kinda sucks.


Yes, especially when you're trying to be taken for a grown up. Very inconvenient.
 
2012-07-03 10:58:50 AM  
I think it's hilarious that she doesn't follow number 9. My wife is terrible about this -

Me: Where do you want to go to dinner?
Her: I don't know, I'm not sure what I want
Me: How about here, or here, or here, or here, or here?
Her: No, none of those sound good.
Me: Well what do you want?
Her: Why can't YOU make a decision?
Me - head asplode
 
Biv
2012-07-03 10:58:54 AM  

susansto-helit: I have to admit that #4 really pisses me off. I cannot control when I start crying, so don't accuse me of using it as a weapon when I do.


Fine, then go compose yourself and we can continue this conversation when you can do so like an adult.
 
2012-07-03 10:59:39 AM  
Missing is the classic "When did this start happening" redirection. i.e.

Man: XyZ is bothering me, can we talk about it?
Woman: When did this start being a problem?
Man: Not sure, a while, ago, but it needs to be addressed.
Woman: Why didn't you tell me before, before it became a problem?

...and then the conversation is no longer about the issue that *I* brought up, which never gets resolved.
 
2012-07-03 10:59:40 AM  
She seems like she has the idea of what her 'guy' is already like, she's just looking someone to fill the role, and that seems to be the guy who just "isn't like the other", by all forms of the stereotype (we can't commit, we have the attention span of a goldfish), in more of a counterpoint to the guy's analysis.

Granted there are some merits in some points in her list, but every point seems to descend down to the mad rambling of a future cat lady.

I've found women who feel the need to find a man who fits into these 'ten' ideals, or other similar rigid ideas of what the "dumb moldable guy" should be before they get their hands on us, are just inconsolable. You are best to let someone else try to fit their mold, because there is no give and take in that kind of relationship, you are playing her game (and that ain't love baby).

But i lack a woman in my life in general, so take what i say with a grain of salt.
 
2012-07-03 10:59:45 AM  

susansto-helit: I have to admit that #4 really pisses me off. I cannot control when I start crying, so don't accuse me of using it as a weapon when I do.


I think you probably choose not to. And even if you can't control the crying when it starts (trembling lips, teary eyes), you don't have to let it go. A lot of a crying jag is the willingness to give into it. Not a great tactic in an argument or discussion.
 
2012-07-03 11:00:07 AM  

susansto-helit: I have to admit that #4 really pisses me off. I cannot control when I start crying, so don't accuse me of using it as a weapon when I do.


Fair enough, but don't get upset when men immediately stop the conversation at that point. Once the tears start, there is absolutely NO way that continuing could possibly work out well for the man.
 
2012-07-03 11:00:19 AM  

Superjew: The Author:

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That jacket she is wearing... it reminds me of my grandmother's couch.
 
2012-07-03 11:00:21 AM  

WhippingBoy: Savage Bacon: Woah! Gotta love the use of the ol' CAPS LOCK to get a point across. Really helps your argument, lady. I can feel your exasperation through your written word... Such angst!

One of the first thing I learned about relationships and the difference between men and women had to do with sympathizing vs. problem-solving. As a man, if I start talking to my male friends about an issue I'm having, it's pretty much advice solicitation on my part. If my gf comes to me with an issue, it's usually just to vent, so I let her vent. If she actually needs any advice, I wait for her to ask for it, because apparently giving advice really gets in the way of a good venting session.

Yep. Took me 10 years to learn this. Confused the hell out of me. My wife would come to me, complaining about some relatively minor thing. I'd present her with a logical, clear-cut solution that would be guaranteed to solve her problem, and she would just get angry at me.


The thing I hate though, when a guy vents about something just for the sake of stress relief, he has "anger issues" or is "being too negative".
 
2012-07-03 11:00:44 AM  
"I can't be bothered to come up with well reasoned arguments. So I'm just going to splash some general emotional rage across the page."

Way to represent your gender, lady.
 
2012-07-03 11:00:45 AM  
Overall, all these questions and all answers end up being application to both men and women.....

My take (as a man - towards women):

1. "You see us as projects you can 'fix.'"
- nope, never had that happen... I'm as good as it gets I guess (:-p)

2. "Your expectations are set by Hollywood and sky high."
- I've done over the top romantic things in my life, almost all women can't handle it and think men weird for going all out to be beyond nice, or expect it to be an act.... one woman had no issues with it... she's now my wife.

3. "You're always looking down the road."
- head games, learned to walk away from women that simply can't handle honesty and claim that they don't know their place or where they stand when I've always been honest and open about it.

4. "You use your emotions as a weapon."
- more head games, just walk away and one day she'll grow up.

5. "You have a tendency to be critical."
- I'm fine with receiving positive criticism, and I've grown and learned from it.

6. "You like to play coy."
- more head games.

7. "You fixate on what we're thinking, when you should be watching what we're doing."
- more head games, easily dealt with with a door opening and walking out through it. It's all about honesty again.

8. "You don't understand and/or like our need for alone time."
- wife has no issue with this at all, and we both do our "things".. some together, some on our own... it's all about maturity again.

9. "You have a complicated set of double standards."
- this applies to everyone and point of views, You can't avoid some conflict, but the ability to talk it out is essential.

10. "You want us to change, and then lose respect for us when we do."
-never had this issue, most times, the women's insecurities would stand out and they wanted to either change themselves to keep up or get to "my" level, most times it just was a question that it's just wouldn't work out. But in some ways, this does happen, but at varying levels, depending on the relationship.


So overall, all these are about maturity.
 
2012-07-03 11:01:08 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: That last one is spot on. I do it all the time, I use a personal experience to explain an entire group of people. That's exactly what that guy did. His one friend just happened to date a crazy chick and all of a sudden all women were crazy.


The myth that all women are crazy is rooted in the fact that all women are crazy.
 
2012-07-03 11:01:27 AM  

miss diminutive: Andrew Wiggin: miss diminutive: [www.dreamwidth.org image 100x100][replays.pl image 224x207][www.dreamwidth.org image 100x100][replays.pl image 224x207][www.dreamwidth.org image 100x100]

Ohhhhhh boy.

why didn't you say 'ohhhhhh girl'? typical freaking woman.

Why didn't you look me in the eyes when you said that? Typical freaking man.

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FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!


answering a question with a question? typical freaking woman

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2012-07-03 11:01:30 AM  

susansto-helit: I have to admit that #4 really pisses me off. I cannot control when I start crying, so don't accuse me of using it as a weapon when I do.


The problem isn't the crying, the problem is continuing to fight and demand that you get what you want when you cry. When one partner explains their needs by calmly asserting their importance while the other one explains their needs by sobbing and freaking out? The latter always wins. It's an emotional game of chicken.

If you need to cry, then cry. But while you're crying, decisions need to be off the table.
 
2012-07-03 11:01:37 AM  

susansto-helit: jylcat: susansto-helit: I have to admit that #4 really pisses me off. I cannot control when I start crying, so don't accuse me of using it as a weapon when I do.

Unfortunately for me, I cry when I get pissed off!

Me too. I get angry and I can feel the tears coming. It's completely beyond my control. It kinda sucks.


Same here. I cry when I laugh or sneeze, so getting upset is a guaranteed tear jerker. The more I concentrate on not crying, the worse it gets. It's really not helpful because most often crying doesn't really help the situation.
 
2012-07-03 11:01:41 AM  

susansto-helit: I cannot control when I start crying, so don't accuse me of using it as a weapon when I do.


Are you an adult? If so, you can control it.
 
2012-07-03 11:01:43 AM  

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Jesus, these threads are a GOLDMINE for my ignore list.

Write something inflammatory. DO IT.


You know why there are so many hard-core "feminists" on Fark instead of sites like "Feministe" or "Feministing"?
Because in spite of all the misogynistic, body-shaming, slut-shaming, ableist, sexist, classist, racist comments by white, cis-gendered males, it STILL beats the hell out of listening to other "feminists" use every means necessary to rationalize their failures in life.
 
2012-07-03 11:02:05 AM  

tricycleracer: "You want us to change, and then lose respect for us when we do."

Well, you do get the whole "OMG firefighters are teh sexy" followed by "Please stop running into burning buildings, baby. It's dangerous and I don't want to lose you."

And then she goes and bangs a racecar driver.



I seem to recall an article many years back that measured female sexual attraction. It basically said that when they're fertile, they want to bang the racecar drive, and come home to the accountant.
 
2012-07-03 11:02:19 AM  
I am so glad the girl critter thinks that magazines are a waste of time.

She has her issues with me, but at least their her issues, and not pre-programmed outrage at crap...
 
2012-07-03 11:02:26 AM  
I don't know, what I got out of all that is the guy was throwing around some gigantic blanket statements.
 
2012-07-03 11:02:28 AM  

Hack Patooey: Missing is the classic "When did this start happening" redirection. i.e.

Man: XyZ is bothering me, can we talk about it?
Woman: When did this start being a problem?
Man: Not sure, a while, ago, but it needs to be addressed.
Woman: Why didn't you tell me before, before it became a problem?

...and then the conversation is no longer about the issue that *I* brought up, which never gets resolved.


Didn't you know? BEFORE it was an issue, you were supposed to know that it was going to become an issue and brought it up then. It's always best to bring up something that's not a problem so that it can become a problem when you bring it up, and it's all your fault anyway.

You cad.
 
2012-07-03 11:03:05 AM  

miss diminutive: I cry pee when I laugh or sneeze


you know you do
 
2012-07-03 11:03:17 AM  

serial_crusher: Anyhow, the original list is dumb and the responses are even dumber.


This, So much this. The list is basically the same stereotypical list that has been around forever. The responses just go to try to prove 5 and 9 right. Seriously?
 
2012-07-03 11:03:29 AM  

Savage Bacon: One of the first thing I learned about relationships and the difference between men and women had to do with sympathizing vs. problem-solving. As a man, if I start talking to my male friends about an issue I'm having, it's pretty much advice solicitation on my part. If my gf comes to me with an issue, it's usually just to vent, so I let her vent. If she actually needs any advice, I wait for her to ask for it, because apparently giving advice really gets in the way of a good venting session.


Pretty much this.

In the season premiere of "Louie" last week there was an awesome scene near the opening...

Basically he's waiting for his quasi-gf in a diner. She comes in and just starts non-stop biatching about her job. She hates this about her job, she hates that, this person is a jerk, this person is trying to cut her down, this person is trying to steal the credit, etc. etc. etc. just non stop.

Louie just casually responds "You should quit your job."

To which she just loses it "What? I should quit my job? What kind of a statement is that?! Fark you, you should quit your job!"

To which he just mumbles "I like my job."
 
2012-07-03 11:03:30 AM  
I start crying when I reach emotional equilibrium.
 
2012-07-03 11:03:47 AM  
Badly written article is badly written. Actually, both of them, so you get a two-fer of crap. Very helpful.

And then we wonder why men and women don't "understand" each other.

It's because they don't want to. Expecting most people to be honest about what they do and why they do it is unrealistic. Most will blame everyone but themselves, or in the case of the sad sacks, blame themselves for everything after letting a colossal asshole crap all over them and then mope around and wonder why they can't find their soulmate.
 
2012-07-03 11:04:03 AM  
STOOPID MAN WORLD!!!!1
 
2012-07-03 11:04:13 AM  

Savage Bacon: Woah! Gotta love the use of the ol' CAPS LOCK to get a point across. Really helps your argument, lady. I can feel your exasperation through your written word... Such angst!

One of the first thing I learned about relationships and the difference between men and women had to do with sympathizing vs. problem-solving. As a man, if I start talking to my male friends about an issue I'm having, it's pretty much advice solicitation on my part. If my gf comes to me with an issue, it's usually just to vent, so I let her vent. If she actually needs any advice, I wait for her to ask for it, because apparently giving advice really gets in the way of a good venting session.


applause
 
2012-07-03 11:04:15 AM  

Nogale: I think you probably choose not to. And even if you can't control the crying when it starts (trembling lips, teary eyes), you don't have to let it go. A lot of a crying jag is the willingness to give into it. Not a great tactic in an argument or discussion.


No. Seriously, sometimes you cannot control it. As an adult woman in the business world, this is something that's a real problem for me. I think a previous poster was right when they said that women aren't given an incentive to NOT cry as children so it can overtake you in the worst situations.
 
2012-07-03 11:04:16 AM  

WhippingBoy: Savage Bacon: Woah! Gotta love the use of the ol' CAPS LOCK to get a point across. Really helps your argument, lady. I can feel your exasperation through your written word... Such angst!

One of the first thing I learned about relationships and the difference between men and women had to do with sympathizing vs. problem-solving. As a man, if I start talking to my male friends about an issue I'm having, it's pretty much advice solicitation on my part. If my gf comes to me with an issue, it's usually just to vent, so I let her vent. If she actually needs any advice, I wait for her to ask for it, because apparently giving advice really gets in the way of a good venting session.

Yep. Took me 10 years to learn this. Confused the hell out of me. My wife would come to me, complaining about some relatively minor thing. I'd present her with a logical, clear-cut solution that would be guaranteed to solve her problem, and she would just get angry at me.



Nod, make sympathetic sounds, and angle the laptop screen so she can't see you're knocking out a couple more turns in Alpha Centauri/Civ 5/etc. Ask her how she feels, how her close female friends feel, etc. The next morning actually start to discuss logical solutions and act like you spent the whole night pondering them. Score points for being a good listener and staying up all night to think about her problem.
 
2012-07-03 11:04:24 AM  

WhippingBoy: Savage Bacon: Woah! Gotta love the use of the ol' CAPS LOCK to get a point across. Really helps your argument, lady. I can feel your exasperation through your written word... Such angst!

One of the first thing I learned about relationships and the difference between men and women had to do with sympathizing vs. problem-solving. As a man, if I start talking to my male friends about an issue I'm having, it's pretty much advice solicitation on my part. If my gf comes to me with an issue, it's usually just to vent, so I let her vent. If she actually needs any advice, I wait for her to ask for it, because apparently giving advice really gets in the way of a good venting session.

Yep. Took me 10 years to learn this. Confused the hell out of me. My wife would come to me, complaining about some relatively minor thing. I'd present her with a logical, clear-cut solution that would be guaranteed to solve her problem, and she would just get angry at me.


Yep. Mrs. W. mentions an issue and seems a little upset. So I run through various solutions that seem quite logical to solve the issue. She gets upset that I'm trying to fix things, then I get upset she isn't listening and then it gets all quiet. Give it an hour, it's all good. See, I keep thinking like an engineer and trying to fix things. That is apparently the wrong answer.

Stupid article is stupid.

/Didn't get the instruction manual and there's no readme on this one.
//At least it doesn't get all stabby. Didn't marry a crazy.
 
2012-07-03 11:04:32 AM  

The Singing Bush: I think it's hilarious that she doesn't follow number 9. My wife is terrible about this -

Me: Where do you want to go to dinner?
Her: I don't know, I'm not sure what I want
Me: How about here, or here, or here, or here, or here?
Her: No, none of those sound good.
Me: Well what do you want?
Her: Why can't YOU make a decision?
Me - head asplode


This is why one should have a default food/drink/activity. If you don't care but someone really wants you to pick, you just pick that to politely prevent them from going insane.
 
2012-07-03 11:04:39 AM  
6. "You like to play coy."

This game where you pretend you don't care and secretly hope we chase you down is for teenagers.


Dude, if you're a guy and you've never played hard to get then you're doing it wrong. IMHO men do this just as often as women and they do it much more successfully. Even I do it much more successfully than any woman has ever done it to me, and I'm a dork.

In a list of dumb points and even dumber counterpoints, this was probably the dumbest.
 
2012-07-03 11:04:57 AM  
She sounds fat.
 
2012-07-03 11:05:25 AM  

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Jesus, these threads are a GOLDMINE for my ignore list.

Write something inflammatory. DO IT.


Nobody cares about your ignore list. Go be biatchy somewhere else.
 
2012-07-03 11:05:32 AM  

Nogale: susansto-helit: I have to admit that #4 really pisses me off. I cannot control when I start crying, so don't accuse me of using it as a weapon when I do.

I think you probably choose not to. And even if you can't control the crying when it starts (trembling lips, teary eyes), you don't have to let it go. A lot of a crying jag is the willingness to give into it. Not a great tactic in an argument or discussion.


yup, the minute that an argument turns away from the issue and to the emotion, it's time for both sides to take a break.

Mature, non codependent couples will have this agreed to (at least mostly) beforehand.......

My ex was bad about this.....she'd get upset and after that, I was the "asshole". Never mind about what the initial point of contention was and how it needed to be worked out, the minute the emotion got going, I was at fault no matter what. One of the reasons why she's my ex (apart from the bipolar and addiction issues).

Second wife? She doesn't pull that bullshiat. We disagree about stuff, but we also debate/argue in a sane manner.
 
2012-07-03 11:05:56 AM  
2. "Your expectations are set by Hollywood and sky high."

They've been fed a fantasy about romance and passion for so long that when a REAL act of love comes down the pike, he notices that the tread on your tires is low and buys a new set, it hardly even registers.

SO SPECIFIC. IT'S ALL SO SPECIFIC. I'M SORRY YOU BOUGHT THAT UNGRATEFUL biatch SOME TIRES, OKAY? I'm willing to accept that it's mostly my fault she didn't like your tires, but how's about we call it bygones at this point?

This point, and the explanation included with it is 100% valid for a lot of women and many men as well.

The authors 'rebuttal' pretty much sums up why I think she's a moron.



As for the golf thing, again if she doesn't think this common she's a moron. Nothing bothers me more than trying to get a foursome together for golf and have to wait for the guys to ask permission from their wives or even worse have one bail at the last second because his wife is having an issue with him spending the morning with his friends. This applies to any activity that doesn't include the women. In all honestly this issue isn't the women's fault. This one lies at the feet of the pussy assholes they are married to or involved with.
 
2012-07-03 11:06:07 AM  

WhippingBoy: Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Jesus, these threads are a GOLDMINE for my ignore list.

Write something inflammatory. DO IT.

You know why there are so many hard-core "feminists" on Fark instead of sites like "Feministe" or "Feministing"?
Because in spite of all the misogynistic, body-shaming, slut-shaming, ableist, sexist, classist, racist comments by white, cis-gendered males, it STILL beats the hell out of listening to other "feminists" use every means necessary to rationalize their failures in life.


Bet you an internet we're both on ignore after the Shanghai subway thread.

/actually I should have her on ignore after it
 
2012-07-03 11:06:20 AM  

The Singing Bush: I think it's hilarious that she doesn't follow number 9. My wife is terrible about this -

Me: Where do you want to go to dinner?
Her: I don't know, I'm not sure what I want
Me: How about here, or here, or here, or here, or here?
Her: No, none of those sound good.
Me: Well what do you want?
Her: Why can't YOU make a decision?
Me - head asplode


Had this exact thing happen to me a few times. The key here is to understand the difference between "suggestions" and "decisions". I believe she got angry because you merely *suggested* places, instead of deciding right then and there where you would go for dinner. Of course, deciding outright might still lead to her being unsatisfied with your choice, but at least you made one and next time she'll be more motivated to actually express her preferences. For even better results, mention something you actually like about the restaurant where you wish to eat, as that extra motivation can expedite the whole process.
 
2012-07-03 11:06:22 AM  
Women are easy to understand.

1. They want to pass on the best genes they can to their offspring. This biological imperative causes them to become obsessed with farking the male with the highest-quality genes she can entice to fark her. In this context, "high-quality" means healthy, physically capable, independent, intelligent in a socially-capable way, but above all, socially dominant (especially in the context of zero-sum competitions). This explains the female sexual response to top athletes, rock stars, and famous criminals.

2. Women also have a strong biological urge to find a man to provide her with economic security, since childbirth puts her (and her offspring) in a position of extremely low economic productivity and high vulnerability, for a very long time. In this context, a "high quality" male exhibits traits such as dependability, emotional stability, predictability, dependence, controllable by women, and thus a low degree of likelihood to go around impregnating other women, which would divert resources to those other women's offspring.

So, the result is women who (a) constantly try to contain, control and sponge off of the men , on whom they are dependent (providers), but to whom they are not sexually attracted (although who they may love in a soft, comfortable kind of way), while also (b) lusting like animals after men who are wholly unsuitable as providers but can be counted on to treat her like a sperm-hole.

This dual female psychological dynamic explains about 99% of female behavior. It's why women will date a safe provider then criticize the living crap out of him. It's why the same woman will throw away everything in her life and go a little insane just for the prospect of getting pumped and dumped by an obvious asshole.
 
2012-07-03 11:06:25 AM  

miss diminutive: susansto-helit: jylcat: susansto-helit: I have to admit that #4 really pisses me off. I cannot control when I start crying, so don't accuse me of using it as a weapon when I do.

Unfortunately for me, I cry when I get pissed off!

Me too. I get angry and I can feel the tears coming. It's completely beyond my control. It kinda sucks.

Same here. I cry when I laugh or sneeze, so getting upset is a guaranteed tear jerker. The more I concentrate on not crying, the worse it gets. It's really not helpful because most often crying doesn't really help the situation.


I cry when I drink. It's an Irish thing
 
2012-07-03 11:06:57 AM  
As much as people and article's author disregard the eharmony article, the eharmony article sounds just like men biatching about women at the bar.
So taken for the generic info it is, it is fairly insightful. Outside of a guy just out of a relationship, no man really believes all apply to all women.. or any for that matter.
It does list some common complaints though. As a male, i will say the reversed articles are equally as insightful even if generic for me. No reason to get all pissy unless you live in denial... or if it appears too true. Which for tfa author, i suspect it may be for her.
 
2012-07-03 11:07:20 AM  

mightybaldking: tricycleracer: "You want us to change, and then lose respect for us when we do."

Well, you do get the whole "OMG firefighters are teh sexy" followed by "Please stop running into burning buildings, baby. It's dangerous and I don't want to lose you."

And then she goes and bangs a racecar driver.


I seem to recall an article many years back that measured female sexual attraction. It basically said that when they're fertile, they want to bang the racecar drive, and come home to the accountant.


It's the alpha/beta male thing.

Alpha males get her motor running, but they can sometimes be frightening (or at least troubling) to be around. The kind of guy who does as he pleases with a devil may care attitude has a confidence that women generally love, but his woman never knows what's going to happen next. That can mean it will be exciting, it can also mean he'll slap her around or bang her best friend.

Beta males are very comforting for longer term relationships, but they just don't get her interest up. They're great for stability, the woman doesn't worry about him getting off the reservation, but there's just no fire there, nothing to get her excited or eager. She knows he'll be home on time and take care of the kids, but when she can get herself in the mood to have sex she's dreaming about some dreck like 50 Shades of Gray.

A guy who can balance the alpha and beta tendencies will tend to be most satisfying- confident and unpredictable enough to get her going, but stable enough that she isn't worried about what's around the corner.
 
2012-07-03 11:07:38 AM  

PowerSlacker: Both articles were written by morons and neither one deserved a place on this hellhole.


See: MightyBaldKing's law

"Everyone is an asshole. Life is better when you accept and deal with it."
 
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