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2012-07-02 05:31:49 PM  
For f*cks sake.

You claim to be all about Jesus, get your discounted po'boy then go the hell home.
 
2012-07-02 05:39:58 PM  
He should get a bulletin from a Satanic church service and go get himself some catfish.

Geez. Why do so many people feel the need to mind everyone else's business?
 
2012-07-02 05:46:31 PM  
People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name
 
2012-07-02 05:49:41 PM  

jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name


I was ready to say this too, but then I saw that the dude is 80 and decided to chalk it up to old man yells at cloud.
 
2012-07-02 05:50:31 PM  
If the restaurant was run by the state I could see there being an issue, but it isn't. It's a privately owned, independent restaurant. Separation of church and state doesn't even factor in.

Having said that, I wonder if this organization has gone after Chick-fil-A yet. Do they even have restaurants in Pennsylvania?
 
2012-07-02 05:54:17 PM  

exick: jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name

I was ready to say this too, but then I saw that the dude is 80 and decided to chalk it up to old man yells at cloud.


My bad for not reading the article. I'll concur that old man yells at cloud
 
2012-07-02 05:54:34 PM  
So what would happen if you offered a discount for everyone who threw a bible in the trash when they walked in?
 
2012-07-02 05:55:58 PM  
Never pass up a chance to fan the flames of hatred against atheists

/f*ck you, subby
 
2012-07-02 05:57:58 PM  
Remember age discrimination is wrong, unless it's a senior discount at stake.
And religious discrimination is wrong, unless it's a church bulletin discount at stake.

Would they accept a temple or mosque bulletin for the discount?
 
2012-07-02 05:59:14 PM  
Good. Hope she wins.
 
2012-07-02 06:01:14 PM  

exick: jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name

I was ready to say this too, but then I saw that the dude is 80 and decided to chalk it up to old man yells at cloud.


This.

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Never pass up a chance to fan the flames of hatred against atheists

/f*ck you, subby


And this.
 
2012-07-02 06:03:20 PM  
Attention whore.
 
2012-07-02 06:03:23 PM  

jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name


Totes this.

There's a reason no atheist has been elected president, and it's not because of the Christian voters.
 
2012-07-02 06:03:55 PM  

exick: jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name

I was ready to say this too, but then I saw that the dude is 80 and decided to chalk it up to old man yells at cloud.


Yeah, pretty much. Is this restaurant owned by the state? No? It's a private business? Then buzz off.

/atheist
//bets the people who wait tables at this place LOOOOOVVVVEEE this promotion
///and the tips those church groups bring in
 
2012-07-02 06:04:52 PM  
Wolff, who said he's never been to Prudhomme's, recently filed a complaint with the Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission

WTF is a "Human Relations Commission", and how fast can I get my teabagging governor to cut its funding?
 
2012-07-02 06:04:56 PM  

FishyFred: exick: jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name

I was ready to say this too, but then I saw that the dude is 80 and decided to chalk it up to old man yells at cloud.

Yeah, pretty much. Is this restaurant owned by the state? No? It's a private business? Then buzz off.

/atheist
//bets the people who wait tables at this place LOOOOOVVVVEEE this promotion
///and the tips those church groups bring in


Obligatory "Private business should be allowed to give white person discount then" response.
 
2012-07-02 06:07:12 PM  

FishyFred: exick: jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name

I was ready to say this too, but then I saw that the dude is 80 and decided to chalk it up to old man yells at cloud.

Yeah, pretty much. Is this restaurant owned by the state? No? It's a private business? Then buzz off.

/atheist
//bets the people who wait tables at this place LOOOOOVVVVEEE this promotion
///and the tips those church groups bring in


They're a bunch of Mennonites and Baptists that already got cleaned out by their fire and brimstone pastor. You're looking at 15%, tops, and that's AFTER the discount.

/to mennonite: how you make an amish girl happy
 
2012-07-02 06:08:50 PM  
Private business, not a First Amendment issue. If they were refusing service to atheists, I could understand a complaint, but this is just silly. Old guy, foreign born, so he can't be expected to have an understanding of US law.


I was surprised at the implication that FFRF was involved, so I checked. They aren't. The guy is a member of FFRF, but this complaint has nothing to do with them. He filed it on his own, without backing or support from FFRF, and it's not mentioned on their website.
 
2012-07-02 06:09:14 PM  

meat0918: FishyFred: exick: jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name

I was ready to say this too, but then I saw that the dude is 80 and decided to chalk it up to old man yells at cloud.

Yeah, pretty much. Is this restaurant owned by the state? No? It's a private business? Then buzz off.

/atheist
//bets the people who wait tables at this place LOOOOOVVVVEEE this promotion
///and the tips those church groups bring in

Obligatory "Private business should be allowed to give white person discount then" response.


To be fair, you would have to leave your whiteness at the restaurant, just like your church service program.
 
2012-07-02 06:10:32 PM  

FloydA: Private business, not a First Amendment issue. If they were refusing service to atheists, I could understand a complaint, but this is just silly. Old guy, foreign born, so he can't be expected to have an understanding of US law.


I was surprised at the implication that FFRF was involved, so I checked. They aren't. The guy is a member of FFRF, but this complaint has nothing to do with them. He filed it on his own, without backing or support from FFRF, and it's not mentioned on their website.


I'm not far from there. I might have to walk in with a Playboy centerfold and tell them I'm from the Church of Tits and Ass. See what they say.
 
2012-07-02 06:15:49 PM  
I just kind of blew it off. Gosh, I have more things to concentrate on.

Don't we all, lady.

Don't we all...
 
2012-07-02 06:16:34 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Never pass up a chance to fan the flames of hatred against atheists

/f*ck you, subby


Submitter. I don't hate him because he's an atheist; I hate that he's another no-life-haver who feels the need to mind everyone else's business.
 
2012-07-02 06:18:15 PM  

Shostie: I just kind of blew it off. Gosh, I have more things to concentrate on.

Don't we all, lady.

Don't we all...


I especially like the "gosh".
 
2012-07-02 06:18:50 PM  
Diners who bring in a current church bulletin receive 10 percent off the purchase of their dinners.

Aren't all U.S. citizens guaranteed a separation of church and plate?
 
2012-07-02 06:22:52 PM  
I'm outraged that if somebody presents their ticket stub from a game at the local high school can get free fries from McD's. Assholes. I don't do high school sports.
 
2012-07-02 06:25:44 PM  
To use an oldie but goodie, the stick up that atheist's butt must have a stick up its butt.

\seriously, dude could just go to a farking church parking lot and find one on the ground for the discount if he wanted to go and give them a 5% tip that badly
\\you know the guy's a bad tipper, you just know it
 
2012-07-02 06:26:01 PM  
Apparently they'll let anybody file a complaint with the PHRC. Whoever the hell they are and for all the good it does.
 
2012-07-02 06:26:34 PM  

Marcus Aurelius:
I'm not far from there. I might have to walk in with a Playboy centerfold and tell them I'm from the Church of Tits and Ass. See what they say.


Interesting idea. Better yet, find some of the Subgeniuses or Discordians at Allbright or Harrisburg Area Comm. Coll. (there are always some) and whip up some Bob or Eris pamphlets. See if those get you a discount, or if it's only "the right" religions.
 
2012-07-02 06:29:54 PM  

Sensei Can You See: he's another no-life-haver


FriarReb98: the stick up that atheist's butt must have a stick up its butt.



He's 80. Being grumpy for no good reason is his duty.
 
2012-07-02 06:34:37 PM  

FloydA: Marcus Aurelius:
I'm not far from there. I might have to walk in with a Playboy centerfold and tell them I'm from the Church of Tits and Ass. See what they say.

Interesting idea. Better yet, find some of the Subgeniuses or Discordians at Allbright or Harrisburg Area Comm. Coll. (there are always some) and whip up some Bob or Eris pamphlets. See if those get you a discount, or if it's only "the right" religions.


Hah. Walk in dressed as an Arab holding a piece of papyrus covered in Arabic writing, and start ALLAH HU AKBARing. THAT would be fun.
 
2012-07-02 06:35:54 PM  

FloydA: Marcus Aurelius:
I'm not far from there. I might have to walk in with a Playboy centerfold and tell them I'm from the Church of Tits and Ass. See what they say.

Interesting idea. Better yet, find some of the Subgeniuses or Discordians at Allbright or Harrisburg Area Comm. Coll. (there are always some) and whip up some Bob or Eris pamphlets. See if those get you a discount, or if it's only "the right" religions.


No, wait, I've got it. FSM programs. The main hymn would start off, "On top of spaghetti, all covered in cheese".
 
2012-07-02 06:36:26 PM  
There are crazy, stupid extremists on both sides of the fence folks. Plenty of crazy extremist Christians, Jews, Muslims, and atheists. The stupid and the crazy doesn't just fall into one neat little pile, unfortunately.
 
2012-07-02 06:38:33 PM  

InfamousBLT: There are crazy, stupid extremists on both sides of the fence folks. Plenty of crazy extremist Christians, Jews, Muslims, and atheists. The stupid and the crazy doesn't just fall into one neat little pile, unfortunately.


"Extremist atheists" seem to be cranky 80 year old men who complain about stupid things.

Extremist theists hijack planes and crash them into buildings, shoot doctors, and bulldoze people's houses.

Both sides are the same, I guess.
 
2012-07-02 06:38:37 PM  
He's not grumpy because he's an atheist, he's grumpy because he's old. You don't HAVE to eat there & even if you do, you don't HAVE to use the discount. What's the savings there? A dollar, maybe?

Frankly, it really is a genius marketing idea.

"The only requirement we have is men must wear sleeves," she said.

THANK YOU peace be upon her
 
2012-07-02 06:39:57 PM  

Di Atribe: He's not grumpy because he's an atheist, he's grumpy because he's old. You don't HAVE to eat there & even if you do, you don't HAVE to use the discount. What's the savings there? A dollar, maybe?

Frankly, it really is a genius marketing idea.

"The only requirement we have is men must wear sleeves," she said.

THANK YOU peace be upon her



It's not a First Amendment issue, it's a Second Amendment issue!
Her customers have the right to bare arms!
 
2012-07-02 06:41:00 PM  

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FLOBBITYFLEE!!

 
2012-07-02 06:41:27 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: If the restaurant was run by the state I could see there being an issue, but it isn't. It's a privately owned, independent restaurant. Separation of church and state doesn't even factor in.

Having said that, I wonder if this organization has gone after Chick-fil-A yet. Do they even have restaurants in Pennsylvania?


I know of at least one in the Camp Hill/Mechanicsburg area, so yes.
 
2012-07-02 06:41:41 PM  

FloydA: Di Atribe: He's not grumpy because he's an atheist, he's grumpy because he's old. You don't HAVE to eat there & even if you do, you don't HAVE to use the discount. What's the savings there? A dollar, maybe?

Frankly, it really is a genius marketing idea.

"The only requirement we have is men must wear sleeves," she said.

THANK YOU peace be upon her


It's not a First Amendment issue, it's a Second Amendment issue!
Her customers have the right to bare arms!


It's also sexist. Why don't women have to wear sleeves, I'd like to know...
 
2012-07-02 06:41:48 PM  

FloydA: It's not a First Amendment issue, it's a Second Amendment issue!
Her customers have the right to bare arms!


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2012-07-02 06:42:59 PM  
Wow.. insta-green. Must be an important story

*check article*

Nah, just some old guy being a douche
 
2012-07-02 06:44:31 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: If the restaurant was run by the state I could see there being an issue, but it isn't. It's a privately owned, independent restaurant. Separation of church and state doesn't even factor in.

Having said that, I wonder if this organization has gone after Chick-fil-A yet. Do they even have restaurants in Pennsylvania?


Yes.

Last Sunday I passed one of the local Chick-fil-A's on a Sunday. The only people that were working around the restaurant were the landscapers.
 
2012-07-02 06:48:11 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Bathia_Mapes: If the restaurant was run by the state I could see there being an issue, but it isn't. It's a privately owned, independent restaurant. Separation of church and state doesn't even factor in.

Having said that, I wonder if this organization has gone after Chick-fil-A yet. Do they even have restaurants in Pennsylvania?

Yes.

Last Sunday I passed one of the local Chick-fil-A's on a Sunday. The only people that were working around the restaurant were the landscapers.


So they don't work on Sunday cause of Jesus, but Jesús has to work on Sunday.
 
2012-07-02 07:04:10 PM  

SilentStrider: Bathia_Mapes: If the restaurant was run by the state I could see there being an issue, but it isn't. It's a privately owned, independent restaurant. Separation of church and state doesn't even factor in.

Having said that, I wonder if this organization has gone after Chick-fil-A yet. Do they even have restaurants in Pennsylvania?

I know of at least one in the Camp Hill/Mechanicsburg area, so yes.


Hmmm...it would be interesting to see what happens since this particular chain is closed on Sundays because of the chain owner's religious beliefs.

Are they the ones who have Bible verses on their drink cups and food wrappers, or is that In-N-Out? Or do both of them do that?
 
2012-07-02 07:06:48 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: SilentStrider: Bathia_Mapes: If the restaurant was run by the state I could see there being an issue, but it isn't. It's a privately owned, independent restaurant. Separation of church and state doesn't even factor in.

Having said that, I wonder if this organization has gone after Chick-fil-A yet. Do they even have restaurants in Pennsylvania?

I know of at least one in the Camp Hill/Mechanicsburg area, so yes.

Hmmm...it would be interesting to see what happens since this particular chain is closed on Sundays because of the chain owner's religious beliefs.

Are they the ones who have Bible verses on their drink cups and food wrappers, or is that In-N-Out? Or do both of them do that?


I've never actually eaten there, so I don't know.
 
2012-07-02 07:09:26 PM  

Sensei Can You See: FloydA: It's not a First Amendment issue, it's a Second Amendment issue!
Her customers have the right to bare arms!

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When did Star Sapphire start dressing like the bastard child of Galactus and The Scarlet Witch?
 
2012-07-02 07:11:23 PM  

Sgt Otter: Sensei Can You See: FloydA: It's not a First Amendment issue, it's a Second Amendment issue!
Her customers have the right to bare arms!

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When did Star Sapphire start dressing like the bastard child of Galactus and The Scarlet Witch?


From the looks of the art and the lack of grey stripes on Hal Jordan's head, I'd guess that was from somewhere between 1984 and 1989.
 
2012-07-02 07:11:26 PM  

SilentStrider: Bathia_Mapes: SilentStrider: Bathia_Mapes: If the restaurant was run by the state I could see there being an issue, but it isn't. It's a privately owned, independent restaurant. Separation of church and state doesn't even factor in.

Having said that, I wonder if this organization has gone after Chick-fil-A yet. Do they even have restaurants in Pennsylvania?

I know of at least one in the Camp Hill/Mechanicsburg area, so yes.

Hmmm...it would be interesting to see what happens since this particular chain is closed on Sundays because of the chain owner's religious beliefs.

Are they the ones who have Bible verses on their drink cups and food wrappers, or is that In-N-Out? Or do both of them do that?

I've never actually eaten there, so I don't know.


Ah, thanks.
 
2012-07-02 07:20:04 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Never pass up a chance to fan the flames of hatred against atheists

/f*ck you, subby


Atheists have as much right to be hated as Christians have.
 
2012-07-02 07:21:57 PM  

doglover: jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name

Totes this.

There's a reason no atheist has been elected president, and it's not because of the Christian voters.


How can we know what a President believes if we can't even tell where he was born?
 
2012-07-02 07:44:41 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: doglover: jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name

Totes this.

There's a reason no atheist has been elected president, and it's not because of the Christian voters.

How can we know what a President believes if we can't even tell where he was born?


Christian candidate: God says I should win!

Athiest candidate: I say there's no god!

Winning candidate: Lower taxes, higher miniskirts!
 
2012-07-02 07:51:00 PM  

meat0918:
Would they accept a temple or mosque bulletin for the discount?


Wouldn't bother me.


Perhaps she should just have the local churches print coupons in their bulletin. Who can be against a coupon for a restaurant?
 
2012-07-02 07:53:32 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: meat0918:
Would they accept a temple or mosque bulletin for the discount?

Wouldn't bother me.


Perhaps she should just have the local churches print coupons in their bulletin. Who can be against a coupon for a restaurant?


That'd probably get around some things, but it's a bit... money changer-ish, don't you think?

//As if fish frys aren't.
 
2012-07-02 08:00:33 PM  
Good. Who gives a rat's wet asshole if this restaurant offers a discount to people who bring in church bulletins? They're allowed to do that. They could even put up a sign that says "Atheists/Non-Christians not allowed" and you still can't do jack or shiat about it. It's a private business, they can serve or refuse to serve whomever they want. Doesn't make it morally right, but that doesn't make it illegal, either.

Just find a church, grab a bulletin, and get your precious 10% discount if it means that much to you, you whiny little chucklefark.
 
2012-07-02 08:01:38 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I'm not far from there. I might have to walk in with a Playboy centerfold and tell them I'm from the Church of Tits and Ass. See what they say.


It's a promotion to drum up Sunday dinner business. All you would have to do is say you were there because of their promotion and she'd probably give you a discount. The point of the promotion is to get people who regularly go to church to say, "Hey, if we bring this bulletin in, we can get a discount...let's go out to eat tonight at this restaurant."

So at any rate, you'd be a customer who was only there because of the promotion.
 
2012-07-02 08:09:50 PM  

Coco LaFemme: It's a private business, they can serve or refuse to serve whomever they want. Doesn't make it morally right, but that doesn't make it illegal, either.


That's actually not... entirely true...

Link
 
2012-07-02 08:21:50 PM  
So, someone is suing a business for using a quasi coupon?

Get over yourself
 
2012-07-02 08:38:12 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Wow.. insta-green. Must be an important story

*check article*

Nah, just some old guy being a douche


You must be confusing FARK with CNN again.
 
2012-07-02 08:39:49 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Wow.. insta-green. Must be an important story

*check article*

Nah, just some old guy being a douche


By the way, I have a hardbound copy of your encyclopedia. Awesome!
 
2012-07-02 08:43:07 PM  

Shostie: Link


From that link: The punk rockers arrived in unconventional dress, wearing makeup and sporting various hair colors. One was wearing a dress decorated with live rats.

WTF?
 
2012-07-02 09:41:31 PM  
I didn't know Jeff owned a restaurant... Huh.
 
2012-07-02 09:41:44 PM  
Old men like to tell you how they live on a fixed income and deserve every discount there is, the cheap bastards: News at 11
 
2012-07-02 09:41:53 PM  

jj325: exick: jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name

I was ready to say this too, but then I saw that the dude is 80 and decided to chalk it up to old man yells at cloud.

My bad for not reading the article. I'll concur that old man yells at cloud


My thoughts as well. Guy needs a hobby.

/atheist
 
2012-07-02 09:42:37 PM  
Damn atheists are as annoying as vegan. Vegans are annoying because they NEVER SHUT UP about being a vegan. Atheists are annoying because they NEVER SHUT UP about religion.

/my religion is I don't give a shiat.
 
2012-07-02 09:43:12 PM  
Well... Athiests are assholes.
 
2012-07-02 09:43:25 PM  
FTA:"He said the complaint against Prudhomme's isn't as much about the actual discount as it is the bigger picture of what his happening in this country. "I'd just be happy to bring this out in the open and get people to reflect a little bit," Wolff said."

OH. *Rolls eyes* He's one of THOSE assholes.
 
2012-07-02 09:44:38 PM  
FTFA: Prudhomme, who does not attend church due to her work schedule, said she told the group she operates an independent restaurant and suggested non church-goers can pick up bulletins from any church and bring them to the restaurant to cash in on the discount.

I like this lady. I hope she wins.
 
2012-07-02 09:45:28 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Never pass up a chance to fan the flames of hatred against atheists

/f*ck you, subby


Yeah, how dare someone point out something bad about an atheist.

/Put on your big girl panties
 
2012-07-02 09:47:20 PM  
Church Bulletins are free, go to any church, pick one up get and get your damn discount.

This is as stupid as going after "Ladies Night"
 
2012-07-02 09:47:56 PM  

Pockafrusta: Well... Athiests are assholes.


Blanket absolute statements usually are thrown out by assholes...so me thinks this be projection?
 
2012-07-02 09:48:43 PM  
Wow.

Those militant athiests almost make me mad enough to take up religion.
 
2012-07-02 09:48:53 PM  
I don't care what religion you are, if you run a business and you have slow sundays with large churches nearby you get those farking christians in the seats whatever way you have to. You are essentially offering a group discount at that point to a large group with money that you know is already in the area.
 
2012-07-02 09:49:23 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: If the restaurant was run by the state I could see there being an issue, but it isn't. It's a privately owned, independent restaurant. Separation of church and state doesn't even factor in.

Having said that, I wonder if this organization has gone after Chick-fil-A yet. Do they even have restaurants in Pennsylvania?


Sure they do.
They serve crow.
And humble pie.
And THE HOLY BLOOD OF CHRIST ON A CRACKER.
And on Tuesdays, the have a tossed salad at Penn State.
 
2012-07-02 09:51:15 PM  
I am not an Atheist, I am more of a hater of all organized religions yet still believe in a higher being if that makes any sense. When dealing with crap like this you need to ask yourself the following.

1) Are they trying to imposing their beliefs on you or your community?
2) Are they trying to do something unconstitutional?

If the answer to these two questions is no then you need to STFU. There is nothing wrong with promoting ones religion as long as it doesn't infringe on others.
 
2012-07-02 09:51:16 PM  
i like the print out a fake church bulletin option

see if landover baptist has one,
 
2012-07-02 09:51:20 PM  
He said the complaint against Prudhomme's isn't as much about the actual discount as it is the bigger picture of what his happening in this country. "I'd just be happy to bring this out in the open and get people to reflect a little bit," Wolff said.

I believe the Constitution states 'Freedom of Religion'. So, Mr. Wolff, blow it out your arse and mind your own business.
 
2012-07-02 09:52:50 PM  
It's a restaurant, not a government office. F*ck off.

/atheist
 
2012-07-02 09:53:58 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: SilentStrider: Bathia_Mapes: If the restaurant was run by the state I could see there being an issue, but it isn't. It's a privately owned, independent restaurant. Separation of church and state doesn't even factor in.

Having said that, I wonder if this organization has gone after Chick-fil-A yet. Do they even have restaurants in Pennsylvania?

I know of at least one in the Camp Hill/Mechanicsburg area, so yes.

Hmmm...it would be interesting to see what happens since this particular chain is closed on Sundays because of the chain owner's religious beliefs.

Are they the ones who have Bible verses on their drink cups and food wrappers, or is that In-N-Out? Or do both of them do that?


In-N-Out does. I have never been to the other place.
 
2012-07-02 09:54:00 PM  
I've been to Prudhomes, they're pretty good. They'll also hand you a discount for damn near anything.

CSB:

My wife's family is from that area, and when we were living in California, we went back to visit. Went to Prudhomes. I was wearing a California t-shirt, and they asked if I was from there and visiting the area. When I said yes, they gave me a 15% discount because I was from out of town. I guess being from out of town was better than being a Jesus loving man

/Seriously, they're pretty tasty
//big portions
///split the seafood platter and some roast duck between 6 people, and had leftovers.
 
2012-07-02 09:54:07 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Never pass up a chance to fan the flames of hatred against atheists

/f*ck you, subby

Atheists have as much right to be hated as Christians have.


Especially when they're being f*cktards.

/Atheist.
//Should we stop giving discounts to servicemen in uniform too as too pro-war?
///Stop kids eat free promos, too? Encourages overpopulation, donchyaknow.
////How about moms eat free on Mother's Day specials? Too pro...I dunno, Mom?
 
2012-07-02 09:54:15 PM  
FTFA ~ "My interest is in social justice and tolerance..."

/Sounds like a "tolerant" asshole.
 
2012-07-02 09:55:14 PM  

exick: jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name

I was ready to say this too, but then I saw that the dude is 80 and decided to chalk it up to old man yells at cloud.


That's funny. I lol'd, but the reality is there are plenty of people in that age range that still have a sharp mind.
 
2012-07-02 09:56:58 PM  

jj325: exick: jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name

I was ready to say this too, but then I saw that the dude is 80 and decided to chalk it up to old man yells at cloud.

My bad for not reading the article. I'll concur that old man yells at cloud


More like "Old Man Yells at Invisible Sky Bully".
 
2012-07-02 09:58:25 PM  

OOBE Juan Kenobi: exick: jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name

I was ready to say this too, but then I saw that the dude is 80 and decided to chalk it up to old man yells at cloud.

That's funny. I lol'd, but the reality is there are plenty of people in that age range that still have a sharp mind.


Not true at all.
 
2012-07-02 09:58:49 PM  

meat0918: Remember age discrimination is wrong, unless it's a senior discount at stake.
And religious discrimination is wrong, unless it's a church bulletin discount at stake.

Would they accept a temple or mosque bulletin for the discount?


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2012-07-02 09:58:53 PM  
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Hey, I demand you start putting some pictures of famous athiests on this wall!
 
2012-07-02 09:59:24 PM  

jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name


This. If I were him, I'd just Google a copy of a church bulletin, print it, and get the discount.

Next thing you know, someone will file a complaint against In-N-Out Burger for printing Bible verses on wrappers and cups.
 
2012-07-02 10:00:05 PM  
Would it be ok to offer a 10% discount for whites?
 
2012-07-02 10:00:33 PM  
I support any and all efforts against Christianity, whatever those may be. Bravo, 80 year old guy.

/and before you bring it up, I'm equally against all religion, but Christianity is the biggest problem here
//any saying "just let it go" is sort of like saying "just let people spread aids, it's their right"
 
2012-07-02 10:01:19 PM  
It's not about federal constitutional matters. I imagine Pennsylvania has a civil rights act like most other states that addresses discrimination of customers in places of service like hotels and restaurants based on race, religion etc. But I doubt this would be a violation of such act.

/love to see the "atheists are assholes" hypocrites out en force in these threads
 
2012-07-02 10:01:47 PM  
If this is illegal, then so is "ladies night" at your favorite bar or club. Be careful what you wish for.
 
2012-07-02 10:02:39 PM  

Aarontology: You claim to be all about Jesus, get your discounted po'boy then go the hell home.


Well, that's what most Christians do.
 
2012-07-02 10:03:17 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Never pass up a chance to fan the flames of hatred against atheists

/f*ck you, subby


By pointing out that the atheist is being a douchebag?

Seriously?

Oh, anti-religious bigot on Fark night, gotcha!
 
2012-07-02 10:04:08 PM  
It would take 5 minutes in Publisher, or InDesign, or MSPaint to make an atheist bulletin.
 
2012-07-02 10:04:47 PM  

RealAmericanHero: I support any and all efforts against Christianity, whatever those may be. Bravo, 80 year old guy.

/and before you bring it up, I'm equally against all religion, but Christianity is the biggest problem here
//any saying "just let it go" is sort of like saying "just let people spread aids, it's their right"


Your hatred against christianity is clouding your judgement.
 
2012-07-02 10:04:49 PM  
All you can eat pasta if you believe in his noodly goodness. Thank you, Flying Spagetti Monster.
 
2012-07-02 10:05:00 PM  

OgreMagi: Damn atheists are as annoying as vegan. Vegans are annoying because they NEVER SHUT UP about being a vegan. Atheists are annoying because they NEVER SHUT UP about religion.

/my religion is I don't give a shiat.


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I'm sorry, we'll try and remember to skip your house next time.

As for the story... I'll go with "old man yells at cloud" too. Also, as an atheist, that restaurant's policy of giving discounts to churchgoers fills me with an uncontrollable feeling of..."Meh. So what?".
 
2012-07-02 10:05:14 PM  
ftfa: was a devote Catholic

Is that about halfway between being a devoted Catholic and a devout Catholic?
 
2012-07-02 10:05:57 PM  

RealAmericanHero: I support any and all efforts against Christianity, whatever those may be. Bravo, 80 year old guy.

/and before you bring it up, I'm equally against all religion, but Christianity is the biggest problem here
//any saying "just let it go" is sort of like saying "just let people spread aids, it's their right"


The #1 reason "religion" was created was to unite large groups of people under a common set of morals and beliefs. I dare say that without "religion", we'd be in a lot worse state than we are. Religion is the reason things like murder are illegal. Killing other humans wasn't wrong or taboo until some random guy said it was and people ate it up. Religion is mind control and a necessary one at that. People simply are not capable of thinking for themselves, as is proved by religious followers themselves.
 
2012-07-02 10:06:28 PM  
As a Buddhist, I have no problem with this policy. Her business is her business. If the guy wants to be suck a farkstick about it, he can open a competing restaurant across the street that doesn't require religious ceremonies for a discount, or that requires customers bring in used dildos.
 
2012-07-02 10:07:38 PM  

Pockafrusta: Well... Athiests are assholes.


Does that usually happen after you say something like that? Cause if it does then maybe its just you. Might wanna reflect on that.

But this guy? Yeah, he's an asshole. Separation of church and state is a two-way street. Its just as much about keeping government out of religion as it is vice-versa. Private business can take the Lord's name in vain all they want to.
 
2012-07-02 10:08:12 PM  
On the one hand, it is illegal under federal law for business to discriminate on the basis of race, color, religion or national origin. On the other hand, she'll take any bulletin regardless of whether or not he went to church. He could probably print up his own -- she seems like she wants anything to bring in the Sunday brunch/lunch crowd. I wonder why he didn't just bring out his AARP card and ask for a senior discount (which is legal)? I'll bet they'd give him one to keep the peace.
 
2012-07-02 10:09:33 PM  
A friend came over the other day with a sammich from Firehouse Subs and it had this wrapped around said sammich:

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Which even though we're all atheists, we were cool with... though we discussed going in with one of these:

http://www.subgenius.com/pam1/pamphlet_p1.html

But decided we also weren't big enough arseholes to do that. So, eh.

/at least we actually *eat* there...
 
2012-07-02 10:12:14 PM  

wrs1864: Would it be ok to offer a 10% discount for whites?


This restaurant isn't offering a discount based on any personal characteristic. They are offering a discount on whether or not you are holding a piece of paper.

But to answer your question, colleges and government programs already do exactly that - for blacks - it's called affirmative action. And there has been a lot of legal wrangling over the legality of it.
 
2012-07-02 10:12:52 PM  
So, could the owner simply go to area churches and leave coupons in the church hall for x% off on Sunday?

I mean, if he wants the business and wants to support religion, isn't that essentially the equivalent?

I mean, a mandate isn't a mandate if it's a tax, right? I just learned that this week.

Just asking.
 
2012-07-02 10:14:20 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Wolff, who said he's never been to Prudhomme's, recently filed a complaint with the Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission

WTF is a "Human Relations Commission", and how fast can I get my teabagging governor to cut its funding?


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"Oh my, how rude indeed."
 
2012-07-02 10:14:48 PM  
Pennsylvania Human Rights Act

SECTION 5. Unlawful Discriminatory Practices.
It shall be an unlawful discriminatory practice, unless based upon a bona fide occupational qualification, or in the case of a fraternal corporation or association, unless based upon membership in such association or corporation, or except where based upon applicable security regulations established by the United States or the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania: ...

(i) For any person being the owner, lessee, proprietor, manager, superintendent, agent or employee of any public accommodation, resort or amusement to:

(1) Refuse, withhold from, or deny to any person because of his race, color, sex, religious creed, ancestry, national origin or handicap or disability, or to any person due to use of a guide or support animal because of the blindness, deafness or physical handicap of the user or because the user is a handler or trainer of support or guide animals, either directly or indirectly, any of the accommodations, advantages, facilities or privileges of such public accommodation, resort or amusement.

(2) Publish, circulate, issue, display, post or mail, either directly or indirectly, any written or printed communication, notice or advertisement to the effect that any of the accommodations, advantages, facilities and privileges of any such place shall be refused, withheld from or denied to any person on account of race, color, religious creed, sex, ancestry, national origin or handicap or disability, or to any person due to use of a guide or support animal because of the blindness, deafness or physical handicap of the user, or because the user is a handler or trainer of support or guide animals, or that the patronage or custom thereat of any person, belonging to or purporting to be of any particular race, color, religious creed, sex, ancestry, national origin or handicap or disability, or to any person due to use of a guide or support animal because of the blindness, deafness or physical handicap of the user or because the user is a handler or trainer of support or guide animals, is unwelcome, objectionable or not acceptable, desired or solicited.
 
2012-07-02 10:16:16 PM  

Hershey Highway Patrol: So what would happen if you offered a discount for everyone who threw a bible in the trash when they walked in?


You see, folks, this fella gets it. Bravo.
 
2012-07-02 10:16:33 PM  

FloydA: Sensei Can You See: he's another no-life-haver

FriarReb98: the stick up that atheist's butt must have a stick up its butt.


He's 80. Being grumpy for no good reason is his duty.


He's bored and lonely and working out his own issues with childhood religious abuse. That said, he should f*ck off and find another activity.
 
2012-07-02 10:16:46 PM  
And the reason I post this is to remind you dumbasses talking about ladies night that if you insist your own dickfisted hand be given a free drink too, you can demand that.

No, this is not a big deal, but it's not an entirely meritless claim.
 
2012-07-02 10:17:43 PM  

FishyFred: exick: jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name

I was ready to say this too, but then I saw that the dude is 80 and decided to chalk it up to old man yells at cloud.

Yeah, pretty much. Is this restaurant owned by the state? No? It's a private business? Then buzz off.

/atheist
//bets the people who wait tables at this place LOOOOOVVVVEEE this promotion
///and the tips those church groups bring in


I came here to say pretty much this as I am also an atheist. I was, however, a waiter in college and must say that people who came in on Sunday after church for breakfast or ice cream or whatever hardly ever tipped at all, they were roundly hated by people like me (college people working their way through school) and carreer waitresses who went to church. They were even cheaper than high school kids out on a date who hadn't learned to tip yet and by far the most willing to complain customers we had.
 
2012-07-02 10:18:02 PM  

FloydA: Di Atribe: He's not grumpy because he's an atheist, he's grumpy because he's old. You don't HAVE to eat there & even if you do, you don't HAVE to use the discount. What's the savings there? A dollar, maybe?

Frankly, it really is a genius marketing idea.

"The only requirement we have is men must wear sleeves," she said.

THANK YOU peace be upon her


It's not a First Amendment issue, it's a Second Amendment issue!
Her customers have the right to bare arms!


For your information, the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint...

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/staying
/finishing my coffee
 
2012-07-02 10:18:31 PM  

jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name


That's the big difference between non-believers and believers. When an atheist acts like an asshat over his non-belief, other atheists won't hesitate to call them out on it.

doglover: There's a reason no atheist has been elected president, and it's not because of the Christian voters.


What makes you think we haven't had quite a few?
 
2012-07-02 10:19:06 PM  

Salt Lick Steady: Pennsylvania Human Rights Act

SECTION 5. Unlawful Discriminatory Practices.
It shall be an unlawful discriminatory practice, unless based upon a bona fide occupational qualification, or in the case of a fraternal corporation or association, unless based upon membership in such association or corporation, or except where based upon applicable security regulations established by the United States or the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania: ...

(i) For any person being the owner, lessee, proprietor, manager, superintendent, agent or employee of any public accommodation, resort or amusement to:

(1) Refuse, withhold from, or deny to any person because of his race, color, sex, religious creed, ancestry, national origin or handicap or disability, or to any person due to use of a guide or support animal because of the blindness, deafness or physical handicap of the user or because the user is a handler or trainer of support or guide animals, either directly or indirectly, any of the accommodations, advantages, facilities or privileges of such public accommodation, resort or amusement.

(2) Publish, circulate, issue, display, post or mail, either directly or indirectly, any written or printed communication, notice or advertisement to the effect that any of the accommodations, advantages, facilities and privileges of any such place shall be refused, withheld from or denied to any person on account of race, color, religious creed, sex, ancestry, national origin or handicap or disability, or to any person due to use of a guide or support animal because of the blindness, deafness or physical handicap of the user, or because the user is a handler or trainer of support or guide animals, or that the patronage or custom thereat of any person, belonging to or purporting to be of any particular race, color, religious creed, sex, ancestry, national origin or handicap or disability, or to any person due to use of a guide or support animal because of the blindness, deafness or physic ...


What's your point? Remind me again, which religious creed are atheists?
 
2012-07-02 10:19:16 PM  

FloydA: InfamousBLT: There are crazy, stupid extremists on both sides of the fence folks. Plenty of crazy extremist Christians, Jews, Muslims, and atheists. The stupid and the crazy doesn't just fall into one neat little pile, unfortunately.

"Extremist atheists" seem to be cranky 80 year old men who complain about stupid things.

Extremist theists hijack planes and crash them into buildings, shoot doctors, and bulldoze people's houses.

Both sides are the same, I guess.


You might throw some of the last century's dictators in that extreme atheists category.
 
2012-07-02 10:19:29 PM  

Waldo Pepper: does the discount apply only to Christian churches?


That's not the question as the courts have already determined that lack of religion is, for the purposes of religious discrimination laws, a religion. The question is whether someone proclaiming to be an atheist - who would not have a "current bulletin" - would be denied the discount if requested.
 
2012-07-02 10:19:49 PM  

Coco LaFemme: Good. Who gives a rat's wet asshole if this restaurant offers a discount to people who bring in church bulletins? They're allowed to do that. They could even put up a sign that says "Atheists/Non-Christians not allowed" and you still can't do jack or shiat about it. It's a private business, they can serve or refuse to serve whomever they want. Doesn't make it morally right, but that doesn't make it illegal, either.

Just find a church, grab a bulletin, and get your precious 10% discount if it means that much to you, you whiny little chucklefark.


While I agree with you, like farker Sensei said in the second post "Why does everyone feel the need to mind everyone else's business?". Unfortunately, these busybodies have gotten enough politicians and judges to agree with their social engineering programs it just encourages everyone with an agenda and too much free time.
 
2012-07-02 10:19:56 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Never pass up a chance to fan the flames of hatred against atheists

/f*ck you, subby


I'm an atheist and think the guy's being a dick. Of course, outside of a few jokes only brought up if somebody else brings up religion, I keep quiet about it.

Government endorsing religion = forbidden. Private person/company doing so, but not discriminating during hiring process and such = meh.
 
2012-07-02 10:20:57 PM  

AKTurkey: What's your point? Remind me again, which religious creed are atheists?


See my post above. The federal courts have long determined that lack of a religious creed IS a creed for the purpose of religious discrimination laws.
 
2012-07-02 10:23:01 PM  

safeforwork: A friend came over the other day with a sammich from Firehouse Subs and it had this wrapped around said sammich:

[i.imgur.com image 640x480]


Why only Sunday?

Gee, I wonder...
 
2012-07-02 10:23:40 PM  

HotWingAgenda: used dildos


I think the health department would have an issue with that. :-D
 
2012-07-02 10:25:39 PM  

jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name


1,000x times this.

There's plenty of bullshiat that we atheists have to put up with. Legitimate stuff -- people evangelizing to our children or trying to ban teaching evolution or making unpaid attendance at a work-organized Bible study mandatory. Get pissed about that shiat. Not a couple bucks of at a restaurant YOU DON'T EVEN farkING GO TO.
 
2012-07-02 10:26:14 PM  
Marcus Aurelius: I'm not far from there. I might have to walk in with a Playboy centerfold and tell them I'm from the Church of Tits and Ass. See what they say.


We got us an internet sex god atheist

p://www.fark.com/comments/7193032/77827590#c77827590" target="_blank">MaudlinMutantMollusk: Never pass up a chance to fan the flames of hatred against atheists

/f*ck you, subby


We also got us a foul mouthed internet tough atheist.


How many more subspecies can YOU spot in this thread?
 
2012-07-02 10:26:41 PM  

meat0918: Remember age discrimination is wrong, unless it's a senior discount at stake.
And religious discrimination is wrong, unless it's a church bulletin discount at stake.

Would they accept a temple or mosque bulletin for the discount?


Yes, I'm sure they would. I'm also sure that if you took the 30 seconds to print out a page from some humanist website, they'd that that, too.
 
2012-07-02 10:26:56 PM  
But, he said the restaurant's discount for church-goers annoyed him. "My interest is in social justice and tolerance, and I get a little annoyed at all the religiosity," he said.

He is interested in niether tolerance or justice. He's a bully trying to force people to comply to his pet peeves. He's only annoyed because they won't do as he wants. He's a wannabe petty tyrant.

He said he became an atheist about 15 years ago when he became dismayed at the religious right.

I call BS. He's just saying that as a defense and to score poltical points. He's more likely been a angry atheist his entire adult life.
 
2012-07-02 10:27:08 PM  

Waldo Pepper: Salt Lick Steady: Waldo Pepper: does the discount apply only to Christian churches?

That's not the question as the courts have already determined that lack of religion is, for the purposes of religious discrimination laws, a religion. The question is whether someone proclaiming to be an atheist - who would not have a "current bulletin" - would be denied the discount if requested.

so all churches are religious?

Link


If you're filing a discrimination suit, you'll generally need to prove an actual incidence of discrimination PLUS the court will make you prove that your religious belief is sincerely held. That can sometimes be a low bar to get over, but there's the short and skinny of it.

And no, again, not all creeds are religious, because lack of religion is indeed a creed.
 
2012-07-02 10:28:07 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: meat0918: FishyFred: exick: jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name

I was ready to say this too, but then I saw that the dude is 80 and decided to chalk it up to old man yells at cloud.

Yeah, pretty much. Is this restaurant owned by the state? No? It's a private business? Then buzz off.

/atheist
//bets the people who wait tables at this place LOOOOOVVVVEEE this promotion
///and the tips those church groups bring in

Obligatory "Private business should be allowed to give white person discount then" response.

To be fair, you would have to leave your whiteness at the restaurant, just like your church service program.


Combo restaurant / tanning salon?
 
2012-07-02 10:29:29 PM  

FloydA: InfamousBLT: There are crazy, stupid extremists on both sides of the fence folks. Plenty of crazy extremist Christians, Jews, Muslims, and atheists. The stupid and the crazy doesn't just fall into one neat little pile, unfortunately.

"Extremist atheists" seem to be cranky 80 year old men who complain about stupid things.

Extremist theists hijack planes and crash them into buildings, shoot doctors, and bulldoze people's houses.

Both sides are the same, I guess.


Especially the mass genocide types .
 
2012-07-02 10:29:38 PM  

Salt Lick Steady: AKTurkey: What's your point? Remind me again, which religious creed are atheists?

See my post above. The federal courts have long determined that lack of a religious creed IS a creed for the purpose of religious discrimination laws.


You cite a PA statute and then claim federal courts have determined lack of a religious creed IS a creed. Hey, that's awesome, but state courts own the interpretation of state statutes. Now I'm not saying that the federal constitution doesn't include a protection which trumps any state law or that PA courts haven't interpreted lack of religious creed to be a creed (who knows, west law it if you want), but your post makes no sense.
 
2012-07-02 10:30:18 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Apparently they'll let anybody file a complaint with the PHRC. Whoever the hell they are and for all the good it does.

PA law, in general, prohibits discrimination based on race, color, age (40 and over), sex, ancestry, national origin, religion, familial status (only in housing), disability and the use, handling or training of guide or support animals for disability.


Why is 40 the magic age and what is covered? Lots of fail there, Lou.
 
2012-07-02 10:30:47 PM  

JonnyG: People simply are not capable of thinking for themselves


I'm surprised more people here haven't gone after you for this. You are right, and the proof is the existence of the GOP in its current state, and also resistance to evolution and climate responsibility.
 
2012-07-02 10:32:28 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Never pass up a chance to fan the flames of hatred against atheists

/f*ck you, subby


The Butthurt. You'll get over it.
 
2012-07-02 10:32:43 PM  

Salt Lick Steady: That's not the question as the courts have already determined that lack of religion is, for the purposes of religious discrimination laws, a religion


Atheism is a religion. The courts say so. I'm glad you finally proved it*.

*once you provide a citation.
 
2012-07-02 10:32:44 PM  

AKTurkey: Salt Lick Steady: AKTurkey: What's your point? Remind me again, which religious creed are atheists?

See my post above. The federal courts have long determined that lack of a religious creed IS a creed for the purpose of religious discrimination laws.

You cite a PA statute and then claim federal courts have determined lack of a religious creed IS a creed. Hey, that's awesome, but state courts own the interpretation of state statutes. Now I'm not saying that the federal constitution doesn't include a protection which trumps any state law or that PA courts haven't interpreted lack of religious creed to be a creed (who knows, west law it if you want), but your post makes no sense.


The 14th amendment - equal protection - applies to the states, genius.
 
2012-07-02 10:33:15 PM  
He said the complaint against Prudhomme's isn't as much about the actual discount as it is the bigger picture of what his happening in this country. "I'd just be happy to bring this out in the open and get people to reflect a little bit," Wolff said.

You poor persecuted thing, you.
 
2012-07-02 10:35:39 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Wolff, who said he's never been to Prudhomme's, recently filed a complaint with the Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission

WTF is a "Human Relations Commission"...


A government organization dedicated to giving the relatives/close friends/fark buddies of certain distinguished government officials nice jobs.
 
2012-07-02 10:37:09 PM  

OgreMagi: Damn atheists are as annoying as vegan. Vegans are annoying because they NEVER SHUT UP about being a vegan. Atheists are annoying because they NEVER SHUT UP about religion.

/my religion is I don't give a shiat.


Yet you, being someone who doesn't feel the need to discuss it... Oh, wait. You came here and DIDN'T SHUT UP about it.
 
2012-07-02 10:38:39 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: FloydA: Marcus Aurelius:
I'm not far from there. I might have to walk in with a Playboy centerfold and tell them I'm from the Church of Tits and Ass. See what they say.

Interesting idea. Better yet, find some of the Subgeniuses or Discordians at Allbright or Harrisburg Area Comm. Coll. (there are always some) and whip up some Bob or Eris pamphlets. See if those get you a discount, or if it's only "the right" religions.

Hah. Walk in dressed as an Arab holding a piece of papyrus covered in Arabic writing, and start ALLAH HU AKBARing. THAT would be fun.


The belt of road flares disguised as dynamite. Don't forget that.
 
2012-07-02 10:39:48 PM  

s2s2s2: Salt Lick Steady: That's not the question as the courts have already determined that lack of religion is, for the purposes of religious discrimination laws, a religion

Atheism is a religion. The courts say so. I'm glad you finally proved it*.

*once you provide a citation.


Start with Wallace v Jaffree

Knock yourself out
 
2012-07-02 10:40:13 PM  
Another example of some people not being happy unless they have something to biatch about.
 
2012-07-02 10:40:15 PM  

safeforwork: A friend came over the other day with a sammich from Firehouse Subs and it had this wrapped around said sammich:

[i.imgur.com image 640x480]

Which even though we're all atheists, we were cool with... though we discussed going in with one of these:

http://www.subgenius.com/pam1/pamphlet_p1.html

But decided we also weren't big enough arseholes to do that. So, eh.

/at least we actually *eat* there...


Dude. My Little Pony? Really?
 
2012-07-02 10:41:01 PM  

Salt Lick Steady: s2s2s2: Salt Lick Steady: That's not the question as the courts have already determined that lack of religion is, for the purposes of religious discrimination laws, a religion

Atheism is a religion. The courts say so. I'm glad you finally proved it*.

*once you provide a citation.

Start with Wallace v Jaffree

Knock yourself out


I wish you guys would make up your mind.
 
2012-07-02 10:41:54 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Bathia_Mapes: If the restaurant was run by the state I could see there being an issue, but it isn't. It's a privately owned, independent restaurant. Separation of church and state doesn't even factor in.

Having said that, I wonder if this organization has gone after Chick-fil-A yet. Do they even have restaurants in Pennsylvania?

Yes.

Last Sunday I passed one of the local Chick-fil-A's on a Sunday. The only people that were working around the restaurant were the landscapers.


All Chick-fil-A's are closed on Sunday's, per top management order.

They STILL outperform McDonalds on samestore weekly stats.
 
2012-07-02 10:42:09 PM  
One of the drawbacks of evolution is the slow rate of change. I wish I could say that in my lifetime humans will evolve to the point that sky wizard worship is eradicated.

Homosexual marriage hate on a tax-free dime. Don't kill babies, or we'll kill doctors. Evolution denial is the topper. I wish these days would pass.

However, if, as someone suggested above, the discount was for people throwing out bibles on the way in the door, or better yet, some charred gospel pages for a free appetizer, the religious would protest the restaurant into oblivion.

Fair and equal is all atheists want.
 
2012-07-02 10:42:41 PM  
10 % off doesn't sound particularly Christian to me
 
2012-07-02 10:43:48 PM  
As a Godless Atheist, I decry this stupidity.

Freedom from Religion obviously doesn't trump Freedom of Religion. Shut up and leave people to themselves.
 
2012-07-02 10:43:58 PM  

Salt Lick Steady: AKTurkey: Salt Lick Steady: AKTurkey: What's your point? Remind me again, which religious creed are atheists?

See my post above. The federal courts have long determined that lack of a religious creed IS a creed for the purpose of religious discrimination laws.

You cite a PA statute and then claim federal courts have determined lack of a religious creed IS a creed. Hey, that's awesome, but state courts own the interpretation of state statutes. Now I'm not saying that the federal constitution doesn't include a protection which trumps any state law or that PA courts haven't interpreted lack of religious creed to be a creed (who knows, west law it if you want), but your post makes no sense.

The 14th amendment - equal protection - applies to the states, genius.


You are correct that the 14th amendment applies equal protection to the states (it also incorporates the first amendment). It is also true that if there is an equal protection violation, any state law that allows the violation is unconstitutional unless it passes strict scrutiny. However, this still doesn't answer why you felt the need to post a PA statute which has nothing to do with the equal protection clause.
 
2012-07-02 10:44:50 PM  

davynelson: 10 % off doesn't sound particularly Christian to me


The Jews down the street were only giving 3%.

/just sayin
 
2012-07-02 10:44:53 PM  
Go piss in your own Cheerios, guy.

/atheist
//picks his battles
 
2012-07-02 10:47:23 PM  

MrCrazyInsane: One of the drawbacks of evolution is the slow rate of change. I wish I could say that in my lifetime humans will evolve to the point that sky wizard worship is eradicated.

Homosexual marriage hate on a tax-free dime. Don't kill babies, or we'll kill doctors. Evolution denial is the topper. I wish these days would pass.

However, if, as someone suggested above, the discount was for people throwing out bibles on the way in the door, or better yet, some charred gospel pages for a free appetizer, the religious would protest the restaurant into oblivion.

Fair and equal is all atheists want.


You're free to open your own restaurant and do it.
 
2012-07-02 10:48:08 PM  
My fellow atheists, don't be assholes. Unless they are begging for it.
 
2012-07-02 10:48:27 PM  
"We're the most unprejudiced of all. I don't care if you are purple or polka dot. The only requirement we have is men must wear sleeves," she said.

Freedom from Sleeves Foundation weighed in yet?
 
2012-07-02 10:50:09 PM  
I'm the most militant atheistic atheist that ever atheisted, and I still don't get what the basis would be for this suit.

There is no God. Of that I'm absolutely certain (as certain as I am that there is no Santa Claus). You best not be violating my 1st amendment rights by teaching your religion in my taxpayer funded schools, or I be exercising my 2nd amendment rights on you.

But still, don't see a problem with this.
 
2012-07-02 10:50:19 PM  

Salt Lick Steady: AKTurkey: What's your point? Remind me again, which religious creed are atheists?

See my post above. The federal courts have long determined that lack of a religious creed IS a creed for the purpose of religious discrimination laws.


Irrelevant. No one is required to believe in God/the church/whatever to get this discount, only to carry a piece of paper. No one is turned away for the nature of their beliefs, or lack thereof, only for their lack of a piece of paper. The woman even says outright that atheists are welcome to grab a program from any church and get the discount, too. She doesn't give a rat's ass about someone's beliefs, she's just trying to get people into her restaurant.

If that's discrimination, so is passing on a discount only to people who clipped coupons from the local paper.
 
2012-07-02 10:50:19 PM  
Okay, that's it. I'm no longer calling myself an atheist. I'm just a guy. A guy who happens not to believe in all that nonsense, and by "all that nonsense", I'm throwing in atheism as well.

//Fark you, Atheism!
 
2012-07-02 10:50:34 PM  

AKTurkey: Salt Lick Steady: AKTurkey: Salt Lick Steady: AKTurkey: What's your point? Remind me again, which religious creed are atheists?

See my post above. The federal courts have long determined that lack of a religious creed IS a creed for the purpose of religious discrimination laws.

You cite a PA statute and then claim federal courts have determined lack of a religious creed IS a creed. Hey, that's awesome, but state courts own the interpretation of state statutes. Now I'm not saying that the federal constitution doesn't include a protection which trumps any state law or that PA courts haven't interpreted lack of religious creed to be a creed (who knows, west law it if you want), but your post makes no sense.

The 14th amendment - equal protection - applies to the states, genius.

You are correct that the 14th amendment applies equal protection to the states (it also incorporates the first amendment). It is also true that if there is an equal protection violation, any state law that allows the violation is unconstitutional unless it passes strict scrutiny. However, this still doesn't answer why you felt the need to post a PA statute which has nothing to do with the equal protection clause.


To make it easier for you, just read Wallace v Jaffree mentioned above. In sum, it invalidated a state law allowing for a "moment of silence or prayer" in part based on the principle that lack of religious belief constituted a creed that could be violated by such a state law. In this sense, the matter can be construed as both a first and a fourteenth amendment issue; states cannot pass laws that respect religious beliefs over lack of religious beliefs.
 
2012-07-02 10:50:43 PM  

OOBE Juan Kenobi: exick: jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name

I was ready to say this too, but then I saw that the dude is 80 and decided to chalk it up to old man yells at cloud.

That's funny. I lol'd, but the reality is there are plenty of people in that age range that still have a sharp mind.


Not this guy, if that were the case, then he would know that Prudhomme's is not the government.
 
2012-07-02 10:52:01 PM  
If you biatch and cry about your religious beliefs, and demand other people satisfy your desires, you are a religion.
Join the band, Godless assholes.
 
2012-07-02 10:52:25 PM  

AbbeySomeone: FloydA: Sensei Can You See: he's another no-life-haver

FriarReb98: the stick up that atheist's butt must have a stick up its butt.


He's 80. Being grumpy for no good reason is his duty.

He's bored and lonely and working out his own issues with childhood religious abuse. That said, he should f*ck off and find another activity.


I agree. This is a stupid fight that was started by a senile old guy. Even though I agree with him that "god" is made up and religion is a bunch of nonsensical superstition, I agree with you that he should probably just sit the hell down and go back to watching Matlock. The restaurant has every right to give discounts to the superstitious people if they want to; it's their business. Atheists can just have all you can eat brunch someplace else if it really bothers them.

andyfromfl:

You might throw some of the last century's dictators in that extreme atheists category.



RY28:

Especially the mass genocide types .



Name a dictator who had people killed because they were not atheists.

Stalin had people killed because they were not Stalinists, although the Russian Orthodox church persisted through the Stalin era, so you can't use him as an example.

Mao had people killed because they were not Maoists, but Confucianism, Buddhism, Taoism, and many "folk" religions persisted in China during and after Mao's reign, so he's also not an example.

You might be able to make an argument that Pol Pot tried to eliminate religion in Kampuchea, although given the fact that the Khmer Rouge used religion as one of their primary categories for classifying people, it would be a tough argument to make.

So, given the fact that you can't use Stalin or Mao, and the use of Pol Pot is at best, tenuous, your argument that "atheism is the cause of genocide" is on rather shaky footings.

Unless you have some other examples that you would like to present of people who killed others because they were not atheists.

I'd be happy to hear of them, if you have examples.
 
2012-07-02 10:54:51 PM  

shoegaze99: Irrelevant. No one is required to believe in God/the church/whatever to get this discount, only to carry a piece of paper. No one is turned away for the nature of their beliefs, or lack thereof, only for their lack of a piece of paper. The woman even says outright that atheists are welcome to grab a program from any church and get the discount, too. She doesn't give a rat's ass about someone's beliefs, she's just trying to get people into her restaurant.

If that's discrimination, so is passing on a discount only to people who clipped coupons from the local paper.


Did you even read the statutes I posted? No, being required to have a current church bulletin even though you don't attend such a church is not valid (and neither is advertising as such). An atheist professing a sincerely held belief in atheism should not be required to steal or copy a religious bulletin, to essentially pretend to be religious, in order to obtain the discount.

And no, it's not of the likes of someone not clipping a coupon; coupons are not religious in nature.
 
2012-07-02 10:55:20 PM  

jayphat:

Dude. My Little Pony? Really?


Yes. Powered by nvidia, intel core2 duo, intel core i5, AMD X2, and ponies. :D

(Windows 7 is also (C)2010 Hasbro...)
 
2012-07-02 10:55:43 PM  

muck4doo: MrCrazyInsane: One of the drawbacks of evolution is the slow rate of change. I wish I could say that in my lifetime humans will evolve to the point that sky wizard worship is eradicated.

Homosexual marriage hate on a tax-free dime. Don't kill babies, or we'll kill doctors. Evolution denial is the topper. I wish these days would pass.

However, if, as someone suggested above, the discount was for people throwing out bibles on the way in the door, or better yet, some charred gospel pages for a free appetizer, the religious would protest the restaurant into oblivion.

Fair and equal is all atheists want.

You're free to open your own restaurant and do it.


Not the point. Not at all.

I am well aware of what I am free to do. The point is that these terrorists** that live among us (tax free, no less) feel that strength in numbers excuses their mass stupidity. Theism in all forms needs to be abolished if there is any hope for mankind to advance.

I could not give less of a fark about 10 cents off their shiatty salad bar. It's the fact that the religious do and say what they want because the opposing voice is taboo.

**far from a troll attempt; define the word and prove me wrong.
 
2012-07-02 10:56:52 PM  

Salt Lick Steady: The question is whether someone proclaiming to be an atheist - who would not have a "current bulletin" - would be denied the discount if requested.


It's not much of a question. Current bulletin, current coupon, same damn thing. You're not required to be a church-going Christian to get the discount, nor are you required to believe in God. You're only required to turn in the slip of paper that qualifies you for the discount -- just like a coupon. No coupon, no discount.

FTA:

Prudhomme, who does not attend church due to her work schedule, said she told the group she operates an independent restaurant and suggested non church-goers can pick up bulletins from any church and bring them to the restaurant to cash in on the discount.

You'd have to s t r e t c h pretty damn far to call this discrimination. If it is, so are coupons, not to mention dozens of other promotions like this.
 
2012-07-02 10:56:54 PM  
Meh... as I see it, the problem is not that he's an atheist, but an asshole...
 
2012-07-02 10:56:55 PM  
Excellent differential pricing strategy be the owner of the diner!

It's very similar to the "Jack Benny Platter" deal. They don't offer that discount because they respect and admire senior citizens, they do it because, statistically, the elderly are more price sensitive - so they can pull them in with a discount, but still charge the younger people the higher price.

I feel bad for their wait staff, though. They are getting stiffed regularly on these days, you can be sure.
 
2012-07-02 10:56:59 PM  

AsprinBurn: Okay, that's it. I'm no longer calling myself an atheist. I'm just a guy. A guy who happens not to believe in all that nonsense, and by "all that nonsense", I'm throwing in atheism as well.

//Fark you, Atheism!


OK, Charles Manson was a white guy. I am officially declaring that I'm no longer white because that one guy was an asshole.

//Fark you, white people!

Oh wait, that sounds kind of stupid, doesn't it? Never mind.
 
2012-07-02 10:59:04 PM  

Salt Lick Steady: Did you even read the statutes I posted? No, being required to have a current church bulletin even though you don't attend such a church is not valid (and neither is advertising as such). An atheist professing a sincerely held belief in atheism should not be required to steal or copy a religious bulletin, to essentially pretend to be religious, in order to obtain the discount.

And no, it's not of the likes of someone not clipping a coupon; coupons are not religious in nature.


Hmm, you seem to be a fundamentalist when it comes to "statutes."

Perhaps they are your own little book of scripture and we'll be damned if anything is going to shake you from your convictions.

Maybe you should get a group together on Sunday mornings and start publishing your own newsletter, a "bulletin" perhaps?
 
2012-07-02 10:59:18 PM  

Salt Lick Steady: AKTurkey: Salt Lick Steady: AKTurkey: Salt Lick Steady: AKTurkey: What's your point? Remind me again, which religious creed are atheists?

See my post above. The federal courts have long determined that lack of a religious creed IS a creed for the purpose of religious discrimination laws.

You cite a PA statute and then claim federal courts have determined lack of a religious creed IS a creed. Hey, that's awesome, but state courts own the interpretation of state statutes. Now I'm not saying that the federal constitution doesn't include a protection which trumps any state law or that PA courts haven't interpreted lack of religious creed to be a creed (who knows, west law it if you want), but your post makes no sense.

The 14th amendment - equal protection - applies to the states, genius.

You are correct that the 14th amendment applies equal protection to the states (it also incorporates the first amendment). It is also true that if there is an equal protection violation, any state law that allows the violation is unconstitutional unless it passes strict scrutiny. However, this still doesn't answer why you felt the need to post a PA statute which has nothing to do with the equal protection clause.

To make it easier for you, just read Wallace v Jaffree mentioned above. In sum, it invalidated a state law allowing for a "moment of silence or prayer" in part based on the principle that lack of religious belief constituted a creed that could be violated by such a state law. In this sense, the matter can be construed as both a first and a fourteenth amendment issue; states cannot pass laws that respect religious beliefs over lack of religious beliefs.


Still not seeing why you listed the state law and I have read Wallace v Jaffree in Con Law my first year at Michigan Law.
 
2012-07-02 10:59:27 PM  
What a farking douchebag. As an Atheist I fully support this PRIVATE BUSINESS on this one. Sure, their religious discount program would make me want to go someplace else, but that is what free enterprise is about. They are free to give discounts and I am free to go someplace else if I do not like that.

As for the ash-hole's complaint, he will lose in a heartbeat. They are not discriminating against anyone. Besides, most churches that I know have little bins just inside with the weekly programs. If the dude is so hung up on getting 10% off then he can park his car outside a church, run inside, grab a brochure, and go get his farking discount. And if not, someone please buy him some padded pants, because he is suffering from some serious butt hurt.
 
2012-07-02 10:59:31 PM  

Hershey Highway Patrol: So what would happen if you offered a discount for everyone who threw a bible in the trash when they walked in?


the Phelps klan picketing outside your establishment with their signs?
 
2012-07-02 10:59:43 PM  

FloydA: AbbeySomeone: FloydA: Sensei Can You See: he's another no-life-haver

FriarReb98: the stick up that atheist's butt must have a stick up its butt.


He's 80. Being grumpy for no good reason is his duty.

He's bored and lonely and working out his own issues with childhood religious abuse. That said, he should f*ck off and find another activity.

I agree. This is a stupid fight that was started by a senile old guy. Even though I agree with him that "god" is made up and religion is a bunch of nonsensical superstition, I agree with you that he should probably just sit the hell down and go back to watching Matlock. The restaurant has every right to give discounts to the superstitious people if they want to; it's their business. Atheists can just have all you can eat brunch someplace else if it really bothers them.

andyfromfl:

You might throw some of the last century's dictators in that extreme atheists category.


RY28:

Especially the mass genocide types .


Name a dictator who had people killed because they were not atheists.

Stalin had people killed because they were not Stalinists, although the Russian Orthodox church persisted through the Stalin era, so you can't use him as an example.

Mao had people killed because they were not Maoists, but Confucianism, Buddhism, Taoism, and many "folk" religions persisted in China during and after Mao's reign, so he's also not an example.

You might be able to make an argument that Pol Pot tried to eliminate religion in Kampuchea, although given the fact that the Khmer Rouge used religion as one of their primary categories for classifying people, it would be a tough argument to make.

So, given the fact that you can't use Stalin or Mao, and the use of Pol Pot is at best, tenuous, your argument that "atheism is the cause of genocide" is on rather shaky footings.

Unless you have some other examples that you would like to present of people who killed others because they were not atheists.

I'd be happy to hear of them ...


Yeah, you keep telling yourself that. "Just because we ask you to put your faith in the state and not God and kill you if oppose, guy".

Link


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism

I thought you Atheists were supposed to be much smarter than everyone else? Stop pretending your shiat has never stank.
 
2012-07-02 11:00:03 PM  

Salt Lick Steady: An atheist professing a sincerely held belief in atheism should not be required to steal or copy a religious bulletin, to essentially pretend to be religious, in order to obtain the discount.


You don't have to steal anything. They're there for the public to take. And you don't have to pretend anything, either. You're not being quizzed on your beliefs. You're turning in a freely available slip of paper. No more, no less.

And no, it's not of the likes of someone not clipping a coupon; coupons are not religious in nature.

Neither is turning in a slip of paper, if the paper has no meaning to you.
 
2012-07-02 11:00:37 PM  
Atheist are going to hell.
 
2012-07-02 11:01:01 PM  

MrCrazyInsane: strength in numbers excuses their mass stupidity


So now we're talking about getting a discount for wearing a Colt's jersey?
 
2012-07-02 11:01:22 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Never pass up a chance to fan the flames of hatred against atheists

/f*ck you, subby


Breaking: Christians find, complain about one atheist who's approximately as bigoted as many of them are. News at 10!!
 
2012-07-02 11:01:37 PM  

shoegaze99: You'd have to s t r e t c h pretty damn far to call this discrimination. If it is, so are coupons, not to mention dozens of other promotions like this.


No. Again, coupons are NOT religious in nature. It's not a matter of having a slip of paper; it's a matter of having a religious slip of paper.

And no, this likely wouldn't be a valid discrimination complaint if it can be shown that failure to have the piece of paper does not disqualify you from having the discount and you can prove to the court a sincerely held belief in atheism.
 
2012-07-02 11:01:59 PM  
they're a private business, they should be able to do whatever the hell they want. this guy is a tard.


he's never even been to the restaurant?
tard x2
 
2012-07-02 11:02:58 PM  

doctor wu: Atheist are going to hell.


To hear them biatch you'd think theu already were in hell.
 
2012-07-02 11:03:03 PM  

MrCrazyInsane: Theism in all forms needs to be abolished if there is any hope for mankind to advance.


Perhaps we can assemble everyone who doesn't agree with you in one place?

Concentrate them, you know? In one place? We can call it a Camp of Concentration!

We will call you the Father... no too religious, what is that in German? That might work...
 
2012-07-02 11:03:19 PM  

Godscrack: Good. Hope she wins.


really? why on earth would you hope that?
 
2012-07-02 11:03:28 PM  

MrCrazyInsane: Theism in all forms needs to be abolished if there is any hope for mankind to advance.


I rest my case.
 
2012-07-02 11:03:54 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: FloydA: Marcus Aurelius:
I'm not far from there. I might have to walk in with a Playboy centerfold and tell them I'm from the Church of Tits and Ass. See what they say.

Interesting idea. Better yet, find some of the Subgeniuses or Discordians at Allbright or Harrisburg Area Comm. Coll. (there are always some) and whip up some Bob or Eris pamphlets. See if those get you a discount, or if it's only "the right" religions.

Hah. Walk in dressed as an Arab holding a piece of papyrus covered in Arabic writing, and start ALLAH HU AKBARing. THAT would be fun.


I would love to go in with a program from a synagogue and order some crawfish!
 
2012-07-02 11:04:58 PM  

doctor wu: Atheist are going to hell.


and letrole says atheism is a religion. What's your point?
 
2012-07-02 11:05:37 PM  

Salt Lick Steady: And no, this likely wouldn't be a valid discrimination complaint if it can be shown that failure to have the piece of paper does not disqualify you from having the discount and you can prove to the court a sincerely held belief in atheism.


Jesus bro, you need to borrow a couple of bucks or something?
 
2012-07-02 11:05:44 PM  

scottydoesntknow: BunkyBrewman: Bathia_Mapes: If the restaurant was run by the state I could see there being an issue, but it isn't. It's a privately owned, independent restaurant. Separation of church and state doesn't even factor in.

Having said that, I wonder if this organization has gone after Chick-fil-A yet. Do they even have restaurants in Pennsylvania?

Yes.

Last Sunday I passed one of the local Chick-fil-A's on a Sunday. The only people that were working around the restaurant were the landscapers.

So they don't work on Sunday cause of Jesus, but Jesús has to work on Sunday.


Jesus is Jewish. He gets Saturday off.
 
2012-07-02 11:06:19 PM  
There is actually settled case law on this base on the Civil Right Act of 1964.

If he sues, if he has standing, he'll win... eventually.
 
2012-07-02 11:06:28 PM  

AKTurkey: Still not seeing why you listed the state law and I have read Wallace v Jaffree in Con Law my first year at Michigan Law.


Wow. I'd hate to have you as a lawyer. Because this is a state law claim under the Pennsylvania human rights act, and states cannot define religious creed by excluding lack of religious creed due to federal law.

Get it now?
 
2012-07-02 11:06:30 PM  
Why is the restaurant trying to accumulate ammunition?
 
2012-07-02 11:07:46 PM  
Atheists need to quit whining about how private companies deal with religion. It's their own damned right to cater to whatever bullshiat they want.

Save the battles for when the government starts forcing religion down peoples throats. Half of the elected officials in this country think "religious freedom" means "worship jesus or die, terrorist" and that's a much bigger threat than some farking restaurant actually exercising freedom of religion properly.
 
2012-07-02 11:08:06 PM  

halfof33: MrCrazyInsane: Theism in all forms needs to be abolished if there is any hope for mankind to advance.

Perhaps we can assemble everyone who doesn't agree with you in one place?

Concentrate them, you know? In one place? We can call it a Camp of Concentration!

We will call you the Father... no too religious, what is that in German? That might work...


Ah yes, that card.

Yet, without religion, how might that whole thing have gone?

Please. History is riddled with religious conflict. Time to move on as a species.
 
2012-07-02 11:08:10 PM  

DoctorCal: Why is the restaurant trying to accumulate ammunition?


They actually burn them during the Black Masses they hold on the night of the full moon.
 
2012-07-02 11:08:13 PM  

Coco LaFemme: Good. Who gives a rat's wet asshole if this restaurant offers a discount to people who bring in church bulletins? They're allowed to do that. They could even put up a sign that says "Atheists/Non-Christians not allowed" and you still can't do jack or shiat about it. It's a private business, they can serve or refuse to serve whomever they want. Doesn't make it morally right, but that doesn't make it illegal, either.

Just find a church, grab a bulletin, and get your precious 10% discount if it means that much to you, you whiny little chucklefark.


Actually, private businesses that are open to the public are not allowed to discriminate based on age, gender, sex, physical handicap, or religion. That is actually a Federal Law. And, being an atheist is protected under the term "religion." So, they could not legally put up a sign saying "Atheists/Non-Christians not allowed." And while they are free to refuse service to any customer, they cannot do so because of the person's age, gender, sex, physical handicap, or religion. They can, however, refuse service for just about any other reason.
 
2012-07-02 11:08:18 PM  

Pathman: they're a private business, they should be able to do whatever the hell they want.2


So, a lunch counter with "WHITE ONLY" is just fine in your universe?
 
2012-07-02 11:08:18 PM  

Mock26: What a farking douchebag. As an Atheist I fully support this PRIVATE BUSINESS on this one. Sure, their religious discount program would make me want to go someplace else, but that is what free enterprise is about. They are free to give discounts and I am free to go someplace else if I do not like that.

As for the ash-hole's complaint, he will lose in a heartbeat. They are not discriminating against anyone. Besides, most churches that I know have little bins just inside with the weekly programs. If the dude is so hung up on getting 10% off then he can park his car outside a church, run inside, grab a brochure, and go get his farking discount. And if not, someone please buy him some padded pants, because he is suffering from some serious butt hurt.


i agree with most of this however personally i dont understand why a private business can't discriminate.

i for one wouldn't go eat at a "racist" restaurant. you are free to. i like having that choice. that's what freedom is.

freedom doesn't mean it's the government's job, role or even right to make you a better person.
 
2012-07-02 11:08:39 PM  

JonnyG: RealAmericanHero: I support any and all efforts against Christianity, whatever those may be. Bravo, 80 year old guy.

/and before you bring it up, I'm equally against all religion, but Christianity is the biggest problem here
//any saying "just let it go" is sort of like saying "just let people spread aids, it's their right"

The #1 reason "religion" was created was to unite large groups of people under a common set of morals and beliefs. I dare say that without "religion", we'd be in a lot worse state than we are. Religion is the reason things like murder are illegal. Killing other humans wasn't wrong or taboo until some random guy said it was and people ate it up. Religion is mind control and a necessary one at that. People simply are not capable of thinking for themselves, as is proved by religious followers themselves.


2/10...you did not address God in the Constitution. For shame it had promise.
 
2012-07-02 11:09:28 PM  

shoegaze99: Neither is turning in a slip of paper, if the paper has no meaning to you.


Who says a religious bulletin has no meaning to an atheist? It may likely have quite a distasteful meaning.

But of course that's not the point in the eyes of the law.
 
2012-07-02 11:10:17 PM  
Yay.

This. Thread. AGAIN.
 
2012-07-02 11:10:42 PM  
As an atheist, I am failing to see the issue here. The owner should be allowed to run their business as they see fit, which includes a church bulletin board discount program. It's not discrimination in any form

Also, all religions (and non-religions) have their factions of assholes
 
2012-07-02 11:12:03 PM  

halfof33: Salt Lick Steady: And no, this likely wouldn't be a valid discrimination complaint if it can be shown that failure to have the piece of paper does not disqualify you from having the discount and you can prove to the court a sincerely held belief in atheism.

Jesus bro, you need to borrow a couple of bucks or something?


Aw, you're so sweet! And cute. Sure, I'll start a paypal account just for your deposits, but you're responsible for cleaning the trollgunk out of the tubes.
 
2012-07-02 11:13:07 PM  

FloydA: Private business, not a First Amendment issue. If they were refusing service to atheists, I could understand a complaint,



i understand your point, but to me these two sentences contradict each other.
that business that you have identified as private should be free to refuse service to whomever the hell they want.

as for the bing bong in the article:
tfa
He said he became an atheist about 15 years ago when he became dismayed at the religious right.

so he lost his own beliefs because of how other people chose to believe? this guy sounds like an all around dumbass.
 
2012-07-02 11:13:20 PM  

jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name

 
2012-07-02 11:13:32 PM  

muck4doo: MrCrazyInsane: Theism in all forms needs to be abolished if there is any hope for mankind to advance.

I rest my case.


Wow, holy shiat. You're right! Your quoting of some random farker named "MrCrazyInsane" is rock solid evidence. This means that Jesus is King, Elvis can suck it, and Dawkins has to write a 6660 word essay on why he's a mean poopyhead.
 
2012-07-02 11:13:40 PM  
I wonder how many of the "private businesses can do whatever" posters equally apply that saying to the crazies that interfere with abortion clinics. At least the old guy isn't trying the kill the owner. Give it a few months and the guy will probably forget where he is most of the time.

/At least it's not one of those ADA abusers that extort businesses they've never been to
 
2012-07-02 11:13:58 PM  
He can go eat somewhere else if he doesn't like it.

jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name


Exactly.
 
2012-07-02 11:14:49 PM  

MrCrazyInsane: Ah yes, that card.

Yet, without religion, how might that whole thing have gone?

Please. History is riddled with religious conflict. Time to move on as a species.


What card, sport? You think we'd all be flying around in flying hovercrafts or something?

You kind of lost the high ground when you started blathering on about
"abolishing" religious, so don't get to over excited champ, the good news is that most people aren't ready to throw out the first amendment. The better news is that it protects even the most spittle soaked anti-religious, like you.
 
2012-07-02 11:16:25 PM  

Salt Lick Steady: Aw, you're so sweet! And cute. Sure, I'll start a paypal account just for your deposits, but you're responsible for cleaning the trollgunk out of the tubes.


Thanks, bro i got plenty. You seem to need something? Perspective perhaps?
 
2012-07-02 11:17:23 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Never pass up a chance to fan the flames of hatred against atheists

/f*ck you, subby


It's not like the atheists miss an opportunity to fan the flames of hatred against theists.

Or the Boy Scouts of America.
 
2012-07-02 11:18:04 PM  

Salt Lick Steady: this likely wouldn't be a valid discrimination complaint


Correct. It's not discrimination to say that people with the freely available magic discount coupon get a discount while those who don't present the freely available magic discount coupon do not. Like if they only ran ads in a religious newspaper, for instance, and offered coupons in that paper only. That's not discrimination, since anyone can use those coupons regardless of their beliefs. All you need is the paper so you can get the freely available magic discount coupon.

I'm glad we agree on something. Cheers!
 
2012-07-02 11:19:25 PM  

RY28: FloydA: InfamousBLT: There are crazy, stupid extremists on both sides of the fence folks. Plenty of crazy extremist Christians, Jews, Muslims, and atheists. The stupid and the crazy doesn't just fall into one neat little pile, unfortunately.

"Extremist atheists" seem to be cranky 80 year old men who complain about stupid things.

Extremist theists hijack planes and crash them into buildings, shoot doctors, and bulldoze people's houses.

Both sides are the same, I guess.

Especially the mass genocide types .


Plenty of Athiests support mass genocide.
 
2012-07-02 11:19:53 PM  
Wolff said he was born a German Jew and was a devote Catholic from age 10 to 16. He said he became an atheist about 15 years ago...

This explains why he is such a pushy asshole. He learned at an early age.
 
2012-07-02 11:20:13 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Never pass up a chance to fan the flames of hatred against atheists

/f*ck you, subby


Aren't atheists usually the one's doing the fanning? Like in this case?
 
2012-07-02 11:20:41 PM  
I would want to see how American authorities would respond to this one.
 
2012-07-02 11:21:04 PM  
Jesus man. Go farking sure your local municipality for their unconstitutional tax cuts for churches, not this private business crap.
 
2012-07-02 11:21:06 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Never pass up a chance to fan the flames of hatred against atheists

/f*ck you, subby


This
 
2012-07-02 11:21:43 PM  
From the sound of the lady in the article, does anyone here think that if this guy had actually gone to the restaurant and demanded the discount even though he didn't have a program, he WOULDN'T have gotten it? They would have given him the 10% just to get him to shut the fark up.

MrCrazyInsane: Theism in all forms needs to be abolished if there is any hope for mankind to advance.

I could not give less of a fark about 10 cents off their shiatty salad bar. It's the fact that the religious do and say what they want because the opposing voice is taboo.


So, if I get what you're saying correctly, you want to be able to persecute people based on their beliefs? What would you do if they didn't want to give up their faith? I have an idea, you could could take the people who won't agree with you and make them march down the street in funny clothes, and then light them on fire, so you can show everyone who won't fall into line with your way of thinking what happens to them! That's a great and original idea!

And I can see how "taboo" the opposing voice is. The religious police are dragging you down to church right now, aren't they? Forcing you to be silent about what you think. I see how hard it must bee for you.

Seriously, that post was about as bigoted as any of the vilest filth that ever poured out of a televangelist's or Hamas imam's lips.
 
2012-07-02 11:22:37 PM  

FloydA: AbbeySomeone: FloydA: Sensei Can You See: he's another no-life-haver

FriarReb98: the stick up that atheist's butt must have a stick up its butt.


He's 80. Being grumpy for no good reason is his duty.

He's bored and lonely and working out his own issues with childhood religious abuse. That said, he should f*ck off and find another activity.

I agree. This is a stupid fight that was started by a senile old guy. Even though I agree with him that "god" is made up and religion is a bunch of nonsensical superstition, I agree with you that he should probably just sit the hell down and go back to watching Matlock. The restaurant has every right to give discounts to the superstitious people if they want to; it's their business. Atheists can just have all you can eat brunch someplace else if it really bothers them.

andyfromfl:

You might throw some of the last century's dictators in that extreme atheists category.


RY28:

Especially the mass genocide types .


Name a dictator who had people killed because they were not atheists.

Stalin had people killed because they were not Stalinists, although the Russian Orthodox church persisted through the Stalin era, so you can't use him as an example.

Mao had people killed because they were not Maoists, but Confucianism, Buddhism, Taoism, and many "folk" religions persisted in China during and after Mao's reign, so he's also not an example.

You might be able to make an argument that Pol Pot tried to eliminate religion in Kampuchea, although given the fact that the Khmer Rouge used religion as one of their primary categories for classifying people, it would be a tough argument to make.

So, given the fact that you can't use Stalin or Mao, and the use of Pol Pot is at best, tenuous, your argument that "atheism is the cause of genocide" is on rather shaky footings.

Unless you have some other examples that you would like to present of people who killed others because they were not atheists.

I'd be happy to hear of them ...


Not because they were not Athiests, but because they were "subhuman".

Eugenics etc.
 
2012-07-02 11:22:45 PM  

halfof33: MrCrazyInsane: Ah yes, that card.

Yet, without religion, how might that whole thing have gone?

Please. History is riddled with religious conflict. Time to move on as a species.

What card, sport? You think we'd all be flying around in flying hovercrafts or something?

You kind of lost the high ground when you started blathering on about
"abolishing" religious, so don't get to over excited champ, the good news is that most people aren't ready to throw out the first amendment. The better news is that it protects even the most spittle soaked anti-religious, like you.


If we are to discuss this, then why not speak to some of my points rather than resorting to personal attacks?
 
2012-07-02 11:22:45 PM  

sillydragon: muck4doo: MrCrazyInsane: Theism in all forms needs to be abolished if there is any hope for mankind to advance.

I rest my case.

Wow, holy shiat. You're right! Your quoting of some random farker named "MrCrazyInsane" is rock solid evidence. This means that Jesus is King, Elvis can suck it, and Dawkins has to write a 6660 word essay on why he's a mean poopyhead.


Oh, are you doubting there aren't a bunch of other people out there who think this way? Are you new to Fark? The Webs? To life?

I see though you want to remain willfully ignorant and keep insisting that your beliefs have never had their assholes, including yes, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot to name a few.

/You can bring up the crusades and inquisition if it makes you feel better.
 
2012-07-02 11:22:57 PM  

Hershey Highway Patrol: So what would happen if you offered a discount for everyone who threw a bible in the trash when they walked in?


That could be determined to be hate speech. If someone were to run a special if you desecrate a Tanakh or Quran, it is beyond certainty that it would be considered hate speech in this country. Probably the same with your bible special. So, while not strictly illegal, it would almost certainly open you up to many expensive lawsuits. Try it with Qurans and see what happens.

My best guess is you would simply have no customers because you are obviously a hateful douche, with whom even most militant of atheists don't want to be associated. Again, being a hateful douche isn't illegal, it just means you will go out of business after about a week.


Oh, and BTW - paper bibles generally cost $10 bucks each. So your customers getting $3 off for their $10 investment probably aren't the brightest bulbs on the tree.
 
2012-07-02 11:23:30 PM  

halfof33: Salt Lick Steady: Aw, you're so sweet! And cute. Sure, I'll start a paypal account just for your deposits, but you're responsible for cleaning the trollgunk out of the tubes.

Thanks, bro i got plenty. You seem to need something? Perspective perhaps?


Oh, I just want to pinch your cheeks!

/no not those ones
 
2012-07-02 11:24:40 PM  

JimmyFartpants: This


Lulz, don't accurately report facts that show the anti-religious in a bad light.

Fark you facts and your anti-bigot agenda!

Hee hee!
 
2012-07-02 11:24:50 PM  

wrs1864: Would it be ok to offer a 10% discount for whites?


How about a 10% discount for not being an asshole? I think a lot of places should adopt that policy -- maybe we'd see a return of civility.

/but maybe I'm hoping for too much
 
2012-07-02 11:25:11 PM  
Ah, 214 comments, which means about 3 people will actually read my comment.

Way to have a retarded comment section, fark.. you just keep losing subscribers to Reddit.

Anyways... I think the restaurant has a right to discriminate based on non-protected classes of people. Age, Military Service, Religion, Student, Women, etc.

Is it fair to everyone? Not really. Is it rustling everyone's Jimmies? Not too much.

I think we need to address the fact that there are like 8 states where atheists don't even have the right to hold public office before we go after some maw and paw food bag.
 
2012-07-02 11:28:32 PM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: That could be determined to be hate speech.


But telling people they will burn in eternal hell if they don't believe in your imaginary friend is fine isn't it?
 
2012-07-02 11:28:46 PM  

MrCrazyInsane: halfof33: MrCrazyInsane: Ah yes, that card.

Yet, without religion, how might that whole thing have gone?

Please. History is riddled with religious conflict. Time to move on as a species.

What card, sport? You think we'd all be flying around in flying hovercrafts or something?

You kind of lost the high ground when you started blathering on about
"abolishing" religious, so don't get to over excited champ, the good news is that most people aren't ready to throw out the first amendment. The better news is that it protects even the most spittle soaked anti-religious, like you.

If we are to discuss this, then why not speak to some of my points rather than resorting to personal attacks?


Your point that peoples beliefs who don't agree with yours should be abolished? Yeah, some point you have there Mr. KGB.
 
2012-07-02 11:28:51 PM  

MrCrazyInsane: If we are to discuss this, then why not speak to some of my points rather than resorting to personal attacks?


because your wish that all theism be abolished is farking ridiculous.

"ATheism in all forms needs to be abolished if there is any hope for mankind to advance."

There I've equally DERp'ed the thread. Why don''t you speak to my points!
 
2012-07-02 11:29:19 PM  

consider this: Another example of some people not being happy unless they have something to biatch about.


This.

The lady even said she's not about promoting religion. She said if anyone showed up with any church bulletin, they'd get the discount. It' s not a case of her DENYING anyone a meal because they DON'T have some bulletin or other.

What she wants, sounds to me like, is more people coming in on Sundays; and people who've been to church and have that useless piece of paper with them (when I was a wee lass forced to go to church, I'd draw all over ours with those little pencils that were also in the pews, for some reason), are a good target. She's not even demanding any proof that it's YOUR church bulletin. Show her a bulletin, get your freaking discount.

After all this mess, I wouldn't blame her if she stopped giving anyone anything but the mandated discounts, which there aren't any.
 
2012-07-02 11:32:05 PM  

whatshisname: But telling people they will burn in eternal hell if they don't believe in your imaginary friend is fine isn't it?


I didn't say that. As I said, it isn't strictly illegal. You have the right to not patronize the business of anyone who tells you that.
 
2012-07-02 11:33:06 PM  

ImJustaTroll: Ah, 214 comments, which means about 3 people will actually read my comment.

Way to have a retarded comment section, fark.. you just keep losing subscribers to Reddit.


I for one will now be going to Reddit for people not giving your post more attention.

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"Why carnt they be smart. wrike me"?
 
2012-07-02 11:33:40 PM  
How funny would it be if it turned out the complainer and the owner were in cahoots, angling for publicity for the diner?
 
2012-07-02 11:34:03 PM  
I personally really do not care what someone's religion is or what they believe...even though I find it all to be vestiges of superstitions anyway. At the same time I do find it irritating that I am bombarded with Christianity all of the time. I just think your religion should stay in your church, which a lot of religions do. However, I find it extremely annoying when there are Congressmen, Supreme Court Justices (Scalia the most notable) advocating laws that stem directly from their district/state and their own (assuming they are telling the truth) religious superstitions. I find most of thes religious persecution arguments to be laughable.

While not the case here look at those anti-bullying statutes the religious people say it violates their religious freedom to include sexual orientation and they want exemptions. This is nonsense it violates the establishment clause and I just have a hard time giving credence with the freedom argument, when your free to do whatever you want in your church, your just not getting a special A-hole card in public. I think what gets most people is they have a visceral reaction to religious groups getting special rights.
 
2012-07-02 11:35:02 PM  

ImJustaTroll: non-protected classes of people. Age, Military Service, Religion, Student, Women, etc.


Besides military service, all of those are protected classes (age under state law). ?
 
2012-07-02 11:35:26 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: If the restaurant was run by the state I could see there being an issue, but it isn't. It's a privately owned, independent restaurant. Separation of church and state doesn't even factor in.

Having said that, I wonder if this organization has gone after Chick-fil-A yet. Do they even have restaurants in Pennsylvania?


Chick-Fil-A does, yes. They have one at my university (Drexel, in Philly) in the big dining area they put in recently by the residence halls.

Of course, even having gone there in the past and knowing full well how delicious they are, I refuse to give them another dime after having learned that their founder takes the money he earns from the business and gives (some of) it to anti LGBT groups. Not cool.
 
2012-07-02 11:35:37 PM  

jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name


I am a Christian but I have to say, I respect the rights of atheists. I don't argue with them because I am secure in my faith. I am not the kind of person that gets bent out of shape with "Merry Christmas" versus "Happy Holidays" because I am aware that a lot of people celebrate different holidays. I dont get my panties in a bunch about removing crosses and christmas trees and stuff cuz it's just symbolism and to me, what matters is in my heart. Ten commandments on a judicial building, get them off of there. It doesn't matter to me.

BUT, filing a suit like this smacks of "some people need to mind their own business." It is kind of a dick move. Seriously. They need to get a life. They are free to get a circular and use it. It is no different than clipping a coupon.

/making folks look bad
 
2012-07-02 11:36:23 PM  
no shoes, no shirt, no service.

Ladies night - he can't change genders THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
Senior Discount - he's 80 but I'm not and will have decades to wait for my discount THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
Free meal/dessert/muzzles to kids under 12- I don't have kids THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
Double Coupons - I don't take the paper and don't get coupons THIS IS AN OUTRAGE

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
 
2012-07-02 11:36:23 PM  
There seems to be a new breed of athiest whose entire cognition amounts to getting in peoples faces for a reddit picture pose.

Old school athiests used to profoundly understate their point by simply being more Christ-like than the Christians.
 
2012-07-02 11:36:36 PM  

ImJustaTroll: Ah, 214 comments, which means about 3 people will actually read my comment.

Way to have a retarded comment section, fark.. you just keep losing subscribers to Reddit.

Anyways... I think the restaurant has a right to discriminate based on non-protected classes of people. Age, Military Service, Religion, Student, Women, etc.

Is it fair to everyone? Not really. Is it rustling everyone's Jimmies? Not too much.

I think we need to address the fact that there are like 8 states where atheists don't even have the right to hold public office before we go after some maw and paw food bag.


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2012-07-02 11:36:39 PM  
Just go to a damn church and pick up a bulletin.
They are free, for fark's sake.
 
2012-07-02 11:36:48 PM  
Go to hell atheist! Oops, too late!
 
2012-07-02 11:37:18 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Never pass up a chance to fan the flames of hatred against atheists

/f*ck you, subby


THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
 
2012-07-02 11:37:18 PM  
Reading these threads is like walking past a table full of drunk Philosophy sophomores.
 
2012-07-02 11:38:17 PM  

Waldo Pepper: Salt Lick Steady: And the reason I post this is to remind you dumbasses talking about ladies night that if you insist your own dickfisted hand be given a free drink too, you can demand that.

No, this is not a big deal, but it's not an entirely meritless claim.

interesting

Link


From your link "If you're a business owner, all is not lost. Even in states where Ladies' Night has come under fire, businesses have come up with creative solutions. In Colorado, for example, one club replaced Ladies' Night with "Lipstick Thursdays" where discounts are offered to everyone--male and female--who happens to be wearing lipstick."
Church bulletin is analogous to lipstick. Case dismissed.
 
2012-07-02 11:39:10 PM  

zzrhardy: Old school athiests used to profoundly understate their point by simply being more Christ-like than the Christians.


Most atheists don't have a point to make.
They just live their life without paying any attention whatsoever to religion.
 
2012-07-02 11:40:04 PM  

devildog123: From the sound of the lady in the article, does anyone here think that if this guy had actually gone to the restaurant and demanded the discount even though he didn't have a program, he WOULDN'T have gotten it? They would have given him the 10% just to get him to shut the fark up.

MrCrazyInsane: Theism in all forms needs to be abolished if there is any hope for mankind to advance.

I could not give less of a fark about 10 cents off their shiatty salad bar. It's the fact that the religious do and say what they want because the opposing voice is taboo.

So, if I get what you're saying correctly, you want to be able to persecute people based on their beliefs? What would you do if they didn't want to give up their faith? I have an idea, you could could take the people who won't agree with you and make them march down the street in funny clothes, and then light them on fire, so you can show everyone who won't fall into line with your way of thinking what happens to them! That's a great and original idea!

And I can see how "taboo" the opposing voice is. The religious police are dragging you down to church right now, aren't they? Forcing you to be silent about what you think. I see how hard it must bee for you.

Seriously, that post was about as bigoted as any of the vilest filth that ever poured out of a televangelist's or Hamas imam's lips.


No. No, you are not getting what I am saying correctly.

I'm not part of the group that wants to prevent homosexual marriage. (how's that for minding one's own business?)

I'm not part of the group that thinks abortion is wrong (even in the case of rape and incest) and is grounds for justified terroristic acts.

I'm not part of the group that thinks the public school curriculum should not include evolution.

I'm not part of the group that has sects that believe women are inferior.

I'm not part if the group that operates tax-free and largely without oversight.

I'm not part of the group that has spawned more war and death over the course of history then we could ever tally, all in the name of the lord (in whatever form).

Sorry, but the believers are dying out because they are not correct. You can be a good person without a "good book."

Also, hurl the bigot comment. That's so special. I am comfortable in my human being. Fear is what causes religion, and is its trademark. Insults are words of fear.
 
2012-07-02 11:40:25 PM  

muck4doo: sillydragon: muck4doo: MrCrazyInsane: Theism in all forms needs to be abolished if there is any hope for mankind to advance.

I rest my case.

Wow, holy shiat. You're right! Your quoting of some random farker named "MrCrazyInsane" is rock solid evidence. This means that Jesus is King, Elvis can suck it, and Dawkins has to write a 6660 word essay on why he's a mean poopyhead.

Oh, are you doubting there aren't a bunch of other people out there who think this way? Are you new to Fark? The Webs? To life?

I see though you want to remain willfully ignorant and keep insisting that your beliefs have never had their assholes, including yes, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot to name a few.

/You can bring up the crusades and inquisition if it makes you feel better.


No, I'm not doubting there are people like that around, but you quoting some random guy off of fark as evidence of pretty much anything beyond "Some random guy on Fark.com said..." is pretty silly.

And...wat? I "keep insisting"? Where?
 
2012-07-02 11:40:55 PM  

towatchoverme: Reading these threads is like walking past a table full of drunk Philosophy sophomores.


That is why fark is losing
"subscribers" to something called
Reddit.Which is available on the intraweb
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2012-07-02 11:41:32 PM  
just so you coupon kings know, those church bulletins are plentiful, they'll gladly find you one if you don't see the pile(s).
 
2012-07-02 11:41:40 PM  
I'm as agnostic/atheist/anti-religion as the next guy, and I have no problem with this restaurant. It's no different than giving a discount for bringing in your ticket stub from the ballgame the night before.
 
2012-07-02 11:41:46 PM  
I'm an atheist myself, but folks like this John Wolff of Manheim Twp. are just sad little pricks. What that restaurant is doing is no different than what all the restaurants around the big multiplex/IMAX theater where I live do when they offer a 10% discount with your movie ticket stub.
 
2012-07-02 11:42:12 PM  
Oh FARK YOU, haters.
I don't cry when it's ladies night.
I don't give a crap about Senior Citizen discounts.
Don't like it? Don't eat there.
Buncha crybabies.
 
2012-07-02 11:43:24 PM  

Shostie: Coco LaFemme: It's a private business, they can serve or refuse to serve whomever they want. Doesn't make it morally right, but that doesn't make it illegal, either.

That's actually not... entirely true...

Link


this is about a 10% discount...not...a...refuse...service...situation but carry on.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
 
2012-07-02 11:45:35 PM  

RealAmericanHero: I support any and all efforts against Christianity, whatever those may be. Bravo, 80 year old guy.

/and before you bring it up, I'm equally against all religion, but Christianity is the biggest problem here
//any saying "just let it go" is sort of like saying "just let people spread aids, it's their right"


THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
 
2012-07-02 11:46:46 PM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: Hershey Highway Patrol: So what would happen if you offered a discount for everyone who threw a bible in the trash when they walked in?

That could be determined to be hate speech. If someone were to run a special if you desecrate a Tanakh or Quran, it is beyond certainty that it would be considered hate speech in this country. Probably the same with your bible special. So, while not strictly illegal, it would almost certainly open you up to many expensive lawsuits. Try it with Qurans and see what happens.

My best guess is you would simply have no customers because you are obviously a hateful douche, with whom even most militant of atheists don't want to be associated. Again, being a hateful douche isn't illegal, it just means you will go out of business after about a week.


Oh, and BTW - paper bibles generally cost $10 bucks each. So your customers getting $3 off for their $10 investment probably aren't the brightest bulbs on the tree.


I'd go to the restaurant and do it for the laughs. As far as the cost, let the Gideons bear it ;)

Personally, I think the idea is dumb for a business, but it could be funny as heck to watch. I'd change it to ANY "Holy Book" from any religion for the lulz. Watch the collective uproar!
 
2012-07-02 11:47:32 PM  
ImJustaTroll

your name

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
 
2012-07-02 11:47:50 PM  

exick: jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name

I was ready to say this too, but then I saw that the dude is 80 and decided to chalk it up to old man yells at cloud.


Poor old guy will be in hell soon. Id be yelling at clouds too.
 
2012-07-02 11:48:02 PM  

sillydragon: muck4doo: sillydragon: muck4doo: MrCrazyInsane: Theism in all forms needs to be abolished if there is any hope for mankind to advance.

I rest my case.

Wow, holy shiat. You're right! Your quoting of some random farker named "MrCrazyInsane" is rock solid evidence. This means that Jesus is King, Elvis can suck it, and Dawkins has to write a 6660 word essay on why he's a mean poopyhead.

Oh, are you doubting there aren't a bunch of other people out there who think this way? Are you new to Fark? The Webs? To life?

I see though you want to remain willfully ignorant and keep insisting that your beliefs have never had their assholes, including yes, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot to name a few.

/You can bring up the crusades and inquisition if it makes you feel better.

No, I'm not doubting there are people like that around, but you quoting some random guy off of fark as evidence of pretty much anything beyond "Some random guy on Fark.com said..." is pretty silly.

And...wat? I "keep insisting"? Where?


My bad, that wasn't you. It really doesn't have anything to do with religion or "lack thereof". It has to do with authoritarian asshats who want to enforce their beliefs on everyone else. Those come in all creeds, shapes, and sizes.

/Yeah, I called ya fat.
//Look at me, I'm skinny
///It never stopped me from gettin' busy
 
2012-07-02 11:48:54 PM  

halfof33: towatchoverme: Reading these threads is like walking past a table full of drunk Philosophy sophomores.

That is why fark is losing
"subscribers" to something called
Reddit.Which is available on the intraweb
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LOL!
 
2012-07-02 11:48:58 PM  

inglixthemad: I'd go to the restaurant and do it for the laughs. As far as the cost, let the Gideons bear it ;)

Personally, I think the idea is dumb for a business, but it could be funny as heck to watch. I'd change it to ANY "Holy Book" from any religion for the lulz. Watch the collective uproar!


The birth of an internet tough guy
 
2012-07-02 11:51:39 PM  

Zombie DJ: Oh FARK YOU, haters.
I don't cry when it's ladies night.
I don't give a crap about Senior Citizen discounts.
Don't like it? Don't eat there.
Buncha crybabies Crybaby.


Feexed
 
2012-07-02 11:53:20 PM  
Maybe the Restaurant can give a discount for bringing in a copy of "The God Delusion."

Maybe if a person believes in Mammon, He can bring in a copy of the Sunday financial section.
 
2012-07-02 11:54:18 PM  

ImJustaTroll: Way to have a retarded comment section, fark.. you just keep losing subscribers to Reddit.


Anyone we lose to the Reddit hivemind wasn't worth keeping to begin with.
 
2012-07-02 11:54:20 PM  
I dunno, he could argue that "church" is used in the broad sense and give the discount to people with stuff from mosques/temples/wiccan circles/philosophy lectures/comic conventions/etc too. That could be justifiable.

If he literally means just Christian churches, then yeah, prepare to be lawsuited. That's not how civil rights work, religion falls under protected class so legally this is basically the same as refusing to offer normal-price service to non-white people.

zzrhardy: There seems to be a new breed of athiest whose entire cognition amounts to getting in peoples faces for a reddit picture pose.

Old school athiests used to profoundly understate their point by simply being more Christ-like than the Christians.


WTF are you talking about? Atheists have assholes and good eggs like everyone else. The louder, more obvious Christians are generally among the assholes, too.

We're not inherently any better behaviorally than religious people (well, on average, yeah, but not in a case-by-case way) we're just wrong about a million things humans are usually wrong about instead of a million and one.
 
2012-07-02 11:56:09 PM  

dougputhoff: Maybe the Restaurant can give a discount for bringing in a copy of "The God Delusion."


Maybe the Restaurant can give a discount for bringing in a copy of "The Pietà."
 
2012-07-02 11:58:11 PM  

Hobodeluxe: Hershey Highway Patrol: So what would happen if you offered a discount for everyone who threw a bible in the trash when they walked in?

the Phelps klan picketing outside your establishment with their signs?


So no downside?
 
2012-07-02 11:58:49 PM  

Mock26: Coco LaFemme: Good. Who gives a rat's wet asshole if this restaurant offers a discount to people who bring in church bulletins? They're allowed to do that. They could even put up a sign that says "Atheists/Non-Christians not allowed" and you still can't do jack or shiat about it. It's a private business, they can serve or refuse to serve whomever they want. Doesn't make it morally right, but that doesn't make it illegal, either.

Just find a church, grab a bulletin, and get your precious 10% discount if it means that much to you, you whiny little chucklefark.

Actually, private businesses that are open to the public are not allowed to discriminate based on age, gender, sex, physical handicap, or religion. That is actually a Federal Law. And, being an atheist is protected under the term "religion." So, they could not legally put up a sign saying "Atheists/Non-Christians not allowed." And while they are free to refuse service to any customer, they cannot do so because of the person's age, gender, sex, physical handicap, or religion. They can, however, refuse service for just about any other reason.


And the resturant refused sevice to whom...?? What law sets the Federally Mandated Price for a Plate of Chow?

Crimeny: a private business wants to charge different rates. Oh my, the outrage!!11!!!1!!!!111 Bugger off, Grumpy Gus.


Salt Lick Steady: shoegaze99: (snip) No. Again, coupons are NOT religious in nature. It's not a matter of having a slip of paper; it's a matter of having a religious slip of paper. [...]


What quality does a 'religious slip of paper' have to distinguish it from non-reliigous slips? Does anything printed in a church become 'religious'? Are only bullitens religious, or are member mailing lists religious too?? Can any slip of paper with words from a religious text become religious itself, or only slips of paper intended to preserve and record religious teachings?

You're trying very hard, and should get credit for that effort. But the argument that buliitens are being used as de facto coupons is rather compelling. The requirement that they be "current" bolsters this line of reasoning -- meaning a patron could not simply turn in a bulliten from 1962, much like newspaper-clipped coupons are typically printed with an expiration date.

Are there legitamate instances of discrimination due to religious and/or a-religious beliefs? Probably so. Is this one of them, or does it rise to the level of a cause celebre?? I just don't see it. It's a private business trying to increase traffic by altering the price of its goods. Stretching it into a Federal case seems rather petty.
 
2012-07-02 11:59:22 PM  
Whooooo hooooo!!!! Athiesm thread on night shift is wack!
 
2012-07-03 12:02:02 AM  

Jim_Callahan: this is basically the same as refusing to offer normal-price service to non-white people.


It isn't. The discount is not based on whether or not you are a Christian, or whether you do or do not believe, or even whether or not you attend church. It's based on whether or nor you have a freely available, easily-accessible slip of paper.

The woman says straight out that you don't need to be a church-goer to get the discount: Prudhomme, who does not attend church due to her work schedule, said she told the group she operates an independent restaurant and suggested non church-goers can pick up bulletins from any church and bring them to the restaurant to cash in on the discount.

You don't have to attend church. You don't have to believe. You don't have to do anything other than present a flier you can pick up for free all over town. It's nothing at all like refusing discounts to blacks or any other such comparison,
 
2012-07-03 12:02:25 AM  
So it's like the westboro basptisist of atheism?

What irritates me most is not people who don't agree with me, but rather people who are so convinced they have the only possible right answer that it not only is it no longer necessary for them to continue thinking, but they'd invite you to stop as well.

We share this world. Think about it.
 
2012-07-03 12:03:21 AM  
What about churches that don't have bulletins? I bet they would have something to say about this!
 
2012-07-03 12:04:24 AM  
HERO???

Really?
 
2012-07-03 12:04:36 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Are they the ones who have Bible verses on their drink cups and food wrappers, or is that In-N-Out? Or do both of them do that?


You may be thinking of Cook-Out (or Cook Out or Cookout, the spelling seems inconsistent), a chain of 100 restaurants in the southeastern USA.

'Cookout caters to Christian customers by playing Christian music over the intercom and printing various Bible verses on their cups and bags. Their packaging displays a variety of religious phrases printed, for example, "John 3:16″ and "God Bless America" are printed on the cups, "God Bless the USA" and "Galatians 6:10″ are printed on the french fry bags, and "THANK YOU GOD FOR AMERICA" and "Psalms 119:165″ are printed on the full size bags, but Bible verses vary.'

Their food's pretty good, actually. Bit better than your average burger joint in that part of America.
 
2012-07-03 12:07:36 AM  

ImJustaTroll: Ah, 214 comments, which means about 3 people will actually read my comment.

Way to have a retarded comment section, fark.. you just keep losing subscribers to Reddit.

Anyways... I think the restaurant has a right to discriminate based on non-protected classes of people. Age, Military Service, Religion, Student, Women, etc.

Is it fair to everyone? Not really. Is it rustling everyone's Jimmies? Not too much.

I think we need to address the fact that there are like 8 states where atheists don't even have the right to hold public office before we go after some maw and paw food bag.


Hooray!! I'm in the 33%

/ go me!
 
2012-07-03 12:09:21 AM  

GT_bike: RealAmericanHero: I support any and all efforts against Christianity, whatever those may be. Bravo, 80 year old guy.

/and before you bring it up, I'm equally against all religion, but Christianity is the biggest problem here
//any saying "just let it go" is sort of like saying "just let people spread aids, it's their right"

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE


You're on a roll tonight, Biker.

I AM OUTRAGED!!!
 
2012-07-03 12:11:10 AM  

s2s2s2: Salt Lick Steady: That's not the question as the courts have already determined that lack of religion is, for the purposes of religious discrimination laws, a religion

Atheism is a religion. The courts say so. I'm glad you finally proved it*.

*once you provide a citation.


Atheism isn't a religion. However, I'd argue Anti-theism is... meetings and conventions held with some regularity, books that guide thought, a belief that not adhering to a certain viewpoint places your morals in danger of corruption... sounds pretty religious to me.
 
2012-07-03 12:15:31 AM  
"threatens to sue"? He actually filed the complaint with the Human Rights Commission... It uses the states resources to bring the business owner to court.
 
2012-07-03 12:17:29 AM  

Marine1: Atheism isn't a religion. However, I'd argue Anti-theism is... meetings and conventions held with some regularity, books that guide thought, a belief that not adhering to a certain viewpoint places your morals in danger of corruption... sounds pretty religious to me.


Except for that whole "belief in a supernatural being" thing.

Webster or Oxford - it's the definition of religion
 
2012-07-03 12:19:37 AM  

KyDave: Are there legitamate instances of discrimination due to religious and/or a-religious beliefs? Probably so. Is this one of them, or does it rise to the level of a cause celebre?? I just don't see it. It's a private business trying to increase traffic by altering the price of its goods. Stretching it into a Federal case seems rather petty.


Christ, read the thread. It's not a federal case, and I already said it's not a big deal but that he could plausibly have a case under the PHRA
 
2012-07-03 12:20:04 AM  

whatshisname: Marine1: Atheism isn't a religion. However, I'd argue Anti-theism is... meetings and conventions held with some regularity, books that guide thought, a belief that not adhering to a certain viewpoint places your morals in danger of corruption... sounds pretty religious to me.

Except for that whole "belief in a supernatural being" thing.

Webster or Oxford - it's the definition of religion


Well, maybe I'm using the wrong term. Dogma would be a better description. Anti-theism certainly has a dogma, and ultimately, that's what causes persecution and hatred. They won't admit it, and would love to pass off faith as the cause, but the real cause is dogma.
 
2012-07-03 12:20:48 AM  

BMFPitt: jj325: People like this need to STFU and quit giving atheists a bad name

That's the big difference between non-believers and believers. When an atheist acts like an asshat over his non-belief, other atheists won't hesitate to call them out on it.

doglover: There's a reason no atheist has been elected president, and it's not because of the Christian voters.

What makes you think we haven't had quite a few?


History books.
 
2012-07-03 12:22:31 AM  

OgreMagi: Damn atheists are as annoying as vegan. Vegans are annoying because they NEVER SHUT UP about being a vegan. Atheists are annoying because they NEVER SHUT UP about religion.

/my religion is I don't give a shiat.


This is why I hate horse enthusiasts. They never, *ever* STFU about their stupid god damn horses.

/relevant
 
2012-07-03 12:22:53 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Are they the ones who have Bible verses on their drink cups and food wrappers, or is that In-N-Out? Or do both of them do that?


I don't think I've ever eaten at an In-N-Out Burger, so I thought of Cook-Out first. According to Wikipedia, however, both restaurants do the Bible verse thing.

I would guess that Cook-Out and In-N-Out are similar, but Cook-Out's on the East Coast, and In-N-Out is out West.

Meanwhile, Chik-Fil-A's founder is Southern Baptist, it's closed on Sundays (and Christmas) to promote Christianity, and it's extremely hostile to Islam (and probably any other religious viewpoint that's not Baptist) and homosexuality.

They seem to have backed off this position ever so slightly, however. The original statement was "I was not so committed to financial success that I was willing to abandon my principles and priorities. One of the most visible examples of this is our decision to close on Sunday. Our decision to close on Sunday was our way of honoring God and of directing our attention to things that mattered more than our business." according to Wikipedia.

On their official website, it now says:

"He [Truett Cathy] has often shared that his decision was as much practical as spiritual. He believes that all franchised Chick-fil-A Operators and their Restaurant employees should have an opportunity to rest, spend time with family and friends, and worship if they choose to do so. That's why all Chick-fil-A Restaurants are closed on Sundays."

Interesting.
 
2012-07-03 12:23:52 AM  
I used to go to a place that had free food, but only for Catholics.

Not much food, just little wafers...
 
2012-07-03 12:24:35 AM  
Is their chicken halal?
Kosher?
 
2012-07-03 12:29:22 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Never pass up a chance to fan the flames of hatred against atheists

/f*ck you, subby


Atheist makes ass of himself and a Farker notices and posts an article about it with a snarky comment. That's "fanning the flames of hatred" to you? If you find that people are treating you like you're a hair-trigger hysteric, this is why.
 
2012-07-03 12:31:54 AM  

whatshisname: Marine1: Atheism isn't a religion. However, I'd argue Anti-theism is... meetings and conventions held with some regularity, books that guide thought, a belief that not adhering to a certain viewpoint places your morals in danger of