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(Deadline)   Our long nightmare is over: Rupert Murdoch has returned to Twitter and is lashing out at Scientology, Mitt Romney, and Tom Cruise   (deadline.com ) divider line
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2012-07-01 10:54:03 PM  

Mugato: altrocks: Mugato: Albert: WorldCitizen: Murdoch is in it for the money. He would burn the world down if it would make a profit for him.
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Right, unlike the guys who run CNN, NBC, ABC, and CBS. Twit.

None of those are as cartoonishly partisan as Fox News. Can you deny that?

I dunno, MSNBC is really REALLY close, just on the opposite end of the spectrum


I just don't see that. There are editorial pieces, which are useless and not worth watching on any network but Fox News lets its partisanship leak into what should be their objective news reporting. Even the graphics and the entire showmanship is something straight out of a Paul Verhoevan film. They don't even try to pretend differently at this point so I don't see how anyone can not see it.


Do you usually agree with most of what's said on MSNBC? Do you usually disagree with most of what's said on Fox News? That's how it happens. Just that for people who watch and believe Fox News, it's the reverse. Ask any Fox loyalist about the ridiculous coverage on MSNBC and they'll give you a list at least as long as the one most people have on Fox.

I tend to agree with most of what's said on MSNBC, so I got sucked into their little world of one-sided opinions for a while. I can see how the same thing happens to people who watch Fox and generally agree with their stuff. Personally, I don't like either because they focus too much on sensationalism and partisanship than they do on actual investigations and journalism.

If you want a specific example, look at how MSNBC and NBC in general handled the whole Treyvon Mertin shooting. That whole situation was one clusterfark after another and MSNBC made sure they threw a few extra in there with their tape editing. You think some tech in a sound studio decided to do that? Please. He was a scapegoat. MSNBC and NBC ran off that story for DAYS before anyone caught on to the editing. That is at LEAST as bad as Fox News tactics, regardless of which side of that issue you were invested in. It doesn't make Fox News any better, but it does make MSNBC quite a bit worse.

And anyone who doesn't see it.... *shrug*
 
2012-07-01 10:57:10 PM  
If he was MY Grandpa Rupert I'd have bowstrung his saggy ass
and buried him in a shallow grave in the Mojave Desert years ago.

Why aren't bastards like him being lined up against walls yet?

/real friends help you move...bodies
 
2012-07-01 11:21:39 PM  

altrocks: If you want a specific example, look at how MSNBC and NBC in general handled the whole Treyvon Mertin shooting. That whole situation was one clusterfark after another and MSNBC made sure they threw a few extra in there with their tape editing


I don't know what that sentence is supposed to mean but the Trevon Martin case, no matter how you think MSNBC spun it has nothing to do with national politics, which Fox News constantly abuses in favor of the right with no repercussions whatsoever. And the right has the balls to cry about the "liberal media". It's just annoying that they think we're even dumber than their followers.
 
2012-07-01 11:29:27 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: Murdoch probably wants Obama to stay in office so he can keep selling inflammatory trolling to wingnuts.


Yeah, but there was almost as much money in "Bush: Great president or greatest president?" They'll go back to inviting 'liberals' to speak be interrupted and shouted down. And he would have at least four years to distort Romney into looking more like Gen. Patton than the milquetoast he actually is. Maybe use modestly 'shopped photos showing him as muscular, with a flag behind him.

There's always a way to spin, regardless of who is in office.
 
2012-07-01 11:35:38 PM  

Mugato: altrocks: If you want a specific example, look at how MSNBC and NBC in general handled the whole Treyvon Mertin shooting. That whole situation was one clusterfark after another and MSNBC made sure they threw a few extra in there with their tape editing

I don't know what that sentence is supposed to mean but the Trevon Martin case, no matter how you think MSNBC spun it has nothing to do with national politics, which Fox News constantly abuses in favor of the right with no repercussions whatsoever. And the right has the balls to cry about the "liberal media". It's just annoying that they think we're even dumber than their followers.


That sentence means that MSNBC took a bad situation and made it worse, bringing about a good deal of outrage, nationally, over a supposedly racist/racially motivated incident that never happened. The slur they edited into the call was a technological fabrication and the techs who did it were fired for it. But I'm sure they didn't just do it for shiats and giggles. Someone told them to do it and they followed along and took the blame. But it sure got them major ratings for a while. It's shenanigans of the type used by Fox News all the time. Fox takes video and edits it to say the exact opposite of what was actually said. I don't care about the scope or target of the information being manipulated, I just care that both networks are willing to do it just to get some ratings and make the other side look bad.

Also, I'm kinda tired of hearing about Mitt Romney's dog getting sick on a car trip. I'm not heartless and I have 3 rescued dogs living with my family currently, but it's a non-farking-story that they keep harping on because it tugs at their viewers' heart-strings. It's emotional manipulation of the kind that Fox News does all the time, as well. There's no real difference between them outside of which side they're pandering for.

And as for no repercussions, what would you suggest? A national ban on lying on TV? SCOTUS just upheld the right to lie about having a Congressional MoH. I doubt they're going to say that it's okay to have a law saying you can't tell a lie on TV. The only real repercussions either network gets is when Jon Stewart skewers them with the truth behind their editing and everyone gets a brief glimpse into how ridiculous "news" has become on cable channels. Everyone laughs about it and then they go back to watching their preferred flavor and repeating the "truth" spewed at them 24x7.
 
2012-07-01 11:46:45 PM  

fireclown: Who is fark supposed to root for here?


The one who SPEAKS IN ALL CAPS.
 
2012-07-02 12:42:30 AM  

TheZorker: Funny. I was just thinking that's what it'd take for me to root for Rupert Murdoch.


This.
 
2012-07-02 12:46:08 AM  
It would be so awesome to see News Corp and Scientology fight to the death, sort of like Godzilla vs. Gamara or Dracula vs. Wolfman....

Either way a horrible monster would lose and a horrible monster would win!
 
2012-07-02 01:07:12 AM  

altrocks: I dunno, MSNBC is really REALLY close,


Just like how shooting a bullet is REALLY close to throwing one.
 
2012-07-02 01:33:14 AM  
I've been a Scientologist since 1975 and the creepiest thing I've ever done is post on Fark.
 
2012-07-02 02:04:38 AM  
Oh goodness, I don't know who to root for! I hope they both DIAF!

i275.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-02 02:08:34 AM  

altrocks: Mugato: Albert: WorldCitizen: Murdoch is in it for the money. He would burn the world down if it would make a profit for him.
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Right, unlike the guys who run CNN, NBC, ABC, and CBS. Twit.

None of those are as cartoonishly partisan as Fox News. Can you deny that?

I dunno, MSNBC is really REALLY close, just on the opposite end of the spectrum.



But they're not cartoonishly partisan about it. And by cartoonish, I mean Wile E Coyote, Super Genius levels of cartoonishly partisan.

For example, when MSNBC news reports about a scandal involving Democrats, they report those involved as Democrats. And when they report on a scandal involving Republicans, they identify them as Republicans.

But when Fox reports on a scandal involving Republicans, the first few hours of the the report will identify the person with (D-name), instead of saying (R-name). Once or twice, that could be someone not looking it up. But when it gets into double digits, it's policy.
 
2012-07-02 02:25:57 AM  
www.blackeconomicdevelopment.com
"All you people calling MSNBC liberal need to STFU!"
 
2012-07-02 03:27:16 AM  
I'd be delighted to see Mr. Murdoch get a burr under his saddle regarding Sigh-ahn-tology (don't want to be picked up by the group's Internet trawler).

It'd be like Godzilla vs. Mothra.
 
2012-07-02 10:42:43 AM  

scott88008: I've been a Scientologist since 1975 and the creepiest thing I've ever done is post on Fark.


Why are you a $cientologist?
 
2012-07-02 11:44:34 AM  

scott88008: I've been a Scientologist since 1975 and the creepiest thing I've ever done is post on Fark.


Sometimes that Scientologist, he looks right into ya. Right into your eyes. And, you know, the thing about a Scientologist... he's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes.
 
2012-07-02 12:42:28 PM  
altrocks:

I snipped it, but MSNBC at least mostly sticks to the facts. They're partisan facts, and they show the left in a good light, but they're at least true, generally speaking. I can't remember outright misinformation from MSNBC like 9/11 was caused by Saddam, or HCR is death panels, or global warming is not actually happening. That's the biggest difference to me.

So... yeah, they're all pretty much ridiculous. Their owners, however, are not as charismatic or public. ABC is Disney. CBS is Viacom. NBC is GE. CNN is TimeWarner.

GE sold off a majority of NBC to Comcast about 18 months ago. It was a pretty big deal at the time, but I would've forgotten if I hadn't been watching 30 Rock reruns.
 
2012-07-02 01:19:54 PM  

phyrkrakr: altrocks:

I snipped it, but MSNBC at least mostly sticks to the facts. They're partisan facts, and they show the left in a good light, but they're at least true, generally speaking. I can't remember outright misinformation from MSNBC like 9/11 was caused by Saddam, or HCR is death panels, or global warming is not actually happening. That's the biggest difference to me.

So... yeah, they're all pretty much ridiculous. Their owners, however, are not as charismatic or public. ABC is Disney. CBS is Viacom. NBC is GE. CNN is TimeWarner.

GE sold off a majority of NBC to Comcast about 18 months ago. It was a pretty big deal at the time, but I would've forgotten if I hadn't been watching 30 Rock reruns.


Comcast, GE, doesn't really matter. They both huge U.S. corporations, so my main point there stands.

And I don't know about MSNBC always giving facts. I'm not going to say that they're as blatant about it as Fox is, but I think they do the same things in different ways. For instance, MSNBC's immediate, and deafening, call of racism on anything even remotely possibly hinting at being a negative towards a minority. I'm not saying there aren't still problems with racism in this country, but to listen to MSNBC all day, you'd think we were one GOP senate seat away from reinstating slavery. To me that's as bad as telling people there will be death panels because it's just as farkin scary.

Or, my personal favorite, Rachel Maddow's harping on Michigan's emergency powers thing. I don't agree with what Michigan is doing at all. I think it's terrible and it should be completely undone. However, to hear her tell it, it's the death knell of democracy and the beginning of a new tyrannical kingdom, courtesy of the GOP. Same goes for Wisconsin's screwing around with the collective bargaining rights. I don't agree with it, in fact I think it's outright stupid and will probably lead to bloodshed if it goes on for too long. However, to hear MSNBC talk about it you would think that we're going back to the days of the Company Store and indentured servitude. It's the same fear-the-other-guys tactics that Fox uses, except it uses different fears on a different population. It's just as bad as Fox harping on illegal immigrants taking your job while those super-smart inner-city people scam the welfare system to get rich. It's a blatant lie made by taking a tiny particle of truth and putting it in the center of a bullshiat sandwich.

I think both networks are detestable for the same reasons and largely to the same degree. People who agree with one side or the other will fail to see half of my argument, over and over again, because they think their favorite brand of bullshiat is somehow better than the other guy's bullshiat.
 
2012-07-02 06:45:57 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: Murdoch probably wants Obama to stay in office so he can keep selling inflammatory trolling to wingnuts.


God, could you imagine that? It's possible. He's a real scorched-earth capitalist. No wonder he married a Chinese lady.
 
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