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2012-07-02 09:09:36 AM
Returning to the 1870's would actually be a step forward for Mississippi.
 
2012-07-02 09:37:14 AM
They are going back to Reconstruction?
 
2012-07-02 10:12:02 AM
When did Mississippi ever leave the 1870s?
 
2012-07-02 10:25:04 AM
"Republican governor Phil Bryant has said on a number of occasions that he doesn't want abortions carried out in the state.
"If it closes that clinic, then so be it," Bryant said in April as he signed the new requirements into law.
"

Clearly Phil thinks he's figured out his cunning plan. I wonder (if the reprieve expires and this goes through) how many "back alley" places will pop up... If this is the only currently legal one, I'd bet there are already a few. But forcing abortion into the shadows isn't even a little going to stop it.
I wonder how much more treating the poor women who get botched ones is going to cost the state?
 
2012-07-02 10:58:23 AM
I'm pretty sure that they want slavery to be legal in the state, so that would be pre-1870's, subby.
 
2012-07-02 10:58:46 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-07-02 11:00:08 AM
#1 Wouldn't that be a huge cultural leap forward for them?
#2 What war on women?
 
2012-07-02 11:00:10 AM

sno man: "Republican governor Phil Bryant has said on a number of occasions that he doesn't want abortions carried out in the state.
"If it closes that clinic, then so be it," Bryant said in April as he signed the new requirements into law."

Clearly Phil thinks he's figured out his cunning plan. I wonder (if the reprieve expires and this goes through) how many "back alley" places will pop up... If this is the only currently legal one, I'd bet there are already a few. But forcing abortion into the shadows isn't even a little going to stop it.
I wonder how much more treating the poor women who get botched ones is going to cost the state?


My grandfather was a doctor and taught in a medical college for decades. He was pro-choice purely for pragmatic reasons. He saw the damage women do to themselves trying to perform home abortions or going to those back-early places, and they are horrible. While abortion isn't a pleasant thing, making it illegal will only make it more dangerous, and won't eliminate it.
 
2012-07-02 11:00:21 AM
Well, at least its not the 1970s.
 
2012-07-02 11:01:37 AM
Roe vs Wade was not the beginning of women having abortions. It was the end of women dying from abortions.
 
2012-07-02 11:02:42 AM

Bloody William: sno man: "Republican governor Phil Bryant has said on a number of occasions that he doesn't want abortions carried out in the state.
"If it closes that clinic, then so be it," Bryant said in April as he signed the new requirements into law."

Clearly Phil thinks he's figured out his cunning plan. I wonder (if the reprieve expires and this goes through) how many "back alley" places will pop up... If this is the only currently legal one, I'd bet there are already a few. But forcing abortion into the shadows isn't even a little going to stop it.
I wonder how much more treating the poor women who get botched ones is going to cost the state?

My grandfather was a doctor and taught in a medical college for decades. He was pro-choice purely for pragmatic reasons. He saw the damage women do to themselves trying to perform home abortions or going to those back-early places, and they are horrible. While abortion isn't a pleasant thing, making it illegal will only make it more dangerous, and won't eliminate it.


And preventing people from using birth control on the off-chance that it will stop a fertilized egg from implanting (never mind that half of fertilized eggs don't implant) will make it more prevalent as well. Yet that seems to be the main strategy of the GOP today.
 
2012-07-02 11:04:09 AM
I have always thought they don't believe in evolution as it has not happened there.
 
2012-07-02 11:04:21 AM
Women should go back to squirting bleach into themselves after they got Raped by their Uncle, like God intended
 
2012-07-02 11:04:41 AM

sno man: "Republican governor Phil Bryant has said on a number of occasions that he doesn't want abortions carried out in the state.
"If it closes that clinic, then so be it," Bryant said in April as he signed the new requirements into law."

Clearly Phil thinks he's figured out his cunning plan. I wonder (if the reprieve expires and this goes through) how many "back alley" places will pop up... If this is the only currently legal one, I'd bet there are already a few. But forcing abortion into the shadows isn't even a little going to stop it.
I wonder how much more treating the poor women who get botched ones is going to cost the state?


First, research what those costs are (health care, loss of work-time, etc).
Then, add up all those costs.
Next, submit your findings for peer-review (respected publications/institutes only. No "Kansas Institute of Bob's Religious Whackaloonery").
After that, publish your research in that same peer-reviewed publication.
Finally, testify before the Legislature, providing your research, notes, citations, supplemental research, as well as peer-review notes and their suggested edits.

And the Legislature will ignore it. Because Jesus.
 
2012-07-02 11:04:57 AM

Demetrius: Returning to the 1870's would actually be a step forward for Mississippi.


Maybe they can borrow the President's confrabulous contraption..

abduzeedo.com
 
2012-07-02 11:06:37 AM
static.guim.co.uk

Until that little bastard needs nutrition or other care the mother can't provide. Fark that.
 
2012-07-02 11:07:51 AM
They are still revolting.
 
2012-07-02 11:08:30 AM
Yes, sir, the South is gonna change. Everything's gonna be put on electricity and run on a paying basis. Out with the old spiritual mumbo jumbo, the superstitions, and the backward ways. We're gonna see a brave new world where they run everybody a wire and hook us all up to a grid. Yes, sir, a veritable age of reason. Like the one they had in France. Not a moment too soon.
 
2012-07-02 11:08:47 AM

Bloody William: sno man: "Republican governor Phil Bryant has said on a number of occasions that he doesn't want abortions carried out in the state.
"If it closes that clinic, then so be it," Bryant said in April as he signed the new requirements into law."

Clearly Phil thinks he's figured out his cunning plan. I wonder (if the reprieve expires and this goes through) how many "back alley" places will pop up... If this is the only currently legal one, I'd bet there are already a few. But forcing abortion into the shadows isn't even a little going to stop it.
I wonder how much more treating the poor women who get botched ones is going to cost the state?

My grandfather was a doctor and taught in a medical college for decades. He was pro-choice purely for pragmatic reasons. He saw the damage women do to themselves trying to perform home abortions or going to those back-early places, and they are horrible. While abortion isn't a pleasant thing, making it illegal will only make it more dangerous, and won't eliminate it.


Well, lucky for us these people at least support sex education and readily available birth control! I mean, the fact that there are so many options to prevent unwanted pregnancies has guaranteed that these good people are in the streets, protecting the unborn and the health of mothers everywhere!
 
2012-07-02 11:09:51 AM
You think that somewhere along the way the people of Mississippi would look around and be like "there are zero meaningful jobs here, we are poor as hell, and absolutely nobody wants to live here. Maybe we should change things up and be a little more like other more successful states?"
 
2012-07-02 11:11:10 AM
static.guim.co.uk

...except if it needs healthcare because Obamacare is evil, or food because food stamps are evil, or housing because HUD and home loan programs are evil,or clean water and air because industry regulation is evil....

But, yea, unless your baby needs food, water, medicine or shelter, conservatives are all for helping you out.
 
2012-07-02 11:11:15 AM
I say we go back to the 1860s and let 'em farking secede this time.

They'll be a third-world country the next day, while us "coastal liberal elitists" will get to move forward into the 21st century with single-payer healthcare, high speed rail, separation of church and state, and full rights for women and LGBT people.

www.andreaharner.com
 
2012-07-02 11:11:28 AM

born_yesterday: Well, lucky for us these people at least support sex education and readily available birth control! I mean, the fact that there are so many options to prevent unwanted pregnancies has guaranteed that these good people are in the streets, protecting the unborn and the health of mothers everywhere!


If your Fark handle is intentional, that was very well-played.
 
2012-07-02 11:11:35 AM

dickfreckle: [static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]

Until that little bastard needs nutrition or other care the mother can't provide. Fark that.


I love that "pro-life" people adamantly refuse to give pregnant women prenatal care even though there are mountains of evidence that kids are already getting screwed for the rest of their life even when they are still in utero.
 
2012-07-02 11:11:41 AM
Can we just get rid of the south already? Right at the Mason-Dixon line. Let their free market ideals run wild and sell them off to the highest bidder.
 
2012-07-02 11:12:03 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: [static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]

...except if it needs healthcare because Obamacare is evil, or food because food stamps are evil, or housing because HUD and home loan programs are evil,or clean water and air because industry regulation is evil....

But, yea, unless your baby needs food, water, medicine or shelter, conservatives are all for helping you out.


Oh, and if you need help, you'll still have to pee in a cup just to prove your child deserves to eat.
 
2012-07-02 11:12:20 AM
i165.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-02 11:14:38 AM

Bloody William: Oh, and if you need help, you'll still have to pee in a cup just to prove your child deserves to eat.


Yea, well, if you were more boostrappy you wouldna had one o' them babies what needs food and water.
 
2012-07-02 11:15:34 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Bloody William: Oh, and if you need help, you'll still have to pee in a cup just to prove your child deserves to eat.

Yea, well, if you were more boostrappy you wouldna had one o' them babies what needs food and water.


People can have babies that don't need food and water? What the hell? Have my teachers been lying to me all these years?
 
2012-07-02 11:16:31 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: ...except if it needs healthcare because Obamacare is evil, or food because food stamps are evil, or housing because HUD and home loan programs are evil,or clean water and air because industry regulation is evil....

But, yea, unless your baby needs food, water, medicine or shelter, conservatives are all for helping you out.


Pro birth, not prolife.
 
2012-07-02 11:17:17 AM

Serious Black: Vegan Meat Popsicle: Bloody William: Oh, and if you need help, you'll still have to pee in a cup just to prove your child deserves to eat.

Yea, well, if you were more boostrappy you wouldna had one o' them babies what needs food and water.

People can have babies that don't need food and water? What the hell? Have my teachers been lying to me all these years?


Children can survive on Jesus and rugged individualism for weeks. Trufax.
 
2012-07-02 11:20:55 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Roe vs Wade was not the beginning of women having abortions. It was the end of women dying from abortions.


Can someone please explain to me how the Supreme Court determined in Roe v. Wade that any woman has a right to an abortion, but states (read "the GOP") can make abortion illegal with political gymnastics where in they ADMIT that their purpose is to stop abortion.

I mean, it's not like they are even pretending thy give a fark about the woman's health anymore.
 
2012-07-02 11:21:50 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Roe vs Wade was not the beginning of women having abortions. It was the end of women dying from abortions.


You say that as if saying that would make the "pro-life" crowd any less in favor of repealing Roe v Wade.

/they're not pro-life, they're anti-woman
 
2012-07-02 11:22:40 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: Roe vs Wade was not the beginning of women having abortions. It was the end of women dying from abortions.

 
2012-07-02 11:22:58 AM
static.guim.co.uk
Shouldn't Dale be patrolling the perimeter for walkers?
 
2012-07-02 11:23:01 AM

NeverDrunk23: Vegan Meat Popsicle: ...except if it needs healthcare because Obamacare is evil, or food because food stamps are evil, or housing because HUD and home loan programs are evil,or clean water and air because industry regulation is evil....

But, yea, unless your baby needs food, water, medicine or shelter, conservatives are all for helping you out.

Pro birth, not prolife.


That's a great way to put it...you might even be able to go all the way and use pro-forced birth instead.
 
2012-07-02 11:23:09 AM
The kicker is that the so-called bible Belt states have the highest rates of child pregnancy and out of wedlock births.

I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning.
 
2012-07-02 11:23:56 AM

Serious Black: And preventing people from using birth control on the off-chance that it will stop a fertilized egg from implanting (never mind that half of fertilized eggs don't implant) will make it more prevalent as well. Yet that seems to be the main strategy of the GOP today.


No, no, no. Preventing legal abortion and people women from using birth control will punish loose women for their dirty, whorish, slutty McSlut-slut ways.

/saw the face of Jesus in my toast this morning!
 
2012-07-02 11:24:01 AM
The war on women is being funded by the for-profit prison industry and the military-industrial complex. Without easy access to birth control and abortions, there will be many, many more poor and unwanted children, which means, as things generally turn out, more criminals and more people with no way out of the poor neighborhoods other than the military.

Congratulations, women! Thanks to Republican Christians, you are being turned into spawn points for the cogs in the great machines of industry. Sexual freedom was fun while it lasted.

/wish I was making this up.
 
2012-07-02 11:24:09 AM

EyeballKid: [static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]
Shouldn't Dale be patrolling the perimeter for walkers?


He's clearly busy forcing his views on pe... wait a minute...
 
2012-07-02 11:24:15 AM
Ah yes, the small government Republicans dictating not only reproductive freedoms, but also how doctors choose to practice medicine. "You wanna provide abortions, you need admitting privileges or your patients lose your services". And I thought "Obamacare" was the piece of legislation that was supposed to separate patients from their doctors.
/Assholes
//All of them
 
2012-07-02 11:24:44 AM
Abortion is a problem? WTF? According to scientists, about half of all pregnancies end in miscarriage (god sure loves killing babies!). Childbirth has actually killed far more women and infants than cancer.

Your god is imaginary- no intelligent creature could even possibly be so evil.
 
2012-07-02 11:25:22 AM

RedT: Dusk-You-n-Me: Roe vs Wade was not the beginning of women having abortions. It was the end of women dying from abortions.

Can someone please explain to me how the Supreme Court determined in Roe v. Wade that any woman has a right to an abortion, but states (read "the GOP") can make abortion illegal with political gymnastics where in they ADMIT that their purpose is to stop abortion.

I mean, it's not like they are even pretending thy give a fark about the woman's health anymore.


It only has to be legal to get an abortion. It doesn't have to be easy. Or even only slightly difficult. As long as it is technically possible, they're okay. That's pretty terrible, but that's about the size of it.

And you're right, they don't give a fark.
 
2012-07-02 11:26:13 AM
I'm packing my carpetbags!
 
2012-07-02 11:26:36 AM

DubyaHater: Ah yes, the small government Republicans dictating not only reproductive freedoms, but also how doctors choose to practice medicine. "You wanna provide abortions, you need admitting privileges or your patients lose your services". And I thought "Obamacare" was the piece of legislation that was supposed to separate patients from their doctors.
/Assholes
//All of them


But that's state tyranny. Federal tyranny is the bad one.
 
2012-07-02 11:30:36 AM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: It only has to be legal to get an abortion. It doesn't have to be easy. Or even only slightly difficult. As long as it is technically possible, they're okay. That's pretty terrible, but that's about the size of it.


Which is why "Safe, legal, and rare" is the worst "slogan" ever pinned to abortion (thanks, Clinton administration).

If you start from that slogan, you're already starting the argument from the RW POV. If you agree abortion should be rare, then why not make it more difficult for women to get an abortion. After all, it's still legal! How can you lefties possibly be opposed to these restrictions?!

Horrible.
 
2012-07-02 11:30:45 AM

RedT: Dusk-You-n-Me: Roe vs Wade was not the beginning of women having abortions. It was the end of women dying from abortions.

Can someone please explain to me how the Supreme Court determined in Roe v. Wade that any woman has a right to an abortion, but states (read "the GOP") can make abortion illegal with political gymnastics where in they ADMIT that their purpose is to stop abortion.

I mean, it's not like they are even pretending thy give a fark about the woman's health anymore.


There's always an exception for compelling state interests, and the makeup of the courts has shifted drastically to the right since Roe was decided.
 
2012-07-02 11:32:16 AM

RedT: Can someone please explain to me how the Supreme Court determined in Roe v. Wade that any woman has a right to an abortion, but states (read "the GOP") can make abortion illegal with political gymnastics where in they ADMIT that their purpose is to stop abortion.


That's the reason for the injunction. The new law is ostensibly for health reasons, but the people behind the law have admitted on multiple occasions that banning abortion is the real purpose. The lawyer just showed all these quotes to the judge, and the law is on hold.

The pro-lifers probably assumed that as long as the law was disguised as a public health issue on paper, then it would be legal, even if they blabbed all day about how it was a huge fake-out.
 
2012-07-02 11:32:51 AM

cubic_spleen: The war on women is being funded by the for-profit prison industry and the military-industrial complex. Without easy access to birth control and abortions, there will be many, many more poor and unwanted children, which means, as things generally turn out, more criminals and more people with no way out of the poor neighborhoods other than the military.

Congratulations, women! Thanks to Republican Christians, you are being turned into spawn points for the cogs in the great machines of industry. Sexual freedom was fun while it lasted.

/wish I was making this up.


The ol' Soylent Green argument. A classic.
 
2012-07-02 11:34:43 AM

Jake Havechek: The kicker is that the so-called bible Belt states have the highest rates of child pregnancy and out of wedlock births.

I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning.


To be fair, that's not at all hypocritical. You would expect lots of young out-of-wedlock mothers in a state with less access to abortion. I would claim that this is a bad thing for everyone involved, but Mississippi's strategy for moving out of 50th place among states is giving lots of high schoolers babies.
 
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