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		Man kills baby. Wait, it gets worse... In front of baby's mother -- his daughter. Wait, it gets worse... In front of baby's brother, his grandchild. Wait, it gets worse (news-press.com)		202
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AirForceVet		2012-06-29 11:50:43 AM

I'm OK with the death penalty in this case.

exick		2012-06-29 11:58:27 AM

Manuel De Jesus Rosales, 45, whom they contend slit his 3-month-old grandson's throat in front of his 20-year-old daughter, Karminda Rosales Salazar, the baby's mother, as she lie in the driveway of their home, suffering stab wounds to her neck. As he cut his grandson, Rosales told Salazar, "Here's your bastard," investigators allege. Salazar's older child, a toddler fathered by Rosales, was not injured during the attack.

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Chariset		2012-06-29 11:59:41 AM

HOW COULD IT POSSIBLY GET WORSE?!

TsarTom		2012-06-29 12:05:09 PM

Chariset: HOW COULD IT POSSIBLY GET WORSE?!

Salazar's older child, a toddler fathered by Rosales

Chariset		2012-06-29 12:08:22 PM

TsarTom: Salazar's older child, a toddler fathered by Rosales

I thought that was covered by the "in front of baby's brother" portion of the headline.

exick		2012-06-29 12:09:24 PM

Chariset: TsarTom: Salazar's older child, a toddler fathered by Rosales

I thought that was covered by the "in front of baby's brother" portion of the headline.

Pay close attention to who the parents of the baby's brother are.

AbbeySomeone		2012-06-29 12:09:41 PM

exick: Manuel De Jesus Rosales, 45, whom they contend slit his 3-month-old grandson's throat in front of his 20-year-old daughter, Karminda Rosales Salazar, the baby's mother, as she lie in the driveway of their home, suffering stab wounds to her neck. As he cut his grandson, Rosales told Salazar, "Here's your bastard," investigators allege. Salazar's older child, a toddler fathered by Rosales, was not injured during the attack.

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It sounds as if he was jealous. He didn't hurt the child that he fathered but killed the 'bastard'. Yeah, just put him down.

Because People in power are Stupid		2012-06-29 12:11:19 PM

AirForceVet: I'm OK with the death penalty in this case.

It's too quick, where's the slow agonizing torture?

Sapper_Topo		2012-06-29 12:19:20 PM

I think I saw a Miami Vice episode similar to this once. Weird

jbc		2012-06-29 12:20:23 PM

Chariset: HOW COULD IT POSSIBLY GET WORSE?!

He's a two-time grandfather at 45.

miss diminutive		2012-06-29 12:22:02 PM

Ship him back to Honduras with a sign that says "I had sex with my own daughter".

Problem solved.

Richard Saunders		2012-06-29 12:27:44 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: AirForceVet: I'm OK with the death penalty in this case.

It's too quick, where's the slow agonizing torture?

Death penalty? Sure, but do it a la Henry Smith.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Smith_%28lynching_victim%29

/an appropriate end

The My Little Pony Killer		2012-06-29 12:31:00 PM

jbc: Chariset: HOW COULD IT POSSIBLY GET WORSE?!

He's a two-time grandfather at 45.

And his surviving grandchild is also his son.

The My Little Pony Killer		2012-06-29 12:31:46 PM

miss diminutive: Ship him back to Honduras with a sign that says "I had sex with my own daughter after narcing on her dealer."

Problem solved.

Gotta get those drug runners interested somehow.

haemaker		2012-06-29 12:41:56 PM

So, let me see if I have this straight...

Man kills grandson and tries to kill daughter because his daughter cheated on him and had a child with another man.

Defense wants to kick the death penalty because he's afraid to travel to Honduras to collect background information.

I think he should go, I want to hear the rest of this story. Perhaps he is his own grandpa on top of being the father-grandfather.

jbc		2012-06-29 12:55:26 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: jbc: Chariset: HOW COULD IT POSSIBLY GET WORSE?!

He's a two-time grandfather at 45.

And his surviving grandchild is also his son.

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

BunkoSquad		2012-06-29 01:39:51 PM

The lawyer for a Lehigh Acres man accused of slitting the throat of his infant grandson and attempting to kill his daughter in 2010 said in court Monday that he plans to file a motion to bar the use of the death penalty because it's too dangerous to travel to the man's native Honduras to gather information about his client's past.

"I mean, your honor, look at some of the sick farks that come from Honduras, such as my client...I ain't going there"

MaudlinMutantMollusk		2012-06-29 01:44:59 PM

Him and his douchebag lawyer should both get the death penalty

slayer199		2012-06-29 01:51:42 PM

What a wonderful family. The mother/daughter, isn't exactly a prize but the father is reprehensible all by himself.

http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Karminda_Rosales-salazar_3125338/

Endive Wombat		2012-06-29 02:45:04 PM

What would traveling to Honduras do to benefit the defense? What, if any new discoveries would be made down there that would exonerate this man from his heinous crimes?

w00ty		2012-06-29 02:50:46 PM

AirForceVet: I'm OK with the death penalty in this case.

this

schattenteufel		2012-06-29 02:51:35 PM

The Aristocrats.

Zoop		2012-06-29 02:51:38 PM

Some sort of family tree graphic might be helpful in interpreting this story...

Magorn		2012-06-29 02:51:50 PM

Approves:

Forced Perspective		2012-06-29 02:51:51 PM

Endive Wombat: What would traveling to Honduras do to benefit the defense? What, if any new discoveries would be made down there that would exonerate this man from his heinous crimes?

I think the idea is that the death penalty is off the table if it can be demonstrated he had a shiatty childhood or whatever. Because it's infeasible to go to Honduras, the public defender is arguing, then it would be unfair to have it in this case. He could still get life in prison. Seems unlikely to work.

Jon iz teh kewl		2012-06-29 02:51:51 PM

salad czar

devilEther		2012-06-29 02:52:08 PM

I need someone to draw me a family tree, I can't figure it out.

RoyBatty		2012-06-29 02:52:53 PM

The trains hit 20 minutes after leaving their stations?

Lando Lincoln		2012-06-29 02:53:42 PM

I am going to withhold judgment until I see the hotness of the daughter.

I was already going to Hell, so these comments are pretty harmless to my everlasting soul.

imtheonlylp		2012-06-29 02:53:59 PM

whew. thank you Florida, for once again proving that Alabama, Mippissippi, Kentucky, and the Carolinas aren't as bass ackwards as you.

/dodged the inbred bullet there

Gaseous Anomaly		2012-06-29 02:54:13 PM

haemaker: Defense wants to kick the death penalty because he's afraid to travel to Honduras to collect background information.

Seems kinda Chewbacca-y, but maybe that's all the defense has got at this point.

FrancoFile		2012-06-29 02:54:15 PM

devilEther: I need someone to draw me a family tree, I can't figure it out.

Go find your 3D goggles while I fire up a circuit diagram template in Visio.

author1701		2012-06-29 02:54:21 PM

devilEther: I need someone to draw me a family tree, I can't figure it out.

It's not so much a tree as kudzu.

King Something		2012-06-29 02:54:50 PM

devilEther: I need someone to draw me a family tree, I can't figure it out.

It looks kinda like this:
farm1.static.flickr.com

devildog123		2012-06-29 02:55:51 PM

It doesn't even sound like the defense is arguing that he DIDN'T do it, just that they don't feel like they can find the sort of evidence that he had such a farked up childhood that he doesn't deserve to get executed for what he did. I don't care how farked up it was, nothing excuses what he did. He even lives in Florida. Take him out to the Everglades, kneel him down at the edge of a swamp, shoot him behind the ear with a .22, and give the gators a meal. Problem solved.

tetsoushima		2012-06-29 02:56:29 PM

Wow, this is almost as bad as "Daddy ate my eyes."

BumpInTheNight		2012-06-29 02:56:46 PM

devilEther: I need someone to draw me a family tree, I can't figure it out.

I think you'd need someone like MC Escher to do it justice.

www.oliveoilsource.com

Grapple		2012-06-29 02:57:22 PM

Zoop: Some sort of family tree graphic might be helpful in interpreting this story...

I believe it involves a loop-de-loop.

mjstallworth		2012-06-29 02:57:36 PM

I'd guess that being in a sexual relationship with one's own father would fark a person up in more ways than can be counted. So, I'd probably be less Judgey Mcjudgey-Pantsabout the mother/daughter. Girl's gotta have issues.

slayer199: What a wonderful family. The mother/daughter, isn't exactly a prize but the father is reprehensible all by himself.

http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Karminda_Rosales-salazar_3125338/

Jon iz teh kewl		2012-06-29 02:57:45 PM

devildog123: It doesn't even sound like the defense is arguing that he DIDN'T do it, just that they don't feel like they can find the sort of evidence that he had such a farked up childhood that he doesn't deserve to get executed for what he did. I don't care how farked up it was, nothing excuses what he did. He even lives in Florida. Take him out to the Everglades, kneel him down at the edge of a swamp, shoot him behind the ear with a .22, and give the gators a meal. Problem solved.

umm the after effects?? of said murder!

krug9999		2012-06-29 02:58:09 PM

Nasty business, but by the will of King Joffrey it had to be done.

apacheco		2012-06-29 02:58:38 PM

this man needs to be burned to the point where he almost dies. Than let him be and peel the skin off his bones. Keep this monster alive as long as you can so he faces the worst pain imaginable

JonnyG		2012-06-29 02:58:41 PM

Oh, I see.

*turns to walks away*

*double take*

Say whaaaaaaaaat?

JesseL		2012-06-29 02:58:44 PM

Who in the world would think anything that happened in this guy's childhood could excuse what he did?

It may make the story even more sad, but it remains that the only thing to do with a mad dog is to put it down.

Endive Wombat		2012-06-29 02:59:04 PM

Forced Perspective: Endive Wombat: What would traveling to Honduras do to benefit the defense? What, if any new discoveries would be made down there that would exonerate this man from his heinous crimes?

I think the idea is that the death penalty is off the table if it can be demonstrated he had a shiatty childhood or whatever. Because it's infeasible to go to Honduras, the public defender is arguing, then it would be unfair to have it in this case. He could still get life in prison. Seems unlikely to work.

How often does a public defender/defense atty leave the country to gather evidence of their client's upbringing? More to the point, in equally horrific crimes, how many times has the "boo, my childhood was bad ergo I have to get rapey and stabby to make myself feel better" defense work vs say...the good run of the mill standby: temporary insanity?

Belias		2012-06-29 02:59:18 PM

miss diminutive: Ship him back to Honduras with a ~~sign~~ tattoo on his face that says "I had sex with my own daughter".

Problem solved.

FTFY

dotvincent		2012-06-29 02:59:25 PM

slayer199: What a wonderful family. The mother/daughter, isn't exactly a prize but the father is reprehensible all by himself.

http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Karminda_Rosales-salazar_3125338/

If the older child is already a toddler and the daughter is only 20, we're talking teen pregnancy here. With her father's baby. I can't judge her for that, but he is a loathsome bastard.