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(Pro Football Talk)   "We aren't saying the Chargers are moving to LA, but the Chargers are moving to LA"   (profootballtalk.nbcsports.com) divider line 58
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2012-07-03 11:43:47 AM
It makes the most sense to move to LA if they can't replace their stadium in SD. Why should SoCal need 2 teams anyway?
 
2012-07-03 11:45:04 AM

El Brujo: It makes the most sense to move to LA if they can't replace their stadium in SD. Why should SoCal need 2 teams anyway?


Who does New Jersey need two teams?
 
2012-07-03 11:45:40 AM
Better them than the Jags. Heck with the new owner in Jax, the Jags just may end up staying
 
2012-07-03 12:00:34 PM
www.allfunnyfaces.com

How exciting! Another failed team in LA
 
2012-07-03 12:18:39 PM
L.A. does not deserve another team.
 
2012-07-03 12:22:54 PM
Chargers started in Los Angeles. This is good.
 
2012-07-03 12:23:21 PM

DubyaHater: [www.allfunnyfaces.com image 300x247]

How exciting! Another failed team in LA


Failed is right:

t3.gstatic.com
 
2012-07-03 12:25:21 PM

mikaloyd: Chargers started in Los Angeles. This is good.


The Lakers started in Minnesota. They should move.

/I love the chargers in SD
 
2012-07-03 12:27:32 PM
I'm hoping that a new stadium can be built without being linked to a new convention center and the Chargers and SD can live in peace and harmony.


Come on!! We'll only have the Padres!!! That ain't right.
 
2012-07-03 12:27:44 PM

pregerstheHobo: DubyaHater: [www.allfunnyfaces.com image 300x247]

How exciting! Another failed team in LA

Failed is right:

[t3.gstatic.com image 229x220]


Even though I grew up a Broncos fan, I feel compelled to remind everyone they do have an AFL championship. I know, we have severe long-term memory myopia issues in sports, but it IS a league championship.
 
2012-07-03 12:37:34 PM
Meh, it'd be unfortunate for San Diego, but I can't see how they'd be able to afford a new stadium.
 
2012-07-03 12:37:43 PM
Raiders fans can make it back faster to their appointments with their parole officers
 
2012-07-03 12:38:43 PM
Lol fark em they suck regardless if they play in LA or SD
 
2012-07-03 12:50:54 PM
FTFC: Will they copy a page from the MLB's Angels and become the Los Angeles Chargers of San Diego? Lol

Maybe the Chargers of San Angeles?
 
2012-07-03 12:59:06 PM

drivingsouth:

Come on!! We'll only have the Padres!!! That ain't right.


More than we got....

/Austin
 
2012-07-03 01:03:32 PM
Is this why Seau killed himself? He knew something we didn't?
 
2012-07-03 01:06:55 PM

Nobodyn0se: drivingsouth:

Come on!! We'll only have the Padres!!! That ain't right.

More than we got....

/Austin


Aren't you in between two larger cities with lots of pro teams?
 
2012-07-03 01:15:38 PM
It's a pipe dream that I'll believe when I see. I see the Raiders heading back to L.A. before the Chargers. The problem with the L.A. sports market is that, while it's the second largest market in the country, L.A. is filled with fair-weather fans and transplants.
 
2012-07-03 01:23:13 PM

sandogtim: It's a pipe dream that I'll believe when I see. I see the Raiders heading back to L.A. before the Chargers. The problem with the L.A. sports market is that, while it's the second largest market in the country, L.A. is filled with fair-weather fans and transplants.


San Diego has the same issues.
 
2012-07-03 01:24:08 PM

sandogtim: It's a pipe dream that I'll believe when I see. I see the Raiders heading back to L.A. before the Chargers. The problem with the L.A. sports market is that, while it's the second largest market in the country, L.A. is filled with fair-weather fans and transplants.


So is Seattle but the Hawks do very well.

/loudest place to see a game in the league
//your clothes will literally vibrate
 
2012-07-03 02:11:22 PM

El Brujo: It makes the most sense to move to LA if they can't replace their stadium in SD. Why should SoCal need 2 teams anyway?


Hell, why does SoCal need LA?
 
2012-07-03 02:14:20 PM

davidphogan: sandogtim: It's a pipe dream that I'll believe when I see. I see the Raiders heading back to L.A. before the Chargers. The problem with the L.A. sports market is that, while it's the second largest market in the country, L.A. is filled with fair-weather fans and transplants.

San Diego has the same issues.


It does but not to the degree that L.A. has it. San Diego can at least sell out a stadium and avoid a blackout.
 
2012-07-03 02:18:28 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: El Brujo: It makes the most sense to move to LA if they can't replace their stadium in SD. Why should SoCal need 2 teams anyway?

Hell, why does SoCal need LA?


NorCal sure as shiat doesn't want it.
 
2012-07-03 02:25:09 PM
sandogtim: The problem with the L.A. sports market is that, while it's the second largest market in the country, L.A. is filled with fair-weather fans and transplants.

Yes, there's lot of least coasters and middlessterners clogging up the freeways and causing pollution here, but they still go to games. Fans here aren't "fair-weather", we're just not total effing morons like Cubs fans who show up no matter how bad the team is playing, giving ownership no real incentive to invest to improve the team long-term.

I live an hour from the mountains (snowboarding), the beach (windsurfing) and the desert (desert bicycling), why the hell would I spend my money on a team that sucks when I can be doing that stuff or any of the zillion of other things this city has to offer? We're not stuck in a hellhole like Milwaukee or Jacksonville here.

As for the teams that left here, let's review, shall we?

* Chargers: AFL team (i.e. minor league), left after one year, no one here I've ever met even remembers them being here

* Rams: They *dominated* the sports landscape here in from the 50's-70's (the Showtime Lakers were years away). Played in an aging old stadium. When the prostitute lounge singer who had her husband murdered so she could take over the team threw a hissy fit about a new stadium/renovations at the Coliseum, the City Council called her bluff. She moved to Anaheim, a two-hour drive in LA traffic for a good chunk of the fan base, to the worst multi-purpose stadium ever. EVER. If you sat in what was right field, you might as well been in Tustin. She then tried to extort a NEW stadium out of the city of Anaheim > they refused to cave > she packed up and left. All that drama in Anaheim dragged out for six years, she let the team crumble, good for the fans for not showing up.

* Raiders
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So, that scumbag failed to extort a new stadium out of the City of Oakland, moves here. The Raiders blow up, y'all, are wildly popular with whites, blacks and Latinos, but they still play in a crumbling stadium at the Coliseum. Scumbag Al tried to extort a stadium out of the City of Inglewood (home to the Forum and Hollywood Park race track) and fails; he then gets the city of Irwindale, which is a rock quarry --literally-- 30 miles from Downtown to pay him $10 million when he promises to build a stadium there. He lied, of course, took the money and ran back to Oakland and the *second* worst multi-purpose stadium ever. All that dragged out for close to seven years, why would fans buy season tickets for a team that was obviously going to move?

Other bright ideas: Movie agent Michael Ovitz and his pals plan to build a stadium in Carson, next to toxic dumps. People laugh at him = FAIL.

AEG (Philip Anschutz) get in the game. I did temp work for AEG and one day I saw a model of a football stadium sitting in the corner of an unused office. Know why it was never built? Because AEG and movie business brat Casey Wasserman announced they were going to build the stadium by Staples Center and oh yeah, that sweet sweet taxpayer money will help defray their costs. The City Council: LOL Wut? You're not getting a penny of taxpayer money, billionaires. Within 2 days the project was dead.

So, to recap: two of the worst owners in sports had teams here and left when the taxpayers wouldn't build them new stadiums, and the group (AEG) that failed to extort a stadium out of the City/County is back 10 years + later and they're all "No taxpayer money! Honest!" for Farmers Field by Staples/the Convention Center.

Ed Roski announced grand plans for a stadium/retail project out in the middle of nowhere. OK, it's supposed to be in Industry, which has no real population and is --wait for it-- a horrible drive of at least 2 hours for most of the expected fanbase who will have the bucks to buy PSL's and luxury boxes. People here in the know think he's insane, but he's determined to get it built. Whatever, dude, whatevs.

We're great sports fans here but we're not suckers like the fools in Minnesota who couldn't bend over quick enough to let the Wilf's screw them out of taxpayer money.

/Sorry, I know this is tl;dnr
//For the historical record
 
2012-07-03 02:25:50 PM
la.curbed.com

/hot like ari
 
2012-07-03 02:36:28 PM
LA might be the only city in California worse than San Diego.
 
2012-07-03 03:27:16 PM

ricewater_stool: LA might be the only city in California worse than San Diego.


Downey
 
2012-07-03 03:35:31 PM

mikaloyd: Chargers started in Los Angeles. This is good.



A lot of teams started in LA

El Brujo: It makes the most sense to move to LA if they can't replace their stadium in SD. Why should SoCal need 2 teams anyway?



Why replace a stadium if the owners can't afford it? Why should tax payers subsidize the profits of a private company?

And what the hell is "socal?"

Is that a city or something? Last time I checked, San Diego was over 100 miles away from Los Angeles, making it its own city.

San Francisco is across the bay from Oakland, why should "norcal" get 2 teams? Why should New Jersey get 2 teams?
 
2012-07-03 03:36:21 PM

Lunchlady: ricewater_stool: LA might be the only city in California worse than San Diego.

Downey


Etna
 
2012-07-03 03:37:14 PM

ricewater_stool: LA might be the only city in California worse than San Diego.



Bakersfield, Sacramento, Oakland, Chino, Richmond, Stockton etc etc etc.
 
2012-07-03 03:50:49 PM

intelligent comment below: ricewater_stool: LA might be the only city in California worse than San Diego.


Bakersfield, Sacramento, Oakland, Chino, Richmond, Stockton etc etc etc.


10 'STOCKTON'
20 GOTO 10

Working in Stockton right now... I've worked in Detroit, Houston, LA, Little Rock and New Orleans... Stockton is far and away the worst city I've ever been to.

Just finished projects in Modesto and Bakersfield before that... although they're in the running... still nothing like Stockton.

Kalifornia pretty much sucks... and I was born in LA.

Oh... and on topic... the Chargers aren't moving. The "International" appeal of the team/location is something Goodell will never give up.
 
rka
2012-07-03 03:57:19 PM

sandogtim: davidphogan: sandogtim: It's a pipe dream that I'll believe when I see. I see the Raiders heading back to L.A. before the Chargers. The problem with the L.A. sports market is that, while it's the second largest market in the country, L.A. is filled with fair-weather fans and transplants.

San Diego has the same issues.

It does but not to the degree that L.A. has it. San Diego can at least sell out a stadium and avoid a blackout.


That's not a given.
 
2012-07-03 04:09:52 PM

sandogtim: It's a pipe dream that I'll believe when I see. I see the Raiders heading back to L.A. before the Chargers. The problem with the L.A. sports market is that, while it's the second largest market in the country, L.A. is filled with fair-weather fans and transplants.


This is only part of the problem. We have fans, great ones! But we also have everything else we could want. All the entertainment, food, outdoor activities, and good weather to do them when we want.

This is probably best seen with concerts. Entertainers complain we aren't a good audience. That's because in Farksville Idaho, having a big concert come to town is an event worth waiting for and worth cheering for. For Los Angeles it's just Saturday night. One of the dozens of other awesome things to do in one of the 20 fun places to hang out. If it's a bad performance, we're not going to be gracious. I mean, even with all the things we have, we are still only a 4 hour drive from Vegas. It can be hard to make us excited about something so common.

Personally, I would love a football team here. Any team except the Raiders. And if it is any team except the Raiders I will be there to buy season tickets. If it is the Raiders, well, I value my life and will stick to TV thank you.
 
2012-07-03 04:11:32 PM

intelligent comment below: And what the hell is "socal?"


Southern California. Pretty much everything south of and including Los Angeles.
 
2012-07-03 04:47:38 PM
Great...now its going to be the Los Angeles Chargers of San Diego....
 
2012-07-03 04:52:40 PM

sandogtim: It does but not to the degree that L.A. has it. San Diego can at least sell out a stadium and avoid a blackout.


Give Al Davis and Georgia Frontiere money? Good fans force bad owners to change. These owners refused to change, so we told them good riddance. The Dodgers have (some) good fans and forced that douche Frank McCourt to sell by not going to the games. Redskins fans, on the other hand, keep giving Dan Synder money hand over fist by selling out games in that gigantic stadium year after year. Redskins fans aren't better fans because they waste their money lining the pockets of an idiot.
 
2012-07-03 04:53:09 PM
Christ, I hope not. We still have problems w/ local affiliates choosing terrible, terrible games. A few years ago, the Patriots and Colts were undefeated, Manning and Brady were ripping everyone apart, and they were going to throw down. So what did KCBS decide to show? The farking Raiders. What a goddamn joke.
 
2012-07-03 04:54:10 PM

TGWJH: intelligent comment below: And what the hell is "socal?"

Southern California. Pretty much everything south of and including Los Angeles.


Also FYI, Northern California starts just above Redding. Everything below is where the Flatlanders live, AKA Central California.

We tried to become our own state, but the Japanese farked that up. Link
 
2012-07-03 04:57:40 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: TGWJH: intelligent comment below: And what the hell is "socal?"

Southern California. Pretty much everything south of and including Los Angeles.

Also FYI, Northern California starts just above Redding. Everything below is where the Flatlanders live, AKA Central California.

We tried to become our own state, but the Japanese farked that up. Link


Realistically, there's the Central Valley and the Central Coast(Santa Maria or Santa Barbara to Santa Cruz or there abouts).
 
2012-07-03 05:08:08 PM

bhcompy: Give Al Davis and Georgia Frontiere money? Good fans force bad owners to change.


I hated the bastard with the heat of 1,000 suns, but Al Davis was only a bad owner to other teams (including my Oakland A's) and towns. He was a sub-human and made some bad decisions later in life, but he was a pit bull/silverback gorilla biatch cross when it came to his team. The SOB burned every bridge he ever crossed, but for the most part he WON. I gotta respect that. I'm a Bronco fan, so I'd buy a season ticket to piss on his grave, but I gotta admit he was the toughest farker in the NFL. Al Davis earned his legacy, both good and bad.
 
2012-07-03 05:19:11 PM

bhcompy: Realistically, there's the Central Valley and the Central Coast(Santa Maria or Santa Barbara to Santa Cruz or there abouts).


Oh sure, realistically. But I'm talking our own inbred, iconoclastic, exclusive, xenophobic, hillbilly logic. No one in California below Redding has our best interests in mind or at heart.

The State of Jefferson's motto was "Our roads are impassable, barely jackassable". Our state seal was a gold pan with two "X"es on it for the double crossing that we received in Sacramento. NorCal exists only as a resource fount for SoCal. We ARE the hind tit.
 
2012-07-03 05:23:08 PM
TGWJH: This is probably best seen with concerts. Entertainers complain we aren't a good audience. That's because in Farksville Idaho, having a big concert come to town is an event worth waiting for and worth cheering for. For Los Angeles it's just Saturday night.

Along with London, New York, Chicago and maybe San Francisco, Los Angeles is a required tour stop for any band/performer. It's where the record business (what's left of it) still has the creative people (the $$$ people are in NYC), it's where we've seen it all before. I went to see the British band Marillion at the House of Blues West Hollywood last week and the crowd was incredible > Marillion played their asses off > the crowd went even more berserk. I went to the show at the Fillmore (awesome venue) and the crowd wasn't half as good.

bhcompy: Redskins fans, on the other hand, keep giving Dan Synder money hand over fist by selling out games in that gigantic stadium year after year. Redskins fans aren't better fans because they waste their money lining the pockets of an idiot.

That's who I was also trying to think of when mentioning how the Cubs fans enable the owners to not do squat to improve the team/farm system, thanks for pointing out Snyder.
 
2012-07-03 05:34:03 PM

ricewater_stool: LA might be the only city in California worse than San Diego.


Says the farker from Detoilet. Excuse me, I meant "Detroit".
 
2012-07-03 05:43:00 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: bhcompy: Give Al Davis and Georgia Frontiere money? Good fans force bad owners to change.

I hated the bastard with the heat of 1,000 suns, but Al Davis was only a bad owner to other teams (including my Oakland A's) and towns. He was a sub-human and made some bad decisions later in life, but he was a pit bull/silverback gorilla biatch cross when it came to his team. The SOB burned every bridge he ever crossed, but for the most part he WON. I gotta respect that. I'm a Bronco fan, so I'd buy a season ticket to piss on his grave, but I gotta admit he was the toughest farker in the NFL. Al Davis earned his legacy, both good and bad.


His stubbornness was good, but it was also very bad. He didn't just burn bridges with the NFL brass, he burned bridges with his fan base. I respect what he did in some ways, but that is only abstract. You can't be an LA citizen and really like Al Davis for what he did as a Raider fan
 
2012-07-03 05:49:19 PM

sandogtim: davidphogan: sandogtim: It's a pipe dream that I'll believe when I see. I see the Raiders heading back to L.A. before the Chargers. The problem with the L.A. sports market is that, while it's the second largest market in the country, L.A. is filled with fair-weather fans and transplants.

San Diego has the same issues.

It does but not to the degree that L.A. has it. San Diego can at least sell out a stadium and avoid a blackout.


SD is a smaller city with a much larger military population. I doubt LA would have as many blackouts as SD has over the past decade.
 
2012-07-03 05:49:53 PM

bhcompy: His stubbornness was good, but it was also very bad. He didn't just burn bridges with the NFL brass, he burned bridges with his fan base. I respect what he did in some ways, but that is only abstract. You can't be an LA citizen and really like Al Davis for what he did as a Raider fan


Yup, you're right. I cheered every bad decision Al Davis ever made. He was an asshole of the first water.
 
2012-07-03 05:51:31 PM

bhcompy: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: TGWJH: intelligent comment below: And what the hell is "socal?"

Southern California. Pretty much everything south of and including Los Angeles.

Also FYI, Northern California starts just above Redding. Everything below is where the Flatlanders live, AKA Central California.

We tried to become our own state, but the Japanese farked that up. Link

Realistically, there's the Central Valley and the Central Coast(Santa Maria or Santa Barbara to Santa Cruz or there abouts).


Bay Area high school sports were part of CCS(Central Coast Section). That was while i lived there, don't know if it's still the same.
 
2012-07-03 05:55:59 PM
Found this:
California Interscholastic Federation

Central Coast Section

Governance of high school athletic programs from
San Francisco to King City


Don't know what they call it north of San Francisco, or south of King City.
 
2012-07-03 06:05:57 PM

muck4doo: Found this:
California Interscholastic Federation

Central Coast Section

Governance of high school athletic programs from
San Francisco to King City

Don't know what they call it north of San Francisco, or south of King City.


Technically speaking SF is on the central coast, but you won't hear anyone in SF, SJ, or Oakland saying they're a central coast town. Different social identities
 
2012-07-03 06:06:43 PM

TGWJH: intelligent comment below: And what the hell is "socal?"

Southern California. Pretty much everything south of and including Los Angeles.



So it's not an actual city then. So complaining about 2 different cities over 100 miles apart each having their own sports team is pretty retarded then, right?
 
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