What would he have done had the guy asked him for a light?



Oh. Nevermind.

I'd think if you can afford a gun and bullets you should be able to buy your own smokes.

One fewer smoker. I'm okay with that.

Endive Wombat: AbbeySomeone: I'd think if you can afford a gun and bullets you should be able to buy your own smokes.

I am sure I will be called some names here by saying this but...I am going to wager that he did not "buy" his weapon and ammo in the traditional sense that you and I would procure such items. Like I said, just a guess...

Why doesn't he just get his cigarettes the same way?

Gwendolyn: basemetal: scottydoesntknow: Authorities said that when Ferguson refused, Thervil pulled a 32-caliber handgun. Others in the group urged Thervil to leave the park, but returned later.

Deputies said a fight broke out. Ferguson shot Thervil, then fled with the other men.

This story is confusing. So the victim pulls a gun, leaves, returns, and is shot by the other guy? When did the other guy get a gun?

And if the other guy previously pulled a gun, wouldn't this just be a stand your ground kind of thing?

No, because he's black. Duh.

I'm kind of surprised he survived an encounter with SWAT.

This is obviously some strange usage of the word "friend" that I hadn't previously been aware of.

black guys just get respawned, unlike us native american folk. that's why it happens so often.

So the tobacco companies lied, smoking will kill you.

"Deputies said a fight broke out. Ferguson shot Thervil, then fled with the other men."

Did they take his smokes?

Ok subby, and I will also not pull a gun on him, leave (giving him a chance to arm himself), then return to rehash the argument.

Ennuipoet: Kill your friend for bumming a smoke? That's just wrong. Kill a complete stranger for bumming a smoke? This is often completely justified.

Especially if the stranger says "I don't normally smoke, except when I'm out drinking" and you're in a bar.

I did have a friend who said he was going to quit buying cigarettes. Not quit smoking, just quit buying them.

Eliminate the asking for cigarette part and leave the guns and what do you have

just an average day in Newtown

Brock Samson would kill for a cigarette. It'll help him relax.

Bad, Bad, Glenn Thervil who is brown, baddest man in the whole damn town....something...something...something...he's got a 32 gun in his pocket for fun, he's got no smokes in his shoe....


I'm actually most curious about the part where the crowd convinces the guy with the gun to leave, and it seems nobody thought they might want to call the cops so long as he did leave. The libertarian in me can really appreciate that, but I tend to doubt this crowd had those same leanings and thought "we don't pay anything in taxes, so let's not burden the system by calling the police needlessly".

Captain Spears?

/DRTFA

MoronLessOff: Brock Samson would kill for a cigarette. It'll help him relax.

YouTube, but might not be safe for some workplaces, where the bosses have things in their asses.

DNRTFA

Wanna know why? Well I'm going to tell you anyway.

Any article written by a media organization that employs people who uses the term "bum a cigarette" in the photo caption cannot be, by definition, worth reading.

If they are that uneducated, how could you even begin to trust the actual content.

Now he can get all the smokes he wants in prison, so long as he tosses the salad first.

I imagine there is more to the story but when you threaten people with a gun then come back again to fight, you deserve any shooting that may occur.

It's a newport, not a support
It's a marlboro, not a mayiborrow

Done in one.

So, nothing happened to the smoking gun?

reddsharkk: I imagine there is more to the story but when you threaten people with a gun then come back again to fight, you deserve any shooting that may occur.

It's a newport, not a support
It's a marlboro, not a mayiborrow

It's a camel, not CARMEL!

reddsharkk: I imagine there is more to the story but when you threaten people with a gun then come back again to fight, you deserve any shooting that may occur.

It's a newport, not a support
It's a marlboro, not a mayiborrow

It's a camel, not CARMEL

reddsharkk: I imagine there is more to the story but when you threaten people with a gun then come back again to fight, you deserve any shooting that may occur.

It's a newport, not a support
It's a marlboro, not a mayiborrow

It's a camel, not a CARMEL
It's a kool, not a quorn patty

reddsharkk: I imagine there is more to the story but when you threaten people with a gun then come back again to fight, you deserve any shooting that may occur.

It's a newport, not a support
It's a marlboro, not a mayiborrow

It's a camel, not a CARMEL
It's a kool, not a Quorn patty

KrispyKritter: This is one of those 'shove your city up your arse' pet peeves. Every clown for 6 blocks wants one of yours if you're smoking. or change. a cigarette or change. spare change?

hey, mac. got a lite?

Like anyone keeps a 6 in their pocket. How would you keep it cold?

Stand your ground law! Other dude did come at him with a gun sooooo he should get off.

Does this guy have Hitler eyebrows or is it me?

K, so, here's what I got:

1. Thervil asks Ferguson for cigarette.
2. Ferguson refuses. Thervil pulls out gun.
3. Everyone else there tells Thervil he should leave.
4. Thervil comes back, I assume with the gun from before. Gets in fight with Ferguson. Ferguson shoots Thervil.
5. Ferguson is later arrested and charged with first degree murder.

I'm not a CSI or anything, but it seems pretty cut-and-dry that this is anything BUT first degree murder. If Thervil came back there and Ferguson was killed, I could see charging Thervil with first degree. But it's totally possible that Ferguson shot Thervil with Thervil's gun by accident when they started to fight. And even if he shot him on purpose, Thervil is armed, which makes Ferguson shooting Thervil self defense. I just don't see how Ferguson could have planned that Thervil would come back, and isn't that the whole point of first degree murder, that it's planned ahead of time?

Oh wait, he's black, and I must have missed that Florida tag.

Now it all makes sense.

Mishno: One fewer smoker. I'm okay with that.

Wow, don't ya think that's kinda mean?

Cigarette..
No thank you,
I wasn't talking to you....
Cigarette, prepare to be smoked...

Obscure?

Khallayne: K, so, here's what I got:

1. Thervil asks Ferguson for cigarette.
2. Ferguson refuses. Thervil pulls out gun.
3. Everyone else there tells Thervil he should leave.
4. Thervil comes back, I assume with the gun from before. Gets in fight with Ferguson. Ferguson shoots Thervil.
5. Ferguson is later arrested and charged with first degree murder.

I'm not a CSI or anything, but it seems pretty cut-and-dry that this is anything BUT first degree murder. If Thervil came back there and Ferguson was killed, I could see charging Thervil with first degree. But it's totally possible that Ferguson shot Thervil with Thervil's gun by accident when they started to fight. And even if he shot him on purpose, Thervil is armed, which makes Ferguson shooting Thervil self defense. I just don't see how Ferguson could have planned that Thervil would come back, and isn't that the whole point of first degree murder, that it's planned ahead of time?

Oh wait, he's black, and I must have missed that Florida tag.

Now it all makes sense.


Or the article got the names reversed for half the story. It makes a lot more sense that way.

I guess they weren't menthol

Isildur: Or the article got the names reversed for half the story. It makes a lot more sense that way.

That was my first thought, too, it's probably an Occam's Razor thing.

Deputies, dig dis: Man denies homey some cigarette, den wastes him.

/remember The Dialectizer?