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(Miami Herald)   It wouldn't be July 1st in Florida without ignoring the State's constitution and teeing off the ACLU, chiropractors, school boards and probably the Courts   (miamiherald.com) divider line 10
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2012-07-01 02:37:54 PM
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mikaloyd: After the inspirational messages law was adopted, local school districts were warned by the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida that adopting policies permitting student-led inspirational messages would "very likely lead to prolonged litigation." Any district that adopted the measure could be on the hook for hundreds of thousands in legal fees.

Way to protect freedom of speech ACLU


Way to point out the immediate and damaging effects of shiatting on the separation of church and state, ACLU.
2012-07-01 02:37:32 PM
3 votes:
Let me be the first to say "fark Chiropractors".

Pseudomedical practitioners should have no say in real medical care.
2012-07-01 02:52:15 PM
2 votes:
"I would assume they don't want to tell parents their children can't pray in school," Siplin said.

They can pray in school, dipshiat. No one is stopping them from doing it on their own time. It's having EVERYONE pray that people have problems with.
2012-07-01 07:46:21 PM
1 votes:

FoxholeAtheist: Let me be the first to say "fark Chiropractors".

Pseudomedical practitioners should have no say in real medical care.


THIS. And allowing them to make the determination on whether high school kids who have had concussions can return to play is completely asinine. Just really, really stupid.
2012-07-01 04:23:16 PM
1 votes:

jayphat: At the beginning of flu season last year, the local chiropractor put an op/ed in the newspaper talking at length about the dangers if getting a flu shot and how dozens of people nationwide died from flu shots the year before. His solution was to visit your local chiropractor or one you trusted to get some sort of "natural" help in defending yourself against the flu.

To quote the first person in the online forum "it is my firm belief that a chiropractor is one step up the medical ladder from a witch doctor"


Chiros like that are the "fruity new age crystal waving magnet wearers" that I referred to. Those people should not be allowed to fleece morons. Neither should palm readers, astrologists, or "psychics".

Absolutely. A fruitcake is a fruitcake is a fruitcake.
2012-07-01 04:12:16 PM
1 votes:

Kumana Wanalaia: Evilsmurf: Kumana Wanalaia: And let me be the first to say, my chiropractor fixed my back.

Let me refer you to two things. Firstly, the placebo effect. Secondly, post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Your doubts are logically legitimate.

I don't hope your back goes out, but if it does, I challenge you to find a better solution than a good chiropractor.


Physical therapist. I have 2 in the family. You know, licensed medical professionals.
2012-07-01 03:58:34 PM
1 votes:

Evilsmurf: Kumana Wanalaia: And let me be the first to say, my chiropractor fixed my back.

Let me refer you to two things. Firstly, the placebo effect. Secondly, post hoc ergo propter hoc.


I'll throw my corrected spine behind non-predatory, competent chiropractors here. CSB Time:

A combination of scoliosis and studentitis made life hell in my early twenties; my spine was twisted in such a way that made my ribcage squeeze my lungs, so working out was torture and I was always winded. Add to that my lower spine was curved down and ground against itself (kissing spinus syndrome). X-rays showed this, as well as the "tenting" effect (a white haze rendered on the x-ray which indicates muscle spasming). Anterior ribs made weightlifting impossible, as rib heads would pop out during benching (and even from sneezing). Hell, pure hell.

Ultra-sound therapy, electro-stimulation and adjustments over the course of a year drastically readjusted the curvature of my spine. I still have minor issues with popped ribs every so often, and go in for adjustments once or twice a year if something gets too annoying to ignore. Other than that, I'm able to enjoy life again; train with weights, run, and not be crippled by a deficiently-formed spine.

I know lots of people have a "thing" they like to crusade against; chiropractors are a favorite target. Like ALL medical professions, it falls victim to sleazy opportunist individuals who take advantage of sick and desperate folks. But don't even attempt to denigrate the entire profession by writing off success stories as the results of the placebo effect and that other fallacious catch-all. It's lazy and disingenuous.

TL;DR -- while predatory chiros exist, not all are such, and trying to discredit an entire profession and the success stories that arise as a result of help from said profession is lazy and as fallacious as the analytical techniques levied against said results.
2012-07-01 03:45:06 PM
1 votes:
I'm okay with pissing off chiropactors. They're almost exclusively scum.
2012-07-01 03:02:03 PM
1 votes:
Another new law will let the Florida Virtual School expand part-time offerings to children in kindergarten through third grade and lift a requirement for students to spend at least a year in a regular public school before enrolling in Virtual School classes. That's expected to benefit home-schooled children.

While I have no problem with lifting the requirement, Florida Virtual School offerings are underwhelming. We should not be expanding services but creating a competent delivery model.

Kumana Wanalaia: I repeat, my chiropractor fixed my back.


Your chiropractor was probably a licensed physical therapist who happened to get the chiropractic certificate to use the term "chiropractor". The majority of chiropractic is garbage, and some parts are flatly harmful, but people associate chiropractic somewhere between simple stress relief with massage and major rehabilitation and treatment with physical therapy despite physical therapy being the effective parts of chiropractic. My assumption, but I feel rather confident in this.
2012-07-01 02:43:42 PM
1 votes:

Kumana Wanalaia: FoxholeAtheist: Let me be the first to say "fark Chiropractors".

Pseudomedical practitioners should have no say in real medical care.

And let me be the first to say, my chiropractor fixed my back.

Yeah, some chiropractors are fruity new age crystal waving magnet wearers, and some are actual healers. Know the difference.


If they want to be doctors they should become doctors.
 
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