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2012-07-01 04:24:34 PM  
Batman to the rescue.. oh wait
 
2012-07-01 04:40:46 PM  
Probably to make sure she doesn't say anything bad about Tom Cruise or Scientology.
 
2012-07-01 04:45:35 PM  
This is not normal behavior.
She should have know they'd never let her get out alive.
 
2012-07-01 05:03:01 PM  

Bontesla: This is not normal behavior.
She should have know they'd never let her get out alive.


It's pretty standard when a high profile person falls out of the CoS's favor. They actually have trained teams called "Squirrel Busters" who follow them around to harass them.
 
2012-07-01 05:03:41 PM  
Eh, Scientologists are brainwashed cultists.


So, they are an average religion.

Don't think the Catholic church or Christianity or any other religious group wouldn't or couldn't pull the same underhanded, evil shiat Scientologists do.
 
2012-07-01 05:07:10 PM  

Sgt Otter: They actually have trained teams called "Squirrel Busters" who follow them around to harass them.


I'd visit a "Stand Your Ground" state with a team from Triple Canopy. Or just hire some freelancers. Not to kill them, really, but to scare the sh*t out of them and let them know someone professional is watching them as well.
 
2012-07-01 05:18:14 PM  
Fair Game.

Dead Agenting.

They're simply making sure that the divorce goes exactly the way that Tom and the CoS want it to go.

FirstNationalBastard: Don't think the Catholic church or Christianity or any other religious group wouldn't or couldn't pull the same underhanded, evil shiat Scientologists do.


Yeah, I don't think so. I'm not exactly pro-religion, but I would say that almost NONE of the other religions would, as a matter of active policy, engage in the evil that Scientology perpetrates on those who oppose it or attempt to leave it. And I'd say that anyone who claims otherwise simply hasn't looked into the CoS's history and activities enough.
 
2012-07-01 05:30:34 PM  

dahmers love zombie: Yeah, I don't think so. I'm not exactly pro-religion, but I would say that almost NONE of the other religions would, as a matter of active policy, engage in the evil that Scientology perpetrates on those who oppose it or attempt to leave it. And I'd say that anyone who claims otherwise simply hasn't looked into the CoS's history and activities enough.


I think it has to do with the size of the religion more than anything. Look at the Catholic church and kid diddling. Creepy shiat happens when it gets that big.
 
2012-07-01 05:38:18 PM  

dahmers love zombie: Yeah, I don't think so. I'm not exactly pro-religion, but I would say that almost NONE of the other religions would, as a matter of active policy, engage in the evil that Scientology perpetrates on those who oppose it or attempt to leave it. And I'd say that anyone who claims otherwise simply hasn't looked into the CoS's history and activities enough.


Mormons and Muslims come closest for today's monotheistic regions. Both cut off all contact with those who leave. Muslims tend to kill those who leave though.
 
2012-07-01 05:45:31 PM  
This does not appear to be the mind of a paranoid person. People who have photographed Katie multiple times tell TMZ there have been several "mysterious" men and vehicles around Katie's apartment and following her when she's out.

You mean, "mysterious" people following her OTHER than you guys who are following her in vehicles because she is famous?

/not that I don't believe that Scientology is tailing her.
//but, they are just another level worse than the paparazzi.
 
2012-07-01 05:45:51 PM  
Scientologists are following Katie Holmes around doing god Xenu knows what
 
2012-07-01 05:49:19 PM  

dahmers love zombie: Yeah, I don't think so. I'm not exactly pro-religion, but I would say that almost NONE of the other religions would, as a matter of active policy, engage in the evil that Scientology perpetrates on those who oppose it or attempt to leave it. And I'd say that anyone who claims otherwise simply hasn't looked into the CoS's history and activities enough.


Wouldn't today. But if you look into their history, the CoS's shenanigans are child's play by comparison. Unless you've got documentation of the CoS burning heretics alive.
 
2012-07-01 06:56:30 PM  

Bontesla: This is not normal behavior.
She should have know they'd never let her get out alive.


It's normal for scientologists.

I'm not gonna call 'em cultists, I'm just gonna call 'em asshats.
 
2012-07-01 07:03:44 PM  

GAT_00: dahmers love zombie: Yeah, I don't think so. I'm not exactly pro-religion, but I would say that almost NONE of the other religions would, as a matter of active policy, engage in the evil that Scientology perpetrates on those who oppose it or attempt to leave it. And I'd say that anyone who claims otherwise simply hasn't looked into the CoS's history and activities enough.

Mormons and Muslims come closest for today's monotheistic regions. Both cut off all contact with those who leave. Muslims tend to kill those who leave though.



I don't want to defend any religion. SOME of the Catholic Church protects pedophiles in their own ranks. SOME Muslims kill women and commit acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. But some people who follow those religions also do good. Scientologists won a legal battle to get their science fiction author (who really sucked as a writer, BTW) to get his bullshiat made into a religion and they actually charge for their followers to learn about their bullshiat. At least with Christianity and being a Muslim you can get that shiat for free.

Say what you want about George Lucas, it was suggested that he make his fiction into a religion and he told them to fark off. But Scientology, WTF?
 
2012-07-01 07:05:14 PM  
So, Scientology, you may have won THIS battle, but the million-year war for earth has just begun! Temporarily anozinizing KATIE HOLMES will NOT stop us from keeping Thetans forever trapped in your pitiful man-bodies. Curses and drat! You have obstructed us for now, but your feeble bid to save humanity will fail! Hail Xenu!!!

-Trey Parker and Matt Stone, servants of the dark lord Xenu.
 
2012-07-01 07:06:20 PM  
Methodists would never pull this shiat.
 
2012-07-01 07:12:36 PM  

Mugato: who really sucked as a writer, BTW


I actually kind of liked Battlefield Earth. If you've never read it, it's nothing as stupid as the movie. The second half is intergalactic banking. Seriously.

Mugato: SOME Muslims kill women and commit acts of terrorism in the name of their religion.


Yes, but quite a few of them support said actions. I'm not saying Christians aren't all kinds of terrible, especially given their propensity to condemn other religions, their claims of supporting freedom of religion, and then continuously try to turn the United States into a theocracy. But aside from Mormons, they don't tend to hound people when they leave the church.

So that's at least one positive thing about them.
 
2012-07-01 08:15:55 PM  

Mugato: GAT_00: dahmers love zombie: Yeah, I don't think so. I'm not exactly pro-religion, but I would say that almost NONE of the other religions would, as a matter of active policy, engage in the evil that Scientology perpetrates on those who oppose it or attempt to leave it. And I'd say that anyone who claims otherwise simply hasn't looked into the CoS's history and activities enough.

Mormons and Muslims come closest for today's monotheistic regions. Both cut off all contact with those who leave. Muslims tend to kill those who leave though.


I don't want to defend any religion. SOME of the Catholic Church protects pedophiles in their own ranks. SOME Muslims kill women and commit acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. But some people who follow those religions also do good. Scientologists won a legal battle to get their science fiction author (who really sucked as a writer, BTW) to get his bullshiat made into a religion and they actually charge for their followers to learn about their bullshiat. At least with Christianity and being a Muslim you can get that shiat for free.

Say what you want about George Lucas, it was suggested that he make his fiction into a religion and he told them to fark off. But Scientology, WTF?


I think this comes closest to my feelings. There are individual (present-day) occasions of seriously repellent, evil behavior by agents of the major religions (and acting on behalf of the church). But the typical Catholic, Protestant (of most franchises), or Muslim in this country can freely choose to disassociate themselves without suffering official "unpersonhood", being followed by investigators, having a "dirt" file compiled, etc. The same is not true of the typical Scientologist, and it's definitely not true of any Scientologist who might become a "problem" by leaving the CoS.
 
2012-07-01 08:44:06 PM  
Scientology's philosophy is "attack, never defend," which isn't a very good strategy if you've ever played any RTS games. Or maybe if they weren't so clumsy at it and always end up looking worse than if they said nothing at all.
 
2012-07-01 08:52:33 PM  
We put in a call to Scientology ... so far, no word back.

That statement amuses me.
 
2012-07-01 08:54:36 PM  
Yeah, but all those snarky TMZ photographers/stalkers who continue to follow her every move are ok.
 
2012-07-01 08:54:49 PM  
Creepy cult is creepy.

Run like Rinder, Katie!!
 
2012-07-01 08:56:17 PM  
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But with img0.fark.net reporting it = img1.fark.net
 
2012-07-01 08:56:28 PM  

StealthStalker: We put in a call to Scientology ... so far, no word back.

That statement amuses me.


But it's a refreshing change from "we reached out to..." I am SO sick of that!
 
2012-07-01 08:57:24 PM  
has put a team on her tail

Not the best choice of words.
 
2012-07-01 08:58:53 PM  
Not that I don't have sympathy, Katie, but shouldn't you have thought about this before you married that nutcase? Or at the very least, before you allowed sperm to meet egg?

That was my first thought when she came out with the baby bump. You're bringing a child into that crazy? Oh shiat, girl. Try to leave him now, and those freaks are going to take your baby, and god help you then.
 
2012-07-01 09:00:50 PM  
Solution: Nondescriptive goons after CoS goons?
 
2012-07-01 09:02:38 PM  
I'm guessing it'll take 100mil to keep her quiet..

I so hope she doesn't keep quiet.
 
2012-07-01 09:03:32 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: dahmers love zombie: Yeah, I don't think so. I'm not exactly pro-religion, but I would say that almost NONE of the other religions would, as a matter of active policy, engage in the evil that Scientology perpetrates on those who oppose it or attempt to leave it. And I'd say that anyone who claims otherwise simply hasn't looked into the CoS's history and activities enough.

Wouldn't today. But if you look into their history, the CoS's shenanigans are child's play by comparison. Unless you've got documentation of the CoS burning heretics alive.


The CoS has never been in a position of sufficient power to get away with burning heretics alive. They'd do it in a second if they could.
 
2012-07-01 09:06:21 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Solution: Nondescriptive goons after CoS goons?


maybe people following the goons anonymously
 
2012-07-01 09:06:50 PM  
Hey Katie, maybe it was a bad idea to ignore what was common knowledge about Tom Cruise and Scientology by the time you married him. You wanted the fame, money, and publicity of marrying into the Hollywood elite, well you got what you asked for
 
2012-07-01 09:09:36 PM  

Harry_Seldon: Hey Katie, maybe it was a bad idea to ignore what was common knowledge about Tom Cruise and Scientology by the time you married him. You wanted the fame, money, and publicity of marrying into the Hollywood elite, well you got what you asked for


Like my Gran used to say: marry for money, earn every penny.
 
2012-07-01 09:10:38 PM  

farkityfarker: has put a team on her tail

Not the best choice of words.


unit-pic.twittweb.com
/t'would tag team that tail
 
2012-07-01 09:12:25 PM  
I started reading this and the first thing that popped into my mind was that she is saying this to gain leverage in their divorce. But then I remember that this is Scientology we are talking about and this is about par for the course with them. So now I don't know what to believe.
 
2012-07-01 09:14:19 PM  
CSB - C is for creepy.

I had a neighbor downstairs who talked about how he was in the cult of scientology, recruited others and was extremely active. When he finally realized how farked up it was, he got out and was excommunicated. A couple of months ago, he and his roommate left the complex for unknown reasons and the apartment was left damaged and torn, almost ransacked. The complex blamed the tenant and sued them. After someone else moved in, about three weeks later, there were flyers posted to our doors advertising for the local Scientology sect having a recruitment meeting.

\CSB
 
2012-07-01 09:19:24 PM  
Wow - have you all missed the point?
Katie - call me, Nevada is a "right to carry" state, we can "solve" the tailing you problem.

//you still have my # from the restraining order, right?
 
2012-07-01 09:24:48 PM  
Incidentally, has anyone else here ever read the Turning Wheel, by Philip K. Dick? It's one of his early stories, written in 1952 I believe. It's about a future dystopia in which China conquers the world and L. Ron Hubbard is the founding prophet of the only religion still allowed. Its portrayal of the prophet is not exactly flattering, and its obvious that Dick regarded the man as an absurd fraud. Yet here we are, 60 years later, and some people still haven't figured that out. I forget what my point was, but man, people are dumb.
 
2012-07-01 09:32:37 PM  
Scientologists scare me. All religions have cult-like aspects, but Scientology is straight-up reminiscent of the Peoples' Temple or something like that. I mean, there's just something off about all of that shiat. Not that the cosmic Hebrew zombie born of a virgin and an invisible man in the sky makes complete and total sense, mind you.
 
2012-07-01 09:33:33 PM  
I wonder if they'll kill her?
 
2012-07-01 09:36:20 PM  

dletter: This does not appear to be the mind of a paranoid person. People who have photographed Katie multiple times tell TMZ there have been several "mysterious" men and vehicles around Katie's apartment and following her when she's out.

You mean, "mysterious" people following her OTHER than you guys who are following her in vehicles because she is famous?

/not that I don't believe that Scientology is tailing her.
//but, they are just another level worse than the paparazzi.


The article did point out that they looked into whether or not the vehicles in question were just other Papparazzi and they don't appear to be.
 
2012-07-01 09:38:13 PM  

Weaver95: I wonder if they'll kill her?


No, they would never get away with it, and the consequences would never be the same. She's too high profile. They'll just harass her and make vague threats in an attempt to get her to give Tom custody of their daughter.
 
2012-07-01 09:44:08 PM  
Ya know, Xenu isn't their god. He's like...space-Hitler, and he's still in space-prison somewhere.
 
2012-07-01 09:44:36 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Eh, Scientologists are brainwashed cultists.


So, they are an average religion.

Don't think the Catholic church or Christianity or any other religious group wouldn't or couldn't pull the same underhanded, evil shiat Scientologists do.


Seriously think about what you are saying, the Catholic Church with over a Billion followers has a hotel for people to live in near Hollywood where their every move is watched by followers. And this one follower asks for a divorce and because the person they are divorcing is a special person in the religion they follow the lady who wants the divorce. You have no clue about what the Catholic church is all about.
 
2012-07-01 09:48:21 PM  

Hector Remarkable: Ya know, Xenu isn't their god. He's like...space-Hitler, and he's still in space-prison somewhere.


Space Satan

\m/
 
2012-07-01 09:49:22 PM  
i165.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-01 09:49:49 PM  

praymantis: FirstNationalBastard: Eh, Scientologists are brainwashed cultists.


So, they are an average religion.

Don't think the Catholic church or Christianity or any other religious group wouldn't or couldn't pull the same underhanded, evil shiat Scientologists do.

Seriously think about what you are saying, the Catholic Church with over a Billion followers has a hotel for people to live in near Hollywood where their every move is watched by followers. And this one follower asks for a divorce and because the person they are divorcing is a special person in the religion they follow the lady who wants the divorce. You have no clue about what the Catholic church is all about.


farking young boys?
 
2012-07-01 09:49:57 PM  

Mugato: (who really sucked as a writer, BTW)


I tried to read Hubbard some years back, but it was just awful. I just couldn't finish anything he wrote.
 
2012-07-01 09:50:56 PM  

praymantis: You have no clue about what the Catholic church is all about.


True that... once you hit puberty, the Catholic Church is harmless.
 
2012-07-01 09:51:13 PM  

malaktaus: It's about a future dystopia in which China conquers the world and L. Ron Hubbard is the founding prophet of the only religion still allowed. Its portrayal of the prophet is not exactly flattering, and its obvious that Dick regarded the man as an absurd fraud.


Now that's an interesting thing to learn. I may have to look for that book at the library.
 
2012-07-01 09:51:14 PM  

malaktaus: Weaver95: I wonder if they'll kill her?

No, they would never get away with it, and the consequences would never be the same. She's too high profile. They'll just harass her and make vague threats in an attempt to get her to give Tom custody of their daughter.


They won't kill her, but she'll be found one day the victim of an unfortunate accident or overdose.
 
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