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(Moviefone)   Why Full Metal Jacket almost became Die Hard With a Full Metal Breakfast Club and 23 other things you didn't know about the movie that made you afraid of jelly donuts   (news.moviefone.com) divider line 76
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2012-07-01 04:41:40 PM
Good read.
Thanks, subby.
 
2012-07-01 04:43:02 PM
Personally, I'd have a hoot watching R. Lee Ermey's audition tape where he's spewing like a sewer for 15 minutes straight while extras pelt him with oranges and tennis balls.
 
2012-07-01 04:43:03 PM
A few days after the movie's release, D'Onofrio was seen again in "Adventures in Babysitting," this time as the muscular, blond-tressed, Thor-lookalike mechanic. His complete transformation between the two films gave him a reputation for both intense preparation and chamelionlike acting skills.

A 15 second part in Adventures in Baby Sitting requires intense preparation and chamelionlike acting skills.

againstlineofdance.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-01 04:45:58 PM
FTFA: 4. Initially, Kubrick envisioned Anthony Michael Hall as Joker. According to Hall, negotiations between the director and the "Breakfast Club" Brat Packer went on for eight months before ultimately falling through. Instead, "Vision Quest" star Matthew Modine landed the role.

Funny how Hall fail to mention that he usually appear drunk and late for work.
 
2012-07-01 04:46:44 PM

LarryDan43: A few days after the movie's release, D'Onofrio was seen again in "Adventures in Babysitting," this time as the muscular, blond-tressed, Thor-lookalike mechanic. His complete transformation between the two films gave him a reputation for both intense preparation and chamelionlike acting skills.

A 15 second part in Adventures in Baby Sitting requires intense preparation and chamelionlike acting skills.

[againstlineofdance.files.wordpress.com image 325x214]


I know it's sarcasm and all but going from doughy fatass crazy bastard to buff tough looking guy that don't remotely look alike in the span of a few months does.
 
2012-07-01 04:51:56 PM
Modine also wrote that he and the other actors playing Marines underwent realistic boot camp training, which included being yelled at by Ermey for up to 10 hours a day.

Holy crap, being screamed at by Ermey for 10 hours a day - I would have had a nervous breakdown
 
2012-07-01 05:07:49 PM

LarryDan43: A 15 second part in Adventures in Baby Sitting requires intense preparation and chamelionlike acting skills.


I don't know much about that scene, but some of the greatest acting instances in film history have been less than 15 seconds.

Watch Glengarry Glen Ross. There are plenty of parts, less than 15 seconds, that tell an amazing story. Specifically Jack Lemmon on the phone to some family member. No specific details are given, but its almost a movie in and of itself.

And a lot of other parts of the movie. Mamet's screenplay does an excellent job of telling stories without spelling them out... and quickly.
 
2012-07-01 05:14:50 PM

Saberus Terras: Personally, I'd have a hoot watching R. Lee Ermey's audition tape where he's spewing like a sewer for 15 minutes straight while extras pelt him with oranges and tennis balls.


This is a Kubrick film. No outtakes still exist, I bet.
 
2012-07-01 05:20:46 PM
If you watch the movie "The D.I." with Jack Webb you can't help but see some crazy similarities the Paris Island part of Full Metal Jacket has to it (but 30 years later)
 
2012-07-01 05:49:58 PM

Freschel: Funny how Hall fail to mention that he usually appear drunk and late for work.


If I had to act or work for Kurbick, I would have been drunk all the time, too.
 
2012-07-01 05:51:46 PM
Why the f*ck would I like to share my location with moviefone.com?
 
2012-07-01 05:54:06 PM
Knew about 7 of the 25.
 
2012-07-01 05:59:41 PM

Wasn't Looking at his Neck: Saberus Terras: Personally, I'd have a hoot watching R. Lee Ermey's audition tape where he's spewing like a sewer for 15 minutes straight while extras pelt him with oranges and tennis balls.

This is a Kubrick film. No outtakes still exist, I bet.


I'm not finding it on YouTube, but I'd love to see if it actually exists.
 
2012-07-01 06:01:49 PM

rickycal78: LarryDan43: A few days after the movie's release, D'Onofrio was seen again in "Adventures in Babysitting," this time as the muscular, blond-tressed, Thor-lookalike mechanic. His complete transformation between the two films gave him a reputation for both intense preparation and chamelionlike acting skills.

A 15 second part in Adventures in Baby Sitting requires intense preparation and chamelionlike acting skills.

[againstlineofdance.files.wordpress.com image 325x214]

I know it's sarcasm and all but going from doughy fatass crazy bastard to buff tough looking guy that don't remotely look alike in the span of a few months does.


Actually I am impressed by actors that can take themselves to such transformations(natural looking) for the roles. Stephen Root is another that has got roles that you have to read the credits to see it was the same guy. He did Jimmy James(Newsradio) and Milton Waddams (Office Space). No major weight change but very talented actor. D'Onofrio also played the bug alien in MiB and a detective in Law & Order: criminal intent. I don't know how much they earned, yet I consider them successful.
 
2012-07-01 06:05:28 PM

Wasn't Looking at his Neck: This is a Kubrick film. No outtakes still exist, I bet.


Well it was an audition tape, not an outtake so it probably exists.
 
2012-07-01 06:07:17 PM

Raider_dad: If you watch the movie "The D.I." with Jack Webb you can't help but see some crazy similarities the Paris Island part of Full Metal Jacket has to it (but 30 years later)


The only time I've seen The DI was the night before graduation from boot camp. It was an odd night.

On the other hand, I've probably seen the first half of Full Metal Jacket over an hundred times on deployment. Either that or Heartbreak Ridge. These were usually requested by "hey, put it Gunny Highway" or "hey, put in Private Joker." Full Metal Jacket was tended to get shut off right after Pyle offs himself, though sometimes it ran to include the door gunner speech.
 
TKM
2012-07-01 06:12:50 PM
The movie only covers the first half of the book.

For your reading pleasure.

http://www.gustavhasford.com/timers.htm
 
2012-07-01 06:13:16 PM

Raider_dad: If you watch the movie "The D.I." with Jack Webb you can't help but see some crazy similarities the Paris Island part of Full Metal Jacket has to it (but 30 years later)


The gnat search and funeral totally convinced me not even to consider a career in the Marines.

/there's more movie after Pyle offs himself
//Me So Horny scene overrated and short
///no on shoots the guy doing hand jive?
 
2012-07-01 06:28:06 PM
Nope knew them all
 
2012-07-01 06:28:42 PM
I have seen the first half of this movie 67 times. Thanks to a roomie in the barracks that was frankly just a little off and a complete scumbag. Can still recite that part of the movie line for line better than i can Pythons "Holy Grail".
 
2012-07-01 06:58:55 PM
I am become death

/was that explanation included? DNRTFA
 
2012-07-01 07:02:39 PM
I saw this movie when in came out with a few guys I served with when we were having a reunion. We were in awe of the bootcamp and Ermey. We all went to bootcamp in 1980-1981. It was pretty much on the mark. I had no idea it was made in England, I guess barracks are barracks everywhere.
 
2012-07-01 07:12:02 PM
It annoys the hell out of me when I hear people say "I like Full Metal Jacket until they get to Vietnam."

The boot camp section sets up the Vietnam section perfectly. I mean, Sgt. Hartman's words to Joker when he tells him he will be a journalist, "You're a killer, not a writer" comes horribly, tragically true in the end. And that's just one example.
 
2012-07-01 07:15:17 PM
I must have read another trivia piece on FMJ before, because I'm not even much of a fan boy of the film (though I do like it) and I knew most of what's in the article already.

/"I think I was trying to suggest something about the duality of man, sir."
 
2012-07-01 07:15:25 PM

Wasn't Looking at his Neck: This is a Kubrick film. No outtakes still exist, I bet.


The outtakes exist, it's just that the general public will never see them, either as a DVD "extra" or through a leak. Hell, the only reason we know Strangelove originally ended with a pie fight in the War Room is because the scene was in the film until the last minute and press photos of it were distributed (a mistake Kubrick never made again).

/I just watched a documentary about Woody Allen, and he says the original cut of Annie Hall was over two hours long. Personally, I'd love to see a two-hour version of that film, but I know it will never happen, in the same way I know I'll never see Harvey Keitel in Eyes Wide Shut or the pie fight from Strangelove.
 
2012-07-01 07:15:54 PM
Not the audition tape, but R. Lee Ermey as a kid...

Link
 
2012-07-01 07:17:19 PM
According to Ermey, Kubrick told him to really hit Vincent D'Onofrio in the face as he didn't want any phony fake hitting crap in the scene. As Ermey approached D'Onofrio, D'Onofrio told Ermey he would beat the living shiat out of him if he actually hit him in the face.

So Ermey swung at him and hit the brim of his cap which caused the D'Onofrio to flinch and the cap to spin around on his head. Kubrick yelled 'cut'. One take.

www.thespinningimage.co.uk
 
2012-07-01 07:18:13 PM
Oh, and the best single piece of trivia from FMJ involves R Lee Emery, who was the only one in the film allowed to make up his own dialog. After he finished the rant which ends with "...without the pleasure of a reach-around" they called cut, and then, from behind the camera, a quiet voice (Kubrick, who was acting as his own camera operator) asked: "What's a reach-around?"
 
2012-07-01 07:23:47 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Oh, and the best single piece of trivia from FMJ involves R Lee Emery, who was the only one in the film allowed to make up his own dialog. After he finished the rant which ends with "...without the courtesy of a reach-around" they called cut, and then, from behind the camera, a quiet voice (Kubrick, who was acting as his own camera operator) asked: "What's a reach-around?"


ftfy
 
2012-07-01 07:28:14 PM

downstairs: LarryDan43: A 15 second part in Adventures in Baby Sitting requires intense preparation and chamelionlike acting skills.

I don't know much about that scene, but some of the greatest acting instances in film history have been less than 15 seconds.

Watch Glengarry Glen Ross. There are plenty of parts, less than 15 seconds, that tell an amazing story. Specifically Jack Lemmon on the phone to some family member. No specific details are given, but its almost a movie in and of itself.

And a lot of other parts of the movie. Mamet's screenplay does an excellent job of telling stories without spelling them out... and quickly.


It's 3 minutes and Dog my Cats if Thor doesn't deserve coffee.
Link
 
2012-07-01 07:38:06 PM

LarryDan43: A few days after the movie's release, D'Onofrio was seen again in "Adventures in Babysitting," this time as the muscular, blond-tressed, Thor-lookalike mechanic. His complete transformation between the two films gave him a reputation for both intense preparation and chamelionlike acting skills.

A 15 second part in Adventures in Baby Sitting requires intense preparation and chamelionlike acting skills.

[againstlineofdance.files.wordpress.com image 325x214]


I think you may be missing the point.

i.dailymail.co.uki.dailymail.co.uk
 
2012-07-01 07:44:07 PM
When I moved into Fairmount Towers, the Wichita State University dormitories, in 1988, there was a Colombian guy named David on my floor. He had an audiotape of the entire movie "Full Metal Jacket" and listened to it all the time on his Walkman while blasting around town on his Honda Hurricane sport bike.
 
2012-07-01 07:52:31 PM

HempHead: According to Ermey, Kubrick told him to really hit Vincent D'Onofrio in the face as he didn't want any phony fake hitting crap in the scene. As Ermey approached D'Onofrio, D'Onofrio told Ermey he would beat the living shiat out of him if he actually hit him in the face.

So Ermey swung at him and hit the brim of his cap which caused the D'Onofrio to flinch and the cap to spin around on his head. Kubrick yelled 'cut'. One take.

[www.thespinningimage.co.uk image 137x98]


That wouldn't surprise me. Even out of shape, D'Onofrio could have probably kicked his ass.
 
2012-07-01 08:18:04 PM
R. Lee Ermey was an actual, honest-to-goodness Marine Drill Instructor? He gives the lamest, weakest punch I've ever seen in a movie in Naked Gun 33 1/3.
 
2012-07-01 08:35:59 PM
TKM The movie only covers the first half of the book.

QFT. I was disappointed with FMJ when I saw it because the book's a lot better than the movie

/Rafterman critically underutilized
 
2012-07-01 08:42:19 PM

stoli n coke: That wouldn't surprise me. Even out of shape, D'Onofrio could have probably kicked his ass.


It would be a hell of a fight, I bet. d'Onofrio has those crazy eyes, and is a big guy, Ermey is a combat Marine, and all sinew and muscle.

R. Lee is a HELL of an awesome guy who is very accommodating of his fans. I saw him at DFW at about 6am. I just thanked him for his service, USO stuff, and hours of entertainment. He graciously thanked me, and introduced his wife. So, I had about 30 seconds with the man.

This story was brought you by Cool & Bro, LLC.
 
2012-07-01 09:11:20 PM
More Full Metal Jacket trivia from IMDB, some which this article seems to help itself to...

IMDB
 
2012-07-01 09:24:00 PM

jake_lex: It annoys the hell out of me when I hear people say "I like Full Metal Jacket until they get to Vietnam."

The boot camp section sets up the Vietnam section perfectly. I mean, Sgt. Hartman's words to Joker when he tells him he will be a journalist, "You're a killer, not a writer" comes horribly, tragically true in the end. And that's just one example.


Marine, what is that button on your body armor?!
 
2012-07-01 09:28:54 PM

idrow: Modine also wrote that he and the other actors playing Marines underwent realistic boot camp training, which included being yelled at by Ermey for up to 10 hours a day.

Holy crap, being screamed at by Ermey for 10 hours a day - I would have had a nervous breakdown


Try 18+ hours a day. And usually there are 3-4 of them, all of whom take Ermey as a role model (minus the swearing these days). It farking sucks.

/Parris Island graduate
//The whole farking platoon takes turns doing firewatch on the last night
///Yes, you hear that line 70-80 times that night.
 
2012-07-01 09:36:37 PM
 
2012-07-01 09:46:18 PM
FullMetalDisney

*contains some crude language
 
2012-07-01 10:03:12 PM

jake_lex: It annoys the hell out of me when I hear people say "I like Full Metal Jacket until they get to Vietnam."

The boot camp section sets up the Vietnam section perfectly. I mean, Sgt. Hartman's words to Joker when he tells him he will be a journalist, "You're a killer, not a writer" comes horribly, tragically true in the end. And that's just one example.


In the book, Joker kills Cowboy. I'm not going to say how or why, but this is a true statement.
 
2012-07-01 10:09:48 PM
What happens to Animal Mother in the book?
 
2012-07-01 10:35:48 PM
The first half of the movie is often daily viewing for some Marine Corps DI's, Army Drill Sgt's and Air Force MTI's. The Navy watches Can't Stop the Music.
 
2012-07-01 10:37:28 PM

lack of warmth: rickycal78: LarryDan43: A few days after the movie's release, D'Onofrio was seen again in "Adventures in Babysitting," this time as the muscular, blond-tressed, Thor-lookalike mechanic. His complete transformation between the two films gave him a reputation for both intense preparation and chamelionlike acting skills.

A 15 second part in Adventures in Baby Sitting requires intense preparation and chamelionlike acting skills.

[againstlineofdance.files.wordpress.com image 325x214]

I know it's sarcasm and all but going from doughy fatass crazy bastard to buff tough looking guy that don't remotely look alike in the span of a few months does.

Actually I am impressed by actors that can take themselves to such transformations(natural looking) for the roles. Stephen Root is another that has got roles that you have to read the credits to see it was the same guy. He did Jimmy James(Newsradio) and Milton Waddams (Office Space). No major weight change but very talented actor. D'Onofrio also played the bug alien in MiB and a detective in Law & Order: criminal intent. I don't know how much they earned, yet I consider them successful.


upload.wikimedia.org

IMHO, best episode of a television series ever.
 
2012-07-01 10:42:39 PM

Tryfan: What happens to Animal Mother in the book?


It's been a while, but I seem to recall that he was killed "offscreen," so to speak, after Joker returned to his duties as a pogue but before he was reassigned to the infantry as punishment for wearing a peace sign. He eventually ended up in Cowboy's platoon, but by then Animal Mother had died. I could be a little off on the details, though.
 
2012-07-01 11:01:03 PM

bhcompy: lack of warmth: rickycal78: LarryDan43:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 324x257]

IMHO, best episode of a television series ever.


If it isn't, then I don't know what else is...
 
TKM
2012-07-01 11:01:18 PM

Tryfan: What happens to Animal Mother in the book?


This is the last line of the first book.

I wave my hand and Mother takes the point.
 
2012-07-01 11:06:14 PM
If you take out the cheats, this is a list of 20 things.
 
2012-07-01 11:08:53 PM
25 things you didn't know?

Knew 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 11, 12, 13, 25.

And 23-24 were the same factoid, really.

Using a CPI calculator to adjust for inflation, that $30 million movie should cost about $60 million today. When's the last time you heard about a big time war movie working on a budget of less than $100 million? Remember all the hubbub when Water World went up to $175 million, adjusted to today's figure around $260 million. Just last year Disney blew $150 million on an animated piece of crap.

Sometimes it seems that Adam Sandler is the only person in Hollywood trying to control the costs and he's still spending $80-$90 million per film.
 
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