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2012-07-01 10:05:28 AM
List fails without House.

I now agree that ending it after season 5 would have been infinitely better than the piece of shiat ending we got.

Even ending it after season 7, with House on a beach and on the run, would have been better than the drizzling, corn flecked shiat they passed off as the series finale.
 
2012-07-01 10:34:09 AM
Supernatural sort of jumped the shark after the Apocalypse.
 
2012-07-01 10:56:55 AM
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2012-07-01 11:21:33 AM
The Wire? fark that, watching McNulty go completely off the rails was painful, yet awesome TV.
 
2012-07-01 11:22:43 AM
List fails without Arrested Development which should have ended after season 2.
 
2012-07-01 11:25:25 AM

FirstNationalBastard: List fails without House.

I now agree that ending it after season 5 would have been infinitely better than the piece of shiat ending we got.

Even ending it after season 7, with House on a beach and on the run, would have been better than the drizzling, corn flecked shiat they passed off as the series finale.


This^
 
2012-07-01 11:32:59 AM
I think the idea of "Simpsons: Behind the Laughter" would've made a decent series finale, but it came out a couple seasons into the show's decline. Outside of ending the show after season 8 or 9, I don't think there's a definitive spot you can really just stop the series like there was on other shows.



The most opportune spot to end Weeds was season 3. Does anyone know if season 3 of Weeds planned to be a series finale at one point? It kind of felt like it, yet the show's been going on for an additional 5 seasons. It's not bad, but it's not nearly as good.


I would agree with the proposed Office ending as well.
 
2012-07-01 11:34:48 AM
I'm surprised Supernatural isn't on the list. that said, even shiatty Supernatural is pretty entertaining.
 
2012-07-01 11:35:00 AM
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You dragged it out years too long and led me to this terrible terrible acting moment!
 
2012-07-01 11:37:49 AM
Buffy should have ended at Season 5. Season 7 did okay, but Season 6 pretty much undid all the goodwill I had toward that show.

Also, I agree on House, and it is the poster child for the 2000s on how not to handle an excellent show.

ER should have ended much earlier then it did too.
 
2012-07-01 11:38:27 AM
List fails without every reality TV show. They all suck and should have ended long ago.

Also SyFy in my opinion should have ended after it changed its name,
 
2012-07-01 11:40:43 AM

nucrash: Also SyFy in my opinion should have ended after it changed its name,


...and started showing wrestling YES WE KNOW

/tired complaint is tired
 
2012-07-01 11:41:21 AM

nucrash: List fails without every reality TV show. They all suck and should have ended long ago.

Also SyFy in my opinion should have ended after it changed its name,


Speaking of SyFy, SG1 should have ended well before the Orii ever showed up.
 
2012-07-01 11:41:51 AM
"The Office" still pains me. Honestly, I sort of do pretend it is off the air as I don't watch it anymore. While the show had already begun to decline at that point, ending with Michael Scott leaving would have been perfect. It was that character and the Jim & Pam story arc that were the glue of the show - once those things were resolved what is left ?


Oh, yeah and Simpsons - still better than half the crap out there, but 2002 was the last year I remember consistently enjoying it.
 
2012-07-01 11:42:39 AM

Bloody William: I'm surprised Supernatural isn't on the list. that said, even shiatty Supernatural is pretty entertaining.


That's what I said earlier, I think they planned on it ending after they stopped the apocalypse but the CW doesn't cancel anything. That's why Charmed lasted a couple seasons too long.

And I enjoyed all the '24' seasons, some more than others but I think it was a great show and I wish they would do a movie.
 
2012-07-01 11:43:06 AM
The Big Bang Theory deserves a spot on this list in advance.
 
2012-07-01 11:46:05 AM

Evil-Imposter: "The Office" still pains me. Honestly, I sort of do pretend it is off the air as I don't watch it anymore. While the show had already begun to decline at that point, ending with Michael Scott leaving would have been perfect. It was that character and the Jim & Pam story arc that were the glue of the show - once those things were resolved what is left ?


What I would have done differently with The Office: Have Michael leave a few seasons earlier, before he turned completely into a petulant man-child. Then have one season with Jim as the manager, ending with him realizing he's basically turning into Michael.
 
2012-07-01 11:47:29 AM

KellyKellyKelly: nucrash: Also SyFy in my opinion should have ended after it changed its name,

...and started showing wrestling YES WE KNOW

/tired complaint is tired


Not as tired as subby whining about The Simpsons.SyFy has joined the ever growing list of channels that have nothing to do with their initial concept. Wrestling, ghost hunting shows... and those farking original movies, while at least keeping the Sci-Fi theme and has been actors employed, are brutal to sit through.

Although I no longer whine about their canceling MST3K though. It was a dick move but it turned out for the best since we got Rifftrax instead. Ripping on newer movies is much funnier.
 
2012-07-01 11:48:16 AM
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2012-07-01 11:51:52 AM

NeoCortex42: nucrash: List fails without every reality TV show. They all suck and should have ended long ago.

Also SyFy in my opinion should have ended after it changed its name,

Speaking of SyFy, SG1 should have ended well before the Orii ever showed up.


And BSG should have never found Earth and ended in Season 3 or earlier. Eureka should have never did the time travel bit, and numerous other series should have never happened or died off sooner.

Star Trek the Next Generation shouldn't have had a season 7 although the finale was a good episode. Babylon 5 shouldn't have had a season 5, but should have had some real direction at some point.

House should have ended at season 7 or season 5. Family Guy had a dry spell there for a while, but actually came out of it this last season.
 
2012-07-01 11:52:46 AM

Mugato: Although I no longer whine about their canceling MST3K though. It was a dick move but it turned out for the best since we got Rifftrax instead. Ripping on newer movies is much funnier.


I've always thought the complaint about dropping MST3k was an odd one. For one thing, it's probably hard enough airing a new show that takes up a 2 hour timeslot, but it's another to keep airing reruns of a cancelled 2 hour long series. Granted, they filled that newly opened timeslot with shiat, but that's Syfy for you.
 
2012-07-01 11:55:13 AM

Evil-Imposter: Oh, yeah and Simpsons - still better than half the crap out there, but 2002 was the last year I remember consistently enjoying it.



yeah....that's about the time it started to really just get unwatchable. or boring is the better wrod for it.

anymore i just watch the Halloween show but even the last few of those have been forgettable.
 
2012-07-01 11:56:04 AM
Firefly should have been canceled after the pilot. That Han Solo wannabe had 0 screen presence.
 
2012-07-01 11:57:06 AM

nucrash: NeoCortex42: nucrash: List fails without every reality TV show. They all suck and should have ended long ago.

Also SyFy in my opinion should have ended after it changed its name,

Speaking of SyFy, SG1 should have ended well before the Orii ever showed up.

And BSG should have never found Earth and ended in Season 3 or earlier. Eureka should have never did the time travel bit, and numerous other series should have never happened or died off sooner.

Star Trek the Next Generation shouldn't have had a season 7 although the finale was a good episode. Babylon 5 shouldn't have had a season 5, but should have had some real direction at some point.

House should have ended at season 7 or season 5. Family Guy had a dry spell there for a while, but actually came out of it this last season.


I agree with Babylon 5, and almost put it down myself. The reason I didn't mention it is not because it shouldn't have had a fifth season, but it should have had a confirmed fifth season much sooner. The problem was that JMS planned a full five-year arc. Then he was told he might not get a fifth season, which is why season four moves so quickly. Then he suddenly gets a fifth season with the main plot already tied up. If the studio hadn't jerked him around, both season four and five would have been much stronger.

As for Eureka, I was ticked they didn't revert back to the original timeline. I could be fine with a few episode arc of the alt-timeline, but to completely reset the world like that annoys the hell out of me.

Speaking of Eureka, the finale in a few weeks better end with Jack and Zoe leaving town and passing themselves entering. They have the setup there. They only need to follow through.
 
2012-07-01 11:57:24 AM

rickythepenguin: Evil-Imposter: Oh, yeah and Simpsons - still better than half the crap out there, but 2002 was the last year I remember consistently enjoying it.


yeah....that's about the time it started to really just get unwatchable. or boring is the better wrod for it.

anymore i just watch the Halloween show but even the last few of those have been forgettable.


This exactly, it's usually always worth tuning in for Treehouse of Horror. And I am sure there have been some gems scattered throughout the last decade, I just haven't made the effort to find them.
 
2012-07-01 11:59:19 AM

nucrash: NeoCortex42: nucrash: List fails without every reality TV show. They all suck and should have ended long ago.

Also SyFy in my opinion should have ended after it changed its name,

Speaking of SyFy, SG1 should have ended well before the Orii ever showed up.

And BSG should have never found Earth and ended in Season 3 or earlier. Eureka should have never did the time travel bit, and numerous other series should have never happened or died off sooner.

Star Trek the Next Generation shouldn't have had a season 7 although the finale was a good episode. Babylon 5 shouldn't have had a season 5, but should have had some real direction at some point.

House should have ended at season 7 or season 5. Family Guy had a dry spell there for a while, but actually came out of it this last season.


In fairness, Babylon 5 was supposed to be a 5 season story arc, but when J. Michael Straczynski thought it was going to be cancelled after season 4, he jammed most of season 5 into it. Season 5 did wind up being a bit of a waste, but the series finale was as it had been originally planned

/just finished watching the entire series again
 
2012-07-01 11:59:49 AM

NeoCortex42: Evil-Imposter: "The Office" still pains me. Honestly, I sort of do pretend it is off the air as I don't watch it anymore. While the show had already begun to decline at that point, ending with Michael Scott leaving would have been perfect. It was that character and the Jim & Pam story arc that were the glue of the show - once those things were resolved what is left ?

What I would have done differently with The Office: Have Michael leave a few seasons earlier, before he turned completely into a petulant man-child. Then have one season with Jim as the manager, ending with him realizing he's basically turning into Michael.


You know, I kind of thought it WAS heading that direction around season 5 I think? That was where the show started showing its cracks. The first 3, probably 4, seasons really seemed to have a direction - as if the wroters and producers knew exactly where the whole thing was headed. Turns out they didn't.
 
2012-07-01 12:02:39 PM
Notice how there aren't any British shows on that list (although Red Dwarf should be) but in general, the Brits end when the story is told. The Americans end when there is no more money to be milked from something.
 
2012-07-01 12:03:15 PM
Oh look, another Fark thread where there will be Simpsons bashing.

*yawn*
 
2012-07-01 12:03:49 PM

FeedTheCollapse: I've always thought the complaint about dropping MST3k was an odd one. For one thing, it's probably hard enough airing a new show that takes up a 2 hour timeslot, but it's another to keep airing reruns of a cancelled 2 hour long series. Granted, they filled that newly opened timeslot with shiat, but that's Syfy for you.


They used to run them in one hour increments in prime time but I think that was on Comedy Central. Still, how much could that show possibly cost to make? They practically shot it in their garage in Minnesota. There's merchandise, conventions, DVDs (which was always tricky because of getting the rights but still, I just watched the last 15 minutes of a SyFy original movie about a CGI Bigfoots starring Danny Bonaduce and one of the sons from the Brady Bunch).

But again, I like Rifftrax even though it takes a little more money and effort to get to it.
 
2012-07-01 12:06:30 PM
In my mind the Simpsons finale is the Frank Grimes episode. It was intended as a format bender, giving us a chance to see what it's like when a person who is subject to real world consequences enters Homer's world, so the episode delivers on the kind of weird meta shiat you want to see in a finale, but at the same time works as the kind of regular episode tasteful exit that shows like Futurama and King of the Hill often wisely go with. Plus it comes at the end of the true classic era (seasons 1-8), in the last episodes by Oakley and Weinstein, who were the last people to have a clue on how to run the show. Of course there were many great episode holdovers by that point (season 9 features episodes from every showrunner in the Simpson's history), but they could have ran a half-season to clear them out. Unfortunately, ending with the season 8 production run would mean that we would still have the Armin Tamzarian episode, but not the episode about Homer's handgun, which is one of my favorites.


Behind the Laughter is funny but it's completely removed and dumbed-down from the classic Simpson's humor stylings, and it comes after two and a half terrible seasons.
 
2012-07-01 12:08:42 PM

Gubbo: the Brits end when the story is told


Yeah, that Doctor Who was a tight, compact show. Beginning, middle, end, done.

Breaking Bad, Dexter, The Sopranos, all of the Star Treks (except the original and Enterprise), Cheers, Friends, Seinfeld all ended or are ending intentionally while they still could be making money. I don't see Game of Thrones going on forever either.
 
2012-07-01 12:10:05 PM

Gubbo: Notice how there aren't any British shows on that list (although Red Dwarf should be) but in general, the Brits end when the story is told. The Americans end when there is no more money to be milked from something.



yeah, that's one thing I liked about Life In Mars. that was farking awesome.

The US version was shiat. in the BBC, Sam was a scrawny, scrappy little guy and he had chemistry with that zaftig female police woman. int he US version, he was this 6'2 alpha male with supermodel looks and the police gal was equally hot and thus unbelievable. the casting alone took out 60% of the original's charm.

anyways.
 
2012-07-01 12:12:43 PM

Mugato: FeedTheCollapse: I've always thought the complaint about dropping MST3k was an odd one. For one thing, it's probably hard enough airing a new show that takes up a 2 hour timeslot, but it's another to keep airing reruns of a cancelled 2 hour long series. Granted, they filled that newly opened timeslot with shiat, but that's Syfy for you.

They used to run them in one hour increments in prime time but I think that was on Comedy Central. Still, how much could that show possibly cost to make? They practically shot it in their garage in Minnesota. There's merchandise, conventions, DVDs (which was always tricky because of getting the rights but still, I just watched the last 15 minutes of a SyFy original movie about a CGI Bigfoots starring Danny Bonaduce and one of the sons from the Brady Bunch).

But again, I like Rifftrax even though it takes a little more money and effort to get to it.


Even with re-runs, the licensing just seemed to be too much trouble for SciFi. After the original run of the show ended, they kept repeating the same dozen or so episodes it seemed. I didn't start watching regularly until sometime during Season 8. The only way I was ever able to see the older episodes was through buying individual VHS and eventually the DVD sets. Even then, it wasn't until I downloaded the whole series that I was able to watch all the episodes.
 
2012-07-01 12:15:14 PM
I thought the Simpsons jumped the shark for awhile but the last few seasons have felt like a surprising return to some of their roots.

\ I read the list for Heroes
\\ I leave satisfied.
 
2012-07-01 12:16:21 PM

Mugato: Breaking Bad, Dexter, The Sopranos, all of the Star Treks (except the original and Enterprise), Cheers, Friends, Seinfeld all ended or are ending intentionally while they still could be making money. I don't see Game of Thrones going on forever either.


Sopranos didn't really get to end on their own terms. Splitting the final season in 2 just led to some incredibly boring episodes in the middle.

I'll give you Breaking Bad (again except for splitting the final season in 2).
 
2012-07-01 12:17:58 PM
So what about the inverse, shows that didn't get the ending they deserved?

/leave out Firefly, just because we all already about it
 
2012-07-01 12:20:07 PM

NeoCortex42: As for Eureka, I was ticked they didn't revert back to the original timeline. I could be fine with a few episode arc of the alt-timeline, but to completely reset the world like that annoys the hell out of me.


It seemed kinda awkward at first, but eventually I grew used to it. You gotta admit, Fargo being in charge of GD made for some cool stuff. And Deputy Andy is pretty cool.

But the stuff with Henry and his wife and Jo as head of security were kinda meh.
 
2012-07-01 12:23:40 PM

NeoCortex42: Mugato: FeedTheCollapse: I've always thought the complaint about dropping MST3k was an odd one. For one thing, it's probably hard enough airing a new show that takes up a 2 hour timeslot, but it's another to keep airing reruns of a cancelled 2 hour long series. Granted, they filled that newly opened timeslot with shiat, but that's Syfy for you.

They used to run them in one hour increments in prime time but I think that was on Comedy Central. Still, how much could that show possibly cost to make? They practically shot it in their garage in Minnesota. There's merchandise, conventions, DVDs (which was always tricky because of getting the rights but still, I just watched the last 15 minutes of a SyFy original movie about a CGI Bigfoots starring Danny Bonaduce and one of the sons from the Brady Bunch).

But again, I like Rifftrax even though it takes a little more money and effort to get to it.

Even with re-runs, the licensing just seemed to be too much trouble for SciFi. After the original run of the show ended, they kept repeating the same dozen or so episodes it seemed. I didn't start watching regularly until sometime during Season 8. The only way I was ever able to see the older episodes was through buying individual VHS and eventually the DVD sets. Even then, it wasn't until I downloaded the whole series that I was able to watch all the episodes.




pretty much that. The show may not have cost much, but it seemed like a lot of holes to jump through. SciFi would air the whole 2 hours as well; sometimes twice a night. To me, the complaint about Syfy generally treating its actual Sci-Fi shows like shiat and airing non-Sci-Fi material is a much more valid complaint.



phimuskapsi: I thought the Simpsons jumped the shark for awhile but the last few seasons have felt like a surprising return to some of their roots.




there's been some good episodes, but some really bad episodes as well. It's an improvement I guess in that it's now back at season 11 quality; which is basically the show at its worst, but there's some actual gems scattered enough to keep the show interesting enough to come back for. That's at least an improvement over 10+ years of mediocrity that offered little incentive to keep watching, but the really bad episodes are bad this season.
 
2012-07-01 12:25:54 PM

rickycal78: NeoCortex42: As for Eureka, I was ticked they didn't revert back to the original timeline. I could be fine with a few episode arc of the alt-timeline, but to completely reset the world like that annoys the hell out of me.

It seemed kinda awkward at first, but eventually I grew used to it. You gotta admit, Fargo being in charge of GD made for some cool stuff. And Deputy Andy is pretty cool.

But the stuff with Henry and his wife and Jo as head of security were kinda meh.


Fargo in charge works great, but they could have surely found a way to put him in charge without a timeline shift. Also, I really hope the show stops with unmasking hidden spies. It's like Oprah is giving them away or something. "You're a spy! And you're a spy! Everybody's a spy!"
 
2012-07-01 12:29:06 PM

taxandspend: I'm surprised no one's tried to troll the thread with "Community."




me as well. That said, I think if the next season is subpar, I think it would've been that way even with Harmon's involvement. Despite some great episodes, I thought season 3 was rather disappointing post-hiatus.
 
2012-07-01 12:31:06 PM

taxandspend: I'm surprised no one's tried to troll the thread with "Community."


That all depends on how it does in the fall. As it is now, I think it ended perfectly. We got some great episodes this season. Ideally, we get a good fourth season and everybody graduates and moves on. I don't think anything more than a fourth season would work well without it dropping in quality like The Office.

Also, 30 Rock is still on. I hardly see that mentioned anywhere. I still watch it, but it's a whole lot of "meh" nowadays.

As for another show that went too long: How the hell is Whitney having a season 2?
 
2012-07-01 12:33:12 PM

NeoCortex42: Also, 30 Rock is still on. I hardly see that mentioned anywhere. I still watch it, but it's a whole lot of "meh" nowadays.




eh, this last season was really hit or miss. Some great episodes, some duds pretty much alternating between the two each week. I thought it was generally pretty consistent up until this season though, so I won't really hold it against the show if they end the show after this next season.
 
2012-07-01 12:35:09 PM

Cinaed: So what about the inverse, shows that didn't get the ending they deserved?

/leave out Firefly, just because we all already about it



I think Enterprise was really starting to get good before it was canceled. It also didn't completely suck in its first season like TNG and DS9 did. Voyager was constantly mediocre from the beginning but TNG and DS9 had horrendous first seasons but they eventually improved. Enterprise was never really all that bad and started to get good then it was axed.
 
2012-07-01 12:35:25 PM
I agree with Scrubs. I loved that show but I blame the network on that.
They had to run it like they were being cancelled every year and when they finally didn't, it was too late.
That last season at the teaching hospital was awful.
Same as My Name Is Earl. It's like they had a good idea but couldn't think past season 2.

Also, I'd put on BURN NOTICE. I love the show, but how farking long can he keep "looking for the guys who burned me"?

Also....list fails without The A-TEAM. I won't even buy season 5. It kills me.
 
2012-07-01 12:36:01 PM

NeoCortex42: rickycal78: NeoCortex42: As for Eureka, I was ticked they didn't revert back to the original timeline. I could be fine with a few episode arc of the alt-timeline, but to completely reset the world like that annoys the hell out of me.

It seemed kinda awkward at first, but eventually I grew used to it. You gotta admit, Fargo being in charge of GD made for some cool stuff. And Deputy Andy is pretty cool.

But the stuff with Henry and his wife and Jo as head of security were kinda meh.

Fargo in charge works great, but they could have surely found a way to put him in charge without a timeline shift. Also, I really hope the show stops with unmasking hidden spies. It's like Oprah is giving them away or something. "You're a spy! And you're a spy! Everybody's a spy!"


Yeah, that bit is getting old. The senator, Beverly, Henry's wife, other timeline Henry. And as much as I like Felicia Day, I think they overplayed bringing her back, just way too many episodes devoted to how they're bringing her back. Losing her completely would have brought some character to Fargo if they would have run with her being dead dead after her dying in the virtual world. I also miss the Australian wild life guy, he brought some pretty good moments to the show.

All that said, I can't wait for Warehouse 13 to come back. I have a pretty good idea how they're going to do it, but I want to see if I'm right.
 
2012-07-01 12:36:18 PM

NeoCortex42: As for another show that went too long: How the hell is Whitney having a season an episode 2?


That's where I got off that boat. I caught an episode on an airplane once, and about nine minutes in I decided I'd rather stare at the back of the seat in front of me. I had the same bizarre, perplexed feeling watching that garbage that I did when I accidentally caught an episode of The Bill Engvall Show; I kept expecting the main character to turn to the camera, break the fourth wall, and go into a lengthy discussion about precisely why this was not funny and why network television should stop making shows like this.
 
2012-07-01 12:37:52 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: NeoCortex42: As for another show that went too long: How the hell is Whitney having a season an episode 2?

That's where I got off that boat. I caught an episode on an airplane once, and about nine minutes in I decided I'd rather stare at the back of the seat in front of me. I had the same bizarre, perplexed feeling watching that garbage that I did when I accidentally caught an episode of The Bill Engvall Show; I kept expecting the main character to turn to the camera, break the fourth wall, and go into a lengthy discussion about precisely why this was not funny and why network television should stop making shows like this.


Sadly, because it wasn't a pilot written by Aaron Sorkin, it didn't happen.
 
2012-07-01 12:39:17 PM

NeoCortex42: As for another show that went too long: How the hell is Whitney having a season 2?


I think she and Chelsea Handler have videotape of someone high up doing some unspeakable acts.
 
2012-07-01 12:39:24 PM

Zombie DJ: Also, I'd put on BURN NOTICE. I love the show, but how farking long can he keep "looking for the guys who burned me"?


Well, it at least seems that they are now against the actual guy who burned him. So that's something. The show's nothing great lately, but it's still decent mindless fun in the same vein as The A-Team was in its time.
 
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