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(Moviefone)   Why Full Metal Jacket almost became Die Hard With a Full Metal Breakfast Club and 23 other things you didn't know about the movie that made you afraid of jelly donuts   (news.moviefone.com) divider line 76
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2012-07-01 11:13:41 PM
TKM: Tryfan: What happens to Animal Mother in the book?

This is the last line of the first book.

I wave my hand and Mother takes the point.


You are correct, I retract my previous statement. Practically everyone else in the platoon was killed off-camera, but Cowboy and Animal Mother remained.
 
2012-07-01 11:16:08 PM
jake_lex: It annoys the hell out of me when I hear people say "I like Full Metal Jacket until they get to Vietnam."

The boot camp section sets up the Vietnam section perfectly. I mean, Sgt. Hartman's words to Joker when he tells him he will be a journalist, "You're a killer, not a writer" comes horribly, tragically true in the end. And that's just one example.


I'm not a war movie buff, I'm really not into war period.But I love Full Metal Jacket. I only saw this because my father watched every war movie ever made while I was growing up. The Vietnam scene is perfect. It's a slice of life of one soldiers experience. There's 9000 war movies with shiat blowing up all over, this one is totally different. I was shocked when I looked up the movie (though I saw Stanley from the Office, it wasn't), and saw how almost everyone hated the second half. The slow pacing is what made it. You also saw Modine as a jokester grow up before your eyes as his friend died in his arms.

/not a Kubrick fan either, never saw 2001 or any of his other movies.
 
2012-07-01 11:29:57 PM
I saw FML in the theater. When they were firing on that building in in the second half of the movie, I was shocked to hear the sound of live rounds. It was an awesome sound !
 
2012-07-01 11:36:08 PM
Ya talk the talk. But do ya walk the walk??
 
2012-07-01 11:36:14 PM
Funny, looking at the wikipedia page for FMJ, it seems that almost everything in this article is listed there.

People get paid for this? Where do I sign up?

Anyway, I was going to mention something about the film you don't know inre: aspect ratio but it looks like what I originally thought was wrong. Kubrick filmed in 1.85:1 but hated black bars, so he just allowed full frame copies to go out to consumers. There's a widescreen edition out but since it isn't on Netflix and I don't buy DVDs anymore, I suppose that's just not in my immediate future.

Humbug.
 
2012-07-02 02:18:12 AM
"So he made an audition reel in which he generated a sponataneous stream of foul-mouthed insults directed at a group of extras -- all while having oranges and tennis balls thrown at him -- that ran for 15 minutes. That got him the job."

I really love R. Lee Ermey. Just when you think the guy couldn't be anymore bad ass. I knew he had originally been brought on as an adviser, but had no idea he did this.
 
2012-07-02 03:07:12 AM
Saberus Terras: Personally, I'd have a hoot watching R. Lee Ermey's audition tape where he's spewing like a sewer for 15 minutes straight while extras pelt him with oranges and tennis balls.

This is an urban legend, actually. He set the record straight during a Q&A session at the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" remake premiere. In order to learn how to deliver natural-sounding dialog, his acting coach would play catch with him while he delivered his lines. So while occasionally there was an orange or a tennis ball involved, this mythical tape does not exist, nor was he ever intentionally pelted with anything.

If it did exist, don't you think that would have gotten out by now?
 
2012-07-02 07:18:42 AM
mat catastrophe: Anyway, I was going to mention something about the film you don't know inre: aspect ratio but it looks like what I originally thought was wrong. Kubrick filmed in 1.85:1 but hated black bars, so he just allowed full frame copies to go out to consumers. There's a widescreen edition out but since it isn't on Netflix and I don't buy DVDs anymore, I suppose that's just not in my immediate future.

No Blu-ray huh?

So how's that DVD-quality "HD" with compressed to hell sound working for you?
 
2012-07-02 07:21:58 AM
hbk72777:
/not a Kubrick fan either, never saw 2001 or any of his other movies.


You never saw The Shining?
 
2012-07-02 08:00:10 AM
peterthx: mat catastrophe: Anyway, I was going to mention something about the film you don't know inre: aspect ratio but it looks like what I originally thought was wrong. Kubrick filmed in 1.85:1 but hated black bars, so he just allowed full frame copies to go out to consumers. There's a widescreen edition out but since it isn't on Netflix and I don't buy DVDs anymore, I suppose that's just not in my immediate future.

No Blu-ray huh?

So how's that DVD-quality "HD" with compressed to hell sound working for you?


Works fine for me. I'm not one of the people who pretends digital audio and video can ever be better than just marginally OK.

Besides, most of my viewing is on a laptop which would sound like crap regardless.

And, even if I had the disposable income available to me, I would not blow it on a Blu-ray player and maybe if someone gave me one I would not spend money on physical media.

That shiat's dead.
 
2012-07-02 08:13:11 AM
idrow: Modine also wrote that he and the other actors playing Marines underwent realistic boot camp training, which included being yelled at by Ermey for up to 10 hours a day.

Holy crap, being screamed at by Ermey for 10 hours a day - I would have had a nervous breakdown


In another interview with Ermey that I saw, he said he always stayed in character on set as well. Years later he would see some of his co-stars in L.A. on the street an they would go out of their way to avoid him or not talk to him because they still felt intimidated - that's how strong an impact he made on them.
 
2012-07-02 09:29:39 AM
FTA: Ermey,...by playing similar characters (usually Southern, authoritarian types) in dozens of movies (from "Fletch Lives" to "Dead Man Walking"), TV shows, video games, and commercials.

Jimmy Lee Farnsworth was a similar role???

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-02 09:54:25 AM
Odd Bird: FTA: Ermey,...by playing similar characters (usually Southern, authoritarian types) in dozens of movies (from "Fletch Lives" to "Dead Man Walking"), TV shows, video games, and commercials.

Jimmy Lee Farnsworth was a similar role???

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x270]


Yeah, how they chose that example instead of The Frightener's is strange
whatthemovie.com
 
2012-07-02 09:59:05 AM
FTFA: 13. To make England look more like tropical Vietnam, Kubrick said he flew in 200 palm trees from Spain and 100,000 plastic jungle plants from Hong Kong.

Which is the plane they let you fly after you've flown the rubber dog-shiat route for 6 months.
 
2012-07-02 10:20:03 AM
Ermey wrote 150 pages of insults?

Now that's commitment to your craft.
 
2012-07-02 10:39:56 AM
Evenbiggerknickers: I am become death

/was that explanation included? DNRTFA


When I found out about that I was left thinking "where would he ever hear about that book?" I doubt he would have ever read that on his own but then the book may go into more detail.
 
2012-07-02 11:02:48 AM
AxL sANe: In another interview with Ermey that I saw, he said he always stayed in character on set as well.

Sounds unnecessarily exhausting, but while I'd like some corroboration, it doesn't sound too far-fetched. The best actors don't act; they role-play.
 
2012-07-02 11:29:30 AM
peterthx: mat catastrophe: Anyway, I was going to mention something about the film you don't know inre: aspect ratio but it looks like what I originally thought was wrong. Kubrick filmed in 1.85:1 but hated black bars, so he just allowed full frame copies to go out to consumers. There's a widescreen edition out but since it isn't on Netflix and I don't buy DVDs anymore, I suppose that's just not in my immediate future.

No Blu-ray huh?

So how's that DVD-quality "HD" with compressed to hell sound working for you?


There is a blu-ray wide-screen version, I own a copy.
 
2012-07-02 12:45:56 PM
sarek_smile: I saw FML in the theater. When they were firing on that building in in the second half of the movie, I was shocked to hear the sound of live rounds. It was an awesome sound !

Haha, got a kick out of this typo.


Also, I'd love to see the 150 pages of insults. Bet that's a great read.
 
2012-07-02 02:04:36 PM
7. What's the R. in R. Lee Ermey stand for? Ronald

man this is some great behind the scenes trivia!
 
2012-07-02 02:15:40 PM
idrow: Modine also wrote that he and the other actors playing Marines underwent realistic boot camp training, which included being yelled at by Ermey for up to 10 hours a day.

Holy crap, being screamed at by Ermey for 10 hours a day - I would have had a nervous breakdown


It's been quite a while since I've seen Full Metal Jacket but I remember first watching that scene and feeling scared as shiat.

Also, I didn't Vincent D'Onofrio was the kid. I just started watching re-runs of Law and Order: Criminal Intent and I was thinking where do I know that name from! Then I connected the two and that was before I read #22 on the list stating that was D'Onofrio.
 
2012-07-02 03:17:34 PM
Wasn't Looking at his Neck: Saberus Terras: Personally, I'd have a hoot watching R. Lee Ermey's audition tape where he's spewing like a sewer for 15 minutes straight while extras pelt him with oranges and tennis balls.

This is a Kubrick film. No outtakes still exist, I bet.


Usually true, but I do have a DVD my friend bought in Japan of almost 90-minutes of The Shining extra footage, and they even made a documentary on the filming of it, though it hasn't been re-released onto DVD (I saw it on VHS).

I have seen torrents of extra footage for FMJ but stupidly didn't download them and now can't find them.
 
2012-07-02 05:16:45 PM

lack of warmth


Actually I am impressed by actors that can take themselves to such transformations(natural looking) for the roles. Stephen Root is another that has got roles that you have to read the credits to see it was the same guy. He did Jimmy James(Newsradio) and Milton Waddams (Office Space). No major weight change but very talented actor.


Root is also the judge on 'Justified'.
 
2012-07-02 06:03:41 PM
After they were done filming for the day, these guys:

i917.photobucket.com

Would party with these guys:

i236.photobucket.com

Aliens at IMDB
 
2012-07-03 06:45:18 AM
mat catastrophe: And, even if I had the disposable income available to me, I would not blow it on a Blu-ray player and maybe if someone gave me one I would not spend money on physical media.

That shiat's dead.


You can't afford $79 for a BD player?

Physical media is not dead, and compared to it streaming video pretty much sucks. You'll never get a "buffering" message during a DVD or BD either.
 
2012-07-03 07:42:09 AM
peterthx:
You can't afford $79 for a BD player?


It's less "I can't afford it" and more "I have different priorities for the allocation of limited resources."

Physical media is not dead, and compared to it streaming video pretty much sucks. You'll never get a "buffering" message during a DVD or BD either.

Oh, I used to believe that too. Then I realized that I wasn't even watching any of my DVDs and hadn't bought one in years. So I sold almost everyone I had (keeping only those few I was reasonably certain I couldn't find as a stream or in a library if I felt like seeing it).

And I'm willing to accept a loss of fidelity. Then again, I don't have "THX" in my username :P
 
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