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2012-06-30 05:27:16 PM  
Who says Republicans are sore losers and liars?
 
2012-06-30 05:40:44 PM  
Imagine all the other things he claims he does not do.
 
2012-06-30 05:50:05 PM  
Should be a fun Silly Season...
 
2012-06-30 05:52:45 PM  
Well the Court ruled that it was not the law of the land. Did you not read the decision subby?
 
2012-06-30 06:27:57 PM  

feckingmorons: Well the Court ruled that it was not the law of the land. Did you not read the decision subby?


citysarah.files.wordpress.com

You just can't stop, can you?
 
2012-06-30 06:34:03 PM  

kingoomieiii: feckingmorons: Well the Court ruled that it was not the law of the land. Did you not read the decision subby?

[citysarah.files.wordpress.com image 410x512]

You just can't stop, can you?


What do you expect? He's a fecking moron
 
2012-07-01 12:00:29 AM  
www.christilling.de
FECK!
 
2012-07-01 12:08:02 AM  
A Republican governor is going to fark over a bunch of poor people in order to throw a temper tantrum over the healthcare ruling?

I'm shocked.
 
2012-07-01 12:08:06 AM  

feckingmorons: Well the Court ruled that it was not the law of the land. Did you not read the decision subby?


i.qkme.me
 
2012-07-01 12:08:21 AM  
Hmmm...maybe we should sell him a health care company so he'll have a reason to sign onto the bill.
 
2012-07-01 12:08:52 AM  
I'm kind of curious, what exactly is the normal response to states doing this? It's pretty unheard of for states to defy the Federal government like this, isn't it? I mean, all I can think of is Louisiana refusing to raise the drinking age and losing all highway funding for years and the Civil War. I mean, honestly, states can't refuse to comply with Federal law. Plus, I can only imagine how loud the shrill outrage would be if a state with a Democratic governor refused to comply with a Republican bill. Never mind that this is states actively hurting Americans.

Hell, how is this not treason? This is the GOP actively hurting Americans for political gain. That's treason.
 
2012-07-01 12:09:31 AM  

feckingmorons: Well the Court ruled that it was not the law of the land. Did you not read the decision subby?


Let me guess, you watched about 2 minutes of Fox and then turned off the TV.
 
2012-07-01 12:10:13 AM  
Because we're rough and tough boot strappy mavericks that say and do whatever Grover Norquist our party leader tells us to do
 
2012-07-01 12:11:04 AM  

kingoomieiii: feckingmorons: Well the Court ruled that it was not the law of the land. Did you not read the decision subby?

[citysarah.files.wordpress.com image 410x512]

You just can't stop, can you?


Did you not see the part of the decision where the states don't have to expand Medicaid.
 
2012-07-01 12:12:45 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Because we're rough and tough boot strappy mavericks that say and do whatever Grover Norquist our party leader tells us to do


Be interesting to see the reaction when the checks stop rolling in.

Sort of like Ayn Rand complaining that her check was late...
 
2012-07-01 12:15:30 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: kingoomieiii: feckingmorons: Well the Court ruled that it was not the law of the land. Did you not read the decision subby?

[citysarah.files.wordpress.com image 410x512]

You just can't stop, can you?

What do you expect? He's a fecking moron


I assumed he was making a joke about this:

cdn.newsday.com

Is he referencing something else?
 
2012-07-01 12:15:59 AM  

eraser8: Who says Republicans are sore losers and liars?


*raises hand*
 
2012-07-01 12:16:06 AM  

feckingmorons: kingoomieiii: feckingmorons: Well the Court ruled that it was not the law of the land. Did you not read the decision subby?

[citysarah.files.wordpress.com image 410x512]

You just can't stop, can you?

Did you not see the part of the decision where the states don't have to expand Medicaid.


It's going to be awesome when more people in the states that decline start dying and going bankrupt because of their Teapublican masters.

It's a long-term plan to kill the Republican Party and I'm very grateful for it.
 
2012-07-01 12:16:39 AM  
This is that this state is full of people who are already benefiting from some provisions in the health care law and there are lots more who eventually will benefit from it, and they all think that the governor -- who doesn't want this law at all -- is a great man.

/beautiful state...
//crazy people
 
2012-07-01 12:16:57 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Lionel Mandrake: kingoomieiii: feckingmorons: Well the Court ruled that it was not the law of the land. Did you not read the decision subby?

[citysarah.files.wordpress.com image 410x512]

You just can't stop, can you?

What do you expect? He's a fecking moron

I assumed he was making a joke about this:

[cdn.newsday.com image 416x200]

Is he referencing something else?


Actually I think the problem is he's simply a fecking moron. He's also notoriously biased against helping Americans get better medical care.
 
2012-07-01 12:17:56 AM  
Negro hate: so many avenues!
 
2012-07-01 12:27:24 AM  

GAT_00: I'm kind of curious, what exactly is the normal response to states doing this? It's pretty unheard of for states to defy the Federal government like this, isn't it? I mean, all I can think of is Louisiana refusing to raise the drinking age and losing all highway funding for years and the Civil War. I mean, honestly, states can't refuse to comply with Federal law. Plus, I can only imagine how loud the shrill outrage would be if a state with a Democratic governor refused to comply with a Republican bill. Never mind that this is states actively hurting Americans.

Hell, how is this not treason? This is the GOP actively hurting Americans for political gain. That's treason.


It's not treason for the very simple reason that the crime called treason is very specifically and narrowly defined by the Constitution exactly because short-sighted fools will accuse others of it because of the high penalty associated with it: "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort."
 
2012-07-01 12:27:51 AM  
Because the state with the oldest population in the nation is all about rejecting government health care.
 
2012-07-01 12:27:54 AM  
img210.imageshack.us
We'll just pretend it didn't happen.
 
2012-07-01 12:28:12 AM  
Read 5(b) on page 5 of the decision. It even uses the word dragooning.

Here (it is a pdf)
 
2012-07-01 12:31:53 AM  
Did anyone else notice that this article is from June 20th, eight days before the constitutionality ruling? And that nowhere in the article does it say Rick Scott is not going to uphold the law? In fact it says the opposite - that he WILL uphold the law if it is ruled constitutionally sound?

He returned federal money and refused to implement any changes to Florida's health care before the ruling. Nothing in the article says anything about his actions after the ruling.

Great job, subby - excellent troll! And if not trolling, then you're an idiot.
 
2012-07-01 12:32:11 AM  
this will be the end of the GOP. their insurance premiums will now skyrocket because of the rule changes the insurance companies have to comply with and with no mandate money or exchanges they'll be left with the full bill.
 
2012-07-01 12:33:04 AM  

feckingmorons: kingoomieiii: feckingmorons: Well the Court ruled that it was not the law of the land. Did you not read the decision subby?

[citysarah.files.wordpress.com image 410x512]

You just can't stop, can you?

Did you not see the part of the decision where the states don't have to expand Medicaid.


For once, you are correct.

But don't think that the refusal to expand Medicaid (free for first 3 years and then 90% reimbursed by the fed) will go unnoticed. It's an unbelievable cynical teabagger ploy that more and more people are waking up to.

These are the people you folks admire. And that's kinda farked up, man. You'll spite people who need medical care just to make a point.

/wonders how Scott will take credit for job growth he had no part in creating
 
2012-07-01 12:33:20 AM  

My Evil Twin Skippy: Did anyone else notice that this article is from June 20th, eight days before the constitutionality ruling? And that nowhere in the article does it say Rick Scott is not going to uphold the law? In fact it says the opposite - that he WILL uphold the law if it is ruled constitutionally sound?

He returned federal money and refused to implement any changes to Florida's health care before the ruling. Nothing in the article says anything about his actions after the ruling.

Great job, subby - excellent troll! And if not trolling, then you're an idiot.


Why would we click a NewsMax link? Seriously, we are putting food on the plates of sociopaths by giving them traffic.
 
2012-07-01 12:33:51 AM  

My Evil Twin Skippy: Did anyone else notice that this article is from June 20th, eight days before the constitutionality ruling? And that nowhere in the article does it say Rick Scott is not going to uphold the law? In fact it says the opposite - that he WILL uphold the law if it is ruled constitutionally sound?

He returned federal money and refused to implement any changes to Florida's health care before the ruling. Nothing in the article says anything about his actions after the ruling.

Great job, subby - excellent troll! And if not trolling, then you're an idiot.


Here, dumbass.
 
2012-07-01 12:34:40 AM  
That's it Rick! Let those sick people go poor!
 
2012-07-01 12:35:03 AM  
Wouldn't refusing to follow the law be reason enough for some jail time? Federal law says he must do this and if he does not comply he is breaking the law so...
 
2012-07-01 12:35:39 AM  

My Evil Twin Skippy: Did anyone else notice that this article is from June 20th, eight days before the constitutionality ruling? And that nowhere in the article does it say Rick Scott is not going to uphold the law? In fact it says the opposite - that he WILL uphold the law if it is ruled constitutionally sound?

He returned federal money and refused to implement any changes to Florida's health care before the ruling. Nothing in the article says anything about his actions after the ruling.

Great job, subby - excellent troll! And if not trolling, then you're an idiot.


Subby explained what's going on right in the headline. The link is from before the decision came down. Here is a link from after.

/not subby
//also not an idiot
 
2012-07-01 12:35:54 AM  

My Evil Twin Skippy: Did anyone else notice that this article is from June 20th, eight days before the constitutionality ruling? And that nowhere in the article does it say Rick Scott is not going to uphold the law? In fact it says the opposite - that he WILL uphold the law if it is ruled constitutionally sound?

He returned federal money and refused to implement any changes to Florida's health care before the ruling. Nothing in the article says anything about his actions after the ruling.

Great job, subby - excellent troll! And if not trolling, then you're an idiot.


Yeah, I think subby was hoping to submit two links at a time.

Here's a link that says he won't implement it:

Link

Rick Scott: Florida won't comply with health care law

TALLAHASSEE --

Florida Gov. Rick Scott now says Florida will do nothing to comply with President Barack Obama's health care overhaul and will not expand its Medicaid program. The announcement is a marked changed after the governor recently said he would follow the law if it were upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court.

"We're not going to implement Obamacare in Florida, we're not going to expand Medicaid because we're going to do the right thing," Scott said Friday night during an interview on Fox News. He also said the Medicaid expansion would cost Florida taxpayers $1.9 billion a year, but it's unclear how he arrived at that figure. Emails sent to Scott's staff were not immediately returned Saturday.

Scott said the state will not expand the Medicaid program in order to lower the number of uninsured residents, nor will Florida set up a state-run health exchange, a marketplace where people who need insurance policies could shop for them.

"We care about having a health care safety net for the vulnerable Floridians, but this is an expansion that just doesn't make any sense," he told Fox host Greta Van Susteren.

Scott has gone back and forth on the issue after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Congress cannot withhold federal Medicaid funding from states that opt out of a requirement in the overhaul to expand coverage to those just above the poverty line.
 
2012-07-01 12:35:57 AM  
How else are Republicans supposed to get elected if the people aren't suffering?
 
2012-07-01 12:37:18 AM  

GAT_00: Hell, how is this not treason? This is the GOP actively hurting Americans for political gain. That's treason.


Keep in mind just this week the GOP voted in the House to hold Eric Holder in contempt of Congress, because the Arizona state prosecutor's office herped and derped and wrecked not just an ongoing ATF investigation which led to the death of a border patrol agent, but also an accompanying FBI investigation into the same Mexican drug cartels they complain Obama isn't doing anything about.

While the guy who was in charge of actually executing the ATF interdiction in the first place went on vacation and later "whistleblew" that he wasn't doing his own damn job as ordered to by his superiors, and has been lauded as a conservative hero.

You know, while it turns out some of these guns that are being found are from back when the whole idea was called Operation Wide Receiver, actually approved by the Bush administration's DOJ and executed by ATF field offices in Arizona.

All to try to get egg on the face of the Blah-Man in the Whites-only House. The more details that are coming out about this whole Fast & Furious, the more it's turning out to look worse for the GOP than the Valerie Plame scandal.

Buuuuuut I digress. Obamacare. It's a good thing that got handed down this week, isn't it? And, I'm not surprised the floorhumpers are beating their states' rights puds and vowing to repeal and to refuse it on the state level, to I'm sure will be no small amount of applause from the very people hurt worst by it. And, again, I'm sure that when those people hurt worst by it actually figure out they're being hurt by it, many fingers will be pointed towards Obama and the democrats opposed to the people on whom responsibility truly lies.

Same old shiat we've seen for decades. Break it, blame the other guy, and when the other guy is in charge cry the other guy isn't fixing what you broke fast enough. And when you get in power again, break more stuff.
 
2012-07-01 12:39:17 AM  
Isn't the IRS enforcing the individual mandate? So exactly how is Florida not going to comply?
 
2012-07-01 12:41:03 AM  

tzzhc4: Isn't the IRS enforcing the individual mandate? So exactly how is Florida not going to comply?


Florida can choose not to adopt the new Medicaid standards.
 
2012-07-01 12:41:05 AM  

tzzhc4: Isn't the IRS enforcing the individual mandate? So exactly how is Florida not going to comply?


they have until jan 2014 and they're betting on taking the WH and a Senate majority
 
2012-07-01 12:41:18 AM  

dickfreckle: These are the people you folks admire. And that's kinda farked up, man. You'll spite people who need medical care just to make a point.


I volunteer at the free clinic, I hope more people get insurance, but I don't think the law is good policy. I don't spite anyone to make a point.

I was simply commenting on the idea that what Florida can do in relation to the PPACA decision is not as the title suggests contrary to 'the law of the land'.

It is simply a matter of having had the time to read the decision. Another attorney took questions on the decision on the day it was delivered, yet few TFers asked serious questions.

If people want to be willfully ignorant and think a factual response to a nonsense headline is politically motivated there is nothing I can do about that. The state's can't lose Medicaid funding because they don't want to expand Medicaid. That is not a matter of opinion, it is the decision of the Supreme Court. It can be read at the link I provided above.
 
2012-07-01 12:41:54 AM  
Didn't we solve the states rights issue in the 1860s? Or is Florida asking for the North to deliver another asswhipping?
 
2012-07-01 12:42:34 AM  

Hobodeluxe: tzzhc4: Isn't the IRS enforcing the individual mandate? So exactly how is Florida not going to comply?

they have until jan 2014 and they're betting on taking the WH and a Senate majority


Can we then have a serious national discussion about cutting that flaccid cock loose into the ocean? Give 50,000 shovels to AmeriCorps volunteers and get it done.
 
2012-07-01 12:43:14 AM  

My Evil Twin Skippy: Did anyone else notice that this article is from June 20th, eight days before the constitutionality ruling? And that nowhere in the article does it say Rick Scott is not going to uphold the law? In fact it says the opposite - that he WILL uphold the law if it is ruled constitutionally sound?

He returned federal money and refused to implement any changes to Florida's health care before the ruling. Nothing in the article says anything about his actions after the ruling.

Great job, subby - excellent troll! And if not trolling, then you're an idiot.


Maybe subby meant to link this article, which says the Gov won't (or will? It's a little confusing from the writing) comply. And the Gov was a healthcare exec, so maybe he's a little in the back pocket of the insurance companies.
 
2012-07-01 12:43:33 AM  
Don't they have until 2014 to create the exchange? Plenty of time for the rich guy whose name is practically an anagram of money to win the election and push through a cancellation of the hideous Obamacare law. No need for them to start implementing it now since it's obviously going to be repealed. Pllus, even if B.S. wins re-election, you gain street cred with the party faithful. I don't blame him one bit.
 
2012-07-01 12:44:25 AM  

Shaggy_C: Don't they have until 2014 to create the exchange? Plenty of time for the rich guy whose name is practically an anagram of money to win the election and push through a cancellation of the hideous Obamacare law. No need for them to start implementing it now since it's obviously going to be repealed. Pllus, even if B.S. wins re-election, you gain street cred with the party faithful. I don't blame him one bit.


i.qkme.me
 
2012-07-01 12:48:45 AM  

Hobodeluxe: this will be the end of the GOP. their insurance premiums will now skyrocket because of the rule changes the insurance companies have to comply with and with no mandate money or exchanges they'll be left with the full bill.


Where is the gov going to get the money it is giving the states for the medicaid expantion (the exchanges)?
 
2012-07-01 12:48:47 AM  
There's one benefit to the Republican governors rejecting the Supreme Court ruling and refusing to set up exchanges. If they fail to do so, the federal government is empowered to do so on their behalf. It would be nice if they would use this as a stepping stone to a national private insurance exchange with a public option to be added in the future.
 
2012-07-01 12:51:07 AM  
Anyone else starting to wish the North had lost the Civil War and the CSA was still its own country?
 
2012-07-01 12:51:29 AM  
I just want to go on the record that I DID NOT VOTE FOR HIM.

/my voice was drowned out by the derp
 
2012-07-01 12:56:04 AM  

PsyLord: I just want to go on the record that I DID NOT VOTE FOR HIM.

/my voice was drowned out by the derp


I did but it was him or Alex Sink who is a complete idiot. She was worse, she was a bank president, BOA to be exact. It was the lesser of two evils.
 
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