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(BGR)   The year of Gingerbread continues: ICS penetration crosses 10%   (bgr.com) divider line 59
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2012-07-03 10:47:55 AM  
Farks given holding steady at 0.
 
2012-07-03 11:50:34 AM  
i.chzbgr.com
 
2012-07-03 11:56:37 AM  
Wouldn't give up my Android for the world, but if Jellybean has as much impact on my life as the change from Gingerbread to ICS did, I might juszzzzzzzzzzzzzz......
 
2012-07-03 11:56:56 AM  
My brother and his wife bragged just a few days ago about getting brand new Android based phones with the latest version. Rather enjoyed showing them they were running 2.3.

/needless to say I don't get invited to many family events at their house
 
2012-07-03 11:57:18 AM  
Well, considering that's about the percentage of Android phone capable of running it, 10% ain't too bad.
 
2012-07-03 11:57:36 AM  

0Icky0: Wouldn't give up my Android for the world, but if Jellybean has as much impact on my life as the change from Gingerbread to ICS did, I might juszzzzzzzzzzzzzz......


But it's buttery good..

I got nothing...
 
2012-07-03 11:58:44 AM  

gingerjet: My brother and his wife bragged just a few days ago about getting brand new Android based phones with the latest version. Rather enjoyed showing them they were running 2.3.

/needless to say I don't get invited to many family events at their house


Doh!
 
2012-07-03 12:00:27 PM  

ThatGuyGreg: Farks given holding steady at 0.


(LIKE)

Why is the Nexus so slow?? It's a Google phone, running native ICS. Why is it so stuttery??
You can't even open the 80's dialer without it stuttering and tripping over itself.

/windows phone
//seriously, it's fantastic
 
2012-07-03 12:02:33 PM  
That's just... sad.

/ Happy with my iPhone
// Suck it, haters.
 
2012-07-03 12:05:31 PM  

illegal.tender: That's just... sad.

/ Happy with my iPhone
// Suck it, haters.


i.qkme.me
 
2012-07-03 12:06:32 PM  
We're at the 12mp camera point with phones. Add another 5mp and you won't notice. I'm on ICS and other than it looking cleaner, I can't tell a lot over Gingerbread. Jellybean has some stuff like Google Now and better speech stuff, but still, not a biggy.
 
2012-07-03 12:06:35 PM  
And this is why I'll never buy anything but a "reference" phone again. No skins, no "waiting for the vendor to port to the latest release". I've had an unlocked Galaxy Nexus for months and I'm LOVING it.

Depending on your uses, ICS can be a BIG step up from Gingerbread - especially if you have multiple gmail accounts (private vs. commercial apps, etc.) since now almost all the apps support multiple accounts.

And today I'll be loading Jellybean, since the locked "developers" ROM has now been converted to a regular image. And if I wasn't willing to do that, I'd have Jellybean via OTA in like two weeks.
 
2012-07-03 12:07:48 PM  

illegal.tender: That's just... sad.

/ Happy with my iPhone
// Suck it, haters.


iOS is much more useful now that they've started cribbing Android features. And Apple gets a handicap in the fragmentation game- they get to remove features from particular devices and still claim they're running the same version! By that logic, my phone is running Android 7.5, but with an older kernel and a different UI.
 
2012-07-03 12:07:58 PM  
Huh huh, you said penetration.

images.starpulse.com
 
2012-07-03 12:08:25 PM  
Good luck with the people on At&t
/Had a Captivate that never got updated, Had a Focus that took forever to get NoDo, Mango, and now Tango, Have a L900 and is now waiting for Tango.
//Will be getting a iPhone if it's 4.5" and have LTE or a WP8 just for the OTA updates
 
2012-07-03 12:08:53 PM  

Herbie555: And this is why I'll never buy anything but a "reference" phone again. No skins, no "waiting for the vendor to port to the latest release". I've had an unlocked Galaxy Nexus for months and I'm LOVING it


If I ever went back to Android, I'd be going out of my way to get a reference phone (or at least one that's easily crackable). The bugs introduced by the manufacturers and carriers farking with the OS and then not allowing updates to the newest version were a very large reason I gave up on Android.
 
2012-07-03 12:10:53 PM  

farkeruk: We're at the 12mp camera point with phones. Add another 5mp and you won't notice. I'm on ICS and other than it looking cleaner, I can't tell a lot over Gingerbread. Jellybean has some stuff like Google Now and better speech stuff, but still, not a biggy.


HTC's Titan II is 16mp and there is a Nokia at 41mp(pure view)
 
2012-07-03 12:11:30 PM  
Verizon looks to be setting up to roll out ICS to the Rezound (finally), so that'll bump the numbers a bit.

But really, there's not much of a reason for most people to need ICS. GB works. Unless you've got a multi-core phone, it's all just set dressing. JB sounds like it'll actually be a solid step forward, but that one's a year off (or more) for any carrier-branded phone.

Stop obsessing over your OS version. Can your current build do everything you want? If so, stop giving a shiat. Of not, does the next version actually add the functionality you need? If not, stop giving a shiat. Go get CM or something (which is, itself, based on GB).

/ICS should improve both CPU performance and battery life for my Rezound, so I'm hoping for it soon
 
2012-07-03 12:14:29 PM  
gunshyassassin.com

R.I.P. ICS Vortex
 
2012-07-03 12:15:07 PM  

Herbie555: And this is why I'll never buy anything but a "reference" phone again. No skins, no "waiting for the vendor to port to the latest release". I've had an unlocked Galaxy Nexus for months and I'm LOVING it.


My wife has a Galaxy S2 and while it's faster, it's loaded up with Samsung shiat. Apps that you can't remove, Samsung's shiatty store getting prominence. Copying files isn't as simple as "plug in, drivers automatically install, go" it's more like "download a massive farking file from Samsung, install it along with a whole load of software on your PC that you don't want".

And yes, despite buying my phone over a year earlier, I'll be on Jellybean soon while she's still on Gingerbread.
 
2012-07-03 12:19:46 PM  
Got a Samsung Galaxy S3 last weekend so I'm getting a kick, etc., etc......
 
2012-07-03 12:20:13 PM  
From an end-user perspective there isn't that much difference between Gingerbread and Honeycomb and ICS. I know developers would love to assume that devices have the latest tech, but honestly there isn't that much difference for everybody else.

As a person who owns nine Android tablets and an assortment of other gadgets. The only devices I've absolutely felt required to move to ICS were the ones with the most horribly broken UI overlays (Nook Color, Kindle Fire) or devices that were never intended to run Android in the first place (HP and RIM tablets).

I was pleasantly surprised when my Xoom tablet actually updated from Honeycomb to ICS through normal system updates; it's the only device I own that's done that so far.

I agree that it's a stupid mess, but Android devices are still infinitely better and more functional than what Apple offers.
 
2012-07-03 12:23:52 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: HTC's Titan II is 16mp and there is a Nokia at 41mp(pure view)


and apart from the fact that phones have crappy sensors and optics, who ever uses all those megapixels? Unless you're printing larger than A4, you won't tell the difference. The only people who need more than 10MP are professionals.
 
2012-07-03 12:24:10 PM  
To those in IL, Cook and Dupage counties have 4G LTE for AT&T.
/Will check if it's good in Kankakee county this weekend
//Checks bars while fishing
 
2012-07-03 12:29:40 PM  
I just bought a refurbished Skyrocket for $10 from AT&T, replacing my iPhone 3GS (which, honestly, I liked very much until it was made crappy by OS "upgrades".) Should I care about ICS? If I learned one thing from owning an iPhone "newer" OS most definitely does NOT mean "better."

Also, if I never have to used iTunes again, I'll be a happy camper. I very much liked my iPhone, but iTunes is an utter nightmare to me. I feel like I'm reading badly translated Japanese in all the iTunes menus.

I need a bit more explanation when something says would you like to sync. Let's say I've got files A, Bnew, Cold, D on my device, and A, Bold, Cnew, E on my computer.

After syncing what files are where? There should be more options.
Examples:
A, Bnew, Bold, Cnew, Cold, D, and E on both device and computer.
A, Bnew, Cnew, D, E on both device and computer.
A, Bnew, Cnew, D on device; A, Bnew, Cnew, E on computer.

I need to know what files are going away after a sync and how to opt out of that. Instead I get a message that says, "Are you sure?" No, goddamn it, I'm not sure.
 
2012-07-03 12:45:13 PM  

likefunbutnot: From an end-user perspective there isn't that much difference between Gingerbread and Honeycomb and ICS. I know developers would love to assume that devices have the latest tech, but honestly there isn't that much difference for everybody else.


Like I said, for me the big boost was that most (all?) of the native google apps are now multi-login aware. Since I have a commercial google apps account for work, but they don't pay for my phone (and thus it isn't the "primary" account), I can now access all the bells and whistles for either. Makes it very easy to stay connected when I'm out of the office, and I'm loving that group chats are now supported in Talk as well.

The other big improvement is partially device related: the change to the way the storage is partitioned (or no longer partitioned) is a big improvement. With my 1st android I was CONSTANTLY running out of app storage space. Upgrading an app or downloading a new one would instantly trigger the low-space warning and force me to find something else to try to move to the SD card, or find something I wasn't using to delete, or clear the data storage, etc. Now, it's just all there in one big silo.
 
2012-07-03 12:59:23 PM  
I just got a Droid Bionic, and I have to say that MotoBlur is still a steaming pile of shiat, the 4G/LTE connectivity is always dropping, and I am constantly getting force closes on everything. Supposedly, I now need to go get a new LTE sim card, and waste even more of my time fixing something that should have just worked in the first place. I am tired of feeling like a beta tester for everything Android.
 
2012-07-03 01:01:04 PM  

kahnzo: I just bought a refurbished Skyrocket for $10 from AT&T, replacing my iPhone 3GS (which, honestly, I liked very much until it was made crappy by OS "upgrades".) Should I care about ICS? If I learned one thing from owning an iPhone "newer" OS most definitely does NOT mean "better."

Also, if I never have to used iTunes again, I'll be a happy camper. I very much liked my iPhone, but iTunes is an utter nightmare to me. I feel like I'm reading badly translated Japanese in all the iTunes menus.

I need a bit more explanation when something says would you like to sync. Let's say I've got files A, Bnew, Cold, D on my device, and A, Bold, Cnew, E on my computer.

After syncing what files are where? There should be more options.
Examples:
A, Bnew, Bold, Cnew, Cold, D, and E on both device and computer.
A, Bnew, Cnew, D, E on both device and computer.
A, Bnew, Cnew, D on device; A, Bnew, Cnew, E on computer.

I need to know what files are going away after a sync and how to opt out of that. Instead I get a message that says, "Are you sure?" No, goddamn it, I'm not sure.


I'm pretty sure you get A, Bnew, Cnew, D, E on both device and computer. That's basic syncing. It will overwrite the file that hasn't changed, copy new files, and ask which one to use if they've both been changed. It isn't that difficult.
 
2012-07-03 01:01:13 PM  

Kuroshin: Verizon looks to be setting up to roll out ICS to the Rezound (finally), so that'll bump the numbers a bit.

But really, there's not much of a reason for most people to need ICS. GB works. Unless you've got a multi-core phone, it's all just set dressing. JB sounds like it'll actually be a solid step forward, but that one's a year off (or more) for any carrier-branded phone.

Stop obsessing over your OS version. Can your current build do everything you want? If so, stop giving a shiat. Of not, does the next version actually add the functionality you need? If not, stop giving a shiat. Go get CM or something (which is, itself, based on GB).

/ICS should improve both CPU performance and battery life for my Rezound, so I'm hoping for it soon


There's plenty of functional ICS leaks for the Rezound. I got tired of waiting on Verizon and installed it on my own. I'm running Ineffabilis Deus v1.1 myself and it's very nice.

CM9 is based on ICS by the way.. There's no copy for the Rezound because no one has figured out the RIL (Radio Interface Layer) to get it to play nice with the Rezound hardware...

And no, ICS doesn't make much of a difference with the battery, nothing you can do about the power hungry screen and 4G radios in it...
 
2012-07-03 01:04:53 PM  

The Angry Hand of God: I just got a Droid Bionic, and I have to say that MotoBlur is still a steaming pile of shiat, the 4G/LTE connectivity is always dropping, and I am constantly getting force closes on everything. Supposedly, I now need to go get a new LTE sim card, and waste even more of my time fixing something that should have just worked in the first place. I am tired of feeling like a beta tester for everything Android.


You're more of a beta tester for Moto's first 4G LTE phone, Android isn't the problem...
 
2012-07-03 01:10:31 PM  

Tobin_Lam: 'm pretty sure you get A, Bnew, Cnew, D, E on both device and computer. That's basic syncing. It will overwrite the file that hasn't changed, copy new files, and ask which one to use if they've both been changed. It isn't that difficult.


If you're talking about iTunes, nope. Under iTunes syncing, the stuff on the device is obliterated and replaced with the contents of the computer.
 
2012-07-03 01:19:04 PM  

mjones73: And no, ICS doesn't make much of a difference with the battery, nothing you can do about the power hungry screen and 4G radios in it...


Well, you can turn off radios you aren't using, turn down the screen brightness and add a hosts file to keep your freebie apps from making extra data connections just to grab ads. Those things all help quite a lot. And really only adding a hosts file requires a modded device.
 
2012-07-03 01:34:33 PM  
I'm pretty sure that Tobin_Lam doesn't know how iTunes works.
 
2012-07-03 01:46:31 PM  

farkeruk: My wife has a Galaxy S2 and while it's faster, it's loaded up with Samsung shiat. Apps that you can't remove, Samsung's shiatty store getting prominence. Copying files isn't as simple as "plug in, drivers automatically install, go" it's more like "download a massive farking file from Samsung, install it along with a whole load of software on your PC that you don't want".


Kies is a huge pain in the ass. Basically Samsung's version of iTunes, without the store. I just upgraded from Gingerbread to ICS on my S2 and the only reason I knew it was available was because one of my friends told me. Nothing from my carrier at all - they were woefully poor at letting people know that ti was even in development, let alone released.

Since upgrading to ICS, the only major differences I've noticed have been that I can now install Chrome as my browser (yay) and fonts and layouts appear to have changed. Nothing else is particularly noticeable. The browser operates at the same speed, same as the applications.
 
2012-07-03 01:49:56 PM  

likefunbutnot: mjones73: And no, ICS doesn't make much of a difference with the battery, nothing you can do about the power hungry screen and 4G radios in it...

Well, you can turn off radios you aren't using, turn down the screen brightness and add a hosts file to keep your freebie apps from making extra data connections just to grab ads. Those things all help quite a lot. And really only adding a hosts file requires a modded device.


I have 2 out of three of those covered, haven't gotten around to the host file yet. Thanks for the tips though.
 
2012-07-03 01:51:14 PM  
Every other sync, other than iTunes, does exactly what Tobin_Lam described.
 
2012-07-03 01:51:26 PM  

GavinTheAlmighty: farkeruk: My wife has a Galaxy S2 and while it's faster, it's loaded up with Samsung shiat. Apps that you can't remove, Samsung's shiatty store getting prominence. Copying files isn't as simple as "plug in, drivers automatically install, go" it's more like "download a massive farking file from Samsung, install it along with a whole load of software on your PC that you don't want".

Kies is a huge pain in the ass. Basically Samsung's version of iTunes, without the store. I just upgraded from Gingerbread to ICS on my S2 and the only reason I knew it was available was because one of my friends told me. Nothing from my carrier at all - they were woefully poor at letting people know that ti was even in development, let alone released.

Since upgrading to ICS, the only major differences I've noticed have been that I can now install Chrome as my browser (yay) and fonts and layouts appear to have changed. Nothing else is particularly noticeable. The browser operates at the same speed, same as the applications.


Chrome does work real well on these phones, you'd think google would make it the default browser since you know, they make it... :)

It recently lost it's Beta tag too.
 
2012-07-03 01:52:12 PM  
Got an S3. It is awesome sauce. Not sure what the anti-Android people are biatching on about.
 
2012-07-03 01:55:48 PM  

mjones73: Chrome does work real well on these phones, you'd think google would make it the default browser since you know, they make it... :)


That's the plan.

GavinTheAlmighty: Since upgrading to ICS, the only major differences I've noticed have been that I can now install Chrome as my browser (yay) and fonts and layouts appear to have changed. Nothing else is particularly noticeable.


More flexible notifications. Apps can stick controls into that screen. Like this settings app-

lh3.ggpht.com

Those settings are all available from the notification menu, inside any app. Some phones have this kind of thing pre-installed, but it's nice.
 
2012-07-03 01:59:08 PM  

sure haven't: ThatGuyGreg: Farks given holding steady at 0.

(LIKE)

Why is the Nexus so slow?? It's a Google phone, running native ICS. Why is it so stuttery??
You can't even open the 80's dialer without it stuttering and tripping over itself.

/windows phone
//seriously, it's fantastic


I don't know what you're talking about, my Galaxy Nexus is farking tits. I'm running Jelly Bean and I've got the S3 patch, I don't envision I'll be needing a new phone for years.
 
2012-07-03 02:07:26 PM  

kingoomieiii: Tobin_Lam: 'm pretty sure you get A, Bnew, Cnew, D, E on both device and computer. That's basic syncing. It will overwrite the file that hasn't changed, copy new files, and ask which one to use if they've both been changed. It isn't that difficult.

If you're talking about iTunes, nope. Under iTunes syncing, the stuff on the device is obliterated and replaced with the contents of the computer.


Obviously, iTunes is such a POS that experiences greatly differ from person to person. I was just describing what happens when I sync my phone. What you seem to be talking about is when someone tries to sync their phone with your library. It will wipe it.
 
2012-07-03 02:25:33 PM  
Tobin_Lam, how do you get iTunes to do what you described? I wouldn't mind that.
 
2012-07-03 02:56:00 PM  

kahnzo: Tobin_Lam, how do you get iTunes to do what you described? I wouldn't mind that.


I feel like I might have misunderstood what you were describing. When I changed something on my phone, it was reflected on my computer when I synced it. If I changed something on my computer, it reflected on my iPhone the next time I synced it. That's what's happened with multiple iPhones and multiple computers ever since the first iPhone. That's what I thought you were talking about. Obviously you were thinking about something else.
 
2012-07-03 04:07:45 PM  

Herbie555: The other big improvement is partially device related: the change to the way the storage is partitioned (or no longer partitioned) is a big improvement. With my 1st android I was CONSTANTLY running out of app storage space. Upgrading an app or downloading a new one would instantly trigger the low-space warning and force me to find something else to try to move to the SD card, or find something I wasn't using to delete, or clear the data storage, etc. Now, it's just all there in one big silo.


Isn't that device-specific? Or did they change assumptions the OS was making?

Mrs. Anomaly was running into that problem on her Incredible all the time. I built her a Cyanogenmod with the partitioning shuffled around (since she didn't use hardly any of the internal media storage space). Now she has a Rezound and hasn't had that problem yet.
 
2012-07-03 04:18:40 PM  
Galaxy S2 running Shostock2 ICS rom. No more Samsung bloatware and it kicks major ass.
 
2012-07-03 04:53:32 PM  

The Angry Hand of God: I just got a Droid Bionic, and I have to say that MotoBlur is still a steaming pile of shiat, the 4G/LTE connectivity is always dropping, and I am constantly getting force closes on everything. Supposedly, I now need to go get a new LTE sim card, and waste even more of my time fixing something that should have just worked in the first place. I am tired of feeling like a beta tester for everything Android.


Hopefully by "just" you don't mean in the last month or two. That phone has been known to be a pile of shiat since it came out in august. It's almost a year old. You could've had yourself a galaxy nexus. Really should've gone with that instead. And no, the droid razr isn't much better than the bionic.
 
2012-07-03 05:10:38 PM  
I am running ICS on an original HTC incredible.... Works fine, a bit of a battery drainer..I don't see the big deal about ICS, just a bit more polished than previous versions of the OS..Of course fandroids will tell you that ics cures cancer.
 
2012-07-03 05:33:02 PM  

kingflower: I am running ICS on an original HTC incredible.... Works fine, a bit of a battery drainer..I don't see the big deal about ICS, just a bit more polished than previous versions of the OS..Of course fandroids will tell you that ics cures cancer.


Jelly Bean does.
 
2012-07-03 05:44:29 PM  

kingflower: Of course fandroids will tell you that ics cures cancer.


As I said before, Android updates tend to be pretty non-essential for end users. The happier stuff that happens on Android devices are getting access to Google-native apps for devices that don't include them, or Google's app store for devices that don't have that, or putting on a proper ad blocker to make free apps less annoying. That stuff doesn't really come from OS updates so much as loading a third party ROM.
 
2012-07-03 06:02:24 PM  

likefunbutnot: Android devices are still infinitely better and more functional than what Apple offers.


...infinitely?
 
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