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2012-07-01 02:45:45 PM  
Pirates have two players?

Yea! Somebody made it on something other than the pity selection!
 
2012-07-01 02:47:31 PM  
FINAL VOTE!

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2012-07-01 02:56:38 PM  
Zach Greinke got screwed.

And LaRussa is retired. He should not be coaching.
 
2012-07-01 02:56:49 PM  
Hey, what about Edwin Encarnacion?
 
2012-07-01 02:58:06 PM  
Better link, IMO

David Wright, and Yadier Molina should be starting for the NL.
 
2012-07-01 03:00:04 PM  
We came ridiculously close to having the NL fan vote get thrown out for the second time ever. Brandon Crawford, arguably the worst starting SS in the game, was 300,000 votes from winning the SS vote. Why? Because of the Giants fans stuffing the ballot for Pablo/Melky/Posey.

In other news, the players voting Lance Lynn over Greinke, Kershaw, McDonald, Cueto, etc, etc shows they're just as dumb as the fans.
 
2012-07-01 03:01:11 PM  
If Jeter had kept up his early-season hit production, he could be said to truly deserve the All-Star spot for the first time in years. But because he hasn't (average hovering around .300 right now), he doesn't.

It's still fun watching him play, though.
 
2012-07-01 03:03:52 PM  

DeWayne Mann: We came ridiculously close to having the NL fan vote get thrown out for the second time ever.


In case anyone doesn't know:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957_Major_League_Baseball_All-Star_Gam e# Cincinnati_Reds_voting_controversy
 
2012-07-01 03:04:46 PM  
Jake Peavy should have been voted in as at least a reserve. If it wasn't for lack of run support in June, 0-6 with a 2.76 ERA, he would have one of the best records in the AL.
 
2012-07-01 03:06:01 PM  

DeWayne Mann: DeWayne Mann: We came ridiculously close to having the NL fan vote get thrown out for the second time ever.

In case anyone doesn't know:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957_Major_League_Baseball_All-Star_Gam e# Cincinnati_Reds_voting_controversy


And now everyone is encouraged to stuff the ballot box
 
2012-07-01 03:07:03 PM  

ongbok: Jake Peavy should have been voted in as at least a reserve. If it wasn't for lack of run support in June, 0-6 with a 2.76 ERA, he would have one of the best records in the AL.


He's part of the final vote if you feel like putting in some effort to get him in
 
2012-07-01 03:08:27 PM  
How Lynn got in over Greinke is beyond me.
 
2012-07-01 03:09:04 PM  

neuroflare: ongbok: Jake Peavy should have been voted in as at least a reserve. If it wasn't for lack of run support in June, 0-6 with a 2.76 ERA, he would have one of the best records in the AL.

He's part of the final vote if you feel like putting in some effort to get him in


I already did, but my point is that it shouldn't have had to come to that with him.
 
2012-07-01 03:10:00 PM  

neuroflare: DeWayne Mann: DeWayne Mann: We came ridiculously close to having the NL fan vote get thrown out for the second time ever.

In case anyone doesn't know:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957_Major_League_Baseball_All-Star_Gam e# Cincinnati_Reds_voting_controversy

And now everyone is encouraged to stuff the ballot box


Well...sorta. MLB doesn't want people using multiple e-mail addresses, and they keep track of how many paper ballots each team gets.

Seems fairly obvious that something happened with the Giants here, though.
 
2012-07-01 03:11:05 PM  

DeWayne Mann: We came ridiculously close to having the NL fan vote get thrown out for the second time ever. Brandon Crawford, arguably the worst starting SS in the game, was 300,000 votes from winning the SS vote. Why? Because of the Giants fans stuffing the ballot for Pablo/Melky/Posey.


I just heard on the Brewers radio broadcast that the Giants second basemen had a few million votes as well, even though he hasn't played a single game this year. Although I can't find the vote totals online.

If that's true, that's absolutely absurd.
 
2012-07-01 03:13:21 PM  
CSB time:

When I was in high school, I worked in the team shop of a major league club who was a perennial playoff team. There was another guy who worked there who had way less of a life than I did, and they just gave him crates of ballots as they came in, and he'd bring back large chunks every night filled out entirely for that team. This was pre-internet voting, and I'm sure it happened everywhere, it was just... a little sad to see the sort of person that made that happen.
 
2012-07-01 03:13:49 PM  
The class move by the NL would have been to add Chipper Jones as a reserve, as a tip of the cap to his career (like Cal Ripken's final season).

But, when I remembered that Tony LaRussa was the NL manager, I realized that expecting any amount of class was out of the question.
 
2012-07-01 03:13:49 PM  

picodenico: DeWayne Mann: We came ridiculously close to having the NL fan vote get thrown out for the second time ever. Brandon Crawford, arguably the worst starting SS in the game, was 300,000 votes from winning the SS vote. Why? Because of the Giants fans stuffing the ballot for Pablo/Melky/Posey.

I just heard on the Brewers radio broadcast that the Giants second basemen had a few million votes as well, even though he hasn't played a single game this year. Although I can't find the vote totals online.

If that's true, that's absolutely absurd.


Oh, it's absolutely true. Though, amusingly, Aubrey Huff got like, no votes at all, so obviously it wasn't a straight Giants ballot.

But Sanchez isn't the only guy who got a lot of votes without playing. Ryan Howard had a couple of million. Brett Gardner & Ellsbury have combined for like 6 games this year, were both in the top 10 for OF (as of last week, at least).
 
2012-07-01 03:16:05 PM  

Rincewind53: If Jeter had kept up his early-season hit production, he could be said to truly deserve the All-Star spot for the first time in years. But because he hasn't (average hovering around .300 right now), he doesn't.

It's still fun watching him play, though.


Most hits of any AL SS, and 4th overall, despite the fact he's cooled.

/goads Jeter haters every ASG
 
2012-07-01 03:17:32 PM  
Yay Brewers leading 1-0!

The_Great_Hambino: The class move by the NL would have been to add Chipper Jones as a reserve, as a tip of the cap to his career (like Cal Ripken's final season).

But, when I remembered that Tony LaRussa was the NL manager, I realized that expecting any amount of class was out of the question.


Hah, agreed with both statements.

DeWayne Mann: But Sanchez isn't the only guy who got a lot of votes without playing. Ryan Howard had a couple of million. Brett Gardner & Ellsbury have combined for like 6 games this year, were both in the top 10 for OF (as of last week, at least).


*grumble grumble*
 
2012-07-01 03:19:54 PM  

picodenico: Yay Brewers leading 1-0!


Meant to ask earlier: has the radio broadcast said anything about the security guard who had the heart attack in the bullpen?
 
2012-07-01 03:21:30 PM  

machoprogrammer: How Lynn got in over Greinke is beyond me.


Tony La Russa made a phone call telling Greinke he made the team, but he got Lance Lynn instead
 
2012-07-01 03:22:15 PM  

picodenico: Zach Greinke got screwed.

And LaRussa is retired. He should not be coaching.


Yes! This is what I was thinking!
The little troll is retired, why is he coaching the NL team?
 
2012-07-01 03:22:21 PM  
Chipper will likely get the last NL spot for sentimental reasons
 
2012-07-01 03:22:57 PM  

VvonderJesus: machoprogrammer: How Lynn got in over Greinke is beyond me.

Tony La Russa made a phone call telling Greinke he made the team, but he got Lance Lynn instead


smarted and funnied
 
2012-07-01 03:24:05 PM  

picodenico: DeWayne Mann: We came ridiculously close to having the NL fan vote get thrown out for the second time ever. Brandon Crawford, arguably the worst starting SS in the game, was 300,000 votes from winning the SS vote. Why? Because of the Giants fans stuffing the ballot for Pablo/Melky/Posey.

I just heard on the Brewers radio broadcast that the Giants second basemen had a few million votes as well, even though he hasn't played a single game this year. Although I can't find the vote totals online.

If that's true, that's absolutely absurd.


Like Ryan Howard being pretty high.up in votes for NL 1b? Or the year Canseco was a leading vote getter despite having missed the first half of the year.
This stuff isn't new. Crawford or Sanchez or Belt sure dudn't deserve many AS votes, but let's not act like suddenly the Giants are commiting some crime against humanity.

And as a Giants fan, I'd say it's great to see Sandoval, Milkey and especially Posey win the starts-but it's not hard to argue all three of them had more deserving candidates. I'd almost rather trade one of them starting the game for having Cain start the game or maybe another pitcher.
 
2012-07-01 03:26:44 PM  

DeWayne Mann: Meant to ask earlier: has the radio broadcast said anything about the security guard who had the heart attack in the bullpen?


Not that I've heard. I hadn't heard who it was or what the capacity was of the person or the condition, officially. If what you said is true, that's the most I've heard. I've been following here as well...
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VvonderJesus: Tony La Russa made a phone call telling Greinke he made the team, but he got Lance Lynn instead


hahahahahaha

Granolabar: The little troll is retired, why is he coaching the NL team?


True answer, because he coached the NL team in the WS last year. But since he's retired, I would think Matheny would be the coach, or whomever his assistant coach was, if it wasn't Matheny.

Annoyed as hell answer, because he can't let it go.
 
2012-07-01 03:30:24 PM  
I'm more interested in the home run derby.
 
2012-07-01 03:30:27 PM  

The Bestest: Chipper will likely get the last NL spot for sentimental reasons



I would hope so, but I suspect that the "ZOMG!!! Bryce Harper!!!!" media machine won't let that happen.


/Did you know that Bryce Harper is only 19, and that everyone in the Baseball HoF was, at one point, also 19?
//Things I learn on Baseball Tonight
 
2012-07-01 03:32:01 PM  

picodenico: DeWayne Mann: Meant to ask earlier: has the radio broadcast said anything about the security guard who had the heart attack in the bullpen?

Not that I've heard. I hadn't heard who it was or what the capacity was of the person or the condition, officially. If what you said is true, that's the most I've heard. I've been following here as well...
Link

VvonderJesus: Tony La Russa made a phone call telling Greinke he made the team, but he got Lance Lynn instead

hahahahahaha

Granolabar: The little troll is retired, why is he coaching the NL team?

True answer, because he coached the NL team in the WS last year. But since he's retired, I would think Matheny would be the coach, or whomever his assistant coach was, if it wasn't Matheny.

Annoyed as hell answer, because he can't let it go.


In 2003 Dusty Baker managed the All Star game as skipper of the Cubs. He'd managed the Giants to the 2002 World Series. Granted, he didn't retire like LaRussa did, but apparently the ASG assignment goes with the person, not the team. Otherwise Matheny would be managing this year and Felipe Alou in 2003.
 
2012-07-01 03:34:28 PM  

picodenico: Zach Greinke got screwed.


machoprogrammer: How Lynn got in over Greinke is beyond me.


Greinke and Justin Verlander have the best WAR among pitchers in baseball - +3.6
 
2012-07-01 03:34:32 PM  

Your_Huckleberry: In 2003 Dusty Baker managed the All Star game as skipper of the Cubs. He'd managed the Giants to the 2002 World Series. Granted, he didn't retire like LaRussa did, but apparently the ASG assignment goes with the person, not the team. Otherwise Matheny would be managing this year and Felipe Alou in 2003.


Huh. What would happen then if the coach switched leagues....

That would seem beyond stupid to coach against your leauge.
 
2012-07-01 03:38:06 PM  

mrmyxolodian: picodenico: Zach Greinke got screwed.

machoprogrammer: How Lynn got in over Greinke is beyond me.

Greinke and Justin Verlander have the best WAR among pitchers in baseball - +3.6


Note that that's mostly because Verlander has one more start than Greinke, thanks to the schedule. Greinke should take the lead tomorrow.
 
2012-07-01 03:39:32 PM  
Brandon Philips should be the starting NL second baseman. Unfortunately LaRussa is a prick and hates the Reds and will keep him off the team along with Jonny Cueto
 
2012-07-01 03:47:15 PM  

picodenico: Your_Huckleberry: In 2003 Dusty Baker managed the All Star game as skipper of the Cubs. He'd managed the Giants to the 2002 World Series. Granted, he didn't retire like LaRussa did, but apparently the ASG assignment goes with the person, not the team. Otherwise Matheny would be managing this year and Felipe Alou in 2003.

Huh. What would happen then if the coach switched leagues....

That would seem beyond stupid to coach against your leauge.


Well he managed the NL team since he was now a NL manager. Same with players who get traded, they'll play for their new league. But, retired?
 
2012-07-01 03:48:40 PM  
Honestly, the more I think about it, the more disappointed in the players I am. I've always figured the following:

The fans vote for popular guys. It's dumb, but understandable.
The managers pick their own players (sort of a World Series Champ perk) & deal with all the dumb bureaucratic rules ("wait, I have one spot left for both a Twin AND a position player? ARGH")
So I've always figured it was up to the players to pick the, you know, good players.

And they completely suck at that job. It's not even just here with the ASG. Fox shows these weekly player polls on Saturday. A few weeks ago, they had "best defensive OF." Torii Hunter won. You know, the 3rd best defensive OF on his team?
 
2012-07-01 03:53:23 PM  
As a Cubs fan: why the hell do we have two? Why do we even get to have the one? Maybe we can send the water boy.
 
2012-07-01 03:54:08 PM  

Donnchadha: Pirates have two players?

Yea! Somebody made it on something other than the pity selection!


I've got McCutchen and Walker on my FB team. Very nice production from both of them.

Actually, it looks like I have 6 All-Stars out of 23 players on my team. Nice.
 
2012-07-01 03:57:19 PM  

Gosling: As a Cubs fan: why the hell do we have two? Why do we even get to have the one? Maybe we can send the water boy.


Well, Castro was voted in by the players. While I wouldn't have picked him (I would've gone Lowrie), it's somewhat defensible. LaHair is in there because La Russa needed to select a backup 1B. It probably should've been LaRoche or maybe Goldschmidt, but non-Votto NL 1Bs are really bad anyway and at least Lahair can play OF too.
 
2012-07-01 04:00:55 PM  

GAT_00: Donnchadha: Pirates have two players?

Yea! Somebody made it on something other than the pity selection!

I've got McCutchen and Walker on my FB team. Very nice production from both of them.

Actually, it looks like I have 6 All-Stars out of 23 players on my team. Nice.


Might want to do some more math before you start bragging...
 
2012-07-01 04:04:51 PM  
Brandon Phillips got screwed. There's not a more exciting 2B to watch in the NL.
 
2012-07-01 04:05:29 PM  

mrmyxolodian: picodenico: Zach Greinke got screwed.

machoprogrammer: How Lynn got in over Greinke is beyond me.

Greinke and Justin Verlander have the best WAR among pitchers in baseball - +3.6


Uhh.... doesnt Dickey have the best WAR? 3.8? So, yeah.

Why all the butthurt over TLR? Its one year and then he's gone again. One of the greatest managers in baseball history and you're crying because they let him coach an all-star Game?

Also, Posey making the start over Molina or Ruiz is a joke. The guy has played 1st base as well, and doesnt do anything near what the other two do behind the plate. Molina and Ruiz stifle running games all by themselves, and can each hit for as much power.

Dickey should also start, if not just because he's the best pitcher in the big leagues right now, but also since they havent had a knuckleballer start the game in like 70 years
 
2012-07-01 04:06:07 PM  

bacongood: Might want to do some more math before you start bragging...


What, that 6 fantasy players on an All-Star roster is normal? Probably.

Or if you mean Walker's stats, he's my backup to Brandon Philips. But I don't expect much from second basemen, and Walker has nice streaks.
 
2012-07-01 04:08:24 PM  

Fendurr: Uhh.... doesnt Dickey have the best WAR? 3.8? So, yeah.


He's using fWAR, like a sane person. Dickey's only at 2.9 for that.

(Though, in fairness, Dickey may be the exception to the fWAR is better than rWAR fight. MAY)
 
2012-07-01 04:09:59 PM  

Fendurr: Why all the butthurt over TLR?


Probably because he's retired. And a complete jackass.
 
2012-07-01 04:13:33 PM  

Fendurr: mrmyxolodian: picodenico: Zach Greinke got screwed.

machoprogrammer: How Lynn got in over Greinke is beyond me.

Greinke and Justin Verlander have the best WAR among pitchers in baseball - +3.6

Uhh.... doesnt Dickey have the best WAR? 3.8? So, yeah.

Why all the butthurt over TLR? Its one year and then he's gone again. One of the greatest managers in baseball history and you're crying because they let him coach an all-star Game?

Also, Posey making the start over Molina or Ruiz is a joke. The guy has played 1st base as well, and doesnt do anything near what the other two do behind the plate. Molina and Ruiz stifle running games all by themselves, and can each hit for as much power.

Dickey should also start, if not just because he's the best pitcher in the big leagues right now, but also since they havent had a knuckleballer start the game in like 70 years


Wonder where you're from?
A retired manager shouldn't be coaching an all star game. Plus, no one likes TLR. He's whiny, annoying, and makes games last 3 times longer than they need by calling up the bullpen every time his pitcher throws a ball.
I do agree about Molina though. No reason at all he shouldn't be catching for the NL team.
 
2012-07-01 04:19:44 PM  

bacongood: Might want to do some more math before you start bragging...


25 players per team on the active roster means 750 active players.
34 x 2 All stars means that 68/750 = 9% of active players are all stars

6 of his 23 players are all stars, which is 26%.

I think that he's got a higher percentage of all stars on his fantasy team than statistical average.
 
2012-07-01 04:24:44 PM  

a sharp nail: CSB time:

When I was in high school, I worked in the team shop of a major league club who was a perennial playoff team. There was another guy who worked there who had way less of a life than I did, and they just gave him crates of ballots as they came in, and he'd bring back large chunks every night filled out entirely for that team. This was pre-internet voting, and I'm sure it happened everywhere, it was just... a little sad to see the sort of person that made that happen.


Steve Garvey's first selection came because he, his wife and their friends took cases of ballots from the Dodgers and filled them out at home. Back in those days ten dedicated people could be the difference between first and third.
 
2012-07-01 04:31:54 PM  
Good lord.
 
2012-07-01 04:38:48 PM  

Rincewind53: If Jeter had kept up his early-season hit production, he could be said to truly deserve the All-Star spot for the first time in years. But because he hasn't (average hovering around .300 right now), he doesn't.

It's still fun watching him play, though.


Jeter's got the starting spot until he retires. He could be 50 years old, hitting .190 and he'd still be in. No use arguing it, although its stupid. Then again the all star game is stupid.
 
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