Thanks Grandma for ridding us of this whippersnapper.

Seriously shot 8 times and still had enough breath to call 911 -she should have shot 9 times.

An autopsy revealed that Jonathan was shot three times in the chest, once in the abdomen and once in his left arm. The teen also had traces of synthetic marijuana in his urine, tests showed.

Bath salts? Was he trying to eat her?

But seriously, you might be able to claim self defense if you just shot him once in the chest. But to go back inside and shoot him 2 more times in the chest is cold-blooded murder.

Crackhead? Didn't see anything like that in the article, jump-to-conclusionsmitter

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Walker: An autopsy revealed that Jonathan was shot three times in the chest, once in the abdomen and once in his left arm. The teen also had traces of synthetic marijuana in his urine, tests showed.

Bath salts? Was he trying to eat her?

But seriously, you might be able to claim self defense if you just shot him once in the chest. But to go back inside and shoot him 2 more times in the chest is cold-blooded murder.

Not bath salts, Incense.

K2, Oz, Spice, Chronic.... and your local party store or gas station will gladly sell anybody, even an 8 year old, a packet if you have $25 to spend on it.

The problem is this stuff can cause severe psychosis. It's bad enough that the military, which usually second chances pot and cocaine users, will kick you out if you have this in your possession. It's not a reaction to hysteria or flustered helicopter moms, but a result of seeing the damage in naval hospital psych wards.

Bath Salts tends to be a bit worse, because the synthetics used are "harsher" targets, like PCP analogs. Both are bad, IMO. Its users are in the same class as paint huffers.

LesserEvil: Walker: An autopsy revealed that Jonathan was shot three times in the chest, once in the abdomen and once in his left arm. The teen also had traces of synthetic marijuana in his urine, tests showed.

Bath salts? Was he trying to eat her?

But seriously, you might be able to claim self defense if you just shot him once in the chest. But to go back inside and shoot him 2 more times in the chest is cold-blooded murder.

Not bath salts, Incense.

K2, Oz, Spice, Chronic.... and your local party store or gas station will gladly sell anybody, even an 8 year old, a packet if you have $25 to spend on it.

The problem is this stuff can cause severe psychosis. It's bad enough that the military, which usually second chances pot and cocaine users, will kick you out if you have this in your possession. It's not a reaction to hysteria or flustered helicopter moms, but a result of seeing the damage in naval hospital psych wards.

Bath Salts tends to be a bit worse, because the synthetics used are "harsher" targets, like PCP analogs. Both are bad, IMO. Its users are in the same class as paint huffers.

Thanks for the drug class. I don't know much about the drug scene these days. I'm older than most of you whippersnappers and back when I was a kid if we wanted to get high we sniffed magic markers. In class. And weeeeeeeeeeee liked it. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee loved it! We also sniffed our freshly run thru the mimeograph test papers.

Jon iz teh kewl: Walker: LesserEvil: Walker: An autopsy revealed that Jonathan was shot three times in the chest, once in the abdomen and once in his left arm. The teen also had traces of synthetic marijuana in his urine, tests showed.

Bath salts? Was he trying to eat her?

But seriously, you might be able to claim self defense if you just shot him once in the chest. But to go back inside and shoot him 2 more times in the chest is cold-blooded murder.

Not bath salts, Incense.

K2, Oz, Spice, Chronic.... and your local party store or gas station will gladly sell anybody, even an 8 year old, a packet if you have $25 to spend on it.

The problem is this stuff can cause severe psychosis. It's bad enough that the military, which usually second chances pot and cocaine users, will kick you out if you have this in your possession. It's not a reaction to hysteria or flustered helicopter moms, but a result of seeing the damage in naval hospital psych wards.

Bath Salts tends to be a bit worse, because the synthetics used are "harsher" targets, like PCP analogs. Both are bad, IMO. Its users are in the same class as paint huffers.

Thanks for the drug class. I don't know much about the drug scene these days. I'm older than most of you whippersnappers and back when I was a kid if we wanted to get high we sniffed magic markers. In class. And weeeeeeeeeeee liked it. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee loved it! We also sniffed our freshly run thru the mimeograph test papers.

you didn't have DARE?

without DARE i wouldn't have even tried marijuana, cocaine, LSD, or heroin

Oh no, I was pre-DARE.

DaCaptain19: Is there not currently a federal ban on all of those? Not saying nothing will come along to take their place, but...I think all that is now a federal crime.

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nunpunter: Since the way both of these drugs are created leads to an endless array of annalouges, banning will do nothing to stop them. One substance gets banned, they will just release a slightly modded version.

They are designer drugs, and the narco schedule that controls these require specific formulas. The Dutch cafe where this stuff is concocted has hundreds of variations, they just shift from one to another and keep spraying cow manure and packaging it as "incense" "not for human consumption" or on cheap bath salts.

There is a bill to stop this, but Rand Paul is blocking it "as an issue of states' rights" - though no other Republicans want to block it.

More troubling is that even if they ban a specific formulation, it's expensive to test for, so it's impractical to enforce right now.

My solution is simple: Subject anybody selling incense or bath salts for more than $5/oz to pay for the State Police to test three samples a year. Fail a test, lose your liquor/fuel/whatever license for 6 months. Party stores and gas stations will fall all over themselves to not sell another packet ever again.

They only sell this crap because it's an easy buck and they have no conscience. My corner gas station stopped selling it almost as soon as they started, when the owner realized what this crap was doing. Yes, he saw an easy buck, but wasn't willing to pay the price ethically. Shame more store owners don't feel that way (and his realization came LONG before all the.current news)