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(Some Guy)   Blind? Don't like dogs? How about a seeing eye miniature horse?   (nowiknow.com) divider line 55
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2012-07-03 10:56:35 AM
Can his name be mighty little?
 
2012-07-03 10:59:13 AM
I was just talking about these horses to someone at work last week. He thought I was insane until he Googled it. Now he can't get over the little sneakers that are sold for them so their hooves don't scuff floors.
 
2012-07-03 10:59:47 AM
I want a seeing-eye wolverine. Or maybe a tiger.

/service animals are allowed everywhere -- should be hilarious
 
2012-07-03 11:00:49 AM
I love seeing eye horses. The main problem with dogs is their useful career span is unbelievably short. Mini horses can be active and working for many many years, whereas dogs tend to last 6-8 working years at best. Then their owner has to retrain with a new dog, see that the old dog gets placed in a home properly, etc.

Another benefit is that dogs, being pack animals, need attention and socialization. Horses are quite happy being left alone to chill out for a while or graze if there's nothing going on.

/just my $0.02
//likes horses
///slashies for old skool
 
2012-07-03 11:02:24 AM
who doesn't like dogs?
 
2012-07-03 11:02:50 AM
Seeing-eye horses are his mane form of guidance.
 
2012-07-03 11:04:03 AM
as usual, we bend over to the demands of muslims.
 
2012-07-03 11:04:13 AM
A little horse?

Everypony panic!
 
2012-07-03 11:07:23 AM

Twilightzero: I love seeing eye horses. The main problem with dogs is their useful career span is unbelievably short. Mini horses can be active and working for many many years, whereas dogs tend to last 6-8 working years at best. Then their owner has to retrain with a new dog, see that the old dog gets placed in a home properly, etc.

Another benefit is that dogs, being pack animals, need attention and socialization. Horses are quite happy being left alone to chill out for a while or graze if there's nothing going on.

/just my $0.02
//likes horses
///slashies for old skool


Maybe they selectively breed the minis for independence, but horses are, in general, much less able to be alone than dogs. The majority become quite agitated if they are not in close proximity to other equines, or at least companion animals like goats, sheep, etc. Interesting that the breeders/trainers have found a gene pool missing that very strong herd instinct.
 
2012-07-03 11:08:03 AM
i171.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-03 11:08:29 AM
could I have my helper monkey ride the horse too? It would be even better if it had a full set of armor on or was dressed as a cowboy.
 
2012-07-03 11:08:36 AM
incontinence issues? like, who cleans up after the runt?

can't read - only kebrd
 
2012-07-03 11:09:06 AM
This idea works VERY well for rural areas.

The only real problem is the poop is a lot bigger.


It costs the same to train a dog as it does to train the equine. But dogs don't live a long time, and can't work through their entire life. Mini-horses/ponies live a lot longer, so:

1) Financially a much better idea

2) emotionally you become attached to a creature that will stay with you instead of having to be replaced every 5 years.
 
2012-07-03 11:10:34 AM
Li'l Sebastian?
 
2012-07-03 11:10:50 AM

Marcintosh: incontinence issues? like, who cleans up after the runt?

can't read - only kebrd


They make attachments for horses to catch the poop. Horses also take a completely different type poop than dogs. Dogs poop like humans. It is far more messy to clean up dog poop.
 
2012-07-03 11:18:16 AM
As an owner of a wonderful Capuchin monkey service animal for my social anxiety, I find this to be a little frivolous.
 
2012-07-03 11:19:57 AM
And as with anything else that would benefit some people, a conservative wants to ban them.
Link
 
2012-07-03 11:23:08 AM
I still prefer the idea of see eye midgets.
 
2012-07-03 11:23:13 AM
In my belief system, muslims are unclean animals. You closed minded bigots ought to respect that.
 
2012-07-03 11:23:15 AM

brigid_fitch: I was just talking about these horses to someone at work last week. He thought I was insane until he Googled it. Now he can't get over the little sneakers that are sold for them so their hooves don't scuff floors.


They are also very helpful service animals for people who have seizures and balance issues. I read one article about a woman who learned to walk again by using her mini as something like a walker or a crutch and still has him travel with her because she still has balance issues and falls over a lot.
 
2012-07-03 11:23:33 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-03 11:34:08 AM

Sofa King Smart: who doesn't like dogs?


Assholes. Assholes don't like dogs.
 
2012-07-03 11:36:07 AM
Maybe if you liked dogs God wouldn't have blinded you.
 
2012-07-03 11:40:39 AM

Sofa King Smart: who doesn't like dogs?


Muslims. That tells you everything you need to know about Islam.
 
2012-07-03 11:40:44 AM
somebody say something about dawgs...

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/hot
 
2012-07-03 11:41:34 AM

fruitloop: [i171.photobucket.com image 500x279]


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2012-07-03 11:42:01 AM
Seeing Eye should be capitalized. Just sayin'.
 
2012-07-03 11:42:43 AM
Ironically Sharia law has allowed treating guide dogs as the working dogs they are, like laudable hunting or guard dogs.

OTOH, if a guide horse can do the job well enough, why quibble?
 
2012-07-03 11:45:01 AM
I submitted this last week with a wittier, neigh, a MUCH wittier headline.
 
2012-07-03 11:50:05 AM

jshine: I want a seeing-eye wolverine. Or maybe a tiger.

/service animals are allowed everywhere -- should be hilarious


In the US the Americans with Disabilities Act has been amended to allow ONLY dogs and ponies in public places. People with helper sloths, seeing-eye-moles, or companion paramecia are out of luck.
 
2012-07-03 11:54:31 AM

Sofa King Smart: who doesn't like dogs?


Heartless fools.

/cat person
 
2012-07-03 11:56:09 AM

htomc: Sofa King Smart: who doesn't like dogs?

Muslims. That tells you everything you need to know about Islam.


Ha-ha, good one.
 
2012-07-03 11:57:36 AM

Meatybrain: In the US the Americans with Disabilities Act has been amended to allow ONLY dogs and ponies in public places. People with helper sloths, seeing-eye-moles, or companion paramecia are out of luck.


Which is a shame because, really, a fancy rat perched on your shoulder would be able to pick up if you're about to have a seizure and alert you without ever having to bother anyone else.
 
2012-07-03 11:58:07 AM

wwwade: And as with anything else that would benefit some people, a conservative wants to ban them.
Link


He doesn't want a total ban, just the ability of a restaurant owner to allow or deny a pony on a case by case basis. TFA says the Congresscritter's concern is housebreaking. The ADA already allows the barring of a service animal that poops on the floor.
 
2012-07-03 12:14:16 PM

jshine: I want a seeing-eye wolverine. Or maybe a tiger.

/service animals are allowed everywhere -- should be hilarious


I saw a seeing eye pony on the MAX in downtown Portland a few months ago. It was surprisingly well behaved.
 
2012-07-03 12:55:21 PM

BarkingUnicorn: wwwade: And as with anything else that would benefit some people, a conservative wants to ban them.
Link

He doesn't want a total ban, just the ability of a restaurant owner to allow or deny a pony on a case by case basis. TFA says the Congresscritter's concern is housebreaking. The ADA already allows the barring of a service animal that poops on the floor.


Well that's the critical legal meaning of a service animal. I mean you don't need the law at all to rely on an animal to help with a handicap, the law has no part in it.

The law is essential to ensure you're not deprived of it. You go to a store, hotel, or restaurant and they say you can't have your animal. Even if you can still get around without it, are you going to leave it outside chained to the bike rack? In the car in the hotel parking lot?

Lemme tell you, if you're traveling with dogs and have to get a hotel room, it can be a major thing if they don't allow it. At least a person had a choice in that while planning the trip, to leave the dogs at home. But if you're traveling with a service animal, you probably don't have a choice.
 
2012-07-03 01:20:06 PM
Uhh, haven't Salukis been around the Middle East for a long time?

Aren't they very important to Bedouins?

/confused
 
2012-07-03 01:21:24 PM

brigid_fitch: I was just talking about these horses to someone at work last week. He thought I was insane until he Googled it. Now he can't get over the little sneakers that are sold for them so their hooves don't scuff floors.


This
 
2012-07-03 01:31:31 PM

Salem Witch: Uhh, haven't Salukis been around the Middle East for a long time?

Aren't they very important to Bedouins?

/confused


Hunting dogs. Don't count.
 
2012-07-03 01:39:06 PM
This is a really bad idea. Horses are not capable of "intelligent disobedience", the ability that defines a good seeing-eye dog. Intelligent disobediences is the ability to ignore commands when doing so will save the life of their owner. For example, a blind person comes to a crosswalk on a road and gives the signal to cross. Unbeknownst to the person a car drives through the red light. The dog refuses to to cross because of the approaching car, intelligently disobeying the command of the owner. Horses do not have independence necessary to make those sorts of judgment calls! That combined with the horse's natural flight reflex (something spooky happens=run away as fast as you can!) makes miniature horses dangerous to use as seeing-eye animals. Miniature horse are horses, they are not dogs.
 
2012-07-03 01:40:13 PM

SwiftFox: Salem Witch: Uhh, haven't Salukis been around the Middle East for a long time?

Aren't they very important to Bedouins?

/confused

Hunting dogs. Don't count.


Also different sects of islam have different views on how strict the ban is. Just like how a lot of the dietary restrictions out of the Old Testament are now ignored by Christians.
 
2012-07-03 01:47:22 PM

Twilightzero:
Another benefit is that dogs, being pack animals, need attention and socialization. Horses are quite happy being left alone to chill out for a while or graze if there's nothing going on.


Wat

Horses are herd animals, they need other herd animals (horses, goats, people if they're tame) nearby to feel safe. Dogs might get bored being by themselves for a bit, but horses feel lonely and threatened if they are alone. A lone horse might look relaxed, but in reality its stress-levels are very high. It is much better to get a dog if you think you're going to have to leave your animal by itself regularly.
 
2012-07-03 02:28:05 PM
www.lastsleep.com
 
2012-07-03 02:29:08 PM
Is this the thread where people tell us that no establishment gets to decide what is and is not a service animal and that all must be allowed even full size horses, cows, and fully functional skunks?
 
2012-07-03 02:32:34 PM
Headline includes "little horse"
Only one pony pic? And it's Rarity?

th02.deviantart.net
 
2012-07-03 02:50:12 PM

doubled99: As an owner of a wonderful Capuchin monkey service animal for my social anxiety, I find this to be a little frivolous.


Plus it's there to alert people you're a twatwaffle

If you ever see someone working a guide dog or guide horse, feel free to talk to them about anything other than the animal - they'll love you for it!
 
2012-07-03 02:55:42 PM

Sofa King Smart: who doesn't like dogs?


Most people do, but some are allergic to dogs or their religion considers dogs unclean.

Blind Muslim woman uses guide horse
 
2012-07-03 03:01:57 PM
And they are great fun on airplanes!
 
2012-07-03 03:06:13 PM

Bathia_Mapes: Sofa King Smart: who doesn't like dogs?

Most people do, but some are allergic to dogs or their religion considers dogs unclean.

Blind Muslim woman uses guide horse


as has been pointed out above... any 'religion' that feels threatened by the unconditional love of a dog, to the point of calling them 'unclean', is without question a 'bogus' religion.

Dog is Love.
 
2012-07-03 03:12:15 PM
In all seriousness, if you are blind I could care less what kind of animal you use to navigate the world. I couldn't imagine getting through the day without being able to see. If a mini-horse enables you to leave the house and live your life, I have no no business being annoyed if I have to share space with it.

Benjimin_Dover: all must be allowed even full size horses, cows...


I would imagine that a full size horse or cow would be useless because they aren't small enough to navigate inside a store or building, nor could you get in a vehicle with them.
 
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