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(Washington Post)   "It's the biggest tax increase in history. Granted, it's almost as big as Bush '90 and Clinton '93, but nowhere near as massive as Reagan '82. Yes, THAT Reagan, the one from the stained-glass window on your trailer   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 60
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2012-07-02 04:42:30 PM

FlashHarry: i have a feeling that they'll come to regret calling it obamacare.


While I usually call it HCR (though I guess technically it's ACA, people seem to understand what I'm saying), I'm kind of hoping you're right. If you're gonna pin the entire potential failure of a project on a single guy, you're gonna have to deal with its success being to his credit (assuming it is a success, which seems pretty likely right now given that the Massachusetts version is doing well).

patrick767: What's sad is that the ACA is the most we could get in this farked up country.


They're a large industry and one of the few truly domestic industries. If you just up and eliminate the entire profession at a stroke not only are all the people directly affected pissed at you, you're also the guy that eliminated millions of jobs in favor of government control.

The swap to single-payer sort of requires an exceptionally strong economy no matter that country you're in, basically. The congress kinda had to work with the economy they had, not the one they wanted.
 
2012-07-02 05:32:46 PM
Saint Ronnie, Peace Be Upon Him.

*kneels, genuflects*
 
2012-07-02 05:59:56 PM
But it does include a number of tax hikes. The individual mandate, however, isn't one of the big ones. It's only expected to raise $27 billion during the next decade. The largest tax increase in the law is on high earners, who will see their Medicare payroll taxes increase by 0.9 percentage point and who will also pay a slightly higher rate on investment income. That raises more than $200 billion. There's also the tax on unusually expensive health insurance plans, which raises $30 billion in the first decade, and much more in the second. There's a $60 billion tax on insurance companies.

This nuance will play well against the foghorn of Fox News.
 
2012-07-02 06:35:53 PM

FabulousFreep: Wonkblog? Swear i thought that said "Honkbag".


Took too many dives off that tower, huh, Fabulous Freep?

/one of my fave Yosemite Sam cartoons, btw.
 
2012-07-02 06:40:42 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Another chart.

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t.qkme.me
 
2012-07-02 07:39:26 PM

silo123j: *wishes that someone in the press who call BS*

Sighs heavily...

\continues to weep whist reading the politics tab.


Typical liberal media, expecting the press to report on facts, facts, facts with NO regard for balance.
 
2012-07-02 10:13:03 PM
I love my American socialist medical care.

/Tricare is a nice perk.
 
2012-07-03 12:08:06 AM

Marcus Aurelius: So pay the tax instead. It comes to a whopping $95. That's about, what, one quarter of an emergency room visit?


Where the heck do you live? The last time I had to go to the ER, they billed my insurance for $15,000. It was particularly nice of them to charge $14 for 11 cents worth of Ibuprofen.
 
2012-07-03 08:37:01 AM

jcooli09: bloatboy: For those of you who do not remember that era, before Reagan took office, the top tax rate was 70%. When he left office, it was 28%.
Yes, he (and congress) did increase taxes, after he (and congress) slashed taxes in 1981 and 1986. But the increases were less about increasing rates and more about closing loopholes.
The biggest increase in tax was agreed upon as a package of taxes (which passed) and budget cuts (which were agreed to, and never materialized).

Yes, I remember Reagan. He's the guy ushered in the current age of deficit spending, when he wasn't negotiating with terrorists or selling weapons to fund illegal wars.

Reagan was a stain on this nation. That he's worshipped today is an embarrassment.


There was deficits before Reagan. The Vietnam war was very expensive after all. But Reagan won office after campaigning on balancing the budget and then proceeded to create even bigger deficits than his predecessors.

As far as I know Clinton is the only modern president to have a balanced budget - in fact George W inherited a budget surplus from Clinton.
 
2012-07-03 06:57:48 PM

FlashHarry: xaveth: The same Reagan that butthurt you subby? Yes, THAT Reagan.

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Reagan got you too, eh? Lot of butthurt here. Sorry for your pain.
 
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