X-boxershorts: Shaggy_C: Mrtraveler01: After he basically concentrated his efforts on Iraq and turned that into such a power vaccum that Al Qaeda moved in and spent nearly half a decade fighting US troops in Iraq.

Au Contraire; all during 2007-2008 liberals on this site were howling about how "Al Qaeda in Iraq" didn't exist. Changing the narrative to put them there only bolsters the case for Bush in retrospect, which I don't think is your intention.

AL Queda in Iraq didn't exist until we took out Saddam. The Baath party had always been secular with very little tolerance for religious fundamentalists.

/Power vacuums, how do they work?

The al-Qaeda in Iraq was not the same al-Qaeda bin Laden created and supported. They were a splinter group, using the name for street cred and in hopes of getting some of the $$$ that bin Laden still had left. Co-opting names from successful terror organizations is not new or unusual. What IS unusual is the idea that a small organization like bin Laden's al-Qaeda would suddenly be a huge pan-Arabic cooperative.

So anyone pretending that "Al-Qaeda in Iraq" was the same group that flew into the WTC is either deluded or illiterate.

elchip: Welfare Xmas: ObamacareTax is there nothing this great big wonderful law that smells of unicorn farts, looks like the emerald city and tastes like nyan cat can't do.

I mean seriously. It's just like John Roberts is licking my balls while Nancy Pelosi is sucking my cock and BHO is fingering my anus.

HEAVEN

Do you have health insurance? Do you plan to get it in the next couple years? Good, no tax for you.

I just want to be clear I am not on the side of the guy having the liberal orgy.

But you are aware that there are like a dozen other taxes built into the bill right?

Taxes on capital gains, cadillac healthcare plans, etc.... And many are not adjusted for inflation, so every year they will hit more people until the entire middle class is paying more taxes under those plans.

Heres a list from the WSJ.....

• Starting in 2013, the bill adds an additional 0.9% to the 2.9% Medicare tax for singles who earn more than $200,000 and couples making more than $250,000.

• For first time, the bill also applies Medicare's 2.9% payroll tax rate to investment income, including dividends, interest income and capital gains. Added to the 0.9% payroll surcharge, that means a 3.8-percentage point tax hike on "the rich." Oh, and these new taxes aren't indexed for inflation, so many middle-class families will soon be considered rich and pay the surcharge as their incomes rise past $250,000 due to tax-bracket creep. Remember how the Alternative Minimum Tax was supposed to apply only to a handful of millionaires?

• Also starting in 2013 is a 2.3% excise tax on medical device manufacturers and importers. That's estimated to raise $20 billion.

• Already underway this year is the new annual fee on "branded" drug makers and importers, which will raise $27 billion.

• Another $15.2 billion will come from raising the floor on allowable medical deductions to 10% of adjusted gross income from 7.5%.

• Starting in 2018, the bill imposes a whopping 40% "excise tax" on high-cost health insurance plans. Though it only applies to two years in the 2010-2019 window of ObamaCare's original budget score, this tax would still raise $32 billion-and much more in future years.

• And don't forget a new annual fee on health insurance providers starting in 2014 and estimated to raise $60 billion. This tax, like many others on this list, will be passed along to consumers in higher health-care costs.

There are numerous other new taxes in the bill, all adding up to some $438 billion in new revenue over 10 years. But even that is understated because by 2019 the annual revenue increase is nearly $90 billion, or $900 billion in the 10 years after that. Yet Mr. Obama wants to add another $1 trillion in new taxes on top of this.

My favorite one is the 40% excise tax on high cost plans....because that does not at all sound like an attempt to force people out of high cost plans and into the state exchanges. Its also going to hit all the plans of public employees who negotiated themselves no cost high benefit plans over the years from liberal governments. Do you really think those union employees are going to pay that extra tax? No, its going to be added to your local taxes, you are going to be paying for the 'cadillac health plans' of union city employees through other taxes and fees imposed locally.

SO just to round all that up for you......

You buy your own healthcare, you pay your deductibles, then you pay the taxes directly to the plan on your retirement accounts and house and other 'rich' people things, then the new alternative minimum tax comes around and bites into your tax bracket, your city raises taxes in 2017 or so to cover the employees excise tax, your health care policy starts going up by 25% a year as the companies struggle to contain expenses imposed by the benefits section of the law.....and in the end you cant afford to buy insurance anymore and you pay the penalty and get your healthcare just like all the other losers.....at the emergency room. Oh and I forgot if your state assumes the medicaid cost for all the people eligible under the plan it probably goes bankrupt and taxes the crap out of you to pay for liver operations for drunks living in the housing projects.


But its totally cool and all because you dont need an income or a country with a vibrant economy, all you really need is health care.

skullkrusher: Your Average Witty Fark User: So, if this is news, what would subtard say when Republicans gut the minimum wage, thus causing wages to plummet like a rock?

/subtard is a farking retard, or a troll
//probably both

huh?

Ignore it. YAW-FU isn't paging you.

/But it's "nice" to know that you answer promptly when called.

Debeo Summa Credo: fringedmyotis: So, if I understand the situation correctly:

1. The Job Creators (all blessings be upon Them) are enjoying the lowest tax rates in 80 years
2. Jobs are being created (from TFA), but wages are dropping

Therefore, the Job Creators must be keeping our f*cking money, right?

No, you don't understand the situation correctly. Or maybe you do, but you wrote a completely nonsensical post to hide your understanding.

We all know that you're their self-designated FARK fluffer, but that response was even more lame than your usual.

/It was still false, though, so your track record remains unblemished.

jackiepaper: Corporate profits, oddly, are as high as ever. Strange, aint it, how they havent trickled down any of those profits.

That's the part they hope you don't notice. It's pretty remarkable that they have.

"Tax cuts for job creators! Rising tide floats all boats!"

"Corporate profits are at record highs and taxes at record lows. Yet no local jobs are being created and the gap between rich and poor is wider than ever."

"GIVE IT MORE TIME!"

If the GOP had to run solely on their economic policy, they'd be toast. Good thing they have gays, guns, and Jesus to hide their lack of ideas year after year.

Because People in power are Stupid: It's funny how policy decisions by conservatives get blamed on democrats when they have a negative outcome.

Supply and demand. Learn about it.

AirForceVet: I'll just leave this here.

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Considering the Iraq and Afghan Wars, in addition to the Great Recession, President Obama's been doing pretty good.

Let's see... Obama's response to our bloated military has been to let it continue to be bloated. His response to our economic mess has been to make it worse. Yeah... great job, Obama.

MyRandomName: born_yesterday: Remember the last time there was a Republican President, majority in Congress, and majority in the Supreme Court? Remember how awesome everything was then, with a thriving peacetime economy, we were respected internationally, and social issues evaporated due to effective governance?

I believe they were called The Good Olde Days (C)*

/* Does not apply to minorities, women, or those earning under $300k/year

The year 2006 was doing fine. The crash was 08ish when dems controlled Congress.

Ummm... 2006 (and the 30+ years leading up to it) was a BUBBLE. That's not an economy that's doing fine.

Pincy: archichris: • Starting in 2013, the bill adds an additional 0.9% to the 2.9% Medicare tax for singles who earn more than $200,000 and couples making more than $250,000.

Well, if this pisses you off I guess you could always downgrade to a job that doesn't pay as much?

Much like Joe the Plumber, he's most likely referring to his imaginary income...

jltthorson: AirForceVet:
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The unemployment rate on Dec 7th 1941 was 17%. The death of half a million Americans and the destruction of everyone else's industrial base makes for a robust postwar domestic economy with good employment. Now if we can get the Japanese to attack again Obama might have a hope. Nobody would use such a bumper sticker except a clueless farker.

Gee, what was the unemployment rate in 1932? Oh my, 25% you say? And it dropped to, what...10% by 1937? Then jumped again to 20%? You would think that conservative pressure to pull back on public sector investment programs had a negative impact? No way!!!



It must suck the be so sensitive to criticism as to constantly attempt to rewrite history to fit one's life narrative.

X-boxershorts: It must suck the be so sensitive to criticism as to constantly attempt to rewrite history to fit one's life narrative.

He probably just saw someone with a "Friends don't let friends vote Republican" bumper sticker earlier today, and he needed to vent a little.

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HOPE

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CHANGE

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I see today's representative has arrived...

beta_plus: You sound like you like it when black people who get in your way are killed.

Awwww, and you sound like you need a little more salve applied, little man.

We'll start taking matters into our own hands soon enough. Please, keep provoking the people who are responsible for your wealth. Please.

We can get this over with quickly.

Kibbler: jltthorson: AirForceVet:
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The unemployment rate on Dec 7th 1941 was 17%. The death of half a million Americans and the destruction of everyone else's industrial base makes for a robust postwar domestic economy with good employment. Now if we can get the Japanese to attack again Obama might have a hope. Nobody would use such a bumper sticker except a clueless farker.

Because FDR ignored the GOP and insisted on a policy of total head-in-the-sand apathy. So many times we heard him say that Mr. Hitler was a man we could work with, and besides, Europe was none of our business. The GOP and corporate America valiantly tried to point out the danger, but no, Mr. Libby Lib insisted that we just close our eyes and wish the problem away. In 1940, they had to drag him kicking and screaming to help Britain. If not for them, Britain would have gone under, and then the GOP would have been able to say, now we have to face Germany entirely alone, Mr. Libby Lib. And don't even get me started on how the GOP insisted that we rush aid to the USSR, even if it was our ideological enemy, while FDR said, "NO! Let them sink! Let the Nazis run over them! Better Nazi than Commie! Better dead than either!" Only the strength and will of the GOP ensured that all those trucks and planes and tanks and loads of fuel and food got to Russia in time to help them fend off the Germans.

IBM bravely cut off all business with Germany in the 1930's, and then after the war started, when they had the opportunity to work secretly with the Nazi regime through a Swiss subsidiary to set up a system that they knew was being used to catalog occupied Europe's Jews, they recoiled in moral horror and refused to make a quick buck by helping. No! was the courageous answer. Never! We will never sully ourselves that way! Fight the Nazi menace! Hew to the moral course! This was why, after the war, they didn't have to use threats of lawsuits to suppress the story of how they helped the Nazis feed people into death camps, because of course it never happened.

USA! USA!


Oh..And Prescott Bush