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(KOB4)   Woman sees dog locked in a car in the hot sun. After getting the runaround from 911 and 311, 40 minutes later smashes the car window. Owner shows up and A) files charges against the lady B) has the dog attack the lady C) thanks her   (kob.com) divider line 147
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2012-07-02 10:19:49 AM
Swiss Colony: You know, I'm not going to argue that as I am being quite belligerent this morning. I believe I've made some enemies on the BBC boards too. I'm not going to claim to be a troll, I'm not, I'm just being an arse.

Considering that it is unlikely you would speak to people in person as rudely as you do from your keyboard, who is really the ITG here?
 
2012-07-02 10:19:57 AM
Cold_Sassy: Swiss Colony

If you think somebody is being an "internet tough guy" for saving the life of a helpless being (which I might add was caused by another genius of the human race) then I guess that makes you an internet p*ssy.

/What is wrong with the HTML buttons today?


Please read my posts and understand them before calling me a pussy.

Thanks.
 
2012-07-02 10:30:52 AM
KrispyKritter: Why I hate PETA:
Stuff.


A better reason to hate PETA:

They're an insane organization that glorifies the killing of pet animals as a method of 'saving' them from 'enslavement.' They are batshiat attention whores who need validation so badly that they damage the credibility of the animal rights movement by doing things like having volunteers dress up like KKK members outside of a dog show... for some reason that was never quite made clear. They care more about getting attention and getting donations than they ever have about animal rights.

You want to support an organization, find a local pet shelter and put your weight behind them. They always need donations, be it money, food, gear, and they always need volunteers.

Old Man Winter: No, Dog, call Para-Medic...

This cracked me up.
 
2012-07-02 10:40:26 AM
Salt Lick Steady: Stoj: I'd use a baby to smash through a window to save a dog.

With those big heads, they're practically begging to be used as hammers.


I did a spit take on that one. Oh Salt Lick, you have brightened many a morning of mine.
 
2012-07-02 10:43:50 AM
call 911/animal control. Break window immediately after and then clear the area quickly.
 
2012-07-02 10:58:36 AM
I think the bigger issue is there is still someone using the club.
 
2012-07-02 10:59:09 AM
spawn73: Cyclometh: If I run across an animal in a parked car on a hot day, I'm not going to check local ordinances. I also won't be spending 40 minutes trying to find your neglectful ass. You want to biatch about it, we can have that conversation in court. I'm sure it'd be quite entertaining to watch someone try to explain why their window is more important than the animal's life.

Because it's a farking animal.


Really? Fark you so much.
 
2012-07-02 11:03:53 AM
Oh f*ck that. I loathe busybodies and I am real surprised that in ABQ this turned out as peaceful as it did. Small dogs frequently yelp and paw at doors and windows, they frequently have separation anxiety.
How was this 'rescuer' to know this wasn't the dog's normal behavior?
She should have been charged with breaking and entering and had to pay for the window.

/has dogs
//takes them in the car
 
2012-07-02 11:04:08 AM
Leave your farking dog at home on a hot day even more so when you are going to the doctor and not to a park or some place for the dog. Dumbarse people that take their dogs with them to the store should be shot. I just love parking and or loading my car and getting barked at the whole time.
 
2012-07-02 11:05:58 AM
bearcats1983: I usually don't leave our puppy in the car alone, mainly for this reason. I understand being concerned about a dog's welfare, but I don't think someone has the right to smash my window if he's been in the car for a few minutes.

Additionally, last time I left him alone, it was for about 30 seconds while I ran into a gas station. He ate an entire baggie full of treats during that time. I couldn't get mad at him, it was actually pretty impressive.


I had a dog eat 2 pounds of still frozen hamburger once. Same result, couldn't really be mad. Wondered if he got brain freeze.
 
2012-07-02 11:09:58 AM
Submitted First With a Better Headline: KrispyKritter: Why I hate PETA:
Stuff.

A better reason to hate PETA:

They're an insane organization that glorifies the killing of pet animals as a method of 'saving' them from 'enslavement.' They are batshiat attention whores who need validation so badly that they damage the credibility of the animal rights movement by doing things like having volunteers dress up like KKK members outside of a dog show... for some reason that was never quite made clear. They care more about getting attention and getting donations than they ever have about animal rights.

You want to support an organization, find a local pet shelter and put your weight behind them. They always need donations, be it money, food, gear, and they always need volunteers.

Old Man Winter: No, Dog, call Para-Medic...

This cracked me up.


MADD is a very similar organization to PETA.
 
2012-07-02 11:11:45 AM
She told the judge she was taking her 98-year-old mother to the doctor...

That would make her...old. Everyone here is too old to be in charge of anything living.
 
2012-07-02 11:16:31 AM
kiwimoogle84: NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!:

To some people, their dogs ARE their children.

Those people are completely retarded. Sorry, but having a dog is NOTHING like having a human child. I don't care what those people "believe" (i.e., that their dog IS their child). Um, no, no it's not. And nothing in their land of make believe can make it so.

/irks the shiat out of me when people who have never had a child compare dogs to children
//stop it
 
2012-07-02 11:19:21 AM
mytdawg: bearcats1983: I usually don't leave our puppy in the car alone, mainly for this reason. I understand being concerned about a dog's welfare, but I don't think someone has the right to smash my window if he's been in the car for a few minutes.

Additionally, last time I left him alone, it was for about 30 seconds while I ran into a gas station. He ate an entire baggie full of treats during that time. I couldn't get mad at him, it was actually pretty impressive.

I had a dog eat 2 pounds of still frozen hamburger once. Same result, couldn't really be mad. Wondered if he got brain freeze.

Friends of mine dog sit for me quite often.
They take their dog everywhere so mine would go along with.
First time was 1/4 of a loaf of French bread.
Second time was smoked salmon.
She's not invited to go grocery shopping anymore.
 
2012-07-02 11:22:12 AM
Busybodies. Go get a hobby--anything to help you mind your own business.
 
2012-07-02 11:22:45 AM
First thing I thought of

i29.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-02 11:30:21 AM
Salt Lick Steady: gte269: This is why I never take my dog with me anywhere. Because tards like u on here would turn me in and break my windows if I go buy a pack of gum at a gas station on a 70 degree day

I don't take my girl with me because she gets farty in the car.


I don't take my girl with me because she gets violently ill in the car.
 
2012-07-02 11:31:28 AM
URAPNIS: mytdawg: bearcats1983: I usually don't leave our puppy in the car alone, mainly for this reason. I understand being concerned about a dog's welfare, but I don't think someone has the right to smash my window if he's been in the car for a few minutes.

Additionally, last time I left him alone, it was for about 30 seconds while I ran into a gas station. He ate an entire baggie full of treats during that time. I couldn't get mad at him, it was actually pretty impressive.

I had a dog eat 2 pounds of still frozen hamburger once. Same result, couldn't really be mad. Wondered if he got brain freeze.
Friends of mine dog sit for me quite often.
They take their dog everywhere so mine would go along with.
First time was 1/4 of a loaf of French bread.
Second time was smoked salmon.
She's not invited to go grocery shopping anymore.


We had one that ate an entire rack of lamb. Pretty amazing what they can gobble down in short order.
 
2012-07-02 11:35:47 AM
Nogale: NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: Nogale: Swiss Colony: Wow, lot of tough guys in this thread. 'Look at me, if I see a dog in a car I'll break the window, I don't care for the consequences, I'm biatchin'. What, you all want a farking medal?

Nice to see the lady who left the dog actually taking responsibility for her actions. In the litigious US you'd normally expect her to sue for the damage. After all legaly she has the right.

Just last week, there was a case here (and we have hot summers, believe me) of passers-by seeing a year-old baby locked in a completely closed car. They broke the window and got the baby out, then called an ambulance. Fortunately, they were in time and the kid wasn't badly hurt. Would you suggest leaving a baby in a locked car on a hot day because the owner might sue?

Baby. Dog. I'll give your a few minutes to see if you can figure out the difference between the two in the eyes of the law.

I'll give your [sic] a few minutes to figure out how the case would actually go in court.


The person who broke the window to save the dog would be liable for the damages. The person who left the dog in the car might (depending on local ordnance) get a ticket. Not terribly likely that there would be anything beyond a misdemeanor for the window breaker.
 
2012-07-02 11:42:40 AM
mytdawg: Submitted First With a Better Headline: KrispyKritter: Why I hate PETA:
Stuff.

A better reason to hate PETA:

They're an insane organization that glorifies the killing of pet animals as a method of 'saving' them from 'enslavement.' They are batshiat attention whores who need validation so badly that they damage the credibility of the animal rights movement by doing things like having volunteers dress up like KKK members outside of a dog show... for some reason that was never quite made clear. They care more about getting attention and getting donations than they ever have about animal rights.

You want to support an organization, find a local pet shelter and put your weight behind them. They always need donations, be it money, food, gear, and they always need volunteers.

Old Man Winter: No, Dog, call Para-Medic...

This cracked me up.

MADD is a very similar organization to PETA.


HSUS is the new PETA

/and isn't the same as your local Humane Society
 
2012-07-02 11:56:55 AM
Liz Lemon: /irks the shiat out of me when people who have never had a child compare dogs to children

What about when people who have had children compare their dogs to them? My mom likens hers to toddlers: can't feed themselves (unless they're cleverly naughty and get into something), can't take themselves to the potty (indoor dogs), can't wander the world unattended, have to be watched to ensure they don't endanger themselves by playing with the wrong thing... completely dependent on their adult parents.

AbbeySomeone: Small dogs frequently yelp and paw at doors and windows, they frequently have separation anxiety.
How was this 'rescuer' to know this wasn't the dog's normal behavior?

She says she waited 40 minutes before busting open the window. And "sunlight can heat car interiors to lethal temperatures in just 30 minutes, even if the weather is relatively cool. ...keeping the windows open a crack hardly slowed the rise at all."
 
2012-07-02 11:58:21 AM
spawn73: Cyclometh: If I run across an animal in a parked car on a hot day, I'm not going to check local ordinances. I also won't be spending 40 minutes trying to find your neglectful ass. You want to biatch about it, we can have that conversation in court. I'm sure it'd be quite entertaining to watch someone try to explain why their window is more important than the animal's life.

Because it's a farking animal.


THIS.
 
2012-07-02 12:03:27 PM
Ray_Peranus: spawn73: Cyclometh: If I run across an animal in a parked car on a hot day, I'm not going to check local ordinances. I also won't be spending 40 minutes trying to find your neglectful ass. You want to biatch about it, we can have that conversation in court. I'm sure it'd be quite entertaining to watch someone try to explain why their window is more important than the animal's life.

Because it's a farking animal.

THIS.


Well, I'm sure the court will love to hear the justification for placing greater value on inanimate objects over an animal's life. Maybe we can get a few of those pesky ant-cruelty laws overturned too.

Nothing shows a person's character better than how they treat animals.
 
2012-07-02 12:04:35 PM
Ray_Peranus: spawn73: Cyclometh: If I run across an animal in a parked car on a hot day, I'm not going to check local ordinances. I also won't be spending 40 minutes trying to find your neglectful ass. You want to biatch about it, we can have that conversation in court. I'm sure it'd be quite entertaining to watch someone try to explain why their window is more important than the animal's life.

Because it's a farking animal.

THIS.


What is with you freaks who would rather see a pet cook to death than break a stupid car window that the insurance company will replace anyway.
 
2012-07-02 12:06:27 PM
Cyclometh: Ray_Peranus: spawn73: Cyclometh: If I run across an animal in a parked car on a hot day, I'm not going to check local ordinances. I also won't be spending 40 minutes trying to find your neglectful ass. You want to biatch about it, we can have that conversation in court. I'm sure it'd be quite entertaining to watch someone try to explain why their window is more important than the animal's life.

Because it's a farking animal.

THIS.

Well, I'm sure the court will love to hear the justification for placing greater value on inanimate objects over an animal's life. Maybe we can get a few of those pesky ant-cruelty laws overturned too.

Nothing shows a person's character better than how they treat animals.


We eat them
 
2012-07-02 12:19:28 PM
kiwimoogle84: Salt Lick Steady: Stoj: I'd use a baby to smash through a window to save a dog.

With those big heads, they're practically begging to be used as hammers.

I did a spit take on that one. Oh Salt Lick, you have brightened many a morning of mine.


I aim to please, offend, and smash.
 
2012-07-02 12:33:47 PM
I only take the dog with me on short trips, gas station, to get take out, if im just running in somewhere for one thing. She farking loves car rides, its usually the highlight of her day. Unless theres some shiat she could roll in or something. When i do leave her, i leave the windows all the way down, but i hook her leash on the armrest, just because she probably would jump out and go exploring. But i dont take her if im gonna be gone for more than a few minutes, like grocery shopping or target.

Although just yesterday, target parking lot, my fiancee freaked out because someone had left a dog in their car.It was 90 degrees out, but all the windows were down and the dog looked happy.
 
2012-07-02 12:42:47 PM
cheap_thoughts: Officers only have that right? Well I don't give a fark if I don't, I'm going after that window and then take up a collection if I get charges!

Some local group actually made laws limiting individual rights and reserving those rights for "officials".
We must have a jobless lawyer out there willing to feed them their hats.

/stupid nannys
//not the type to "just walk on by" and never will be and KNOW you are responsible for what you do not do
 
2012-07-02 12:43:06 PM
You people are getting way too bent out of shape over an animal. Sad if the animal dies? Sure.

You still don't have the right to vandalize other people's property. I'd have the woman brought up on charges. Mind your own life.
 
2012-07-02 01:09:19 PM
Cyno01: She farking loves car rides, its usually the highlight of her day. Unless theres some shiat she could roll in or something.

What a white and brown dog might look like from time to time.

i108.photobucket.com

The smell was just putrid.
 
2012-07-02 01:12:17 PM
HellRaisingHoosier: You people are getting way too bent out of shape over an animal. Sad if the animal dies? Sure.

You still don't have the right to vandalize other people's property. I'd have the woman brought up on charges. Mind your own life.


HellRaisingHoosier: You people are getting way too bent out of shape over an animal. Sad if the animal dies? Sure.

You still don't have the right to vandalize other people's property. I'd have the woman brought up on charges. Mind your own life.


So, someone may have saved you from animal cruelty charges, and you respond by suing them? Biting the hand that feeds, indeed.

According to the law, you're responsible for your pets wellbeing, and if you fail to take even basic steps to protect their life (Locking a dog in a car for forty minutes in June in the desert is a pretty big failure), you could be looking at felony animal neglect. A year in jail or a busybody knocking out a window. Your choice.
 
2012-07-02 01:21:13 PM
URAPNIS: Cyno01: She farking loves car rides, its usually the highlight of her day. Unless theres some shiat she could roll in or something.

What a white and brown dog might look like from time to time.

[i108.photobucket.com image 450x462]

The smell was just putrid.



Early morning walk, not paying much attention, look down, shes doing her carpet back scratch thing in a patch of grass... "What are you doi... ewwwwwwwwwwwww, what the fark is wrong with you, goddamnit, im gonna be late for class now."

a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net

Looks so innocent there... shes actually started responding to "you little shiat".
 
2012-07-02 01:52:33 PM
Breech Birth: You're heart was broke over a gull? Flying farkin' rats they are, or is it pigeons?

exiledonline.com

Ha! However interesting as the thought may be, it makes not one bit of difference to how you feel. If a gull were to walk in here right now, as I'm talking, would you greet it with a saucer of your delicious milk?
Probably not.
I didn't think so. You don't like them. You don't really know why you don't like them; all you know is you find them repulsive.


You'll save a dog, but not a bird? What's the criteria for when your compassion for animals ends?
 
2012-07-02 02:51:51 PM
cheap_thoughts: Officers only have that right? Well I don't give a fark if I don't, I'm going after that window and then take up a collection if I get charges!

Yeah, f*ck that shiat. And I know what I'd say in court on my own behalf:

"Your honor, I saw the dog dying in the car, and after half an hour Animal Services and the cops hadn't shown up. Since the people with the "right" to save that dog didn't have the time to do it, I figured I'd better save the dog. Wouldn't you?"
 
2012-07-02 02:52:51 PM
libranoelrose: [i.imgur.com image 640x365]

Love it! Your dog looks a lot like mine does.

sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2012-07-02 02:57:11 PM
cheap_thoughts: Officers only have that right? Well I don't give a fark if I don't, I'm going after that window and then take up a collection if I get charges!

That is not true. Everyone can claim justification. Justification is a legal concept which states "I broke the law, but it was far less injurious to break the law than it was for me to follow it." Justification cannot be used in a non-self-defense killing of another.

Anyways, stupid city ordinances cannot trump common law.
 
2012-07-02 03:06:22 PM
ChimbleySweep: Liz Lemon: /irks the shiat out of me when people who have never had a child compare dogs to children

What about when people who have had children compare their dogs to them? My mom likens hers to toddlers: can't feed themselves (unless they're cleverly naughty and get into something), can't take themselves to the potty (indoor dogs), can't wander the world unattended, have to be watched to ensure they don't endanger themselves by playing with the wrong thing... completely dependent on their adult parents.

Yeah, I see that comparison, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about people who think that dogs = people. They don't. And don't get me wrong, I love dogs. But a dog is not a person. Yes, they are dependent upon us when we keep them as pets, but they are animals, not people. Our dogs have a self feeder for food and water, along with a pet door. They also have a gated area to keep themselves safe when we are not home. That would never work with a child, well, because it would be a child, not an animal. They are different.
 
2012-07-02 03:13:12 PM
spawn73: Cyclometh: If I run across an animal in a parked car on a hot day, I'm not going to check local ordinances. I also won't be spending 40 minutes trying to find your neglectful ass. You want to biatch about it, we can have that conversation in court. I'm sure it'd be quite entertaining to watch someone try to explain why their window is more important than the animal's life.

Because it's a farking animal.


Wanna know why many people prefer animals over humans?

Take a look in the mirror.
 
2012-07-02 03:41:46 PM
gte269: This is why I never take my dog with me anywhere. Because tards like u on here would turn me in and break my windows if I go buy a pack of gum at a gas station on a 70 degree day

A woman got in my grill once when I came out of the grocery store, because I'd left my dog in the truck. I lock her in with the engine and A/C running if I need to run a quick errand. The car was quite chilly....you could feel the chill if you touched the windows. Dog was happy as a clam. My truck with the A/C on is a lot cooler than my hot, un-air-conditioned house. She loves car rides in the summer.

An aquaintance of mine who is a dog sitter and trainer had the police called on her when she went into a Burger King for lunch, leaving her dog in her van with the roof A/C running. She'd finished eating and left before the police showed up, but it sounds like the lady who'd called the cops was getting close to physically restraining her to compel her to stay until they'd arrived. Which would have been an actual crime, unlike leaving a dog in a van with the air conditioning running.

Moral: Do check a vehicle carefully before getting all medieval and Captain America on someone else's property to save a distressed pet or baby.
 
2012-07-02 03:50:23 PM
Salt Lick Steady: twomutts: Salt Lick Steady: Stoj: I'd use a baby to smash through a window to save a dog.

With those big heads, they're practically begging to be used as hammers.

You're forgetting about the soft spot, though. They hit the glass and just go "splush".

Huh. Know I'm thinking that maybe you could affix nails to their heads, and with the proper rope and enough g-force they would make a great mace. Even if it doesn't work, think of the comedy.

/think of the comedy


wish wish wish

/obscure?
//better not be
/really
 
2012-07-02 03:51:07 PM
halB: cheap_thoughts: Officers only have that right? Well I don't give a fark if I don't, I'm going after that window and then take up a collection if I get charges!

That is not true. Everyone can claim justification. Justification is a legal concept which states "I broke the law, but it was far less injurious to break the law than it was for me to follow it." Justification cannot be used in a non-self-defense killing of another.

Anyways, stupid city ordinances cannot trump common law.


That which is necessary is legal.
 
2012-07-02 04:18:51 PM
What about the 98-year old mother? Did Susanne leave her locked in her car with the window cracked for 40 minutes while she fussed over the dog?
 
2012-07-02 07:27:54 PM
kbotc: HellRaisingHoosier: You people are getting way too bent out of shape over an animal. Sad if the animal dies? Sure.

You still don't have the right to vandalize other people's property. I'd have the woman brought up on charges. Mind your own life.

HellRaisingHoosier: You people are getting way too bent out of shape over an animal. Sad if the animal dies? Sure.

You still don't have the right to vandalize other people's property. I'd have the woman brought up on charges. Mind your own life.

So, someone may have saved you from animal cruelty charges, and you respond by suing them? Biting the hand that feeds, indeed.

According to the law, you're responsible for your pets wellbeing, and if you fail to take even basic steps to protect their life (Locking a dog in a car for forty minutes in June in the desert is a pretty big failure), you could be looking at felony animal neglect. A year in jail or a busybody knocking out a window. Your choice.


No good deed goes unpunished.
Sort of a mantra these days.
 
2012-07-02 11:35:20 PM
RatMaster999: FTFA: "She told the judge she was taking her 98-year-old mother to the doctor and didn't realize the dog was in danger."

If you're this farking stupid, you need to be locked in a sealed car in the sun...


Sounds like a perfectly reasonable excuse to me. We don't know the full circumstances, perhaps she had the dog in the car (like a lot of my idiot friends always seem to) when her mother's emergency happened.

People come before animals, always. Double for family, Triple for moms.

/I like dogs, but I'd sacrifice every one on the planet for my family.
 
2012-07-02 11:59:16 PM
Cyclometh: If I run across an animal in a parked car on a hot day, I'm not going to check local ordinances. I also won't be spending 40 minutes trying to find your neglectful ass. You want to biatch about it, we can have that conversation in court. I'm sure it'd be quite entertaining to watch someone try to explain why their window is more important than the animal's life.

Same here, and fark anyone who feels otherwise.
 
2012-07-03 12:40:38 AM
Salt Lick Steady: //yeah yeah, why would you save a squirrel etc
///little bastard was cute


Squirrels are awesome, and fark anyone who feels otherwise.
 
2012-07-03 12:42:44 AM
RandomRandom: RatMaster999: FTFA: "She told the judge she was taking her 98-year-old mother to the doctor and didn't realize the dog was in danger."

If you're this farking stupid, you need to be locked in a sealed car in the sun...

Sounds like a perfectly reasonable excuse to me. We don't know the full circumstances, perhaps she had the dog in the car (like a lot of my idiot friends always seem to) when her mother's emergency happened.

People come before animals, always. Double for family, Triple for moms.

/I like dogs, but I'd sacrifice every one on the planet for my family.


Your own family, sure.

But random baby? Babies grow up to be people, and most people are dicks. Sure some dogs are too, but the percentage of dogs ive met who are dicks compared to people who are dicks is orders of magnitude smaller.

I mean worst case that dog could go on to bite somebody and get put down. Worst case for a baby? Next Hitler.
 
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