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(Spiegel)   'Miss Holocaust Survivor' beauty pageant held in Israel   (spiegel.de) divider line 22
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2012-07-02 01:12:47 AM  
9 votes:
how do you say "flogging a dead horse" in hebrew?

in other news, the Palestinians just held a 'Miss Gaza Survivor' pageant. But sadly the IDF showed up and shot to death all the entrants.
2012-07-02 01:08:57 AM  
5 votes:
And now in the "Most Tasteless Pageant" category, we have...
2012-07-02 11:51:35 AM  
2 votes:

liam76: wantingout: in other news, the Palestinians just held a 'Miss Gaza Survivor' pageant. But sadly the IDF showed up and shot to death all the entrants

You do realize that the population in Gaza is growing, so to compare it to the holocaust show either profound ignorance or dishonesty.


WFT? Did the Jewish population post-Holocaust fail to grow or something?
2012-07-02 10:02:41 AM  
2 votes:
liam76: wantingout: in other news, the Palestinians just held a 'Miss Gaza Survivor' pageant. But sadly the IDF showed up and shot to death all the entrants

You do realize that the population in Gaza is growing, so to compare it to the holocaust show either profound ignorance or dishonesty.


Oh you're right. So the fact the the Israelis treat the Gazans just like the Nazis treated the Jews is ok, because Gazans can keep popping out more kids than than the number of people that the IDF kills. Makes sense!
2012-07-02 09:18:12 AM  
2 votes:
Holocaust Reminder #45763849. Hitler's evil. We get it.

It still doesn't excuse what Israel does to Palestine, and it never will.
2012-07-02 02:56:17 AM  
2 votes:
Here's one I wish had survived. I read her book in the 70's when I was at the age she wrote it, and it still tears me up:
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She'd only be 83 now. But she died as a teenager in a Nazi death camp.

What a waste.
2012-07-03 04:20:03 AM  
1 votes:

liam76: Muslim arab Israelis citizens have the same rights as Jewish Israeli's, so not an apartheid.


Those rights are on paper only. Also, I notice you say "Israeli citizens." What about those in Gaza and the WB? What rights do they have? None.

The population of arab muslims (in Israel and in Palestine) is growing faster then the population of jews, so not cleansing.

The amount of land available to them is shrinking, so definitely cleansing.

You, continually lying about it, an anti-semite.

The only liar here is you. BTW:

i560.photobucket.com

Your petulant accusations of anti-semitism don't work any more. Israel is a racist state. Calling Israel (and it's idiot supporters) on it isn't racist.
2012-07-02 07:43:25 PM  
1 votes:

Porous Horace: Amos Quito:
They uprooted, isolated and concentrated the targeted groups, depriving them of liberty, property, means of livelihood and of life itself, all in the name of "security" and the betterment of the Reich.

Any of this sound familiar?

The US? Mongolians? Islamists?
Lots of people have done that.



Yeah, but we're only supposed to cry about the Jews that Hitler hit, right?

Porous Horace: Btw, are you happy now that people are playing with you?
Who's a good little shiat, eh? Who's a good little shiat? Want a cookie? They're halal!


cdn1.spiegel.de

"Poor Us! Whore Us!"

Innat right, Porous Horace
2012-07-02 07:31:41 PM  
1 votes:

liam76: Uncle Tractor: But then the world would turn against you the way it turned against Hitler and Milosevic. Even the US would have stopped supporting Israel. So instead, the zionists have settled for a slow apartheid / cleansing that takes place over decades. It won't last much longer though.

Muslim arab Israelis citizens have the same rights as Jewish Israeli's, so not an apartheid.

The population of arab muslims (in Israel and in Palestine) is growing faster then the population of jews, so not cleansing.

You, continually lying about it, an anti-semite.

Amos Quito: Your implication seems to be that the Palestinians are better of thanks to their brutal occupation under the Israelis.

Sounds like you're saying the Pallies should be grateful for the "comforts" with which the Zionist boot-heel has blessed them.

No?

No. The implication is that anyone who uses the language of the holocaust (claims of death camps, comparison of Israel to Nazi's, etc) is either ignorant or dishonest. Didn't say anything about "grateful".



I seem to recall that the Nazis sought to enforce the dominance of a single ethnic group over others, to expand their territory in the name of "living space" and manifest destiny, and rationalized their doing so by claiming that out-group members were inferior, subversive, of dubious loyalty, and that they posed a threat to state security.

They uprooted, isolated and concentrated the targeted groups, depriving them of liberty, property, means of livelihood and of life itself, all in the name of "security" and the betterment of the Reich.

Any of this sound familiar?
2012-07-02 07:20:55 PM  
1 votes:

Tatterdemalian: Amos Quito: Your implication seems to be that the Palestinians are better of thanks to their brutal occupation under the Israelis.

Sounds like you're saying the Pallies should be grateful for the "comforts" with which the Zionist boot-heel has blessed them.

No?

I'll say it if he won't: the Palestinians are provably better off under an Israeli democracy than under an Islamic theocracy.



Okay then, prove it.

And remember, we're not just talking about the small number of Palestinians that live in "Israel proper", but those that live in Gaza, the West Bank and the various concentration refugee camps that they were forced to flee to thanks to the invasion of the interloping European Jews.


media.komonews.com

BTW, I read that one of your favorite terrorists / former Prime Ministers died over the weekend.

My condolences.
2012-07-02 06:22:56 PM  
1 votes:

Amos Quito: liam76: The fact is that according to the UN HDI Palestenians, under Israel, did better than many of their arab neighbors.


Yeah, well, on the whole, it seems that the descendants of black slaves brought to the US have fared far better than their relatives who remained in Africa.

No?


[citation needed]

Africa is a whole entire continent, with many countries and peoples, btw.
2012-07-02 04:49:18 PM  
1 votes:

liam76: I didn't say they were benevolent, but the fact is the life of Palestenians under Israel control is better then when they were prior to the founding of Israel,


You know what the world was like prior to the founding of Israel? It was worse for pretty much everybody, and the further back you go, the worse it was.

and when gaza and the west bank were controlled by Egypt and Jordan.

Yeah, but they're not there any longer, so who cares?

So for you to compare their treatment to that of jews under Nazi's you are being dishonest.

No, I'm not. Remember, bot are instances of a dominant ethnicity trying to rid a land area of another ethnicity.

How else can you create a jewish homeland in an area where more than 90% of the population is arab?

Just as you are being dishonest with claims of this being despite "the best effort of Israel". If they wanted to they could wipe out Palestenians in a day or two,

But then the world would turn against you the way it turned against Hitler and Milosevic. Even the US would have stopped supporting Israel. So instead, the zionists have settled for a slow apartheid / cleansing that takes place over decades. It won't last much longer though.

of course you are too blinded by antisemetism to see that isn't what Israel wants.

...And that's why you have no right to talk about dishonesty.
2012-07-02 03:24:37 PM  
1 votes:

liam76: Amos Quito: liam76: The fact is that according to the UN HDI Palestenians, under Israel, did better than many of their arab neighbors.


Yeah, well, on the whole, it seems that the descendants of black slaves brought to the US have fared far better than their relatives who remained in Africa.

No?

Not sure how pointing out that the relationship between USA and African Americans really doesn't resemble the relationship between jews and Nazi's adds to the conversation, but I am sure you will find some way to twist that into proof that jews are evil.



Your implication seems to be that the Palestinians are better of thanks to their brutal occupation under the Israelis.

Sounds like you're saying the Pallies should be grateful for the "comforts" with which the Zionist boot-heel has blessed them.

No?
2012-07-02 01:56:21 PM  
1 votes:

liam76: So when Nazi's put Jews in ghettos do you think they have more access to hospitals and universities then they did previously? Did their life expectancy go up? Infant mortality go down? Literacy go up? Becasue all of those things have happened to the Palestenians since Israel took over,


...despite the best efforts of Israel, because isolating people in banthustans surrounded by hostile savages or inflicting an unending siege broken only by sporadic air raids is such a great way to reduce child mortality (etc).

The statistics you're mentioning say far more about the resilience of the palestinians than of the "benevolence" of the israeli occupation / land grab.

so to make that comparison you must be profoundly ignorant or dishonest.

Not words you should be using ...
2012-07-02 12:47:31 PM  
1 votes:

liam76: So when Nazi's put Jews in ghettos do you think they have more access to hospitals and universities then they did previously? Did their life expectancy go up? Infant mortality go down? Literacy go up? Becasue all of those things have happened to the Palestenians South African blacks since Israel the Afrikaaners took over, so to make that comparison you must be profoundly ignorant or dishonest.


FTFY
2012-07-02 11:24:50 AM  
1 votes:

chuckufarlie: The Israelis have starting gassing Gazans? When did that start?


You are aware that the gas chambers were only the "grand finale," right? It took the nazis over a decade to build up to the "final solution." The zionists are still at the "ghetto" stage.
2012-07-02 10:56:00 AM  
1 votes:
Oh come on the Jews are just trolling us now. Everybody knows there was no Holocaust, those 6 million people just stole the a Nazi space craft, took it to France and flew off to Alpha Centauri. Now some people could say the Nazis had it coming, considering they stole that ship from a bunch of Grey's on spring break leaving them stranded in Russia.

The Nazis invaded France trying to get that stolen space ship back and invaded Russia to see if those little Grey farkers had anymore ships they could steal. Anyway after the US kicked the Nazis ass they stole all the tech, sending it all to area 54 (area 51 is just a front to keep people looking in the wrong direction), but unfortunately a horrible accident killed all the Greys and we have been left to try and figure out this crap.
2012-07-02 10:05:04 AM  
1 votes:
What the winner might look like:

3.bp.blogspot.com

// Hot.
2012-07-02 04:30:05 AM  
1 votes:
shouldn't the irony tag have been used here because der spiegel is reporting it?
2012-07-02 02:01:51 AM  
1 votes:
The contest itself doesn't bother me too much. What does bother me is that they apparently told at least 286 Holocaust survivors that they weren't pretty enough to be allowed to share their stories with an audience.

Should have done a better job putting on the sunscreen when you were in those forced labor camps, ladies!
2012-07-02 01:26:20 AM  
1 votes:
wantingout,
how do you say "flogging a dead horse" in hebrew?
in other news, the Palestinians just held a 'Miss Gaza Survivor' pageant. But sadly the IDF showed up and shot to death all the entrants.


Give it a few more years, someone will try to do yet another redux of some 70's Shoah guilt exploitation featuring striped prisoner gear.

Forgetting the Sudan, Rwandan, Cambodia, Armenian Genocide, Bosnia, and other events in history I forgot about which might have one headliner film for each event and have been forgotten about.

/To those that survived it, I have the greatest respect for you.
2012-07-02 12:01:57 AM  
1 votes:
Cue the studmen talking about how her knees are too sharp and how they hate tattoos on women.
 
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