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(Yahoo)   Based on a history of supporting NFL teams, Roger Goodell outlines rules regarding up to two teams moving to LA where they will play to a half empty stadium of apathetic fans   (sports.yahoo.com) divider line 73
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2012-07-01 02:08:05 PM
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2012-07-01 02:36:48 PM
can chicago get a second team instead?
 
2012-07-01 03:00:38 PM

thomps: can chicago get a second team instead?


Shouldn't they get a first team before worrying about getting a second one?
 
2012-07-01 03:45:00 PM

FirstNationalBastard: thomps: can chicago get a second team instead?

Shouldn't they get a first team before worrying about getting a second one?


Does that qualify as an Oh Snap? I believe that qualifies as an Oh Snap.
 
2012-07-01 03:47:26 PM

FirstNationalBastard: thomps: can chicago get a second team instead?

Shouldn't they get a first team before worrying about getting a second one?


To be fair, the McCaskeys wouldn't be able to own both teams, and odd are at least ONE front office would have its head out of its ass at any given time...

/Just as long as the one with the clowns running the show stays in the NFC North.
 
2012-07-01 03:48:32 PM

Tommy Moo: FirstNationalBastard: thomps: can chicago get a second team instead?

Shouldn't they get a first team before worrying about getting a second one?

Does that qualify as an Oh Snap? I believe that qualifies as an Oh Snap.


I believe you are correct. Somebody check the flowchart....
 
2012-07-01 03:52:58 PM
tempest.fluidartist.com

Based on the flowchart, I do believe that is an Oh Snap.
 
2012-07-01 03:54:03 PM

Balchinian: Tommy Moo: FirstNationalBastard: thomps: can chicago get a second team instead?

Shouldn't they get a first team before worrying about getting a second one?

Does that qualify as an Oh Snap? I believe that qualifies as an Oh Snap.

I believe you are correct. Somebody check the flowchart....


Hm, yes, it would appear that someone did indeed get told

i.imgur.com
 
2012-07-01 03:56:26 PM
Also, in thread-topic related news, can we just quit jackin with stuff? What is wrong with the league right now? We have 32 teams with 4 teams in 8 divisions, which are split perfectly between two conferences. Everything is running smoothly. Why stick your hand in the bone cruncher thingy?

Also fark you, robsul82! Damn you & your lightning quick posting!
 
2012-07-01 03:59:23 PM

Di Atribe: Also fark you, robsul82! Damn you & your lightning quick posting!


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-01 04:00:01 PM
imageshack.us
 
2012-07-01 04:00:25 PM
FTA:Goodell even mentioned in the memo a Hall of Fame, studios for NFL Network and youth football facilities accompanying a stadium.

That will go over well, Rog. Why not dig up Vince Lombardi and put his remains there too?
 
2012-07-01 04:01:42 PM
Yes subby because the two teams that left LA are doing so well in their respective current cities.

/current respective cities?
//cities respective current?
 
2012-07-01 04:02:04 PM
So fans will show up midway through the second quarter; leave at the start of the 4th?
 
2012-07-01 04:06:17 PM

AliceBToklasLives: So fans will show up midway through the second quarter; leave at the start of the 4th?


They already paid for their ticket/luxury box. I'm inclined to agree with Bill Simmons' sentiment (a dnagerous thing on Fark, I know) that it will become a status symbol for anyone who thinks they're a power player or just wants to impress their arsewipe kids. The pain is, outside of the Raiders and Bills, who would want to punt around 40% ownership to AEG?
 
2012-07-01 04:12:37 PM
You left out the part about the fans beating each other to death, subby.
 
2012-07-01 04:15:03 PM

innumerate: Yes subby because the two teams that left LA are doing so well in their respective current cities.

/current respective cities?
//cities respective current?


Current cities, respectively?
 
2012-07-01 04:19:04 PM

Di Atribe: Also, in thread-topic related news, can we just quit jackin with stuff? What is wrong with the league right now? We have 32 teams with 4 teams in 8 divisions, which are split perfectly between two conferences. Everything is running smoothly. Why stick your hand in the bone cruncher thingy?

Also fark you, robsul82! Damn you & your lightning quick posting!


Di, my girl, it's all about that C.R.E.A.M.

Cash rules everything around me.
 
2012-07-01 04:23:26 PM
I predict the NFL will get new stadiums out of St. Louis, Oakland, Buffalo etc. Then once the can't use LA as a threat, they'll drop two new teams there and gladly accept a billion or two dollars in expansion fees.

/I hope so
//St. Louis Rams season ticket holder.
 
2012-07-01 04:24:39 PM

Ken VeryBigLiar: AliceBToklasLives: So fans will show up midway through the second quarter; leave at the start of the 4th?

They already paid for their ticket/luxury box. I'm inclined to agree with Bill Simmons' sentiment (a dnagerous thing on Fark, I know) that it will become a status symbol for anyone who thinks they're a power player or just wants to impress their arsewipe kids. The pain is, outside of the Raiders and Bills, who would want to punt around 40% ownership to AEG?


I could see adding 2 LA teams, a Toronto team, and one more (maybe San Antonio?) to make 6 divisions of 6 teams. It's probably possible in the next ten years to try to get an even bigger TV deal next time.
 
2012-07-01 04:25:21 PM

Di Atribe: Also, in thread-topic related news, can we just quit jackin with stuff? What is wrong with the league right now? We have 32 teams with 4 teams in 8 divisions, which are split perfectly between two conferences. Everything is running smoothly. Why stick your hand in the bone cruncher thingy?

Also fark you, robsul82! Damn you & your lightning quick posting!


Because Darth Goodell won't stop until there are 50 NFL teams, 42 in other countries, and 8 in LA, and all games will be on Thursday night on the NFLN.
 
2012-07-01 04:31:43 PM

davidphogan: Ken VeryBigLiar: AliceBToklasLives: So fans will show up midway through the second quarter; leave at the start of the 4th?

They already paid for their ticket/luxury box. I'm inclined to agree with Bill Simmons' sentiment (a dnagerous thing on Fark, I know) that it will become a status symbol for anyone who thinks they're a power player or just wants to impress their arsewipe kids. The pain is, outside of the Raiders and Bills, who would want to punt around 40% ownership to AEG?

I could see adding 2 LA teams, a Toronto team, and one more (maybe San Antonio?) to make 6 divisions of 6 teams. It's probably possible in the next ten years to try to get an even bigger TV deal next time.


Can't build teams that fast, especially under the new CBA. Since teams will need to spend between 95-99% of their cap number under this agreement (the percentage varies a little from year to year), teams will be willing to spend to retain big money free agents, since they can't save the money. Owners spin it as loyalty to the players, which keeps fans happy, but means that teams will be very limited in who they can bring in outside the draft.

Look how long it took Houston to make the playoffs.

Expansion draft would be pitifully unfair if there was more than one team at a time, especially since the other teams would only put the scrubs on the list, and can protect them after some are taken.

At best you see one new team before the next time the negotiation is up.
 
2012-07-01 04:31:49 PM

davidphogan: I could see adding 2 LA teams


I don't see that working. Each team would be working against each other for the same fanbase. How would one team relate to a certain section of the fanbase, and the other relate to the rest? That's how it generally works when two teams are in the same city.

Chicago: north side, south side.

New York: certain boroughs have their own personality

LA: Look what's going on with the Lakers and Clippers. No one cares about the clippers. Its not like they can relate to a certain portion of LA... because LA doesn't really have that like Chicago and New York.

You kinda have to have a neighborhood-based rivalry. It works great with, in my experience, the Cubs and Sox. South Siders hate the Cubs, and vice-versa. Yeah, its often irrational (its just a game, people)... but no doubt it brings in the dollars.

Wearing White Sox gear in Chicago is a way of saying "I'm not a North Side yuppie". Silly, yeah... but again- it sells.
 
2012-07-01 04:32:31 PM

davidphogan: I could see adding 2 LA teams, a Toronto team, and one more (maybe San Antonio?) to make 6 divisions of 6 teams. It's probably possible in the next ten years to try to get an even bigger TV deal next time.


Unless the NFL wants to go back to the Running Backs are Gods era, they'd be stretched too far in the Quarterbacks. They already have a hard enough time finding 32 competent guys; after you past the top half it's gets fatally flawed in a hurry.
 
2012-07-01 04:32:54 PM
I have some edgy, cutting edge names for the new LA team:

Potheads
Inmates
Gangbangers
Pelosis
 
2012-07-01 04:36:45 PM

davidphogan: I could see adding 2 LA teams, a Toronto team, and one more (maybe San Antonio?)


The best thing for San Antonio to do, is to build a big Ass stadium between San Antonio and Austin. Say San Marcos, Buda, or New Braunfels and spilt the Tix sales with the hippies in Austin. The "San Antonio Fighting Chanclas" or South Texas Chupacabras
 
2012-07-01 04:40:23 PM

Ken VeryBigLiar: davidphogan: I could see adding 2 LA teams, a Toronto team, and one more (maybe San Antonio?) to make 6 divisions of 6 teams. It's probably possible in the next ten years to try to get an even bigger TV deal next time.

Unless the NFL wants to go back to the Running Backs are Gods era, they'd be stretched too far in the Quarterbacks. They already have a hard enough time finding 32 competent guys; after you past the top half it's gets fatally flawed in a hurry.


Ladies and gentlemen, your 2015 LA Bandits, starting at quarterback, number ten: Koy DETMER!! ...
 
2012-07-01 04:55:51 PM

downstairs: davidphogan: I could see adding 2 LA teams

I don't see that working. Each team would be working against each other for the same fanbase. How would one team relate to a certain section of the fanbase, and the other relate to the rest? That's how it generally works when two teams are in the same city.

Chicago: north side, south side.

New York: certain boroughs have their own personality

LA: Look what's going on with the Lakers and Clippers. No one cares about the clippers. Its not like they can relate to a certain portion of LA... because LA doesn't really have that like Chicago and New York.

You kinda have to have a neighborhood-based rivalry. It works great with, in my experience, the Cubs and Sox. South Siders hate the Cubs, and vice-versa. Yeah, its often irrational (its just a game, people)... but no doubt it brings in the dollars.

Wearing White Sox gear in Chicago is a way of saying "I'm not a North Side yuppie". Silly, yeah... but again- it sells.


Raiders fans and everyone else?

deadcrickets: I have some edgy, cutting edge names for the new LA team:

Potheads
Inmates
Gangbangers
Pelosis


Nancy Pelosi is from San Fransisco, dumbass.
 
2012-07-01 04:56:32 PM

akuma976: davidphogan: I could see adding 2 LA teams, a Toronto team, and one more (maybe San Antonio?)

The best thing for San Antonio to do, is to build a big Ass stadium between San Antonio and Austin. Say San Marcos, Buda, or New Braunfels and spilt the Tix sales with the hippies in Austin. The "San Antonio Fighting Chanclas" or South Texas Chupacabras


As a San Marcosian, I highly approve this idea....
 
2012-07-01 05:02:19 PM
You can't have an NFL team unless you hand out lots of Corporate Welfare to a billionaire for a stadium.

The current NFL stadium proposals for LA involve too much private funding to be acceptable.
 
2012-07-01 05:23:16 PM
With NFL Sunday Ticket, NFL RedZone & HD TVs, is there really any reason to go to a game in person?
 
2012-07-01 05:31:38 PM

johnnylarue: With NFL Sunday Ticket, NFL RedZone & HD TVs, is there really any reason to go to a game in person?


depends. Here in cinci, sure. the stadium is not out in the middle of fark nowhere, it's not expensive as other nfl tickets, and it's a good time had by all (and the only way to see the bungles "play")
 
2012-07-01 05:37:07 PM
I dunno a lot of the USC bandwagoners might drift over if they're any good

their attendance has been pretty decent

UCLA, on the other hand,
 
2012-07-01 05:55:48 PM

johnnylarue: With NFL Sunday Ticket, NFL RedZone & HD TVs, is there really any reason to go to a game in person?


Depends on the stadium, but I agree. At least down here in New Orleans. I'm glad we now fill the stadium, and its loud as hell... but watching an indoor football game live just doesn't do it for me. Its cramped as hell, and it just doesn't feel right.

I know why we need an indoor stadium, as the summer heat and humidity often extends into football season.

I've been to two games (I can practically walk to the stadium)... but it just didn't cut it for me. I prefer my local bar with its crazy fans and cheap booze.
 
2012-07-01 06:02:32 PM

Klivian: Ladies and gentlemen, your 2015 LA Bandits, starting at quarterback, number ten: Koy DETMER!! ...


If you needed six Qb's to throw into the fray it would be probably be some ungodly combination of McNabb, Orton, Brian Hoyer, Gerrard, Leinhart and maybe...JaOfftheMarcus?
 
2012-07-01 06:06:43 PM

deadcrickets: I have some edgy, cutting edge names for the new LA team:

Potheads
Inmates
Gangbangers
Pelosis


Cabróns
Pendejos
Chingada Madres
 
2012-07-01 06:10:53 PM

Ken VeryBigLiar: Klivian: Ladies and gentlemen, your 2015 LA Bandits, starting at quarterback, number ten: Koy DETMER!! ...

If you needed six Qb's to throw into the fray it would be probably be some ungodly combination of McNabb, Orton, Brian Hoyer, Gerrard, Leinhart and maybe...JaOfftheMarcus?


Scratch Hoyer, Leinart and Purple Drank.

Replace them with Vince Young (though I'm sure he would be the LAST of the group), Jason Campbell, and either Kolb (who is on the outs in Arizona) or He Who Shall Not Stay Retired
 
2012-07-01 06:19:28 PM

Klivian: Replace them with Vince Young (though I'm sure he would be the LAST of the group), Jason Campbell, and either Kolb (who is on the outs in Arizona) or He Who Shall Not Stay Retired


Agreed on Campbell and the loser of Kolb/Skelton but there are quite a few GM's sweating Hoyer nvts. Mike Lombardi himself said if he got the SF GM gig instead of Baalke his first act would have been trading for Hoyer and sending Alex Smith out to the street. And He Who Shall Not Be Named wouldn't have come back for anything less than a title contender looking for a one-year rental.
 
2012-07-01 06:51:32 PM

deadcrickets: I have some edgy, cutting edge names for the new LA team:

Potheads
Inmates
Gangbangers
Pelosis


The Los Angeles Angels of Los Angeles?
 
2012-07-01 07:23:48 PM
-LA investors build fancy pants stadium with the record budget surpluses in CA
- Box seats sell out months in advance
-Stadium opens to fanfare. NFL promises the city a super bowl in 5 years
- Yahoo News article about how much a slice of pizza or cup of beer costs at the game
- Famous chef opens restaurant inside the stadium
- ESPN analyst picks them to win the division
- Team sells out the first season
- Team starts 1-6. at the halfway point of the season, the stadium is 2/3 full because being seen at the game is no longer cool
- Season 4 rolls around and the team's best season so far is 7-9. Seat license renewals start to fade.
 
2012-07-01 07:25:19 PM

innumerate: Yes subby because the two teams that left LA are doing so well in their respective current cities.

/current respective cities?
//cities respective current?


3 reams
 
2012-07-01 07:28:46 PM

o5iiawah: -LA investors build fancy pants stadium with the record budget surpluses in CA
- Box seats sell out months in advance
-Stadium opens to fanfare. NFL promises the city a super bowl in 5 years
- Yahoo News article about how much a slice of pizza or cup of beer costs at the game
- Famous chef opens restaurant inside the stadium
- ESPN analyst picks them to win the division
- Team sells out the first season
- Team starts 1-6. at the halfway point of the season, the stadium is 2/3 full because being seen at the game is no longer cool
- Season 4 rolls around and the team's best season so far is 7-9. Seat license renewals start to fade.

- disney purchases the team, makes hit children's movie about a down-and-out kid who befriends the angry alcoholic coach of the football team and manages to inspire the ragtag group of misfit players to win the super bowl.
- thanks to merchandise sales and reasonably successful direct-to-dvd sequels, the team maintains profitability until finally making a playoff run in year 7.
- the nfl is disbanded due to a severe drop-off in the fan base as the glee generation comes of age.
 
2012-07-01 07:47:12 PM

thomps: o5iiawah: -LA investors build fancy pants stadium with the record budget surpluses in CA
- Box seats sell out months in advance
-Stadium opens to fanfare. NFL promises the city a super bowl in 5 years
- Yahoo News article about how much a slice of pizza or cup of beer costs at the game
- Famous chef opens restaurant inside the stadium
- ESPN analyst picks them to win the division
- Team sells out the first season
- Team starts 1-6. at the halfway point of the season, the stadium is 2/3 full because being seen at the game is no longer cool
- Season 4 rolls around and the team's best season so far is 7-9. Seat license renewals start to fade.
- disney purchases the team, makes hit children's movie about a down-and-out kid who befriends the angry alcoholic coach of the football team and manages to inspire the ragtag group of misfit players to win the super bowl.
- thanks to merchandise sales and reasonably successful direct-to-dvd sequels, the team maintains profitability until finally making a playoff run in year 7.
- the nfl is disbanded due to a severe drop-off in the fan base as the glee generation comes of age.


New football league, devoid of excessive celebration penalties and roughness limits, becomes wildly popular.

NCAA crushes new football league with post-graduation set of conferences and bowl system.
 
2012-07-01 08:09:03 PM

Primitive Screwhead: deadcrickets: I have some edgy, cutting edge names for the new LA team:

Potheads
Inmates
Gangbangers
Pelosis

Cabróns
Pendejos
Chingada Madres


LA Spics?
 
2012-07-01 08:18:45 PM
The L.A. Rodney Kings?
 
2012-07-01 09:08:35 PM

akuma976: The "San Antonio Fighting Chanclas" or South Texas Chupacabras


I lost it at "Fighting Chanclas". I haven't laughed that hard at anything related to football and San Antonio since I was at a UTSA home game and they played Andrés Cantor after a made field goal. GOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL!
 
2012-07-01 09:20:16 PM

Ryker's Peninsula: The L.A. Rodney Kings?


That's the hockey team
 
2012-07-01 09:30:11 PM

innumerate: Yes subby because the two teams that left LA are doing so well in their respective current cities


Last year Oakland had 94% attendance, St. Louis had 86. Not great, but if you look at attendance the last year St. Louis was in LA, their attendance was down almost 25000 over 8 games and if you compare it to four years earlier, attendance was down 47K for the Raiders, and a whopping 140K for the Rams.

Source: Link

Also since in the 10 years after leaving LA, they had a combined 3 Super Bowl appearances, compared to zero in the last 10 in LA.
 
2012-07-01 09:36:54 PM
If the NFL wanted a team in LA there would already be one. Once they lose LA as leverage their whole model will hit the wall. LA is far more useful as a threat (give us what we want or the team will move to Los Angeles) than it would be with a team. It's already demonstrated that it won't support a team all the way like most other cities, what would be the point in being a three-time loser?
 
2012-07-01 09:43:33 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: It's already demonstrated that it won't support a team all the way like most other cities, what would be the point in being a three-time loser?


That's because the Rose Bowl and Memorial dwarf the NFL stadiums besides JerryWorld.
 
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