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2012-07-01 08:02:18 PM

EnviroDude: Lorelle: Wallace pressed McConnell on how Republicans would provide coverage to the millions of people who are uninsured.

"That is not the issue," McConnell said.

That IS the issue, you out-of-touch fool.

No, the issue is that if you can't afford the premiums, how will you pay the deductibles.


Get rid of private insurance companies, and that becomes much less of a problem.

The very fact that a whole, private industry exists to profit off of peoples' sickness and death is disgusting. The fact that so many people in our government will fight to the death to protect these vultures is barbaric.
 
2012-07-01 08:02:31 PM

Dwight_Yeast: make me some tea: thornhill: I cannot wait until this question comes up in the Presidential debate.

That should be fun.

It's going to be really amusing to watch the polling numbers after the debates start.


The video that's out there of him praising the mandate is absolutely damning. Here he is talking about how taxation will be used as a penalty.
 
2012-07-01 08:02:36 PM
How about they institute a cap for how much procedures, tests, medications, and incidentals cost in the health care system?

Cost of medical procedures by country.

See those red dots on the far right of the graphs? Those would be American costs. They're almost all 50-150% more expensive than most other countries, including Canada. Maybe if they followed the Hippocratic Oath more closely rather than relying on the Capitalistic Oath, the Affordable Care Act would actually be *gasp* affordable.
 
2012-07-01 08:07:42 PM

bulldg4life: Smackledorfer: The new talking point of my coworkers has been that tons of businesses are all going to drop their insurance. Nobody can explain why. What's the basis of this talking point?

Paying the fine for non-insurance is cheaper than having health insurance. Of course, the same people that continually yell about how employees are free to choose jobs based on benefits raise holy hell about this idea.

I'm assuming the employees will leave if the company doesn't provide health insurance.


In this economy? Not likely.

Also, a lot of the jobs that don't provide benefits are low paying low skill type jobs. My guess is these types of employees don't have a lot of choice as to where they are employed and they probably are not going to be able to find an employer who does offer them benefits. Republicans would have you believe that everyone can just find a new employer that offers benefits and then the problem will be solved. That's not even close to being true.
 
2012-07-01 08:09:31 PM
Money cures all. Unless you dont have any.
 
2012-07-01 08:09:53 PM
"That is not the issue," McConnell said. "The question is how you can go step by step to improve the American healthcare system. It is already the finest healthcare system in the world."

No it isn't you lying out of touch douche bag.
 
2012-07-01 08:10:18 PM

thornhill: The video that's out there of him praising the mandate is absolutely damning. Here he is talking about how taxation will be used as a penalty.


I've seen him trying to turn it into a states' rights thing, but I haven't seen that gain much traction.
 
2012-07-01 08:12:16 PM
He has 1,000 Yard Stare. I wonder what crazy shiat he knows that give him that haunted look?
 
2012-07-01 08:13:53 PM

Satanic_Hamster: "That is not the issue," McConnell said. "The question is how you can go step by step to improve the American healthcare system. It is already the finest healthcare system in the world."

No it isn't you lying out of touch douche bag.


He's basicly saying were goin to repeal then do nothing like the past decades?
 
2012-07-01 08:14:01 PM

LordJiro: The very fact that a whole, private industry exists to profit off of peoples' sickness and death is disgusting.


I don't really have a problem with people profiting from others' misery, per se. A lawyer profits when others have legal problems, the guy who replaced my car window profited from my car having been broken into, the folks who make my deodorant profit from the pain of those who have to endure my manly stench. None of this troubles me in the least.

What bothers me is the tens of thousands of people who profit from others' sickness and death, yet do absolutely nothing that helps keep people alive and healthy.
 
2012-07-01 08:14:21 PM

Pincy: That's not even close to being true.


Yes, I know that. But, it's the same argument used when talking about employers barring birth control coverage in health plans. The employees can just go get other jobs.

If it is a good enough argument there, then it negates the argument here.
 
2012-07-01 08:22:00 PM
Dear Mitch McConnell,

Fark you. Step down, asshole.

Sincerely, fark you,

Herman B.
 
2012-07-01 08:22:24 PM

make me some tea: November will hopefully put an end to all of this bullshiat either way.


In other words, Republican grandstanding on this issue could very well end up harming insurance companies, the health care industry in general, and the American people in one fell swoop?

This is my surprised keyboard.
 
2012-07-01 08:24:58 PM

Pincy: Lorelle: Wallace pressed McConnell on how Republicans would provide coverage to the millions of people who are uninsured.

"That is not the issue," McConnell said.

That IS the issue, you out-of-touch fool.

The Republicans continue to give the Democrats the best sound bites. They are practically writing Obama's re-election campaign for him.


All the reps have to do for sound bites is quote Obama. Between what he said when he was attacking Hilliary and this week, there will be plenty
 
2012-07-01 08:25:02 PM

Satanic_Hamster: "That is not the issue," McConnell said. "The question is how you can go step by step to improve the American healthcare system. It is already the finest most profitable healthcare system in the world."

No it isn't you lying out of touch douche bag.



Better?
 
2012-07-01 08:27:32 PM

EnviroDude: Between what he said when he was attacking Hilliary


I know. Those quotes really prevented him from being elected the first time.
 
2012-07-01 08:29:11 PM

BMulligan: LordJiro: The very fact that a whole, private industry exists to profit off of peoples' sickness and death is disgusting.

I don't really have a problem with people profiting from others' misery, per se. A lawyer profits when others have legal problems, the guy who replaced my car window profited from my car having been broken into, the folks who make my deodorant profit from the pain of those who have to endure my manly stench. None of this troubles me in the least.

What bothers me is the tens of thousands of people who profit from others' sickness and death, yet do absolutely nothing that helps keep people alive and healthy.


I would argue those people, like doctors, aren't profiting off your misery, they're profiting because they can offer you an effective solution to it. This makes even more sense in the context of insurance companies. Insurance companies actually maximize profits by not alleviating your suffering which is why so many do whatever they can to drop you once it comes time for them to actually provide the service you've supposedly been paying them for.
 
2012-07-01 08:33:29 PM

Ambivalence: Wow. That's the first time I"ve heard a republican come right out and say that 30million uninsured people ISN'T the problem. And that they basicly have no intention to do anything about it.

Wow, thats.....wow.



What you're missing is how this quote will be filtered to the GOP base. The "uninsured" are actually poor, minority welfare babies who take your money and spend it on things that minorities spend their money on, like alcohol, cigarettes and abortions. "Obamacare" is really just a way that poor minorities can continue to not work and take money from hard-working people to spend on black and Mexican things.

When all you hear is ^^^^ as the message, "Obamacare" sounds like a really bad idea, and you don't care too much about the 30Million uninsured living in this country. They should just get a job, after all.
 
2012-07-01 08:34:28 PM

bulldg4life: Pincy: That's not even close to being true.

Yes, I know that. But, it's the same argument used when talking about employers barring birth control coverage in health plans. The employees can just go get other jobs.

If it is a good enough argument there, then it negates the argument here.


Except it's not a good enough argument there. Jobs aren't exactly growing on trees.
 
2012-07-01 08:41:26 PM
You know, this all boils down to the simple fact the GOP can't call Obama a "The sheriff is a N." And what's happening is they are using so much cognitive energy avoiding calling him "The Sheriff is a N" that it makes the rest of their logical functions lose power.

During the negotiations the GOP could have gotten anything they wanted, the Dems were the chubby girl with low self-esteem at the prom, eagerly willing to go A2M with you if you would just pose for the stupid portrait. They could have made the Bush Tax Cuts permanent, they could have gotten the tort reform they always wanted. They could have been drilling in ANWAR now. Invaded Iran. Anything.

Instead all they have is 90% of the Health Care Reforms they've been championing since 1992.
 
2012-07-01 08:45:27 PM
Wait a minute. McConnel got biatch-slapped on FOX! They actually asked a non softballl of a rrepublican? Ladies and gentlemen, this just in: a cold front is approaching hell.
 
2012-07-01 08:50:30 PM

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Dude, you know what's really farked up about that picture? Crop it just a litte and you get this :

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2012-07-01 08:50:41 PM

bulldg4life: EnviroDude: Between what he said when he was attacking Hilliary

I know. Those quotes really prevented him from being elected the first time.


But this time, it's different, because...

Insert jerking-off hand motion here.
 
2012-07-01 08:51:16 PM

Notabunny: Smackledorfer: The new talking point of my coworkers has been that tons of businesses are all going to drop their insurance. Nobody can explain why. What's the basis of this talking point?

I'll bet your employer doesn't have random drug testing.


You lose. What do I win?
 
2012-07-01 08:55:17 PM

make me some tea: thornhill: The video that's out there of him praising the mandate is absolutely damning. Here he is talking about how taxation will be used as a penalty.

I've seen him trying to turn it into a states' rights thing, but I haven't seen that gain much traction.


His explanation reeks of bullshiat to such an extent that even republicans are having a hard time stomaching it, although I would guess they'll choke it down eventually. Independent voters, on the other hand, will likely see the patent insincerity for what it is. If he was smart he would drop his opposition to health care reform and try to take credit for it, as he would actually have a semi-legitimate argument if he took that route, but he doesn't want to rile up the base. At this point his only hope is for the economy to crash again, and even then the election wouldn't be a sure thing. Still, I pretty much expect the republicans to do their level best to burn this country to the ground in the next few months.
 
2012-07-01 09:05:33 PM

Smackledorfer: The new talking point of my coworkers has been that tons of businesses are all going to drop their insurance. Nobody can explain why. What's the basis of this talking point?


Those fine, upstanding folks at McKinsey have been whispering in the ears of the press corps.
 
2012-07-01 09:09:34 PM
Wallace pressed McConnell on how Republicans would provide coverage to the millions of people who are uninsured.

"That is not the issue," McConnell said

Exaaaaactly! And what does McConnell consider to be the issue?

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2012-07-01 09:21:56 PM
www.maniacworld.com
 
2012-07-01 09:22:19 PM
He looks like a farking muppet.
 
2012-07-01 09:24:03 PM

make me some tea: The thing is, the industry is/has already adjusted to the changes in the law for the large part. The biggest problem facing the industry right now is the political uncertainties still in store. The SCOTUS rules definitely helps us know which direction we're going, but there's still uncertainty as to what will happen this election, so we really have to hold off on making business decisions too hastily because we don't want to waste resources. In my mind, this one thing is stifling the industry. We've hired an inhouse attorney to assist us and our clients in navigating through this smoothly.

November will hopefully put an end to all of this bullshiat either way.




Listen to this man, he knows what he's talking about.

/Why yes I am an EMR consultant.
 
2012-07-01 09:29:48 PM
Can someone name for me a current Republican who is NOT utterly repugnant? Because I'm coming up blank.
 
2012-07-01 09:32:48 PM

Coco LaFemme: Can someone name for me a current Republican who is NOT utterly repugnant? Because I'm coming up blank.


Uhm.....that one guy...no, wait. And, uh...no. Oh I know...no, not them.

They are farking nuts. Every last one of them. They really want to ruin the nation, line their pockets with cash, and let everyone else die.
 
2012-07-01 09:33:07 PM

Coco LaFemme: Can someone name for me a current Republican who is NOT utterly repugnant? Because I'm coming up blank.


David Frum. And that's because he's a pundit and not a politician. Beyond that, I am drawing a blank too.
 
2012-07-01 09:36:22 PM

Coco LaFemme: Can someone name for me a current Republican who is NOT utterly repugnant? Because I'm coming up blank.


I used to live in a county who's head of records and elections was a really swell, upstanding guy who just happened to be a republican. I wouldn't vote for him in a federal office becuase no matter how swell or upstanding you are, by the time you get to DC you're pretty much compelled to march in line with the rest of the foaming at the mouth crazies, but I had no problem voting for him to remain in his county level office.
 
2012-07-01 09:38:30 PM

Coco LaFemme: Can someone name for me a current Republican who is NOT utterly repugnant? Because I'm coming up blank.


There was that one guy in Louisiana that voted for something... Healthcare? David Lau or something like that? There was Olympia Snowe of course, and Susan Collins. As far as I know the Michigan governor Rick Snyder doesn't actively eat small innocent children...

Ummm...

There ARE others, but it's definitely the exception and not the rule.
 
2012-07-01 09:42:47 PM
Keep a stiff upper lip there, Mitch.
 
2012-07-01 09:44:55 PM

Pharque-it: So now car insurance is a tax?


People find out every day just how much of a tax car insurance is when they are pulled over by the highway patrol and can't prove they have it.

"Failing to show proof of financial responsibility, meaning insurance coverage, is a violation of California Vehicle Code Section 16029. Violating this code could result in fines up to $500 plus penalties, impoundment of the vehicle and suspension of the driver's license. If the vehicle is impounded the owner will have to pay for all storage and tow charges as well.

The consequences can be far more serious if you are involved in an accident and do not have insurance. You may have to comply with the financial responsibility laws (SR22, SR22s, SR16) including having to pay for any injuries or damages from the accident out of your own pocket.

Being caught driving without car insurance is likely to cost you twice as much as what you would have spent for one year of auto insurance
." [Source]
 
2012-07-01 09:53:16 PM

Coco LaFemme: Can someone name for me a current Republican who is NOT utterly repugnant? Because I'm coming up blank.


A not-crazy Republican...

www.planetc1.com
 
2012-07-01 09:54:47 PM

Coco LaFemme: Can someone name for me a current Republican who is NOT utterly repugnant? Because I'm coming up blank.


Michael Steele sounds somewhat reasonable on Hardball...
 
2012-07-01 09:55:16 PM

Coco LaFemme: Can someone name for me a current Republican who is NOT utterly repugnant? Because I'm coming up blank.


I'd say hubiestubert, but I'm not sure he's still a Republican at this point.

Also my aged grandmother is still registered a Republican, and she's not at all repugnant. Quite the opposite, really.
 
2012-07-01 09:57:33 PM

thornhill: I cannot wait until this question comes up in the Presidential debate.


Don't hold your breath.

LordJiro: The very fact that a whole, private industry exists to profit off of peoples' sickness and death is disgusting. The fact that so many people in our government will fight to the death to protect these vultures is barbaric.


This.
 
2012-07-01 09:57:59 PM

Coco LaFemme: Can someone name for me a current Republican who is NOT utterly repugnant? Because I'm coming up blank.


Maureen Walsh shows some indications of being a human.
 
2012-07-01 09:59:22 PM

one of Ripley's Bad Guys: Michael Steele sounds somewhat reasonable on Hardball...


Yes he does, now that he isn't forced to hold the to party line. He was as ridiculous as the rest of them before he left the RNC job.
 
2012-07-01 10:01:29 PM

apoptotic: Coco LaFemme: Can someone name for me a current Republican who is NOT utterly repugnant? Because I'm coming up blank.

Maureen Walsh shows some indications of being a human.


Shepard Smith has some good moments. I don't know if he's a republican though.
 
2012-07-01 10:05:32 PM

Gyrfalcon: Coco LaFemme: Can someone name for me a current Republican who is NOT utterly repugnant? Because I'm coming up blank.

I'd say hubiestubert, but I'm not sure he's still a Republican at this point.

Also my aged grandmother is still registered a Republican, and she's not at all repugnant. Quite the opposite, really.


Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe, but Impie is leaving Congress. The Wing Nuts are making it hard for folks to keep with the party...
 
2012-07-01 10:10:22 PM

theorellior: thornhill: I cannot wait until this question comes up in the Presidential debate.

Don't hold your breath.

LordJiro: The very fact that a whole, private industry exists to profit off of peoples' sickness and death is disgusting. The fact that so many people in our government will fight to the death to protect these vultures is barbaric.

This.


What's so odd and sad is that when I was a wee lass, insurance was not this horrible. You went to the doctor, paid your (small) office fee, and insurance handled the rest. It's easy to pinpoint when things started getting out of control: When we went over to managed care. As soon as HMOs and PPOs had the right to tell doctors what THEY thought was necessary and what wasn't, and what medications THEY felt should be on their "formularies" and which ones were not...then things started spiraling out of control.

Get these for-profit companies out from between doctors and insurance companies, and I bet things would improve dramatically.
 
2012-07-01 10:16:00 PM

Gyrfalcon: What's so odd and sad is that when I was a wee lass, insurance was not this horrible. You went to the doctor, paid your (small) office fee, and insurance handled the rest. It's easy to pinpoint when things started getting out of control: When we went over to managed care. As soon as HMOs and PPOs had the right to tell doctors what THEY thought was necessary and what wasn't, and what medications THEY felt should be on their "formularies" and which ones were not...then things started spiraling out of control.

Get these for-profit companies out from between doctors and insurance companies, and I bet things would improve dramatically.


I find it exquisitely ironic that republicans object, most stenuously, to "government taking healthcare decisions away from doctors and patients" without the slightest recognition that the healthcare decisions were taken from doctors and patients years ago by insurance companies.

Becuase if they don't cover it, you sure as hell can't afford it.
 
2012-07-01 10:19:17 PM

Coco LaFemme: Can someone name for me a current Republican who is NOT utterly repugnant? Because I'm coming up blank.


Barack Obama.
 
2012-07-01 10:19:59 PM
And I suppose that the fact that CMS is so powerful that they can sink any given health care institution nearly single-handed complete escapes the farktards who think we don't already have what amounts to government run health care. I see no reason to maintain status quo and let a bunch of assholes skim 20%+ of our health care spending by doing everything they can to restrict access in the name of the awesomeness of unfettered capitalism. Nearly every meaningful standard is already set by a government agency.
 
2012-07-01 10:20:23 PM

StoneColdAtheist: Coco LaFemme: Can someone name for me a current Republican who is NOT utterly repugnant? Because I'm coming up blank.

A not-crazy Republican...


You must not live in California.

Well, he's not crazy, but incompetent for sure.

/Moonbeam ain't any better.
 
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